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Haiti really did make a pact w/the Devil

 
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PAT "satan" ROBERTSON SHILL!

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Of course, it's just coincidental that a major fault line runs right through the country, right? I mean that "made a pact with the Devil" thing sells more papers and all, but..
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Haiti earthquake: history of natural disasters to hit the country Haiti has been struck by a 7.0 magnitude earthquake, killing an unknown number of people. The small, impoverished country is prone to severe and deadly natural disasters, especially hurricanes.

Severe deforestation, leading to flooding and landslides, and a lack of proper emergency services and infrastructure has resulted in the storms causing the deaths of thousands of Haitians.


2008 Four separate hurricanes - Fay, Gustav, Hanna, and Ike - in the space of 30 days led to the deaths of more than 800 people. About 60 per cent of the country's harvest was destroyed and entire cities were rendered desolate and uninhabitable.

Tropical Storm Jeanne deluged the tiny Caribbean country. Resulting flooding and landslides killed up to 2,500 people and displacing thousands more.

1998 Hurricane George killed more than 400 people while destroying 80 per cent of all the crops in the country.

1994 Hurricane Gordon killed over 1000 Haitians.

1963 Hurricane Flora killed over 8000 people, making it the 6th most deadly hurricane ever.

1954 Hurricane Hazel killed more than 100 people and destroyed several towns. The storm also wiped out 40 per cent of the coffee trees and 50 per cent of the cacao crop.

1946
The largest recorded earthquake in modern times on the island of Hispaniola was an 8.1-magnitude temblor that produced a tsunami and killed 1,790 people. Centered in the Dominican Republic, it extended into Haiti.


1935 An unnamed storm killed more than 2000 people.
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Are they all pretty good guitar players?

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Are they all pretty good guitar players?

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Of course. Any requests?
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Stolen from another thread "Why is Dominican Republic a paradise...."

Haiti: Victim of Clinton's Old Black Magic By: Lowell Ponte
FrontPageMagazine.com | Friday, February 20, 2004


ONCE AGAIN HAITIAN PRESIDENT JOHN-BERTRAND ARISTIDE
may be ousted by his citizens, who began a new rebellion against his tyrannical rule on February 5.

After Aristide was removed by a military coup in 1991, President Bill Clinton in 1994 sent 20,000 U.S. troops to Haiti to restore to power this former Roman Catholic Priest and advocate for Leftist Liberation Theology who once called Cuban Marxist dictator Fidel Castro his “greatest personal hero.”

“There is frankly no enthusiasm” for sending armed U.S. troops to secure Aristide’s presidency again, said Secretary of State Colin Powell on Tuesday. As of Thursday, the United States had announced plans to send only a handful of troops to secure our Embassy there. The French Government offered tentative assistance from 4,000 troops on nearby Caribbean islands that it said were trained as humanitarian peacekeepers.

But forces may be in play that are both deeper and darker than what the international press is reporting. We might be witnessing a struggle of “principalities and powers.”

These sinister forces trace their roots to Haiti’s origin as an independent nation. And those roots may have entangled Bill Clinton and even Democratic Presidential frontrunner Senator John F. Kerry in strange and twisted ways.

In our Postmodern, Deconstructionist world, there is an “alternative reading” or “subtext” to the conventional news coming out of Haiti. So that you, too, can see it, let me tell you a story. We report. You decide.

Columbus in 1492 was the first European to land on the island its native cannibalistic Arawak Indians called “Hayti” (“mountainous land”). He would rename it “Hispaniola” (“Little Spain”).

In 1697 Spain ceded the western portion of the island, the part called Haiti, to France. Spain kept the eastern half, Saint-Domingue, today the Dominican Republic. After the Arawak were exterminated, both Spaniards and French imported African slaves accustomed to tropical heat and sunshine.

By 1780 the French colony of Haiti with its rich crops of cocoa, sugar cane, cotton and coffee, had become one of the wealthiest places on Earth. This wealth derived from the labor of 500,000 slaves exploited and held down by only 26,000 white French plantation settlers and 30,000 affranchis of mixed ancestry. This disparity of power and numbers would soon end in a bloodbath.

Some of these slaves escaped to the mountains and created their own community. One was a legendary figure named Boukman, almost certainly an African, certainly a houngan (“witch doctor”) of enormous size, strength and charisma.

In Haiti’s capital Port-au-Prince today you can see an iron pig statue. It commemorates the ritual of the African religion Americans today call Voodoo conducted by Boukman on August 14, 1791.

A pig on that day was ritually killed. The escaped slaves joined in drinking its still-warm blood as part of a pact. Boukman led his followers in vowing that they and their children would serve the pagan gods of the island, including the devil, for exactly 200 years in exchange for freedom from the French.

Seven days later the slaves of Haiti rose in rebellion, soaking Haiti in the blood of the French overseers and plantation owners who had enslaved them.

On January 1, 1804 – exactly 200 years ago – a beaten France acknowledged the independence of Haiti. This, as you soon shall see, is a key fact in our story.

After the coup deposed him in 1991, exiled John-Bertrand Aristide took up residence in Washington, D.C. Looking for political help to restore his power, he reportedly connected with the inner circle of soon-to-be Democratic Presidential candidate Bill Clinton.

Aristide, according to historian Joel A. Ruth, reportedly supplied Clinton with a Voodoo sorcerer. This sorcerer, according to the Haitian media, gave Clinton magical advice on how to run his campaign. (One piece of advice that Clinton reportedly followed: not to change his underwear during the final week of the 1992 race.)

The sorcerer also reportedly, in exchange for a “large sum of money,” cast a “wanga” (“malediction”) spell on Clinton’s rival, incumbent President George H.W. Bush, by “manipulating a doll made in the president’s image.”

During a March 31, 1995 visit to Haiti under Aristide’s restored rule, Clinton according to the Haiti Observateur newspaper took part in a Voodoo initiation ceremony intended to keep him impervious to Republican attacks and to guarantee his re-election.

One account, notes Ruth, related that Aristide dedicated the ceremonial site prior to Clinton’s arrival with “the blood of a newborn infant in gratitute to the gods whom he believes allowed his return to power.”

Earlier in 1995, the defrocked priest Jean-Bertrand Aristide formally renounced his Roman Catholic faith and publicly announced that he was returning to the Voodoo faith of his ancestors.

In July 1995 Aristide held a Voodoo Congress at Haiti’s National Palace. The 300 attendees included sorcerers and “bocors” (those who practice black magic), wrote Ruth, “including leaders of the dreaded ‘Bizango Cult,’ which practices zombification and human sacrifice.”

[Scientists have documented the use of poison from the Caribbean puffer fish by Haitian witch doctors as a way to simulate death and then, in smaller doses, to turn victims dug up from their graves into the “living dead,” called zombies in Haiti’s Voodoo tradition.]

Voodoo, Aristide said in his speech to congress attendees, is one of the “great religions of the world alongside Christianity, Islam and Judaism.” He announced the funding of a national Voodoo temple, doubtless to be built with U.S. taxpayer aid dollars via the Clinton Administration.

One of Aristide’s later objectives would be the shipping of Haitians to the United States, especially to Florida shores 600 miles away where they could embarrass the state’s Republicans. Senator John F. Kerry (D.-Mass.) might have shared Aristide’s motives when, in 1998, he co-sponsored a bill that resulted in amnesty for an estimated 125,000 Haitians who had been given “temporary asylum” before 1996 because they were fleeing the chaos, terror and poverty caused largely by Aristide.

In the United States, meanwhile, President Bill Clinton ordered the U.S. military to begin including witchcraft pagan chaplains to minister to the religious needs of our troops. Hillary Clinton, as observed by FBI agents, decorated her upstairs Christmas tree one year with sex and drug paraphernalia. She pressed the Postal Service to discontinue issuing Madonna and Child stamps around Christmastime.

Hillary Clinton also lobbied the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to create a new crime comparable to sexual harassment in the workplace. This new crime, “religious harassment,” could be committed by something as simple as a company manager wearing a cross or yarmulke or having a Bible on his or her desk and could be punished by heavy government fines.

Back in Haiti, Aristide was required by the nation’s Constitution to rule via a hand-picked puppet for a few years. But by 2000 he was reclaiming his power as President and in the legislature in an election so phony and rigged that it was denounced as “flawed” and a fraud by nearly every international observer. In its wake, $500 million in international aid to Haiti was suspended.

Aristide’s response to critics of his high-handed behavior has long been violence and terror. He has had followers lay their machetes on his altar and then name their enemies.

Aristide has also endorsed “necklacing” of the kind widely practiced in South Africa by Winnie Mandela. It consists of seizing a victim, forcing an automobile tire filled with gasoline down over their head and shoulders, and then setting the tire and gasoline on fire.

“What a beautiful tool!… It smells good. And wherever you go, you want to smell it,” Aristide said of the necklacing of his critics on September 27, 1991, as witnessed and reported by Associated Press.

Note the above date. Despite knowing of Aristide’s penchant for necklacing critics, and despite knowing that a CIA psychological profile had identified Aristide as “a psychopath,” President Bill Clinton three years later put at risk 20,000 of America’s most elite troops to remove a pro-American Haitian government in order to re-install this murdering psychopath Jean-Bertrand Aristide as President of Haiti.

“He is compared now with Francois ‘Papa Doc’ Duvalier, who set up his Tontons-Macoute gestapo-like police to harass, jail and kill his opponents,” wrote Raymond Joseph, an editor of Haiti Observateur. “Mr. Aristide’s goons are called chimeres (chimeras) and have turned Haiti into a killing field.”

“Aristide, who claims to be a prophet, a messiah, reportedly was bathed in November [2000] in the blood of a dead Haitian by voodoo priestess Marie-Anne Auguste, commonly known as So An,” wrote Yves A. Isidor, who teaches at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth.

“The purpose of [this blood] bathing…said a senior member of Aristide’s Lavalas Family Party,” wrote Isidor, “…was in an effort to put a curse on then-U.S. Rep[ublican] presidential candidate George W. Bush…. His Dem[ocratic] rival, U.S. Vice President Albert Gore would, hopefully, emerge as the winner of the November election.” But Aristide’s voodoo magic could not make a winner of Zombie-like Gore as it helped do for Clinton.

In Haiti this megalomaniac President Aristide has failed by every measure. He has not improved the national standard of living. He has not united the nation. And instead of entrenching democracy, he has destroyed it.

Aristide’s gangs of followers have killed journalists critical of his regime and gone unpunished. Five Christian missionaries have been murdered, apparently by voodoo adherents. In recent weeks he and his thugs have stopped political opponents from holding public marches or demonstrations against him. No wonder that on February 5 groups of Haitians have risen in revolt to remove Aristide, again, from power.

But in what seems to be the never-ending tragedy of Haiti, many of the groups now bent on overthrowing Aristide are as evil-minded and bloody-handed as he is. It is as if the minions of hell, the demons, have been unleashed and the politics of the whole nation are demoncratic.

“In late April,” wrote the journal Christianity Today in October 2003, “President Jean-Bertrand Aristide, a former Catholic priest, declared voodoo an officially recognized religion. It’s a move that some Christians in the chronically poor nation of 7.5 million say is an ominous sign.”

“The government said they are going to turn the country entirely to voodoo,” it quoted Jean Berthony Paul, founder of the Mission Evangelique du Nord D’Haiti.

[As one commentator puts it, “Haiti is reckoned as being 95% Christian (predominantly Catholic), but according to Catholic missionary John Hoet, Haitians ‘are 100% voodoo.’” Most are nominally Roman Catholic Christians, but most also practice some aspects of Voodoo and incorporate Christian saints into their pagan pantheon of African gods. Haiti ended its official recognition of Roman Catholicism as its state church in 1987.]

Christians in Haiti held their breath on New Year’s Day 2004. That day marked the end of Boukman’s 200-year “Deal with the Devil,” the day his Voodoo gods were said to have kept their end of his Free-us-from-the-French bargain and started the 200-year clock running.

Months earlier President Aristide had gathered 400 voodoo priests, many of them imported from Africa apparently at taxpayer expense, for a ceremony.

That gathering in August 2003, many Christians feared, was to ritually renew and extend the Voodoo contract with the island’s demons. Some Christian evangelicals credit their concerted prayers with causing the August gathering to disintegrate into arguing and confusion before any blood ritual could be performed. Those praying Christians believe they saved Haiti’s soul.

But did Aristide ritually renew Haiti’s voodoo pact with the devil four months later on New Year’s Day? This reporter found no news stories that he did. But such a ceremony, like that reported during Bill Clinton’s visit to Haiti, could have been conducted in secret or deceptive ways.

And this may have happened because Bill Clinton, without consulting Congress or the United Nations, felt a compulsion to invade and overthrow the government of Haiti in order to restore Jean-Bertrand Aristide to power as the voodoo king of a voodoo island. Believe it or not. But look at the evidence and hyperlinks herein before you disbelieve. What you learn might help save America’s soul…and your own.
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Here is where all the BS hits the fan. They keep saying and I quote: " the pact was made for 200 years Haiti would belong to Satan". Well that so called pact was made in 1804. The earthquake just happened in 2010. Isn't that like 5 years to late. Wow. One of the main rules of the Bible tells you to beware of false prophets, especially those who make a living off of taking your hard earned money. Wake up. Mr. Robinson was born a Southern Baptist. That would put him in the same boat with the KKK, which derived all of their beliefs from being Southern Baptist. How could one God tell you to treat a certain class of people bad, while also telling you to be Christ like.... Go figure.
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BENIN: Voodoo rituals to calm the spirits in Haiti



The devastation of the earthquake in Haiti has left no one indifferent, least of all the people of Benin, an African nation with strong ties to the first black republic of the world.

By Razzack Saïzonou

"We are deeply affected and feel solidarity with our Haitian brothers,'' said an emotional Queen Djehami following Tuesday’s earthquake in Haiti. Djehami is the wife of Kpodégbé Toyi Djigla, King of Allada, a town in central Benin and one of the largest kingdoms of the country.

"We are deeply affected, primarily because I am African, but mainly because I am from Allada. There is a sense of desolation at the palace."

During the 16th and 17th centuries, Benin played a key role in the slave trade. Thousands of men and women were uprooted and sold as slaves to work in plantations in Europe, the Caribbean and America. Many of them came from Allada, as did the family of Toussaint L'ouverture, who later founded the Republic of Haiti.
Toussaint Louverture
Toussaint Louverture

Slave
Toussaint L’ouverture (1743-1803), nicknamed the Black Napoleon, was born on a plantation in the French colony of Saint Domingue. He was named Breda after the plantation as was the custom for slaves.

His master, the relatively humane Mr Baillon de Libertat, encouraged Toussaint to learn to read and write, and appointed him as his coachman and then as his foreman. Later Toussaint led a revolution against slavery and Haiti became the first republic to be ruled by leaders with African ancestry.

Voodoo
Apart from the historical ties between Haiti and Benin, the two countries share the religion of their ancestors: voodoo. This religion is central to the worship and traditions of thousands of Haitians and Beninese.

Queen Djehami believes that this week’s earthquake has happened because Haiti’s ancestors failed to carry out sacrifices.

She explains that during his trip to Haiti six years ago, King Kpodégbé had warned the then President of Haiti of the need to organise sacrifices to appease angry spirits and ward off evil ones. His trip was part of bicentenary celebrations marking the death of Toussaint L’ouverture.

Although the Haitian authorities probably didn’t ignore the king’s warning, they did put off organising the rituals. "Haiti is profoundly African and these things should not be underestimated," exclaims Queen Djehami.

"His Majesty the King asked for a number of things to be done when we were there, but his wishes were not met. Was it negligence, was it that nobody believed in it?”

Solidarity
In an outburst of solidarity with the victims of the earthquake, the people of Benin and particularly those of Allada have organised traditional ceremonies to appease the spirits and seek the blessing of their ancestors for the Haitians.

"A purification ceremony is planned for Haiti and a trip to the devastated island is even possible. We will continue to pray that it never happens again," says the Queen of Allada.
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pact w/the Devil, the number 13 is bad, throw salt over your shoulder, knock on wood, Black cat cross your path.....
Amazing what people believe when they cant get there heads around it. People are dying there right now! DONATE!! Its what you can do to HELP!
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Dear Anti-Hatemonger: I see you are an expert Wikipedia cut-and-paster.
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Not defending Robertson's statement but only to show that he did not just spout off without a basis. Wrong. Maybe.
Other older links re: Haiti pact with the devil.

[link to www.jesus.org.uk]

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

[link to www.nolink4_you.com]

[link to www.assatashakur.org]


First, you must PROVE there is a "devil." Second, you must PROVE there is a "god." The fact of the matter is, no one can PROVE anything. Like I've said many times before, the "devil" is a figment of your imagination as is "god."
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More uneducated ethnocentric racist religitard drivvel... GLP effect at work.


"The Devil made god do it!"...LOL
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Save us all.

"The Haiti people" is not "a corrupt leader or leaders in Haiti".

There are Christian Churches and good people there. Many are trapped and can't go anywhere. Go to tube, watch the vids. Learn. Stop 'imagining' out loud.
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Not defending Robertson's statement but only to show that he did not just spout off without a basis. Wrong. Maybe.
Other older links re: Haiti pact with the devil.

[link to www.jesus.org.uk]

[link to www.freerepublic.com]

[link to www.nolink4_you.com]

[link to www.assatashakur.org]


First, you must PROVE there is a "devil." Second, you must PROVE there is a "god." The fact of the matter is, no one can PROVE anything. Like I've said many times before, the "devil" is a figment of your imagination as is "god."
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Perhaps it was not a test for them. Perhaps it was a test for us. How will we respond and help these poor people?
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unHoly Crapola.....all of it...can't believe I spent two hours of my morning checking all your facts and sources for proof...I guess every man thinks his geese swans 'Charlie Dickens' Im outta here abductBeam me up Scotty 'Billy Shatner'....Bye
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you betch'ya. Cut and Paste is my specialty. I'm also good at a couple other things...regardless get your facts straight. What a waste this thread is.

total waste
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You better believe and God and everyone better get there every day things straight because God is coming soon.
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Every government is set up by the devil.
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YOU GOT A POINT THERE
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I do not think anyone deserves what happened there. But I would like to point out something. Historically over 200 years ago there actually was a ritual just as described.

Every year on that anniversary date another ritual is said to be done.

It was partially the Catholics fault. Over 200 years ago the Church taught that people with black skin had no soul, or in fact did belong to the devil. So naturally many felt that rejection and left the faith.

Do not bother flaming me either. Most religions justified their cruel treatment by teaching something similar. The non catholic colonists here in America had no problem killing Indians, because they found no American Indians in the bible and taught the red skins belonged to the devil.

In the deep south I have heard very elderly people tell me the same thing, when they were kids they heard preachers telling others that blacks had no souls. Even Mormons taught something similar until the middle of the 20th century.

So if someone told the Haitians that they belonged to Satan, and God rejected them, can you blame them for the rituals? It was a mess.

And there are different forms of voodoo, not all are light level. Just as there are various forms of magick that people view as Santeria, but the darker one is actually called palo mayombe. Anyone remember Mark Kilroy, the missing medical student from Texas? The priest there was Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo(El Padrino), when he was found he had Kilroy's spinal cord. He liked to wear them wrapped around his neck. It is not all "light level". FYI, people like that in Mexico are the ones paid by the drug Lords. Many believe that type of magick will keep them protected from the law. I was remembering the post here about the guys face recently found sewed to a soccer ball. It did not surprise me at all.
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Government Of The Devil, By The Devil, And For The Devil
By Tom Barrett (03/11/04)

"Haiti is the only country in the entire world that has dedicated its government to Satan. Demonic spirits have been consulted for political decisions, and have shaped the country's history." Thus speaks Reverend Doug Anderson, who grew up in Haiti with missionary parents, and served there along with his wife Dawn as a missionary until 1990. The leaders of Haiti make no attempt to hide their allegiance to Satan. Haiti’s government is a government of the devil, by the devil, and for the devil.

It is a matter of well-documented historical fact that the nation of Haiti was dedicated to Satan 200 years ago. On August 14, 1791, a group of houngans (voodoo priests), led by a former slave houngan named Boukman, made a pact with the Devil at a place called Bois-Caiman. All present vowed to exterminate all of the white Frenchmen on the island. They sacrificed a black pig in a voodoo ritual at which hundreds of slaves drank the pig’s blood. In this ritual, Boukman asked Satan for his help in liberating Haiti from the French. In exchange, the voodoo priests offered to give the country to Satan for 200 years and swore to serve him. On January 1, 1804, the nation of Haiti was born and thus began a new demonic tyranny.

At the time of the pact Haiti was France's richest colony, and was known as the “Pearl of the Antilles” for its singular beauty. But it soon became one of the world's poorest and most benighted nations. Scoffers may say that there is no connection between the fact that Haiti was the richest nation in the hemisphere, and then became the poorest after selling its national soul to Satan. But the scoffers can’t come up with a better explanation.

Voodoo is a practice based on a mixture of African spiritism and witchcraft. Depending on the source of one’s research, between 75 and 90 percent of Haitians practice voodoo. This seems to fly in the face of the fact that the country is predominantly Catholic. But, like their African ancestors, voodoo practitioners have no problem embracing multiple religions. In fact, most who practice voodoo believe they must be Catholic first.

Until recently, voodoo was practiced in secret. Practitioners would go to the Catholic Church on Sunday, and attend voodoo ceremonies deep in the woods at other times. Voodoo was forbidden during the colonial times, and the 32 Haitian governments that followed independence also suppressed the practice because of world condemnation. But on April 8, 2003, President Jean-Bertrand Aristide approved Voodoo as an officially recognized religion in Haiti (see links below). Voodoo priests can now perform marriages and other ceremonies previously reserved for Christian religions. "An ancestral religion, Voodoo is an essential part of national identity," Aristide said in the decree recognizing Voodoo.
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I believe it.
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Voodoo, catholic church, same deal.
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Voodoo, catholic church, same deal.
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Catholicism seems to foster voodoo. Replace a patron god with a saint. No problemo.
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you must be one of them!!! rockonstfu
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Someone said mormons thought black people didnt have souls up until the mid 20th century but that's incorrect too. They believe that their church is a church set up exactly as jesus christ set it up with priesthood (authority given from god basically) restored to the earth giving them rights to act in gods name. As such the authority couldn't really be taken from god and they teach it had to be given. Black people did not descend from the original twelve tribes of israel and had no covenants with god to hold priesthood. They teach a modern day prophet asked god about it and god gave authority for all men living worthy to his commandments could exercise priesthood authority. It wasn't racist at all they just truly believe they are the restored church and it was indecision on what to do based upon the law of priesthood. And I'm sure haiti didn't willingly pledge allegiance to satan either. If god and satan are real I would have a hard time believing voodoo would come from god and probably would in that scenario be a byproduct of satan but. That's based on christian concepts. they wouldn't know that. They do what they believe is true just like you do. Maybe everyone is wrong maybe nothing is true other than science. Maybe not. Just stick to your beliefs and be aware of other peoples sacred beliefs and don't just spout out crap that's unfounded or your opinion unless its respectful. And definately don't accept heresay from people not from that denomination as fact. Because its usually wrong and been through the grapevine and twisted.
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The Lord, our God visits the iniquities of his children in the third and fourth generation.
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I am called Olive MG a foreign resident in Haiti, living in a small town called Verrette. It’s about a year since I moved here with my husband and 2 kids. My husband is involved in the co-ordination of water and sanitation projects in the area. I am yet to see the Devil you mention here.

You obviously know the state of Haiti. Here most people survive on less than one dollar a day. We see this everyday and I normally silently ask myself, “what can I do?”.

Well, now I am doing something. The community in Verrette badly need a recreation park/community park. This is one thing we do miss also as a family. There is no place for my kids to play; nowhere to seat, and relax and just enjoy the outside. So I together with I Can Club of Verrette are mobilising support to complete the Verrette Park and open it for use. Please Support this cause.

These people are bored. They need to find outlets for their energy and time. Lets help them through this Park. C`mon, let`s inject some life and fun to this Community. Thks a bunch.


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Re: Haiti really did make a pact w/the Devil
YES THEY DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SAW PERSONALLY THE VOODO MAJICK THEY CURSED ME WITH WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL. I HOPE THEY ALL BURN IN HELL WITH THE DEVIL. THEY DESERVE TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Haiti really did make a pact w/the Devil
Every government is set up by the devil.
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Romans
For he (the government) is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer.

Sorry Magick, you're wrong.
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At the time of the pact Haiti was France's richest colony, and was known as the “Pearl of the Antilles” for its singular beauty. But it soon became one of the world's poorest and most benighted nations. Scoffers may say that there is no connection between the fact that Haiti was the richest nation in the hemisphere, and then became the poorest after selling its national soul to Satan. But the scoffers can’t come up with a better explanation.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 727649


I can: The whites got kicked out and the blacks took over. No need to blame Satan for the tragedy that is Haiti. Blacks ruling over themselves is all that is needed to explain ruinous state of affairs Haiti finds itself in.
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YES THEY DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SAW PERSONALLY THE VOODO MAJICK THEY CURSED ME WITH WHEN I WAS A LITTLE GIRL. I HOPE THEY ALL BURN IN HELL WITH THE DEVIL. THEY DESERVE TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!
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Please, do tell.
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