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"A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?

 
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Isis and Horus
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I like this idea. The best archetypal image would have to be Tawaret though. She was worshiped as the ancient pole star Thuban aka alpha draconis. Hence the connection with the dragon and the precession of the equinoxes and all.
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Dude, I read your posts -- you're a QUACK. hf

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Yeah, you're a doctor. Dr Quack. hf
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
OP, you get it half right and half wrong.
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You are condescending and arrogant making such a statement without showing and intelligent rebuttal in your defense.

And by the way, don't assume that all of us are not stupid (like with your ending "This concludes this brief exercise of spiritual intellectualism.") You are condesending and arrogant. Those are not the values of a REAL CHRISTIAN. If you possess knowledge that is more than what others know, you should share it in a non-condesending non-threatening way. I have and continue to read the Bible and have a good understanding of it.
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Where did you see threats on this thread -- or others of mine.

Thread: The False Prophet -- The Lawless One -- he will do away with CHRISTIANITY (The Falling Away) and CHRISTIANITY goes underground.
Thread: Alleluia '2' those who will be 'Left Behind' -- The righteousness of the Ancient of Days will not forsake you!

This is not the first time you have done this (put up a random post to show how "smart" you are).
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Thank you, and there will be more. hf

First, you lost me when you said "for those who were left behind,". You obviously believe (falsely) that you and the other "true believers/saints/elect" are going to follow 1 Thesselonians. Wrong. 2 Thesselonians said that the "rapture" (which the word is not in the Bible) doesn't happen until AFTER the antichrist will stand in Jerusalem claiming to be Jesus.
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I go according to the end time Book -- not some dude with a chip on his shoulder.

Revelation
Chapter 15

2 -- Then I saw something like a sea of glass mingled with fire. On the sea of glass were standing those who had won the victory over the beast and its image and the number that signified its name. They were holding God's harps,

3 -- and they sang the song of Moses, the servant of GOD, and the song of the Lamb: "Great and wonderful are your works, LORD God almighty. Just and true are your ways, O King of the nations.

4 -- Who will not fear you, LORD, or glorify your name? For you alone are holy. All the nations will come and worship before you, for your righteous acts have been revealed."



On the sea of glass were standing those (Elects) who have exercised the loop hole in the Law that cuts short the time the saints remain on earth whereby they 'Rapture' away from the beast-system and find themselves on the Ark that no-one can sink headed for Paradise Eden, (sea of glass).
[link to eden.7forum.net]

The mingled fire is GOD

Hebrews 12

28 -- Therefore, we who are receiving the unshakable kingdom should have gratitude, with which we should offer worship pleasing to GOD in reverence and awe.

29 -- For our GOD is a consuming fire.



As the elects are separated from the beast-system they are singing how those left behind do not fear the LORD, and neither glorify His great name. Surely the scoffers of the last days.

(2)Peter 3
3 -- Know this first of all, that in the last days scoffers will come (to) scoff, living according to their own desires

4 -- and saying, "Where is the promise of his coming? From the time when our ancestors fell asleep, everything has remained as it was from the beginning of creation."

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Then you go off with the 2012 bull. We do not know the hour but we do know the season. 2012 is Nostradamus and Mayan crap.
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Numbers don't lie. (2012.666)
Thread: 1000 years is like 1 day for GOD -- 2 Peter 3:8 -- this equals to 41.666 <<-- BEWARE OF HIS WRATH

The Beast you said was Iran/Russia and then the next paragraph said it was Europe. Look at the quote. You said it. Next time you want to act superior, do it somewhere else. Don't assume just because you can't see me, you can beat me up! peace
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I've always stated the three. Thanks.

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
They are humans. A woman and a child birthed by her. That is all I can say. It is not a group of people or a nation or a religion. This singular child is destined to overcome all nations and all peoples.

I think in revelation there are many passages about "he who overcomes" I believe it refers to this male child.

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Very interesting thread OP...I have to agree with this post.

hf
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I did, the flowers were mine. hf
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Revelation 12 says the huge red dragon awaiting to devour the child has seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems,(Rev.12:3) We know that this is the same beast in Revelation 13 and is yet to come, when it does, the beast will hate the Harlot (USA) and at some point in the nearby future will consume her flesh and burn her with fire,(Rev.17:16) -- so the child cannot be JESUS

We also know that the seven churches are the first to be addressed in the Book of Revelation, and they are addressed as churches, not women.

'Woman' in the book of Revelation is in reference of cities. The woman that flees into the desert is a city and among the females many are pregnant and become pregnant and give birth to the future of generations (holy ones) who will be connected to Heaven to carry out the LORD'S plan for those who were left behind, they will possess the Covenant of GOD (BoE) and triumph.

"But the dragon becomes angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus," (Rev.12:17) -- Remember the beast will wage war against the holy ones of the Most High.

Daniel 7
21 -- For, as I watched, that horn made war against the holy ones and was victorious

22 -- until the Ancient One arrived; judgment was pronounced in favor of the holy ones of the Most High, and the time came when the holy ones possessed the kingdom.

The city is Jerusalem fearing Nuclear attack by the beast (Iran,Russia) turning against the Harlot (USA) and Israel.

2012 is when the first beast of Revelation consumes and burns the Harlot with fire, Jerusalem flees into the desert. In addition, the Beast (europe) and the ten horns will be granted royal authority for 1hour (41.666 years) after they get rid of the USA (nuke war) and the Euro becomes the petrol-currency denomination of the whole wide World.

Revelation 17
12 -- The ten horns that you saw represent ten kings who have not yet been crowned; they will receive royal authority along with the beast for one hour.

This concludes this brief exercise of spiritual intellectualism.

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
They are humans. A woman and a child birthed by her. That is all I can say. It is not a group of people or a nation or a religion. This singular child is destined to overcome all nations and all peoples.

I think in revelation there are many passages about "he who overcomes" I believe it refers to this male child.

hf

hf

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Very interesting thread OP...I have to agree with this post.

hf

I did, the flowers were mine. hf
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ahh the power of 3 ;)

hf hf hf
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Dude, I read your posts -- you're a QUACK. hf

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Hey, Mr Perceptive

You said you read my posts...
so that means you read my post
where I say Outraged's avatar
photo reminds me of myself.

So why did you call me "dude" ?





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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
I seriously suggest that yall go read Conversations with Nostradamus by Dolores Cannon before yall form any opinions on the apocalypse.
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Hey, Mr Perceptive

You said you read my posts...
so that means you read my post
where I say Outraged's avatar
photo reminds me of myself.

So why did you call me "dude" ?
 Quoting: Dr Doom

Simple, I just read your stated replies to my question, I didn't bother investigating any of your other quackery.

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Hey, Mr Perceptive

You said you read my posts...
so that means you read my post
where I say Outraged's avatar
photo reminds me of myself.

So why did you call me "dude" ?



Simple, I just read your stated replies to my question, I didn't bother investigating any of your other quackery.

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So, you now you retract your statement...
you didn't actually read my posts here.

surprise surprise


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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
LOL she's a real woman and she has the moon under feet....now folks what does the crescent moon represent? Islam.

She is clothed in the sun of the Christ and she is mentioned in Psalm 45. She is the servant of the LORD mentioned in Isaiah 49. etc etc etc.





The moon at her feet is Islam.

Crosses above Russian Orthodox churches
have a sunburst in the center [Christ]
a circle of twelve stars around the sunburst
[Christian Israel] and a crescent moon at the
foot of the cross [Islam.]

See photo of such a cross:

[link to thumb1.shutterstock.com.edgesuite.net]



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The 12 stars on her head are about a state of being and they were placed upon her head. Archangel Michael is mentioned in this text because she was known to be working with Archangel Michael at the time. The dragon was a man involved in spirituality.This all happened before Obama came on the scene in chapter 13.

1260 days ended in 2008.

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Revelation comes from an earlier work (about 500 bc) called the Revelation of Isis the Prophetess. She was a psychic from Egypt and she is clearly talking about Isis and Horus. None of Revelation makes any sense until you know who really wrote it.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Revelation comes from an earlier work (about 500 bc) called the Revelation of Isis the Prophetess. She was a psychic from Egypt and she is clearly talking about Isis and Horus. None of Revelation makes any sense until you know who really wrote it.
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Biblical scholars state that the prophecies are a compilation of the prophecies in the OT and they predate 500BC.

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Simple, I just read your stated replies to my question, I didn't bother investigating any of your other quackery.

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So, you now you retract your statement...
you didn't actually read my posts here.

surprise surprise


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I'm not gonna read what quack posters are saying to one another. I only read that which is of topic. Thanks.

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what is this bullshit?
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
The 12 stars on her head are about a state of being and they were placed upon her head. Archangel Michael is mentioned in this text because she was known to be working with Archangel Michael at the time. The dragon was a man involved in spirituality. This all happened before Obama came on the scene in chapter 13.

1260 days ended in 2008.

Lotus

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Ok, you have my interest.

Explain further.

Who specifically was the man involved in spirituality ?

When in 2008 ?


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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Revelation comes from an earlier work (about 500 bc) called the Revelation of Isis the Prophetess. She was a psychic from Egypt and she is clearly talking about Isis and Horus. None of Revelation makes any sense until you know who really wrote it.
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Biblical scholars state that the prophecies are a compilation of the prophecies in the OT and they predate 500BC.

Lotus
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True, and you still haven't told us who is the child.

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
if you want to find her try these:

hu ishtar isis tara moon star crystal kaballah

read deep... there's a lot to go through, but can be found.
~you are love
~the key...it's almost time.

!poke the bulge!

~here is my hand...it can be closed like a fist...or open to hold...yet it is still my hand.
~Today is cancelled...due to lack of interest.
~Without order nothing exists. Without chaos nothing evolves.

ac 618285:
~"without both order and chaos, the illusion would not be able to continue.
one day in the far away future, order will submit to chaos and the entire illusion will vanish."
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LOL she's a real woman and she has the moon under feet....now folks what does the crescent moon represent? Islam. She is clothed in the sun of the Christ and she is mentioned in Psalm 45. She is the servant of the LORD mentioned in Isaiah 49. etc etc etc.

There is a fresco of her in the vatican. You will also find her in the tarot as the High Priestess, (popess) the Empress and Queen of Swords.
[link to tarotstudy.tribe.net]
[link to www.aeclectic.net]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Now most people don't know what the B & J means but she does.

[link to www.learntarot.com]

Nostradamus also gave a picture of the three different realities of her that Jesus also predicted. see plate 44.
[link to www.crystalinks.com]

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Ok those of you that have looked at the cards above with the moon under her feet.

Here is more information about her in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

TUESDAY, 12 JANUARY 2010

High Priest Messianic Prophecy


In the Dead Sea Scrolls we find more messianic prophecies in regard to the last days. This one mentions the faithful and the High Priest 1QSb=1Q28b. The renowned Dead Sea Scrolls scholar Geza Vermes provided a translation of a fragment that is called "The Blessing of the High Priest" and he wrote that it was intended for the messianic age and for the institution of the new community.

First there is a blessing of the faithful, those that do the will of God and follow his instructions. It also mentions the everlasting covenant predicted to come by Prophet Isaiah and Prophet Hosea.

"May the Lord bless you from the Abode of his holiness; may he open for you from heaven an eternal fountain which shall not fail. May he favour you with every heavenly blessing; may he teach you the knowledge of the Holy Ones! May he unlock for you the everlasting fountain; may he not withhold the waters of life from them that thirst."


The Blessing of the High Priest


May the Lord lift his countenance towards you; may he delight in you the sweet odour of fragrance. May he choose them that sit in your priestly college; may he store up all your sacred offerings, and in the season of (harvest), all your seed! May he lift His countenance towards all your congregation!

May he place upon your head the royal diadem in everlasting glory; may he sanctify your seed in glory without end! May he grant you everlasting peace. May he fight at the head of your thousands until the generation of falsehood is ended.....many peoples before you...all the riches of the world. For God has established all the foundations of.....may He lay the foundation of your peace forever!


The criteria of the above prophecy:


1. The college, the seat of teaching
2. The congregation
3. Numbered in the thousands
4. Offered that which is sacred

[link to academysounds.blogspot.com]

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August 22, 2008

message to Joseph

Jesus: My Blessed Mother is the Queen of heaven and earth as She was described in the book of Revelation. She is clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars on Her head. She is My Mother and My Father protected Her in giving birth to Me and in caring for Me. The evil one tried to conquer Her but he did not succeed. In fact I defeated him with My Mother at My side.

My Mother was able to bring about the defeat of Satan because of My power. With My Mother at My side, I broke the power of Satan and brought many people from his kingdom of darkness into My Kingdom of light and I brought this about by the suffering of My Passion and My death on the cross. My Mother stood at the foot of the cross as I endured the crucifixion and She saw Me in great suffering until My death. A sword pierced Her heart as She stood there seeing me die in great pain.

My Mother is now in heaven in body and soul and the Father has crowned Her as the Queen of heaven and earth. I, Jesus, gave Her to you as your Mother and She works unceasingly in heaven to bring you all to Me, Her Son and Your Saviour.

Honor Her as your Mother who always intercedes for you. She loves you and wants the salvation of every one of Her children. Love your Mother with all your heart and pray the rosary regularly. Accept Her messages addressed to you calling you to repentance for your sins, to believe in Me, Your Redeemer, to pray regularly and to go to the Eucharistic Celebration as often as you can. You are asked to go to Church every Sunday and during the week if it is possible. Listen to Her and She will bring you to Me and I will show you the way to salvation.
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Your last paragraph is nothing but complete non-sense. Since during the time of Christ and there after, the holy day was Saturday. Christians did not start worshiping on Sunday until 300-400 years after Christ died. It was explained to me by my father, a Chatholic Deacon with many years of formal & personal religous education, that Sunday worship was started to represent the celebration of Christ's raising from the dead on the third day. Friday he was crusified, Sunday he rose again.
Now, my father and I are polar opposites, in regards to religion. But, I do respect him and his beliefs. By the way, my response to him in this discussion was; once again, man rewrote the word of God.....so who really knows?
So, we all fall in line and hope that what we believe is right and hold strong to the fact that the only thing we can have is FAITH. Truth, myths or lies, no one can be sure... And so, the roller coaster ride continues.
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Revelation 12
5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Who is she, and who is her son?

Come one come all...

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It is Mary, who gives birth to Jesus (English names) who has now ascended and resides with God until His return. The dragon of Rev12 is the devil, satan.
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August 22, 2008

message to Joseph

Jesus: My Blessed Mother is the Queen of heaven and earth as She was described in the book of Revelation. She is clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and a crown of twelve stars on Her head. She is My Mother and My Father protected Her in giving birth to Me and in caring for Me. The evil one tried to conquer Her but he did not succeed. In fact I defeated him with My Mother at My side.

My Mother was able to bring about the defeat of Satan because of My power. With My Mother at My side, I broke the power of Satan and brought many people from his kingdom of darkness into My Kingdom of light and I brought this about by the suffering of My Passion and My death on the cross. My Mother stood at the foot of the cross as I endured the crucifixion and She saw Me in great suffering until My death. A sword pierced Her heart as She stood there seeing me die in great pain.

My Mother is now in heaven in body and soul and the Father has crowned Her as the Queen of heaven and earth. I, Jesus, gave Her to you as your Mother and She works unceasingly in heaven to bring you all to Me, Her Son and Your Saviour.

Honor Her as your Mother who always intercedes for you. She loves you and wants the salvation of every one of Her children. Love your Mother with all your heart and pray the rosary regularly. Accept Her messages addressed to you calling you to repentance for your sins, to believe in Me, Your Redeemer, to pray regularly and to go to the Eucharistic Celebration as often as you can. You are asked to go to Church every Sunday and during the week if it is possible. Listen to Her and She will bring you to Me and I will show you the way to salvation.


Your last paragraph is nothing but complete non-sense. Since during the time of Christ and there after, the holy day was Saturday. Christians did not start worshiping on Sunday until 300-400 years after Christ died. It was explained to me by my father, a Chatholic Deacon with many years of formal & personal religous education, that Sunday worship was started to represent the celebration of Christ's raising from the dead on the third day. Friday he was crusified, Sunday he rose again.
Now, my father and I are polar opposites, in regards to religion. But, I do respect him and his beliefs. By the way, my response to him in this discussion was; once again, man rewrote the word of God.....so who really knows?
So, we all fall in line and hope that what we believe is right and hold strong to the fact that the only thing we can have is FAITH. Truth, myths or lies, no one can be sure... And so, the roller coaster ride continues.
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Our Lord was hung on a Wednesday . Peace.
We will pass through the Seven Years or serve God's Will as martyrs.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
When did the Dragon become angry with Mary and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus?


Rev.12:17 -- Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus.

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Mary is ever-virgin. Jesus was divinely conceived, He is her only child. The reason Our Lord gave her to the care of John from the Cross.

And at the same time, spiritually, St. John represents humanity, Our Lord gave Mary to all of us from the Cross. She is our mother so satan wars against us her children to this day.

Wow, just wow.

So you believe that after Jesus resurrected from the cross and was raised to Heaven -- Mary [6] fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by GOD, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days.

Afterwards [7] war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels battled against the dragon. The dragon and its angels fought back, [8] but they did not prevail and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. [9] The huge dragon, the ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, who deceived the whole world, was thrown down to earth, and its angels were thrown down with it.

And according to you
[13] the dragon (satan) saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman (mary) who had given birth to the male child (jesus).

And Mary [14] was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year.

But Satan [15] however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. [16] But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth.

And then finally [17] the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus.

Wow, and there is no mention of this event from the apostle Paul, or from Nicodemus, or any other gospel from Matthew, Luke, Mark, Peter, for they were all living. Even the Gnostic scriptures don't tell of such a fascinating imaginative colorful tale.

Thanks for sharing such a wonderful mind.

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Hi,

That is not what I said, reread the quote. Mary is mother
to humanity. Jesus gave us His beloved mother, to help and
guide us to Him. Logically, she battles Satan for all of
us and she is appearing many places in our time because
the spiritual war is heating up, we all see it less the disbelievers We are in Tribulation, the End of Times.
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So anywhere I can read about this Isis prophetess on the web? Cant find anything after searching. I think I saw something about it in the bookstore though.
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OP, you get it half right and half wrong.

You are condescending and arrogant making such a statement without showing and intelligent rebuttal in your defense.


And by the way, don't assume that all of us are not stupid (like with your ending "This concludes this brief exercise of spiritual intellectualism.") You are condesending and arrogant. Those are not the values of a REAL CHRISTIAN. If you possess knowledge that is more than what others know, you should share it in a non-condesending non-threatening way. I have and continue to read the Bible and have a good understanding of it.

Where did you see threats on this thread -- or others of mine.

Thread: The False Prophet -- The Lawless One -- he will do away with CHRISTIANITY (The Falling Away) and CHRISTIANITY goes underground.
Thread: Alleluia '2' those who will be 'Left Behind' -- The righteousness of the Ancient of Days will not forsake you!


This is not the first time you have done this (put up a random post to show how "smart" you are).

Thank you, and there will be more. hf


First, you lost me when you said "for those who were left behind,". You obviously believe (falsely) that you and the other "true believers/saints/elect" are going to follow 1 Thesselonians. Wrong. 2 Thesselonians said that the "rapture" (which the word is not in the Bible) doesn't happen until AFTER the antichrist will stand in Jerusalem claiming to be Jesus.

I go according to the end time Book -- not some dude with a chip on his shoulder.

Revelation
Chapter 15

2 -- Then I saw something like a sea of glass mingled with fire. On the sea of glass were standing those who had won the victory over the beast and its image and the number that signified its name. They were holding God's harps,

3 -- and they sang the song of Moses, the servant of GOD, and the song of the Lamb: "Great and wonderful are your works, LORD God almighty. Just and true are your ways, O King of the nations.

4 -- Who will not fear you, LORD, or glorify your name? For you alone are holy. All the nations will come and worship before you, for your righteous acts have been revealed."



On the sea of glass were standing those (Elects) who have exercised the loop hole in the Law that cuts short the time the saints remain on earth whereby they 'Rapture' away from the beast-system and find themselves on the Ark that no-one can sink headed for Paradise Eden, (sea of glass).
[link to eden.7forum.net]

The mingled fire is GOD

Hebrews 12

28 -- Therefore, we who are receiving the unshakable kingdom should have gratitude, with which we should offer worship pleasing to GOD in reverence and awe.

29 -- For our GOD is a consuming fire.



As the elects are separated from the beast-system they are singing how those left behind do not fear the LORD, and neither glorify His great name. Surely the scoffers of the last days.

(2)Peter 3
3 -- Know this first of all, that in the last days scoffers will come (to) scoff, living according to their own desires

4 -- and saying, "Where is the promise of his coming? From the time when our ancestors fell asleep, everything has remained as it was from the beginning of creation."

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Then you go off with the 2012 bull. We do not know the hour but we do know the season. 2012 is Nostradamus and Mayan crap.

Numbers don't lie. (2012.666)
Thread: 1000 years is like 1 day for GOD -- 2 Peter 3:8 -- this equals to 41.666 <<-- BEWARE OF HIS WRATH


The Beast you said was Iran/Russia and then the next paragraph said it was Europe. Look at the quote. You said it. Next time you want to act superior, do it somewhere else. Don't assume just because you can't see me, you can beat me up! peace

I've always stated the three. Thanks.

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Obviously, I hit a nerve and am correct about your intelligence..."You are condescending and arrogant making such a statement without showing and intelligent rebuttal in your defense." without showing AND intelligent rebuttal....you mean AN intelligent rebuttal. Either you were so mad at me you couldn't get the grammar right or just so unintelligent that you actually think that is correct.
"On the sea of glass were standing those (Elects) who have exercised the loop hole in the Law that cuts short the time the saints remain on earth whereby they 'Rapture' away from the beast-system and find themselves on the Ark that no-one can sink headed for Paradise Eden, (sea of glass).
[link to eden.7forum.net] You go around talking about quoting the Bible and yet you again proved my point that "The Rapture" is not in the Bible because you point to a link. Make up your mind, do you stick to the Bible completely or listen to what someone came up with in "a vision" in the late 1800s (Margret MacDonald with the Fly Away Doctrine).

Look, there is enough room in the world for two smart people. Just don't think you have all of the answers because I say you don't and neither do I. We just happen to have alot of them. Share them the right way and they might be received.

Me peace
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No one replies about Mary being called "woman" many times
in Scripture, immaturity the reason. You all just continue to argue. You can't go by personal opinion. It will get you no where.

It's obvious in the wording and the Church confirms it,
Mary is the woman in Revelation 12:1. Not everyone here,
people will take their denial of Mary to such an extreme.

How many "who is the woman in Revelation 12:1" threads is it going to take? Jesus gave us a way we can know His, -God's Truth-, by the authority of the Church He established, the Roman Catholic Church.

The news is so serious, come along, God wants us all to be
one and to be with Him in Heaven one day. We don't know when we will be taken (die)! So..confess with true contrition your grave sins (serious/mortal) to God and PRAY. Catholics have to do more, they must go to Confession. Ask God to help you believe, to help you love and pray more.

This is the only way to get in the "state of grace." And an aid here, read the Douay-Rheims, the difficult verses, there are footnotes with the teachings of the Church about the verse. Go purchase the Douay-Rheims Bible while you can.


www.drbo.org


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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Tony Bushby has written extensively about Isis the Phrophetess.
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Revelation 12
5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Who is she, and who is her son?

Come one come all...

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It is Mary, who gives birth to Jesus (English names) who has now ascended and resides with God until His return. The dragon of Rev12 is the devil, satan.
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So you believe that after Jesus resurrected from the cross and was raised to Heaven -- Mary [6] fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by GOD, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days.

Afterwards [7] war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels battled against the dragon. The dragon and its angels fought back, [8] but they did not prevail and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. [9] The huge dragon, the ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, who deceived the whole world, was thrown down to earth, and its angels were thrown down with it.

And according to you
[13] the dragon (satan) saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman (mary) who had given birth to the male child (jesus).

And Mary [14] was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year.

But Satan [15] however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. [16] But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth.

And then finally [17] the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus.

Wow, and there is no mention of this event from the apostle Paul, or from Nicodemus, or any other gospel from Matthew, Luke, Mark, Peter, for they were all living. Even the Gnostic scriptures don't tell of such a fascinating imaginative colorful tale.

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Tony Bushby has written extensively about Isis the Phrophetess.
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Wake up dear one, you follow New Age lies!