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"A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?

 
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The Rod of Iron is a Rifle. A gun.

Steel Barrels are mostly Iron. And they have the shape of a Rod.

When you look down the barrel of a gun aiming at somebody about to end their existence you look down the Iron Sights.

A prophet would not know what steel or guns were, he would describe them as Iron Rods that are wielded and give the bearer power over others.


He will rule by these Iron Rods. By the peoples fear of what they can do.

But it is us who will dash his world government to pieces.

With our Iron Rods as if it was a clay pot.

It has been written.

The Overcomers see it so.
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um you should all check out the zeus mythology.he was the male child that was hidden from cronus before he ate him.the woman rhea gave birth to zues and tricked cronus by dressing a stone up in clothes so he would eat that instead.
that stone is the stone of Jacob,the stone of Jacob is the throne of david,and that is under the queens throne in England.maybe England were tricked into eating the stone thinking it was where Jesus was to rule by. but Jesus is the stone now spiritually speaking.pride rock.you should all watch lion king cause it reveals a lot about the end times.


After dispatching Uranus, Cronus re-imprisoned the Hecatonchires, the Gigantes, and the Cyclopes and set the dragon Campe to guard them. He and his sister Rhea took the throne of the world as king and queen. The period in which Cronus ruled was called the Golden Age, as the people of the time had no need for laws or rules; everyone did the right thing, and immorality was absent.

Cronus learned from Gaia and Uranus that he was destined to be overcome by his own sons, just as he had overthrown his father. As a result, although he sired the gods Demeter, Hestia, Hera, Hades and Poseidon by Rhea, he devoured them all as soon as they were born, to preempt the prophecy. When the sixth child, Zeus, was born Rhea sought Gaia to devise a plan to save them and to eventually get retribution on Cronus for his acts against his father and children. Another child Cronus is reputed to have fathered includes Chiron, by Philyra.
Painting by Peter Paul Rubens of Cronus devouring one of his children, Poseidon

Rhea secretly gave birth to Zeus in Crete, and handed Cronus a stone wrapped in swaddling clothes, also known as the Omphalos Stone, which he promptly swallowed, thinking that it was his son.

Rhea kept Zeus hidden in a cave on Mount Ida, Crete. According to some versions of the story, he was then raised by a goat named Amalthea, while a company of Kouretes, armored male dancers, shouted and clapped their hands to make enough noise to mask the baby's cries from Cronus. Other versions of the myth have Zeus raised by the nymph Adamanthea, who hid Zeus by dangling him by a rope from a tree so that he was suspended between the earth, the sea, and the sky, all of which were ruled by his father, Cronus. Still other versions of the tale say that Zeus was raised by his grandmother, Gaia.
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The church is represented in this vision.

(1.) As a woman, the weaker part of the world, but the spouse of Christ, and the mother of the saints.

(2.) As clothed with the sun, the imputed righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ. Having put on Christ, who is the Sun of righteousness, she, by her relation to Christ, is invested with honourable rights and privileges, and shines in his rays.

(3.) As having the moon under her feet (that is, the world); she stands upon it, but lives above it; her heart and hope are not set upon sublunary things, but on the things that are in heaven, where her head is.

(4.) As having on her head a crown of twelve stars, that is, the doctrine of the gospel preached by the twelve apostles, which is a crown of glory to all true believers.

(5.) As in travail, crying out, and pained to be delivered. She was pregnant, and now in pain to bring forth a holy progeny to Christ, desirous that what was begun in the conviction of sinners might end in their conversion, that when the children were brought to the birth there might be strength to bring forth, and that she might see of the travail of her soul.
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This is exactly what it means.
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It appears to be the Mother of God, Our Lady of Guadalupe, showing Herself as one of the last means of salvation before bible pushing protestants deceive the world with the lord deception.
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you need to see this:

[link to www.fatimamovement.com]
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Revelation 12 covers the 3 most important time Satan has affected Eve's life. Eve herself is the first woman and her breath of life is in heaven with the breath from everybody else that has ever died.
Eve was the 1st woman to be given pain in birth. Ge:3:13 is the time of that determination.
The next time the 'serpent' was most interactive with a daughter of Eve was with Mary, mother of Jesus and the time of protection was 3 1/2 years starting when John was called by God and ending on the day of the cross.
The last woman is the 144,000 from the 12 Tribes and some Gentiles that will number 1/3 of the earth 3 1/2 years from when the first person is given the same sort of protection that was given back in the days of the 2nd woman.
The 2 witnesses are protected for that length of time even with being in the center of Jerusalem rather that out in the 'wilderness' for the 3 1/2 years that expire between the time the 5th trump sounds and the 7th sounds.

When the 7th trump sounds all things determined in Ge:3:15 are completed and the start of a period where mankind knows about good and evil and the garden conditions return to the promised land as a model of how things will work when the new earth begins.

The moon is the lower portion of the 2nd heaven, Eve is probably 1 of the 24 Elders in heaven in the temple described in Re:4. That should be the same one that Satan and other sons of God met at in the book of Job.

The 12 Tribes are on the last leg of things concerning them before they are completely gathered going back to the sons of Abraham so it is quite possible that is who is represented. That era ended in 70AD and from then until the 7th trump the 7 Churches are the rule. In the temple in Re:4 they are the 7 lamps with the lamb having 7 times He appears and does an event in Revelation. Gentiles aren't fully gathered in numbers until the Great White Throne event

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The woman is God's wife - His church.

The boy is 144.000. Christ wasn't caught to heaven.

Where is 144.000?

According to many biblical prophecies at the time of end the must exists all 12 tribes of Israel.

Otherwise you can throw Bible away because is worthless.

The good news is - Caucasian people are 10 tribes of Israel. After they were taken into Assyria, they ended up in Caucus mountains. From there these tribes have conquer whole Europe, Russia, England and than USA. (Efraim)

That's why Edomites, Khazars and Danites want to destroy white rase on Earth, because they are God's nation.

Amongst Jews there a some Judeans and Levites as well. Most likely Romans are descendants of tribe of Dan.

From all these tribes will be taken 144.000 - a little boy which will be taken in rapture into heaven.

Of course a current Israel is a fake - Synagogue of Satan.

That's what is all about. All these monotheistic religions, judeo-christians are whites! They all do believe in God of the Bible.

Translate that article. There are many evidences of what I have said!

[link to www.zbawienie.com]
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until the reader of The Revelation understands that they are the personage represented they will not understand the parable .....

when they make this contact then they will understand that which is He that comes from the clouds ...as The Son of Man .....

you are He ....

then you will step out of the book of parables and stop looking for your self ...(be blotted out of it) and step into LIFE .....
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She is Israel.
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as long as one looks to find a SHE or a HE to be seen in the Bible or coming in the light of the world ...they seek to remain divided within the realm of duality ...

when it is known that you are the Adamah .....then it will follow that you are the Adam and the Eve ..the HE and the SHE ....then it will follow that the husband shall join his wife ....as ONE

these known as the Adamah (first as male and female) and (second as man and woman)are the first and the last .....and these are each of US ....

when the SOUL and the SPIRIT join as ONE ...they produce the new creation .....the NEW YOU ...with a NEW NAME ....

the time for this is NOW .....

accept and become .....
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and on her head a crown of twelve stars...

Mystery solved...

[link to www1.pictures.zimbio.com]

The Most Hated Woman currently in Europe... And She is a Blessed Woman with a son who she doesn't know yet...

[link to www.vanderkrogt.net]

The Dragon surrounding her are the socialist regimes...

For the German Readers... You people live in a blessed Nation by heaven and your Saint Protector, the Patron Saint...
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the woman is israel the husband is god.

the 12 stars of the EU flag above her head, the islamic moon below her feet. look at the map its all there
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Revelation 12
5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Who is she, and who is her son?

Come one come all...

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She is Mary. Her son was already born remember revelation of John is past and future. The woman Mary gave birth God took her son. Into thy hands I commend my spirit. God took his son Yeshuah Christ to his throne along side him. The woman remained there are those that will not taste death. Mary is still here she comes in spirit in a woman chosen by her to guide the saints during tribulation. The dragon is after her I e floods. Because she holds the truth that will topple his regime and lies.
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So much falso information out there. She is Israel because she is one of the lost tribes. She is alive and well and has walked with God since birth. She is not from the constellation Virgo--she was born from a Virgo--she is from the constellation Cancer--the moonchild-that is why the moon is under her feet.She has stood in Gods holy prescense,as have all the other great biblical women whom God spoke to. God will make the new covenant with her and the remnant and she will actually be the lambs wife. so simple really if u can weed through all the lies.`and she is as fair as the moon
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The unveiling is just about here--at long last the holy bloodline will be revealed...all creation groans.she is mentioned also in psalm 45,and song of soloman..and the servant of the Lord.She is Gods daughter also.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
2 interpatiions

1. The woman is Israel & Jesus is the son

2. The woman is the church & Jesus is the son

I had always went for #1, but Irenaeus a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of the Apostle John(who wrote revelation) says #2 is correct

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Both are wrong. We must go according to the written word.

The women about to give birth is awaited by the beast with ten horns and seven heads the one that is yet to come (666), therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE that this male son caught up to GOD and his throne be Jesus.

Revelation 12

3 -- Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems.

4 -- Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth.

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Your confusing symbols... the dragon is satan as is plainly stated in verse 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan

Yes, and with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems.

We know that this beast is yet to come and will hate the Harlot (USA) and at some point in the nearby future will consume her flesh and burn her with fire,(Rev.17:16) -- so it can't be JESUS


And only one person fits the man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

So who is the child?


Verse 11 makes it clear And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Okay, fine, but who is the child?


As I stated earlier I'll trust what men who knew John the Apostle and what they were taught by him not a private interpretation

Not me, I trust saint John and not men who told you they knew John, that's why I quote from the written word. Thanks.

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Hey I'm 100% sola scripture myself,but it behoves us to listen to the men John personally instructed..you say you only use the word,thats great then you should know the phrase used "the man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron" is also ref in the Psalm 2(I didn't post the entire Psalm for sake of space)


Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel



Its obvious the above refers to Christ Jesus as does Rev.12:5

But I see you by your other posts you deny that Jesus is Lord? If I'm wrong please correct me. Otherwise yes you are giving a private interpretation,which happens when one does not let Scripture interpert Scripture
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You are WRONG, it is NOT Jesus..I know who it is and I know who the woman is but I ain't tellin!

Revelation 2

18 “To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:

These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze.

19 I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first.

20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.

21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling.

22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways.

23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.

24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you,

25 except to hold on to what you have until I come.’

26 To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations—

27 that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’—just as I have received authority from my Father.

28 I will also give that one the morning star.

29 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
2 interpatiions

1. The woman is Israel & Jesus is the son

2. The woman is the church & Jesus is the son

I had always went for #1, but Irenaeus a disciple of Polycarp who was a disciple of the Apostle John(who wrote revelation) says #2 is correct

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Both are wrong. We must go according to the written word.

The women about to give birth is awaited by the beast with ten horns and seven heads the one that is yet to come (666), therefore, it is IMPOSSIBLE that this male son caught up to GOD and his throne be Jesus.

Revelation 12

3 -- Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems.

4 -- Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth.

bump bump

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Your confusing symbols... the dragon is satan as is plainly stated in verse 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan

Yes, and with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems.

We know that this beast is yet to come and will hate the Harlot (USA) and at some point in the nearby future will consume her flesh and burn her with fire,(Rev.17:16) -- so it can't be JESUS


And only one person fits the man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

So who is the child?


Verse 11 makes it clear And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Okay, fine, but who is the child?


As I stated earlier I'll trust what men who knew John the Apostle and what they were taught by him not a private interpretation

Not me, I trust saint John and not men who told you they knew John, that's why I quote from the written word. Thanks.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 863538

Hey I'm 100% sola scripture myself,but it behoves us to listen to the men John personally instructed..you say you only use the word,thats great then you should know the phrase used "the man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron" is also ref in the Psalm 2(I didn't post the entire Psalm for sake of space)


Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel



Its obvious the above refers to Christ Jesus as does Rev.12:5

But I see you by your other posts you deny that Jesus is Lord? If I'm wrong please correct me. Otherwise yes you are giving a private interpretation,which happens when one does not let Scripture interpert Scripture
 Quoting: mathetes



You are WRONG, it is NOT Jesus..I know who it is and I know who the woman is but I ain't tellin!

Revelation 2

18 “To the angel of the church in Thyatira write:

These are the words of the Son of God, whose eyes are like blazing fire and whose feet are like burnished bronze.

19 I know your deeds, your love and faith, your service and perseverance, and that you are now doing more than you did at first.

20 Nevertheless, I have this against you: You tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophet. By her teaching she misleads my servants into sexual immorality and the eating of food sacrificed to idols.

21 I have given her time to repent of her immorality, but she is unwilling.

22 So I will cast her on a bed of suffering, and I will make those who commit adultery with her suffer intensely, unless they repent of her ways.

23 I will strike her children dead. Then all the churches will know that I am he who searches hearts and minds, and I will repay each of you according to your deeds.

24 Now I say to the rest of you in Thyatira, to you who do not hold to her teaching and have not learned Satan’s so-called deep secrets, ‘I will not impose any other burden on you,

25 except to hold on to what you have until I come.’

26 To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations—

27 that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’—just as I have received authority from my Father.

28 I will also give that one the morning star.

29 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
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and tell me this do you have the holy spirit upon you to speak the truth? if you cannot answer that is an answer
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The woman is God's wife - His church.

The boy is 144.000. Christ wasn't caught to heaven.

Where is 144.000?

According to many biblical prophecies at the time of end the must exists all 12 tribes of Israel.

Otherwise you can throw Bible away because is worthless.

The good news is - Caucasian people are 10 tribes of Israel. After they were taken into Assyria, they ended up in Caucus mountains. From there these tribes have conquer whole Europe, Russia, England and than USA. (Efraim)

That's why Edomites, Khazars and Danites want to destroy white rase on Earth, because they are God's nation.

Amongst Jews there a some Judeans and Levites as well. Most likely Romans are descendants of tribe of Dan.

From all these tribes will be taken 144.000 - a little boy which will be taken in rapture into heaven.

Of course a current Israel is a fake - Synagogue of Satan.

That's what is all about. All these monotheistic religions, judeo-christians are whites! They all do believe in God of the Bible.

Translate that article. There are many evidences of what I have said!

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What church exactly is God's church? The Roman Catholic church? All Christian churches? Anyone who believes in Christ?
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God is complicated and, as He lives outside of time he has the "time" to create multi-layered tales.

The stories are not only for generations past, but they apply today and they will also apply to generations to come. Patterns within patterns. Fractals beget fractals. We can see this in the rivers and trees and all of nature around us. We are less inclined, however, to recognize this in matters spiritual. This, however, does not mean that the patterns do not continue, for they very much do.

The woman is both one and many. She is ancient and modern, both. She is spiritual, flesh-and-bone and a constellation, all. She is a messenger, a sign, a counselor and a being. She is eternal, now. Her place is secure in the past, present and future. Time is a mirage created by God for our learning benefit. She is exactly who and what she is supposed to be.

If you are looking for a celestial sign in the words, it does exist. However, you will be forced to decide between several interpretations, none of which come with concrete answers. There are a number of real dates correlated with these clues. One occurred in April 2013, meaning the process is now underway. Several others point to later this year as the start date. Still others point to a few years down the road.

Does it really matter?

Christ's disciples expected His kingdom to return during their lifetimes. It obviously did not.

It may be another 5,000 years until Christ decides to come again. I hope so, because this would give human souls extra time to repent. We could honestly use it. I hate to think of losing even just one soul because the group was being a bit impatient. I reach my spiritual hand out to them now. Grab hold. Please grab hold. Love is all that awaits you.
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as long as one looks to find a SHE or a HE to be seen in the Bible or coming in the light of the world ...they seek to remain divided within the realm of duality ...

when it is known that you are the Adamah .....then it will follow that you are the Adam and the Eve ..the HE and the SHE ....then it will follow that the husband shall join his wife ....as ONE

these known as the Adamah (first as male and female) and (second as man and woman)are the first and the last .....and these are each of US ....

when the SOUL and the SPIRIT join as ONE ...they produce the new creation .....the NEW YOU ...with a NEW NAME ....

the time for this is NOW .....

accept and become .....
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restore your Eden house within.

I did.

The tree of life is in us, it is a seal you open and remember. You drink the living water from Wisdom.

repair your temples

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
God is complicated and, as He lives outside of time he has the "time" to create multi-layered tales.

The stories are not only for generations past, but they apply today and they will also apply to generations to come. Patterns within patterns. Fractals beget fractals. We can see this in the rivers and trees and all of nature around us. We are less inclined, however, to recognize this in matters spiritual. This, however, does not mean that the patterns do not continue, for they very much do.

The woman is both one and many. She is ancient and modern, both. She is spiritual, flesh-and-bone and a constellation, all. She is a messenger, a sign, a counselor and a being. She is eternal, now. Her place is secure in the past, present and future. Time is a mirage created by God for our learning benefit. She is exactly who and what she is supposed to be.

If you are looking for a celestial sign in the words, it does exist. However, you will be forced to decide between several interpretations, none of which come with concrete answers. There are a number of real dates correlated with these clues. One occurred in April 2013, meaning the process is now underway. Several others point to later this year as the start date. Still others point to a few years down the road.

Does it really matter?

Christ's disciples expected His kingdom to return during their lifetimes. It obviously did not.

It may be another 5,000 years until Christ decides to come again. I hope so, because this would give human souls extra time to repent. We could honestly use it. I hate to think of losing even just one soul because the group was being a bit impatient. I reach my spiritual hand out to them now. Grab hold. Please grab hold. Love is all that awaits you.
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Very intriguing, AC, as are your other posts elsewhere. Can you tell us what happened in April 2013 of which you speak?
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Clothed with the sun meaning she came from heaven; the moon was under her feet.
12 stars?
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We talk across time, but it is both. Look to the skies for God's confirmation (astronomy aps do help these days, when we have all but lost ancient wisdom), but look both backwards and forwards in human history, for she lives across time as a symbol of her Son's message and position.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
God is complicated and, as He lives outside of time he has the "time" to create multi-layered tales.

The stories are not only for generations past, but they apply today and they will also apply to generations to come. Patterns within patterns. Fractals beget fractals. We can see this in the rivers and trees and all of nature around us. We are less inclined, however, to recognize this in matters spiritual. This, however, does not mean that the patterns do not continue, for they very much do.

The woman is both one and many. She is ancient and modern, both. She is spiritual, flesh-and-bone and a constellation, all. She is a messenger, a sign, a counselor and a being. She is eternal, now. Her place is secure in the past, present and future. Time is a mirage created by God for our learning benefit. She is exactly who and what she is supposed to be.

If you are looking for a celestial sign in the words, it does exist. However, you will be forced to decide between several interpretations, none of which come with concrete answers. There are a number of real dates correlated with these clues. One occurred in April 2013, meaning the process is now underway. Several others point to later this year as the start date. Still others point to a few years down the road.

Does it really matter?

Christ's disciples expected His kingdom to return during their lifetimes. It obviously did not.

It may be another 5,000 years until Christ decides to come again. I hope so, because this would give human souls extra time to repent. We could honestly use it. I hate to think of losing even just one soul because the group was being a bit impatient. I reach my spiritual hand out to them now. Grab hold. Please grab hold. Love is all that awaits you.
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Very intriguing, AC, as are your other posts elsewhere. Can you tell us what happened in April 2013 of which you speak?
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With respect to the April 2013 date, there are Judaic-Christians who follow this interpretation: [link to www.thecreatorscalendar.com]

This would mean that the end times have already begun.

However, as I mentioned, looking for a specific date is convenient only for those who perceive time, because our time as souls (body + spirit, as defined by scripture) is so limited. The spirit, however, lives on. In this form we are the same as the angels who serve God. Spirit knows no time. Time is only a temporary illusion. Rather than spending soul's time attempting to find specific dates (for you will die one day, after all), devote what days you do have to understanding your Creator.

It really does not matter who is vying to rule this world, or the next one, because we already know the outcome; we have been told who the victor will be. Time means nothing in infinity.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
God is complicated and, as He lives outside of time he has the "time" to create multi-layered tales.

The stories are not only for generations past, but they apply today and they will also apply to generations to come. Patterns within patterns. Fractals beget fractals. We can see this in the rivers and trees and all of nature around us. We are less inclined, however, to recognize this in matters spiritual. This, however, does not mean that the patterns do not continue, for they very much do.

The woman is both one and many. She is ancient and modern, both. She is spiritual, flesh-and-bone and a constellation, all. She is a messenger, a sign, a counselor and a being. She is eternal, now. Her place is secure in the past, present and future. Time is a mirage created by God for our learning benefit. She is exactly who and what she is supposed to be.

If you are looking for a celestial sign in the words, it does exist. However, you will be forced to decide between several interpretations, none of which come with concrete answers. There are a number of real dates correlated with these clues. One occurred in April 2013, meaning the process is now underway. Several others point to later this year as the start date. Still others point to a few years down the road.

Does it really matter?

Christ's disciples expected His kingdom to return during their lifetimes. It obviously did not.

It may be another 5,000 years until Christ decides to come again. I hope so, because this would give human souls extra time to repent. We could honestly use it. I hate to think of losing even just one soul because the group was being a bit impatient. I reach my spiritual hand out to them now. Grab hold. Please grab hold. Love is all that awaits you.
 Quoting: ??? 47659012


Very intriguing, AC, as are your other posts elsewhere. Can you tell us what happened in April 2013 of which you speak?
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With respect to the April 2013 date, there are Judaic-Christians who follow this interpretation: [link to www.thecreatorscalendar.com]

This would mean that the end times have already begun.

However, as I mentioned, looking for a specific date is convenient only for those who perceive time, because our time as souls (body + spirit, as defined by scripture) is so limited. The spirit, however, lives on. In this form we are the same as the angels who serve God. Spirit knows no time. Time is only a temporary illusion. Rather than spending soul's time attempting to find specific dates (for you will die one day, after all), devote what days you do have to understanding your Creator.

It really does not matter who is vying to rule this world, or the next one, because we already know the outcome; we have been told who the victor will be. Time means nothing in infinity.
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Thank you for the link. I read it through but need some more time to digest. I love what you say about "devote what days you do have to understanding your Creator." Nothing gets more exciting than that. God bless.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
patch your inner temples up:)


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That is beautiful. TY rose
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
as long as one looks to find a SHE or a HE to be seen in the Bible or coming in the light of the world ...they seek to remain divided within the realm of duality ...

when it is known that you are the Adamah .....then it will follow that you are the Adam and the Eve ..the HE and the SHE ....then it will follow that the husband shall join his wife ....as ONE

these known as the Adamah (first as male and female) and (second as man and woman)are the first and the last .....and these are each of US ....

when the SOUL and the SPIRIT join as ONE ...they produce the new creation .....the NEW YOU ...with a NEW NAME ....

the time for this is NOW .....

accept and become .....
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Refreshing and so freeing when experienced, and lived, isn't it?
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
You guys can go on and on but the book of revelation was NOT written by John of Patmos, it is NOT a christian document and it WAS written 500 years before christ by Isis the Prophetess and she ain't no new ager.

She was a very famous psychic and her book Revelations of Isis the Prophetess was a best seller for it's time. You can read it in several languages and editions.

She was speaking about the end times - the REAL end times that are still coming. All of the symbology is Egyptian - not that i expect a bunch of closed mind Christies to actually examine something and critically think about it. Like everything else the slaves of Rome were none too smart and none too educated (that is why they became Christians!)

So they just globbed a bunch a diverse ideas together, worked with the Roman spy Paul to create a new age religion for the Roman empire and it was called Christianity.

These uneducated slaves bought the crap, hook line and sinker.

Who is the woman clothed with the sun, the moon under her feet and a crown of 12 stars. She is ISIS you fucking idiots. Go to Egypt, go to the NY met museum - see for yourself.

Christianity for Dummies:

Osiris is God.

ISIS is Mary.

HORUS is Jesus

SET is Satan.

That is how they sold this load of crap to the rest of the world. So fill up these pages with your useless meanderings. But whatever you do - DON'T STUDY HISTORY.
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