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Obama staffer wants ‘cognitive infiltration’ of 9/11 conspiracy groups

In a 2008 academic paper, President Barack Obama's appointee to head the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs advocated "cognitive infiltration" of groups that advocate "conspiracy theories" like the ones surrounding 9/11.

Cass Sunstein, a Harvard law professor, co-wrote an academic article entitled "Conspiracy Theories: Causes and Cures," in which he argued that the government should stealthily infiltrate groups that pose alternative theories on historical events via "chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine" those groups.

As head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs, Sunstein is in charge of "overseeing policies relating to privacy, information quality, and statistical programs," according to the White House Web site.

Sunstein's article, published in the Journal of Political Philosphy in 2008 and recently uncovered by blogger Marc Estrin, states that "our primary claim is that conspiracy theories typically stem not from irrationality or mental illness of any kind but from a 'crippled epistemology,' in the form of a sharply limited number of (relevant) informational sources."

By "crippled epistemology" Sunstein means that people who believe in conspiracy theories have a limited number of sources of information that they trust. Therefore, Sunstein argued in the article, it would not work to simply refute the conspiracy theories in public -- the very sources that conspiracy theorists believe would have to be infiltrated.

Sunstein, whose article focuses largely on the 9/11 conspiracy theories, suggests that the government "enlist nongovernmental officials in the effort to rebut the theories. It might ensure that credible independent experts offer the rebuttal, rather than government officials themselves. There is a tradeoff between credibility and control, however. The price of credibility is that government cannot be seen to control the independent experts."

Sunstein argued that "government might undertake (legal) tactics for breaking up the tight cognitive clusters of extremist theories." He suggested that "government agents (and their allies) might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action."

"We expect such tactics from undercover cops, or FBI," Estrin writes at the Rag Blog, expressing surprise that "a high-level presidential advisor" would support such a strategy.

Estrin notes that Sunstein advocates in his article for the infiltration of "extremist" groups so that it undermines the groups' confidence to the extent that "new recruits will be suspect and participants in the group’s virtual networks will doubt each other’s bona fides."

Sunstein has been the target of numerous "conspiracy theories" himself, mostly from the right wing political echo chamber, with conservative talking heads claiming he favors enacting "a second Bill of Rights" that would do away with the Second Amendment. Sunstein's recent book, On Rumors: How Falsehoods Spread, Why We Believe Them, What Can Be Done, was criticized by some on the right as "a blueprint for online censorship."
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Re: kiss your ass goodbye, GLP...
If they are telling us now, they have been doing it for at least 10 years.
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Re: kiss your ass goodbye, GLP...
Is this after Obama and Ram Emmanuel are indicted for killing that real estate agent in Chicago?
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So what? We are a right-wing extremist website now?

Ok... I see no one in the admin has been to this "Virtual Network".
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Re: kiss your ass goodbye, GLP...
ASK Duncan.
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I suspect EAT
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I suspect EAT
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Obama staffer wants ‘cognitive infiltration’ of 9/11 conspiracy groups

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Meaning read and post on GLP !!

They don't want to Klll sites llKe GLP !!

They want GLP to help them !!
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Seriously, have you ever tried to actually kiss your ass goodbye?? Unless you're some kinda contortionist..
XXP .

Get to the point, then shut up..
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they been trying this shit for years.

but fuck it the day they start banning internet sites is the day the revolution begins.
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If I never believed a conspiracy theory before reading something like this, I would know them to be fact after.
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If they are telling us now, they have been doing it for at least 10 years.
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4 sure
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U kiddin me, I thought everyone knew the definition of a SHILL
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"crippled epistemology" LOL! Its more like, "boo hoo for us, the people are smarter than we thought".

Remember, bad guys never like a tattle tale.
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U kiddin me, I thought everyone knew the definition of a SHILL
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No...explain
XXP .

Get to the point, then shut up..
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they are just now telling people this...




WE GLPER"S MUST BE MORE EXTREME THAN ANY EXTREMIST THAT EVER LIVED THE MOST EXTREME LIFE....


OUR CODE OF CONDUCT MUST BE DESTROYED.... NO LONGER ARE WE ALLOWED TO SEARCH FOR PROOF'S AND REFERENCES..... NO LONGER WILL WE BE TRUTH SEEKERS....



rofl what i just said should be emailed to the white house as our token of submission.
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well I haven't seen very many intelligent posters hear ..... so I cal BULLSHIT

bsflag
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If they are telling us now, they have been doing it for at least 10 years.
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Seriously, have you ever tried to actually kiss your ass goodbye?? Unless you're some kinda contortionist..
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Yoga baby...
Start doing Yoga...
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Re: kiss your ass goodbye, GLP...
well I haven't seen very many intelligent posters hear ..... so I cal BULLSHIT

bsflag
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well fuck there I go and misspell "here" LOL
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how about that bitch Cass Sunstein is an irrelevant fucking piece of shit to be mowed down with a blow to the head with a large crescent wrench?

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What are they going to do about Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones?
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Seriously, have you ever tried to actually kiss your ass goodbye?? Unless you're some kinda contortionist..

Yoga baby...
Start doing Yoga...
You will be ready just in time for the arrest.
 Quoting: ExhaleAeonVolts

Think I'm too old...sigh
XXP .

Get to the point, then shut up..
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Better learn the sweet smell of cointelpro real quick people. poop
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What are they going to do about Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones?
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nothing really history has shown that shill infiltrations never break the truth.

but if they try to kill them, then the cat is out of the bag.
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no, pretty much all, nay, all admins, mods, 'avatard' members etc on glp are against the 911 conspiracy. they repeat the version of the government like they are bots.

so glp is safe, because this place does exactly what the government wants in many ways.

not that it matters who did 911. bin laden, saddam, bush/cheney, martians...its all done.
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Oh so you mean shills and straw man arguments to debunk things like chemtrails and 911 govt responsibility, the FED, etc.... Planet X

Heck they already do that. I don't even see Nancy around anymore LOL.
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U kiddin me, I thought everyone knew the definition of a SHILL

No...explain
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A shill is person who is paid to help another person or organization to sell goods or services. The shill pretends to have no association with the seller/group and gives onlookers the impression that he or she is an enthusiastic customer. The person or group that hires the shill is using crowd psychology, to encourage other onlookers or audience members (who are unaware of the set-up) to purchase said goods or services. Shills are often employed by confidence artists. The term plant is also used. The term is also used to describe a person who is paid to help a political party or other advocacy organization to gain adherents; as with the situation of selling goods or services, the shill gives the impression of being unrelated to the group in question, and gives the impression that he or she finds merit in the ideological claims of the political party.

Shilling is illegal in many circumstances and in many jurisdictions[1] because of the frequently fraudulent and damaging character of their actions. However, if a shill does not place uninformed parties at a risk of loss, but merely generates "buzz", the shill's actions may be legal. For example, a person planted in an audience to laugh and applaud when desired (see claque), or to participate in on-stage activities as a "random member of the audience", is a type of legal shill.

"Shill" can also be used pejoratively to describe a critic who appears either all-too-eager to heap glowing praise upon mediocre offerings, or who acts as an apologist for glaring flaws. In this sense, they would be an implicit "shill" for the industry at large, possibly because their income is tied to its prosperity.
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Seriously, have you ever tried to actually kiss your ass goodbye?? Unless you're some kinda contortionist..
 Quoting: XPMarksthe

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Oh so you mean shills and straw man arguments to debunk things like chemtrails and 911 govt responsibility, the FED, etc.... Planet X

Heck they already do that. I don't even see Nancy around anymore LOL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 730810

WRONG !!

They want to proove govt responsibility so they can bring it down !!
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Wake Up America. The Point of no return draws near





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