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"A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?

 
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The 12 stars on her head are about a state of being and they were placed upon her head. Archangel Michael is mentioned in this text because she was known to be working with Archangel Michael at the time. The dragon was a man involved in spirituality. This all happened before Obama came on the scene in chapter 13.

1260 days ended in 2008.

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Ok, you have my interest.

Explain further.

Who specifically was the man involved in spirituality ?

When in 2008 ?


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When did the Dragon become angry with Mary and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus?

Rev.12:17 -- Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus.

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Mary is ever-virgin. Jesus was divinely conceived, He is her only child. The reason Our Lord gave her to the care of John from the Cross.

And at the same time, spiritually, St. John represents humanity, Our Lord gave Mary to all of us from the Cross. She is our mother so satan wars against us her children to this day.
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Wow, just wow.

So you believe that after Jesus resurrected from the cross and was raised to Heaven -- Mary [6] fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by GOD, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days.

Afterwards [7] war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels battled against the dragon. The dragon and its angels fought back, [8] but they did not prevail and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. [9] The huge dragon, the ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, who deceived the whole world, was thrown down to earth, and its angels were thrown down with it.

And according to you
[13] the dragon (satan) saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman (mary) who had given birth to the male child (jesus).

And Mary [14] was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year.

But Satan [15] however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. [16] But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth.

And then finally [17] the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus.

Wow, and there is no mention of this event from the apostle Paul, or from Nicodemus, or any other gospel from Matthew, Luke, Mark, Peter, for they were all living. Even the Gnostic scriptures don't tell of such a fascinating imaginative colorful tale.

Thanks for sharing such a wonderful mind.

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 Quoting: THE OP

Hi,

That is not what I said, reread the quote. Mary is mother
to humanity. Jesus gave us His beloved mother, to help and
guide us to Him. Logically, she battles Satan for all of
us and she is appearing many places in our time because
the spiritual war is heating up, we all see it less the disbelievers We are in Tribulation, the End of Times.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010

Sorry but this is exactly what you are saying quoting the events in Revelation 12 -- she (Mary) would have had to have flee into the desert according to the said scriptures and this event was never once mentioned in any Gospel, canon or not.


14 -- But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year.

15 -- The serpent, however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current.

16 -- But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth.

17 -- Then the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus.


Just admit you and church leaders don't know.

I'll admit that I do, know.

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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Revelation 12
5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Who is she, and who is her son?

Come one come all...

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It is Mary, who gives birth to Jesus (English names) who has now ascended and resides with God until His return. The dragon of Rev12 is the devil, satan.

So you believe that after Jesus resurrected from the cross and was raised to Heaven -- Mary [6] fled into the desert where she had a place prepared by GOD, that there she might be taken care of for twelve hundred and sixty days.

Afterwards [7] war broke out in heaven; Michael and his angels battled against the dragon. The dragon and its angels fought back, [8] but they did not prevail and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. [9] The huge dragon, the ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, who deceived the whole world, was thrown down to earth, and its angels were thrown down with it.

And according to you
[13] the dragon (satan) saw that it had been thrown down to the earth, it pursued the woman (mary) who had given birth to the male child (jesus).

And Mary [14] was given the two wings of the great eagle, so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year.

But Satan [15] however, spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current. [16] But the earth helped the woman and opened its mouth and swallowed the flood that the dragon spewed out of its mouth.

And then finally [17] the dragon became angry with the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring, those who keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus.

Wow, and there is no mention of this event from the apostle Paul, or from Nicodemus, or any other gospel from Matthew, Luke, Mark, Peter, for they were all living. Even the Gnostic scriptures don't tell of such a fascinating imaginative colorful tale.

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The Gnostic writings are not divine. They are a waste
of time. Revelation is prophetic (not all of
it)...Some of it hasn't happened yet. The spiritual
battle with Satan is ongoing, with a time period of peace on the earth...until the final battle with the evil one and
then the Final Judgment.

We are facing now the end of a period of time, the end of evil. God is in the process right now of removing all evil from the earth and the "new time" will be glorious, it's
referred to as the Era of Peace.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
The 12 stars on her head are about a state of being and they were placed upon her head. Archangel Michael is mentioned in this text because she was known to be working with Archangel Michael at the time. The dragon was a man involved in spirituality. This all happened before Obama came on the scene in chapter 13.

1260 days ended in 2008.

Lotus




Ok, you have my interest.

Explain further.

Who specifically was the man involved in spirituality ?

When in 2008 ?


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Dr. Doom,

You are doomed taking anything lotus says seriously,
she is a New Ager, she denies Jesus is God. She thinks
she has been given special charisms, LOL.

She constantly tells everyone, she has the power. LOL.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
The 12 stars on her head are about a state of being and they were placed upon her head. Archangel Michael is mentioned in this text because she was known to be working with Archangel Michael at the time. The dragon was a man involved in spirituality. This all happened before Obama came on the scene in chapter 13.

1260 days ended in 2008.

Lotus




Ok, you have my interest.

Explain further.

Who specifically was the man involved in spirituality ?

When in 2008 ?


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Dr. Doom,

You are doomed taking anything lotus says seriously,
she is a New Ager, she denies Jesus is God. She thinks
she has been given special charisms, LOL.

She constantly tells everyone, she has the power. LOL.

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I was just curious about her two statements I put in bold type...
and wanted her to be more specific.

Sometimes she will post something interesting but then
she goes off on her new age tangent... and I lose interest.
I wanted to try to pin her down on these two statements...
but so far she's ignoring me.



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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Wow, and there is no mention of this event from the apostle Paul, or from Nicodemus, or any other gospel from Matthew, Luke, Mark, Peter, for they were all living. Even the Gnostic scriptures don't tell of such a fascinating imaginative colorful tale.

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The Gnostic writings are not divine.

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Who told you this? The Devil?

<< 2 Timothy 3:16 >>

New International Version (©1984)
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

New Living Translation (©2007)
All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

International Standard Version (©2008)
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness,

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Every Scripture passage is inspired by God. All of them are useful for teaching, pointing out errors, correcting people, and training them for a life that has God's approval.

King James Bible
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

American King James Version
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

American Standard Version
Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness.

Bible in Basic English
Every holy Writing which comes from God is of profit for teaching, for training, for guiding, for education in righteousness:

Douay-Rheims Bible
All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice,

Darby Bible Translation
Every scripture is divinely inspired, and profitable for teaching, for conviction, for correction, for instruction in righteousness;

English Revised Version
Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness:

Webster's Bible Translation
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Weymouth New Testament
Every Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for convincing, for correction of error, and for instruction in right doing;

World English Bible
Every Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness,

Young's Literal Translation
every Writing is God-breathed, and profitable for teaching, for conviction, for setting aright, for instruction that is in righteousness,

Revelation is prophetic (not all of
it)...Some of it hasn't happened yet. The spiritual
battle with Satan is ongoing, with a time period of peace on the earth...until the final battle with the evil one and
then the Final Judgment.

We are facing now the end of a period of time, the end of evil. God is in the process right now of removing all evil from the earth and the "new time" will be glorious, it's
referred to as the Era of Peace.
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So who is the child? hf

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Sorry but this is exactly what you are saying quoting the events in Revelation 12 -- she (Mary) would have had to have flee into the desert according to the said scriptures and this event was never once mentioned in any Gospel, canon or not.

Why do you keep saying this, you can't follow personal opinion, see how it causes error.

Not everything, in the Bible, is written in the four Gospels. And in the four Gospels, isn't it Luke, Mary states "all generations shall call me blessed." The reason, she is special, a most wonderful help in redemptive history, giving her "yes", Our Lord's birth and during His life on earth, for 20 centuries since and now. We are in a special time in that history.

Mary is helping her Son and all of the Blessed Trinity in this very serious time. Only if you believe, we are going
into the desert again. Just like in the past (Old Testament) and as Revelation states...that you keep inquiring about. (thanks though)

God protects His people. When they come to chip you, persecute you, haul you away for not taking the chip, for being Christian, we are going to be guided to the refuges. God's people, the Remnant. Trust God. The messages say
we must call out in the name of Jesus Christ, ask our guardian
angels to guide us to the refuges, places of holy ground.
we won't be seen or detected by the evil ones.
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Why do you keep saying this, you can't follow personal opinion, see how it causes error.
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I keep reiterating it because its what the scriptures say, I won't change the scriptures, I'm not the one thinking to change the feast days and the law.

I don't follow any personnel opinions, I strictly abide by the said scriptures (Book of Revelation), it is you in error contending with a personnel opinion other then the written word.

hf

Not everything, in the Bible, is written in the four Gospels. And in the four Gospels, isn't it Luke, Mary states "all generations shall call me blessed." The reason, she is special, a most wonderful help in redemptive history, giving her "yes", Our Lord's birth and during His life on earth, for 20 centuries since and now. We are in a special time in that history.
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Mary being persecuted into the desert by Satan is not something small in nature and inconsequential to the Church, if this is what took place after Jesus rose from the grave and was taken to Heaven, then it would have been documented in the Gospels, in the letters from Paul, in Gnostic scriptures, and last but not least especially in the Gospel of Nicodemus.

Mary is helping her Son and all of the Blessed Trinity in this very serious time. Only if you believe, we are going
into the desert again. Just like in the past (Old Testament) and as Revelation states...that you keep inquiring about. (thanks though)
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I'm not going into the desert, I won't be left behind.

Revelation
Chapter 15

2 -- Then I saw something like a sea of glass mingled with fire. On the sea of glass were standing those who had won the victory over the beast and its image and the number that signified its name. They were holding God's harps,

3 -- and they sang the song of Moses, the servant of GOD, and the song of the Lamb: "Great and wonderful are your works, LORD God almighty. Just and true are your ways, O King of the nations.

4 -- Who will not fear you, LORD, or glorify your name? For you alone are holy. All the nations will come and worship before you, for your righteous acts have been revealed."



On the sea of glass were standing those (Elects) who have exercised the loop hole in the Law that cuts short the time the saints remain on earth whereby they 'Rapture' away from the beast-system and find themselves on the Ark that no-one can sink headed for Paradise Eden, (sea of glass).
[link to eden.7forum.net]

The mingled fire is GOD

Hebrews 12

28 -- Therefore, we who are receiving the unshakable kingdom should have gratitude, with which we should offer worship pleasing to GOD in reverence and awe.

29 -- For our GOD is a consuming fire.



As the elects are separated from the beast-system they are singing how those left behind do not fear the LORD, and neither glorify His great name. Surely the scoffers of the last days.

(2)Peter 3
3 -- Know this first of all, that in the last days scoffers will come (to) scoff, living according to their own desires

4 -- and saying, "Where is the promise of his coming? From the time when our ancestors fell asleep, everything has remained as it was from the beginning of creation."

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God protects His people. When they come to chip you, persecute you, haul you away for not taking the chip, for being Christian, we are going to be guided to the refuges. God's people, the Remnant. Trust God. The messages say
we must call out in the name of Jesus Christ, ask our guardian
angels to guide us to the refuges, places of holy ground.
we won't be seen or detected by the evil ones.
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No-one is getting chipped.

The image of the beast has been stealthily accepted for decades now, and soon when the beast will be saturated with followers the beginning of the end will take place.

But to reach the understanding of the image we must first understand the number -- 666

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SIXTH HEAVEN:
(2)Enoch 19:
1 -- And thence those men took me and bore me up on to the sixth Heaven, and there I saw seven bands of Angels. These are the Archangels who are above angels, measure all life in Heaven and on earth, and write all the souls of men, and all their deeds, and their lives before the LORD'S face; in their midst are six Phoenixes and six Cherubim and six six-winged ones. [6.6.6]

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This number is the number of the sixth Heaven.

The mark (image) of the Beast is the part where wisdom is needed. Revelation says the Beast that the inhabitants (me/you -- maybe) will see existed once but now exists no longer. It will come up from the abyss and is headed for destruction. (Revelation 17:8)

What beast was buried in an abyss? Answer: Azazel

GOD had him bonded hand and foot and cast into a dark opening (abyss) in the desert until Judgment day (destruction)--(1Enoch 10-6). The mark is the image of this evilness (teachings of azazel) should you wish to accept it. GOD created mankind that we could have His image (good), but free-will allows us to choose His counter-part (evil), and many have chosen to accept the image of the Beast.

The number (666) is where these Watchers (azazel et al) once stood on the 6th Heaven whereby they saw the daughters of men and how good they were and came down and took to themselves wives, and befouled the earth with their deeds.

-- What are these deeds?

Azazel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, witchcraft and sorcery so that the world became altered. Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways.

Revelation 18-2 says Babylon the great (USA) has become a haunt for demons and a cage for every unclean spirit, a cage for every unclean bird (fallen angels).

-- How does Azazel manage this?

Well its not Azazel per say, it is his teachings (deeds) of warfare, sorcery, fornication, etc, this is the power of the Beast who will come again, only when he does most people of the World have already taken his image. This image/mark has slowly been accepted for decades leading to a time in the nearby future (2012) where the Beast will hate the Harlot, and when he does he is allowed to wage war against the holy ones and conquer them (Rev 13-7) because many holy people will not exercise the loop-hole in the letter of the Law, and the Beast is in the details.

The image of the beast leads to when Azazel was placed in an abyss thousands of years ago before the Flood by Holy GOD and his mighty Angels found within the pages of that time frame, The Book of Enoch -- The Covenant, your loop-hole.
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The 12 stars on her head are about a state of being and they were placed upon her head. Archangel Michael is mentioned in this text because she was known to be working with Archangel Michael at the time. The dragon was a man involved in spirituality. This all happened before Obama came on the scene in chapter 13. 1260 days ended in 2008.

Lotus

Ok, you have my interest.

Explain further.

Who specifically was the man involved in spirituality ?

When in 2008 ?


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I am sorry I will not divulge his name in the public domain because he is an author and it serves no beneficial purpose to tell you he is is and was at that time. However, know this he was indoctrinated into a system that only allowed for one messenger and that was the one that he followed. Archangel Michael came to warn me about him but it was a bit late in the day. Its a very long story, he was not alone in his deeds and there were many witnesses to the events that unfolded.

I defended the young spiritual ones and their divine experiences for as long as I could and then God took me away from their domain because he had work for me to do in the desert of the Middle East.

It was in December 2008 that the Christ came and told me that 1260 days in the desert were now over and he asked me to read Rev 12 and Micah 4. He also said that now we would be moving into a higher gear and within a few days we started the first blog.

This is my testimony in the name of Jesus Christ and Archangel Michael.

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Revelation 12
5 -- She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Her child was caught up to God and his throne.
Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Who is she, and who is her son?

Come one come all...

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The Woman pregnant with the Male Child is sent into the wilderness!



THE TIME OF THE END OF ALL TIME IS HERE NOW! Please wake up.

WITH GOD A DAY IS AS A THOUSAND YEARS AND A THOUSAND YEARS AS A DAY
Before you discount this; remember … the numbers add up as do the locations!
GOD’S WORD, verifies history…and.. so does history verify GOD’S WORD!
Today if you hear His voice, please do not harden your heart.

Here is an amazing fact from God's Word.
Revelation 12:6

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 1260 years. ;note this is England

This is the amount of years the Bride was nourished in England, we know from history that the Bride fled because of great persecution throughout Europe, before She came to the wilderness to be nourished for a time, times and half a time. The wilderness is America
Here is another fact that confirms God’s word is true!
Mohamad rode the horse named Baraq to the furthest mountain in 620 A.D.
I believe God was angered and ordered Satan to be chained for one thousand years at this time, one thousand years later…..the Bride leaves for America! (1620 A.D.)
Revelation 20 Satan is chained for 1000 years
1And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
He had gone to far; claiming God’s Holy Mountain as his!
This event is not groundhogs day, to happen over and over again, Revelation is a tapestry woven by God and understood by ANYONE who asks for the abundance of eye salve God offers freely to His Sons Bride!
Satan is released for a short time!
Revelation 12:6-17

6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Mohamads night flight….620 A.D
Satan chained for 1000 years, plus 620 A.D. equals 1620 A.D….The date the mayflower set sail!



Christianity was introduced to England in 360 A.D ....look at this it is wonderful! Remember the pilgrims on the mayflower, they left England in 1620 and arrived in the wilderness (America) prepared for Her in 1620.

1260 years in England
+ 360 A.D Christianity introduced to England
=1620 A.D The Mayflower sets sail
+ 350 years She is nourished in the wilderness/ America
=1970 this is when the last revival was as you well know....I was saved during this revival

Here we are 40 years later and soon the Holy Spirit will soon fall on all mankind for one final alter call. Joel 2:28 Amen … Joel 1 Is happening in the rest of the world as WE sit as a QUEEN who thinks she will never be destroyed. Prepare for DOUBLE! Isn’t it interesting the nourishment was taken away and Satan set up shop as the president of the U.S.A. and sadly the Christian vote is what pushed him to victory; now Barrack Obama has received the offer Jesus Christ rejected. Our Great GOD will be victorious, soon many of us will not love our lives unto death….. AMEN!

For recap:

Revelation 12:13-17

13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

In America She is nourished for 350 years! Amazing!
Now has come the time for judgement upon the whole world, and the U.S.A will have “DOUBLE” poured out upon her.

God's Word verifies history! They were known as Quakers and Shakers, I would imagine those brothers were filled to over flowing with the Spirit, Amen
I have attached this link to the voyage of the Mayflower, the earth sure did help Her as God says in His Word.

The pilgrims left England, September 6 - 1620

They landed on Plymouth Rock November 11 - 1620 (11-11-1620 A.D.)

You will be fascinated to read how many times they almost sank, storm after storm! Satan tried, but God was faithful to His Word.

[link to www.mayflowerhistory.com]

May our Gracious God And Savior, Jesus Christ The King Of Kings And Lord of Lords, Richly Bless You, Amen.
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Under the feet is an important term in relationship with God and his Holy Spirit.
In Samuel we find this passage.

2 Samuel 22:8-10

"The earth trembled and quaked, the foundations of the heavens shook;
they trembled because he was angry. smoke rose from his nostrils;
consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.

He parted the heavens and came down; dark clouds were under his feet.


1 Kings 5:3
"You know that because of the wars waged against my father David from all sides, he could not build a temple for the Name of the LORD his God until the LORD put his enemies under his feet.

Psalm 8:6
You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet:

Malachi 4:3
Then you will trample down the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I do these things," says the LORD Almighty.


Matthew 22:44
" 'The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." '

He parted the heavens in November 2003 and the planets formed the sign of the son of man in the heavens. Spiritual people celebrated globally. it was the sign that jesus Christ told his followers to look for.



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Why do you keep saying this, you can't follow personal opinion, see how it causes error.

I keep reiterating it because its what the scriptures say, I won't change the scriptures, I'm not the one thinking to change the feast days and the law.

I don't follow any personnel opinions, I strictly abide by the said scriptures (Book of Revelation), it is you in error contending with a personnel opinion other then the written word.

hf

I appreciate your reply but you can't mix Holy Scripture
with Gnosticism and New Age.

Who is Azazel?

You misinterpret Scripture with your personal opinion.
Don't you see...your denial about Sunday being the Lord's
day is personal opinion. We are no longer in the Old
Covenant, this is the New Covenant. Jesus arose on Sunday,
the Sabbath is now on Sunday. It has been that way for
2000 years.



Not everything, in the Bible, is written in the four Gospels. And in the four Gospels, isn't it Luke, Mary states "all generations shall call me blessed." The reason, she is special, a most wonderful help in redemptive history, giving her "yes", Our Lord's birth and during His life on earth, for 20 centuries since and now. We are in a special time in that history.

Mary being persecuted into the desert by Satan is not something small in nature and inconsequential to the Church, if this is what took place after Jesus rose from the grave and was taken to Heaven, then it would have been documented in the Gospels, in the letters from Paul, in Gnostic scriptures, and last but not least especially in the Gospel of Nicodemus.

Mary isn't the only one to be persecuted. At different times, it's ongoing, the Church has been persecuted since Christianity began. Those verses are about a coming time
of persecution.

The Resurrection of Our Lord is true and so are all the
things written in John's Book of Revelation. Why does
something have to be written in those four books for it
to be true and of importance? You make no sense.

You are giving your personal opinion again, not recognizing the Truth in John's Book of Revelation and looking only at Paul's words in Holy Scripture and another wrong, the writings (they are not Gospels) of man. I am not going to say it again, the Church long ago, determined those writings are not divine.

John didn't write the Book of Revelation or have his visions
contained in that book until after the Resurrection so try
to see this fact.



Mary is helping her Son and all of the Blessed Trinity in this very serious time. Only if you believe, we are going
into the desert again. Just like in the past (Old Testament) and as Revelation states...that you keep inquiring about. (thanks though)

I'm not going into the desert, I won't be left behind.

I don't mean literally the desert and I think you know.
We will be protected at the time when evil is at it's worst.
We can make it through Tribulation, trusting in God's help.


Revelation
Chapter 15

2 -- Then I saw something like a sea of glass mingled with fire. On the sea of glass were standing those who had won the victory over the beast and its image and the number that signified its name. They were holding God's harps,

3 -- and they sang the song of Moses, the servant of GOD, and the song of the Lamb: "Great and wonderful are your works, LORD God almighty. Just and true are your ways, O King of the nations.

4 -- Who will not fear you, LORD, or glorify your name? For you alone are holy. All the nations will come and worship before you, for your righteous acts have been revealed."



On the sea of glass were standing those (Elects) who have exercised the loop hole in the Law that cuts short the time the saints remain on earth whereby they 'Rapture' away from the beast-system and find themselves on the Ark that no-one can sink headed for Paradise Eden, (sea of glass).
[link to eden.7forum.net]

The mingled fire is GOD

Hebrews 12

28 -- Therefore, we who are receiving the unshakable kingdom should have gratitude, with which we should offer worship pleasing to GOD in reverence and awe.

29 -- For our GOD is a consuming fire.



As the elects are separated from the beast-system they are singing how those left behind do not fear the LORD, and neither glorify His great name. Surely the scoffers of the last days.

(2)Peter 3
3 -- Know this first of all, that in the last days scoffers will come (to) scoff, living according to their own desires

4 -- and saying, "Where is the promise of his coming? From the time when our ancestors fell asleep, everything has remained as it was from the beginning of creation."

The book of Revelation, some of it is mysterious don't you think but there is a group, a Remnant, no argument.


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God protects His people. When they come to chip you, persecute you, haul you away for not taking the chip, for being Christian, we are going to be guided to the refuges. God's people, the Remnant. Trust God. The messages say
we must call out in the name of Jesus Christ, ask our guardian
angels to guide us to the refuges, places of holy ground.
we won't be seen or detected by the evil ones.

No-one is getting chipped.

Oh yes they are, have you heard of one of the companies...Digital Angel? It's all set in place.

Martial Law, foreign troups, the mark which is the micor chip.


The image of the beast has been stealthily accepted for decades now, and soon when the beast will be saturated with followers the beginning of the end will take place.

But to reach the understanding of the image we must first understand the number -- 666

----------

SIXTH HEAVEN:
(2)Enoch 19:
1 -- And thence those men took me and bore me up on to the sixth Heaven, and there I saw seven bands of Angels. These are the Archangels who are above angels, measure all life in Heaven and on earth, and write all the souls of men, and all their deeds, and their lives before the LORD'S face; in their midst are six Phoenixes and six Cherubim and six six-winged ones. [6.6.6]

----------

This number is the number of the sixth Heaven.

The mark (image) of the Beast is the part where wisdom is needed. Revelation says the Beast that the inhabitants (me/you -- maybe) will see existed once but now exists no longer. It will come up from the abyss and is headed for destruction. (Revelation 17:8)

What beast was buried in an abyss? Answer: Azazel

GOD had him bonded hand and foot and cast into a dark opening (abyss) in the desert until Judgment day (destruction)--(1Enoch 10-6). The mark is the image of this evilness (teachings of azazel) should you wish to accept it. GOD created mankind that we could have His image (good), but free-will allows us to choose His counter-part (evil), and many have chosen to accept the image of the Beast.

The number (666) is where these Watchers (azazel et al) once stood on the 6th Heaven whereby they saw the daughters of men and how good they were and came down and took to themselves wives, and befouled the earth with their deeds.

-- What are these deeds?

Azazel taught men to make swords, knives, shields, breastplates, the fabrication of mirrors, and the workmanship of bracelets and ornaments, the beautifying of the eyebrows, the use of stones of every valuable and select kind, witchcraft and sorcery so that the world became altered. Impiety increased; fornication multiplied; and they transgressed and corrupted all their ways.

Revelation 18-2 says Babylon the great (USA) has become a haunt for demons and a cage for every unclean spirit, a cage for every unclean bird (fallen angels).

-- How does Azazel manage this?

Well its not Azazel per say, it is his teachings (deeds) of warfare, sorcery, fornication, etc, this is the power of the Beast who will come again, only when he does most people of the World have already taken his image. This image/mark has slowly been accepted for decades leading to a time in the nearby future (2012) where the Beast will hate the Harlot, and when he does he is allowed to wage war against the holy ones and conquer them (Rev 13-7) because many holy people will not exercise the loop-hole in the letter of the Law, and the Beast is in the details.

The image of the beast leads to when Azazel was placed in an abyss thousands of years ago before the Flood by Holy GOD and his mighty Angels found within the pages of that time frame, The Book of Enoch -- The Covenant, your loop-hole.


All of the above is your mix of false writings along
with Holy Scripture. You can't do that. I think I get one
thing from the above, Azazel is your term for Satan?

Our salvation can't be determined by personal opinion which
is private interpretation of Scripture. And besides, another falsehood, there is more to God's revelation than the Bible. Seee...two man-made false teachings which have wrought nothing but confusion and division.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
Under the feet is an important term in relationship with God and his Holy Spirit.
In Samuel we find this passage.

2 Samuel 22:8-10

"The earth trembled and quaked, the foundations of the heavens shook;
they trembled because he was angry. smoke rose from his nostrils;
consuming fire came from his mouth, burning coals blazed out of it.

He parted the heavens and came down; dark clouds were under his feet.


1 Kings 5:3
"You know that because of the wars waged against my father David from all sides, he could not build a temple for the Name of the LORD his God until the LORD put his enemies under his feet.

Psalm 8:6
You made him ruler over the works of your hands; you put everything under his feet:

Malachi 4:3
Then you will trample down the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I do these things," says the LORD Almighty.


Matthew 22:44
" 'The Lord said to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet." '

He parted the heavens in November 2003 and the planets formed the sign of the son of man in the heavens. Spiritual people celebrated globally. it was the sign that jesus Christ told his followers to look for.



Lotus
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You are prideful and spooky. I am not being mean, you
are going to face your denial of Jesus at your particular
judgment, maybe it will be before at the time of the Great Warning, then you have a chance.

Why continue posting total BS day after day. We are in
serious times and you mock God. Why?

I can only figure, it's for attention? Sick. I'll pray
you don't deny God forever.
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The Woman pregnant with the Male Child is sent into the wilderness!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864175

Yes, who is she and who is the child. hf

THE TIME OF THE END OF ALL TIME IS HERE NOW! Please wake up.

WITH GOD A DAY IS AS A THOUSAND YEARS AND A THOUSAND YEARS AS A DAY
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864175

Very true. hf

1000 years (/) 24 hours = 41.666 per hour

2010 (-) 41.666 (=) 1968.334

In the late 60's an attempt was made by the Europeans demanding the U.S. fulfill their promise to pay one ounce of gold for each $35 they delivered to the U.S. Treasury. This resulted in a huge gold drain that brought an end to the gold standard. Nixon closed the gold window and refused to pay out any more gold. Gold could not be dug-out fast enough too keep up with the printing presses "fiat currency" fueling the U.S. Imperial agenda to rule the World.

It all ended 2.666 years later on August 15, 1971, when Nixon closed the gold window and refused to pay out any of our remaining 280 million ounces of gold. By closing the Gold window the USA technically declared bankruptcy, the US Dollar tanked, nobody wanted it, inflation was a disaster, something had to be done, and it was, OPEC.

There is a petrol-currency warfare already in full swing. For who will rule and denominate the World oil-pie? Now again the Europeans are attempting another coup at the American Dollar and global oil empire, only this time the book of Revelation says it will stick.

1971 (+) 41.666 (=) 2012.666 <--BEWARE OF HIS WRATH.
Thread: 1000 years is like 1 day for GOD -- 2 Peter 3:8 -- this equals to 41.666 <<-- BEWARE OF HIS WRATH

Before you discount this; remember … the numbers add up as do the locations!
GOD’S WORD, verifies history…and.. so does history verify GOD’S WORD!
Today if you hear His voice, please do not harden your heart.

Here is an amazing fact from God's Word.
Revelation 12:6

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. 1260 years. ;note this is England
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864175

England?

This is the amount of years the Bride was nourished in England, we know from history that the Bride fled because of great persecution throughout Europe, before She came to the wilderness to be nourished for a time, times and half a time. The wilderness is America
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864175

Dude, put the BONG down. hf

According to the written word (Revelation of Jesus Christ, which GOD gave to him) the woman (england) is in the desert (america) "for a year, two years, and a half-year." -- Rev.12:14

For recap:

Revelation 12:13-17

14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.


In America She is nourished for 350 years! Amazing!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864175

Oh yeah, its amazing alright. Amazing you can use a computer but not a calculator.

14 -- But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle, 11 so that she could fly to her place in the desert, where, far from the serpent, she was taken care of for a year, two years, and a half-year.

1 + 2 + 1/2 = 350 years according to YOU!

Now has come the time for judgement upon the whole world, and the U.S.A will have “DOUBLE” poured out upon her.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 864175

Why would this be? The child of the woman (usa) was caught up to GOD and his throne? And we know the rest of her offspring keep God's commandments and bear witness to Jesus, (Rev.12:17) -- Why would GOD punish her offspring (usa)?

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The 12 stars on her head are about a state of being and they were placed upon her head. Archangel Michael is mentioned in this text because she was known to be working with Archangel Michael at the time. The dragon was a man involved in spirituality. This all happened before Obama came on the scene in chapter 13.

1260 days ended in 2008.

Lotus




Ok, you have my interest.

Explain further.

Who specifically was the man involved in spirituality ?

When in 2008 ?


~





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Dr. Doom,

You are doomed taking anything lotus says seriously,
she is a New Ager, she denies Jesus is God. She thinks
she has been given special charisms, LOL.

She constantly tells everyone, she has the power. LOL.

+ + +


I was just curious about her two statements I put in bold type...and wanted her to be more specific.

Sometimes she will post something interesting but then
she goes off on her new age tangent... and I lose interest.
I wanted to try to pin her down on these two statements...
but so far she's ignoring me.


~
 Quoting: Dr Doom


Dr. Doom,

Thanks for your reply, I just read it. Lotus needs our
prayers. She will never say Jesus is God. Who can figure?

You would think it would come to their minds, New Ager, the very name alone.
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You are
falling
for the wiles
of the Vatican beast who clothes itself as a lamb yet speaks as
a dragon. You cannot deify Mary and this is the very religion that was prevalent in Jesus Day regarding Diana of the Ephesians. Simon Magus was the first Pope and he was a leader in this worship which ties directly to the worship of Nimrod and Semiramis and later Tammuz and Ishtar.

They roll their cakes to the queen of Heaven...
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Oh the super slam heater...
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I appreciate your reply but you can't mix Holy Scripture
with Gnosticism and New Age.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010

<< 2 Timothy 3:16 >>

-- All scripture is given by inspiration of GOD
, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
King James Bible

-- All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
New International Version (©1984)

-- All Scripture is inspired by GOD and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
New Living Translation (©2007)

-- All Scripture is inspired by GOD and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
New American Standard Bible (©1995)

Who is Azazel?

You misinterpret Scripture with your personal opinion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010

Book of Enoch is not my personnel opinion. hf

Don't you see...your denial about Sunday being the Lord's
day is personal opinion. We are no longer in the Old
Covenant, this is the New Covenant. Jesus arose on Sunday,
the Sabbath is now on Sunday. It has been that way for
2000 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010

Who is the Child -- if you cannot remain focused on topic its an admission that you have no idea about this topic.

Mary isn't the only one to be persecuted. At different times, it's ongoing, the Church has been persecuted since Christianity began. Those verses are about a coming time
of persecution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010

According to your previous posts you claimed the woman is Mary, and in Revelation 12 the dragon chases this women into a desert and creating natural disasters (spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current), and you still hold fast that such an event would not be documented in the letters of Paul? Neither in the Gospels of Mark,Luke,John,Peter,Matthew, and neither of Nicodemus?

That's a pretty tall tale, but this is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

The Resurrection of Our Lord is true and so are all the
things written in John's Book of Revelation. Why does
something have to be written in those four books for it
to be true and of importance? You make no sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010

The fact that Satan was cast out of heaven on account of this woman, and the he (satan) felt venomous enough to pursue her into the desert makes perfect sense that if this event were in fact true as your fanatic imaginative mind believes it to be then it would have been documented in the Gospels, and in details.

John didn't write the Book of Revelation or have his visions
contained in that book until after the Resurrection so try
to see this fact.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010

Precisely, the events in Revelation 12 that you attribute the woman to be Mary would have happened already and John would have written about it in his Gospel -- IN DETAILS!

Our salvation can't be determined by personal opinion which
is private interpretation of Scripture. And besides, another falsehood, there is more to God's revelation than the Bible. Seee...two man-made false teachings which have wrought nothing but confusion and division.
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Book of Enoch is the oldest of all dead sea scrolls, those of the Old Testament date from 150 BCE to 70 CE, making it the first Book (alpha) that was once in the bible only later removed by the beast-system. The book of Revelation is the last book (omega) of these end times. If you want to understand the prophetic events unfolding you will need to understand the first book, the Covenant of it all. Book of Enoch

Believe what you want -- for me, I believe in Alpha-Omega!

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You are prideful and spooky. I am not being mean, you are going to face your denial of Jesus at your particular judgment, maybe it will be before at the time of the Great Warning, then you have a chance. Why continue posting total BS day after day. We are in serious times and you mock God. Why? I can only figure, it's for attention? Sick. I'll pray you don't deny God forever.
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Goodness gracious me, how do you reconcile that I deny Jesus when I have given testimony on this thread and others about my experience with him?

Can you own it?

DENIAL
JUDGEMENT
GREAT WARNING
BS
SERIOUS
MOCK GOD
SICK
DON'T DENY


As Jesus Christ said in December 2008 "Time is Nigh" now get to it.

The one known as Jesus is a Son of God.

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I appreciate your reply but you can't mix Holy Scripture
with Gnosticism and New Age.

<< 2 Timothy 3:16 >>

-- All scripture is given by inspiration of GOD
, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
King James Bible

-- All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
New International Version (©1984)

-- All Scripture is inspired by GOD and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
New Living Translation (©2007)

-- All Scripture is inspired by GOD and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
New American Standard Bible (©1995)


Who is Azazel?

You misinterpret Scripture with your personal opinion.

Book of Enoch is not my personnel opinion. hf


Don't you see...your denial about Sunday being the Lord's
day is personal opinion. We are no longer in the Old
Covenant, this is the New Covenant. Jesus arose on Sunday,
the Sabbath is now on Sunday. It has been that way for
2000 years.

Who is the Child -- if you cannot remain focused on topic its an admission that you have no idea about this topic.


Mary isn't the only one to be persecuted. At different times, it's ongoing, the Church has been persecuted since Christianity began. Those verses are about a coming time
of persecution.

According to your previous posts you claimed the woman is Mary, and in Revelation 12 the dragon chases this women into a desert and creating natural disasters (spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current), and you still hold fast that such an event would not be documented in the letters of Paul? Neither in the Gospels of Mark,Luke,John,Peter,Matthew, and neither of Nicodemus?

That's a pretty tall tale, but this is your opinion and you are entitled to it.


The Resurrection of Our Lord is true and so are all the
things written in John's Book of Revelation. Why does
something have to be written in those four books for it
to be true and of importance? You make no sense.

The fact that Satan was cast out of heaven on account of this woman, and the he (satan) felt venomous enough to pursue her into the desert makes perfect sense that if this event were in fact true as your fanatic imaginative mind believes it to be then it would have been documented in the Gospels, and in details.


John didn't write the Book of Revelation or have his visions
contained in that book until after the Resurrection so try
to see this fact.


Precisely, the events in Revelation 12 that you attribute the woman to be Mary would have happened already and John would have written about it in his Gospel -- IN DETAILS!


Our salvation can't be determined by personal opinion which
is private interpretation of Scripture. And besides, another falsehood, there is more to God's revelation than the Bible. Seee...two man-made false teachings which have wrought nothing but confusion and division.

Book of Enoch is the oldest of all dead sea scrolls, those of the Old Testament date from 150 BCE to 70 CE, making it the first Book (alpha) that was once in the bible only later removed by the beast-system. The book of Revelation is the last book (omega) of these end times. If you want to understand the prophetic events unfolding you will need to understand the first book, the Covenant of it all. Book of Enoch

Believe what you want -- for me, I believe in Alpha-Omega!

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The book of Revelation is prophetic, some things haven't
taken place yet, how difficult is that to understand?

You are mixing Holy Scripture with false writings, that
are not from God.

I have shared it three times. Sheeesssss.

Mary is the woman in Revelation 12:1. Can't go on with
you, you will not get it with following false teachings.




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I am back and no body has missed me.


Just kidding.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
You guys can go on and on but the book of revelation was NOT written by John of Patmos, it is NOT a christian document and it WAS written 500 years before christ by Isis the Prophetess and she ain't no new ager.

She was a very famous psychic and her book Revelations of Isis the Prophetess was a best seller for it's time. You can read it in several languages and editions.

She was speaking about the end times - the REAL end times that are still coming. All of the symbology is Egyptian - not that i expect a bunch of closed mind Christies to actually examine something and critically think about it. Like everything else the slaves of Rome were none too smart and none too educated (that is why they became Christians!)

So they just globbed a bunch a diverse ideas together, worked with the Roman spy Paul to create a new age religion for the Roman empire and it was called Christianity.

These uneducated slaves bought the crap, hook line and sinker.

Who is the woman clothed with the sun, the moon under her feet and a crown of 12 stars. She is ISIS you fucking idiots. Go to Egypt, go to the NY met museum - see for yourself.

Christianity for Dummies:

Osiris is God.

ISIS is Mary.

HORUS is Jesus

SET is Satan.

That is how they sold this load of crap to the rest of the world. So fill up these pages with your useless meanderings. But whatever you do - DON'T STUDY HISTORY.
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Dr. Doom,Thanks for your reply, I just read it. Lotus needs our prayers. She will never say Jesus is God. Who can figure? You would think it would come to their minds, New Ager, the very name alone.
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When you have experienced and seen both the face of the Father and the Son you then know the difference between them. However, this is for you to ponder upon.

Matthew 22

The Parable of the Wedding Banquet

1Jesus spoke to them again in parables, saying: 2"The kingdom of heaven is like a king who prepared a wedding banquet for his son. 3He sent his servants to those who had been invited to the banquet to tell them to come, but they refused to come.

4"Then he sent some more servants and said, 'Tell those who have been invited that I have prepared my dinner: My oxen and fattened cattle have been butchered, and everything is ready. Come to the wedding banquet.'

5"But they paid no attention and went off—one to his field, another to his business. 6The rest seized his servants, mistreated them and killed them. 7The king was enraged. He sent his army and destroyed those murderers and burned their city.

8"Then he said to his servants, 'The wedding banquet is ready, but those I invited did not deserve to come. 9Go to the street corners and invite to the banquet anyone you find.' 10So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find, both good and bad, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.

11"But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes. 12'Friend,' he asked, 'how did you get in here without wedding clothes?' The man was speechless.

13"Then the king told the attendants, 'Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.'

14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."

Lotus

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i love satan
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
You are prideful and spooky. I am not being mean, you are going to face your denial of Jesus at your particular judgment, maybe it will be before at the time of the Great Warning, then you have a chance. Why continue posting total BS day after day. We are in serious times and you mock God. Why? I can only figure, it's for attention? Sick. I'll pray you don't deny God forever.


Goodness gracious me, how do you reconcile that I deny Jesus when I have given testimony on this thread and others about my experience with him?

Can you own it?

DENIAL
JUDGEMENT
GREAT WARNING
BS
SERIOUS
MOCK GOD
SICK
DON'T DENY


As Jesus Christ said in December 2008 "Time is Nigh" now get to it.

The one known as Jesus is a Son of God.

Lotus
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SAY IT THEN FOR THE FORUM TO READ. YOU HAVE REMAINED
SILENT WHEN ASKED MANY TIMES SO YOU CONVICT YOURSELF LOTUS.

REPLY, YES OR NO.


IS JESUS CHRIST GOD, SON OF THE FATHER, THIRD PERSON OF THE BLESSED TRINITY, FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN, YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR?
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
The church is represented in this vision.

(1.) As a woman, the weaker part of the world, but the spouse of Christ, and the mother of the saints.

(2.) As clothed with the sun, the imputed righteousness of the Lord Jesus Christ. Having put on Christ, who is the Sun of righteousness, she, by her relation to Christ, is invested with honourable rights and privileges, and shines in his rays.

(3.) As having the moon under her feet (that is, the world); she stands upon it, but lives above it; her heart and hope are not set upon sublunary things, but on the things that are in heaven, where her head is.

(4.) As having on her head a crown of twelve stars, that is, the doctrine of the gospel preached by the twelve apostles, which is a crown of glory to all true believers.

(5.) As in travail, crying out, and pained to be delivered. She was pregnant, and now in pain to bring forth a holy progeny to Christ, desirous that what was begun in the conviction of sinners might end in their conversion, that when the children were brought to the birth there might be strength to bring forth, and that she might see of the travail of her soul.
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+1
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
none of you know, but you soon will.
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Re: "A woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars." -- Who is she, and who is her son?
The book of Revelation is prophetic, some things haven't
taken place yet, how difficult is that to understand?
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The Book of Revelation is the last book (omega) of these end times. If you want to understand the prophetic events unfolding you will need to understand the first book (alpha), the Covenant of it all. Book of Enoch is the oldest of all dead sea scrolls, those of the Old Testament date from 150 BCE to 70 CE, making the BoE the first Book (alpha) that was once in the Bible only later removed by the beast-system.

Believe what you want -- for me, I believe in Alpha-Omega!

bump bump

You are mixing Holy Scripture with false writings, that
are not from God.
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I have done no such thing on this subject.


I have kept and will keep reiterating Holy scriptures. Hope you may see the light soon.

<< 2 Timothy 3:16 >>

-- All scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
King James Bible

-- All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
New International Version (©1984)

-- All Scripture is inspired by GOD and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right.
New Living Translation (©2007)

-- All Scripture is inspired by GOD and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
New American Standard Bible (©1995)

I have shared it three times. Sheeesssss.

Mary is the woman in Revelation 12:1. Can't go on with
you, you will not get it with following false teachings.

blessings,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 825010

The fact that Satan was cast out of heaven on account of this woman, and the he (satan) felt venomous enough to pursue her into the desert begs that this event be detailed by the Apostles.

According to your post you claim the woman is Mary, and in Revelation 12 the dragon chases this women into a desert creating natural disasters (spewed a torrent of water out of his mouth after the woman to sweep her away with the current), and you still hold fast that such an event would not be documented in the letters of Paul? Neither in the Gospels of Mark,Luke,John,Peter,Matthew, and neither of Nicodemus?

Mary being persecuted into the desert by Satan is not something small in nature or inconsequential to the Church, if this is what took place after Jesus rose from the grave and was taken to Heaven, then it would have been documented in the Gospels, in the letters from Paul, in Gnostic scriptures, and last but not least especially in the Gospel of Nicodemus.

Makes perfect sense that if this event were in fact true as your fanatic imaginative mind believes it to be then it would have been documented in the Gospels, and in details.

That's a pretty tall tale, but this is your opinion and you are entitled to it.

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none of you know, but you soon will.
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How did you know I was working on the thread? hf





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