Women, do you understand how remarkably wounding you can be to a man? Especially Intellectual men?

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this thread certainly devolved

There is a lot of wisdom in the original post. I was with a woman who had her chance with me and she did just those things. She liked to belittle me and tell me to shut up. Didn't take much of that to make me lose interest. It's hard to be with a woman when she's trying to be the boss and making fun of you. Just doesn't work.

A good woman ALWAYS builds her man up and makes him feel like he is the best man in the world and no one can match him. That gives him the self confidence to get ahead in life.

When a woman won't do that, she is destined to be a poor and be stuck with losers. Because no matter what she starts with, that's how they end up.

Fuck women, usless degraded gslutty pieces of shit that they have become. Look how far you have fallen.

This post puts together a lot of my own thoughts on the matter. I've pretty much given up as well. The good ones are taken and the rest..well, it's hard to tell them all that in a club or bar isn't it? In other words, I've identified several problems with modern American women and while I agree with the theories and know the many of the causes, as well as the fact that this was all done by design. Even the few girls I know that KNOW about the destruction of the family, the evils and traps of feminism, etc. STILL are callous and "independent". Anyone else notice how women are becoming more and more like what they think "men" are? Almost like they are becoming the stereotype of the men they claim are pigs? The sarcasm, callousness, independence(not in the good way, but like OP said, the "I don't need no man" way) the hard core partying, the promiscuity, etc. Meanwhile, men have been emasculated by political correctness, the media, and modern women.(again the ones that aren't taken..not ALL women are like this)

The OP doesn't exactly sound like a party.

US statistics.
97% of men who marry either cannot or will not be the sole support for their households.

Wages for women are still at an overall 38% of what men make, which includes ALL jobs that are left in the US.

Men are paid for over 80% of what they do every day as men.
Women are paid for less than 20% of what they do every day as women.

A man who hires a domestic to do what a wife would do,
pays over $40,000 per year for those services. (Not including nanny services to children)

65% of males try to end the pregnancy they have implanted
with an abortion procedure.

In 1850, no man would dare court a woman who did not have a household, on owned real estate, (or ranch) for her to run.

80% of women are taking anti-depressants.

Over 30% of male children are taking ADHD medication.

14% of blacks in America, actually marry, though 100% breed multiple children with multiple women.

18% of dating couples in restaurants are breaking up.

99% of men will cheat on their wives with another women if given the opportunity.

22% of available males are overseas in war.
400,000 US military families were impacted with long term absence from their homes by fathers deployed to Iraq.

US males are supporting a multi-billion dollar porn industry.

When surveyed, by representation, 80% of unmarried males
under the age of 28 hope to marry virgins. This same 80% also chose Lady Gaga as the ultimate hair, face, body type, personality, hoped for in a wife.

Women were enslaved since prehistory. And I have never found a man who was capable of showing support. Everything the OP states or quotes is about what men want and need. A true intellectual would not have children (sentence humans to die).

Women today are not giving us any cues that they want to be asked out.

Women today are not giving us any cues that they want to be asked out.

The days of men asking women out are gone! Women don't even take the time to do little unspoken things, that interest a man. Something basic to our culture is being lost. No wonder so many women are so unhappy..
...the women wonder why men aren't asking them out, they're either not saying yes, or they're not sending the signals

But, perhaps if his ego were fed once in a while he wouldn't be in the state of starvation that so diminishes a man as to prod him into the very ways that women find so intolerable.

It is important to remember that contemporary society is under a profound malaise, with everything good, pure, and holy coming under attack.

I have noticed that most women do not have the foggiest idea how men feel, or what men feel, and most men feel too vulnerable to tell them.

There is much healing needed on both sides.

If men are feeling wounded by the way they have been treated over the past forty years, then it should be easy for them to understand the pain of women who have been mistreated, battered, sexually abused and exploited, underpaid, stupefied, neglected and devalued, for the past four hundred years. I will start caring about the egos of men when men start caring about the spirits of women.

US statistics.
97% of men who marry either cannot or will not be the sole support for their households.

Wages for women are still at an overall 38% of what men make, which includes ALL jobs that are left in the US.

Men are paid for over 80% of what they do every day as men.
Women are paid for less than 20% of what they do every day as women.

A man who hires a domestic to do what a wife would do,
pays over $40,000 per year for those services. (Not including nanny services to children)

65% of males try to end the pregnancy they have implanted
with an abortion procedure.

In 1850, no man would dare court a woman who did not have a household, on owned real estate, (or ranch) for her to run.

80% of women are taking anti-depressants.

Over 30% of male children are taking ADHD medication.

14% of blacks in America, actually marry, though 100% breed multiple children with multiple women.

18% of dating couples in restaurants are breaking up.

99% of men will cheat on their wives with another women if given the opportunity.

22% of available males are overseas in war.
400,000 US military families were impacted with long term absence from their homes by fathers deployed to Iraq.

US males are supporting a multi-billion dollar porn industry.

When surveyed, by representation, 80% of unmarried males
under the age of 28 hope to marry virgins. This same 80% also chose Lady Gaga as the ultimate hair, face, body type, personality, hoped for in a wife.

Women today are not giving us any cues that they want to be asked out, and without some indication or encouragement that he might be well received, a man is not going to risk the rejection—which men are far more sensitive to than women evidently realize.

The days of men asking women out are gone! Women don't even take the time to do little unspoken things, that interest a man. Something basic to our culture is being lost. No wonder so many women are so unhappy.


In fact, many men have come to think women don't even like men, because of the way women react to their initial overtures, yet, the women wonder why men aren't asking them out, they're either not saying yes, or they're not sending the signals

One of the rarest qualities to find in a young woman today—at least towards eligible men—was kindness. So many men are simply starving for kindness from a woman but so often find sarcasm and cynicism instead. One man commented to me on a climate nowadays of a prevailing hostility among women towards men. It is easy for a man to feel that some women are actually looking to find fault, ready to pounce on him at the slightest ill-chosen word or misspoken comment. In women this can manifest in self-righteousness, or a kind of assumed moral superiority over men—often unconscious on their part. Men complain that they often feel around women that they cannot win, or say or do anything right. Such women drive men away.

Perhaps women today may have good reasons for these attitudes, but they are very wounding to a man, especially to an interested man who is serious, sincere, and sensitive. Such a man will not ask such a woman out.

He simply doesn't want to be around it. I understand that in today's world it can be imprudent and even downright dangerous for a woman to be too kind too soon to a man she doesn't know well, and even then there still is chance of betrayal. The Sexual Revolution has ruined it for everyone as far as trust goes, but sarcasm and cynicism towards men have become epidemic in our society, and it has become so ingrained, so second-nature, that most women are not even conscious that they're being that way—but the men are. And they go the other way.

In terms of the risk factor, traditionally it has always been up to the woman to control how far things went and how fast, and, if she liked him, still keep the man captivated. In the confusion of the day that that was perhaps one more thing that was lost, or at least severely damaged. What has been lost,is an ancient womanly wisdom that women in previous ages had always intuitively known, on how to "handle" (not manipulate) a man—that is, how to anticipate him and keep him happy.

A modern woman might interpret this sort of thing as "game playing" but it is not. It is a deadly serious business that holds civilization together. Quails and pelicans have their mating rituals and dances and so do humans.

We all know that women have a need, especially in marriage, to be reassured that they are loved and cherished—they want to hear it. And a man who thinks that his love ought to be self-evident is thought to be rather obtuse in these matters. He should tell her he loves her often, as well as show it on every possible occasion. Yet, a man has a corresponding need for reassurance from the woman he loves, which society tends to ridicule, especially since the rise of feminism. His need is to be admired.

It is the way men are made.

A man needs to feel that he is a hero in the eyes of the woman he loves. It may sound corny, and most men may not admit it, but real life is corny, and it is true. It is from such admiration that a man derives his strength. The quest for this admiration, either in the eyes of a specific woman, or hoping to catch the eye of a woman, supplies him with inspiration and motivation to serve and accomplish in his world.

There are women, thanks perhaps to the effects of feminism, who act as though there were some sort of anathema against showing a man admiration, as if to say, "I'm not going to feed his stupid ego!" But, perhaps if his ego were fed once in a while he wouldn't be in the state of starvation that so diminishes a man as to prod him into the very ways that women find so intolerable. The result is a seemingly endless cycle of resentment and mutual punishment.

Many women appear to have unwittingly made it a point of pride to take an unhealthy (if unconscious) pleasure in denying men what they most need by reacting to them with sarcasm, cynicism, laughs at the expense of men, and a general attitude derived from the world. Many of these cynical attitudes towards men become self-fulfilling prophecies so discouraging to a man that he may start to live down to the belittlement, just as he would live up to praise were it offered. Male ego only becomes a problem when it is undernourished. Properly fed, it spends less time rebelling and trying to feed itself in unattractive and self-defeating ways. Properly fed, it causes a man to strive to be the best that he can be for the woman he loves and the society he serves. Some women may take offense at what I'm saying here, as though I were placing the whole onus of the problem on women.

I am not.

It is important not to confuse the generalities of politics and rhetoric with the tender particularities of where we most essentially live. The question at hand is why women aren't getting asked out more often. This is not an unimportant issue. It is important to remember that contemporary society is under a profound malaise, with everything good, pure, and holy coming under attack.

One of the chief things under attack is the family, the home. And if family is under attack then it stands to reason that everything that leads up to family—namely how men and women find each other—is also under attack.

I have noticed that most women do not have the foggiest idea how men feel, or what men feel, and most men feel too vulnerable to tell them. Some women are so embittered as to no longer care. They may be beyond my reach. In any case, the fact remains that I know men who have actually given up on women—who have, after so many rebuffs, come to the conclusion that women simply don't like men.

Men are far more vulnerable to women than women can even imagine. Men are sensitive to things in women that women are not even aware of. The slightest bit of sarcasm from a women in whom he's interested can cause him to call off the whole pursuit. A woman who thinks this weak on the man's part simply doesn't know how men are built and what men are feeling these days. We live in a culture that sinfully exploits women, but many women have retaliated by vengefully diminishing men with their tongues and attitudes. There is much healing needed on both sides.

While not seeking a slavish dependence, a man needs to be needed by the woman he loves, yet the constant message sent (ad nasuem) by the modern woman is "I'm strong and independent! I don't need a man!" Of course, this is a hollow and defensive cry and betrays her bitter disappointment in men—otherwise she wouldn't need to announce it so much—but men hear it at face value and retreat.

A man may admire a woman for her strong independent qualities, but let her start telling him of them often enough and what he hears is "Well, she doesn't need me then!" and his eye begins to wander in search of someone who does. A man may respect a women for her independence, but he will cherish and love her for appreciating and needing (and in so doing bringing out) his manliness.

If a woman were to ask my advice on how to get a man interested in her, I would tell her to pay attention to him. Listen to him. The world in which a man lives is very cold and competitive, and when a woman creates a safe place where a man may open himself up, it is usually irresistible to him. But this requires reverence.

Should she show the slightest hint of ridicule over what he says, or take him lightly he will turn to stone. Listen to what is important to him, his hopes and dreams. Most men when they talk like this are rather admirable and if she admires him she should not hide it. She need not make a show of it—which he would see through—it must be real. If it is authentic it is not "game playing", but honesty. If she were interested in him in the first place that implies some admiration, doesn't it? It would be game playing not to admire him.

The old saying that men are only interested in "one thing" namely sex, is cynical and false. Men who become that way do so because they have given up on love and the hope that a woman would really receive him if he did open up to her.

What does a man look for in a woman? In a word, a home. To a little child, a woman (usually its mother) is a place. This is not to say a thing. It is to say a home. And only a person can be a home. This is what a man looks for in the woman who would be his wife. This is not to say that it is her job to raise him—certainly not—but the shelter she provides for him emotionally, where he may be himself, generally makes him better, stronger, more of a man, and inspires him to provide for her and shelter her physically. Indeed, to the point of laying down his life.

If a woman gives a man what he really needs—genuine interest, understanding, and acceptance of him as he really is, he will ask her out, and keep coming back for more.

Nice guys do not finish last.

They just never start.

I'm glad I'm not alone, I was wondering wth was wrong with all these women today. I've experienced a lot of aggressive hostility from random bitches on the street and all over the place. All you stuck up stupid cunts are lost souls, I pity you.




Obviously, you have been hurt and are feeling very angry. When we think of the problem being the possibility of " all the women these days " vs you might have some baggage you are carrying around. I would go with the latter- but GOOD LUCK !

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This is one of the best articles I have ever read on this subject. I gave up on women about 10 years ago and im only 30. Now I ignore them, consider them to be generally evil and make as many remarks about them as they do about men. Funny thing is I actually love women. I just think they are insensitive and evil manipulative whores. but whatever, to each his own. Feminism is fucking us up majorly...I found one thing written by a well known feminist equating all sexual intercourse with a woman to be rape, stupid bitch oughtta be shot...

This is one of the best articles I have ever read on this subject. I gave up on women about 10 years ago and im only 30. Now I ignore them, consider them to be generally evil and make as many remarks about them as they do about men. Funny thing is I actually love women. I just think they are insensitive and evil manipulative whores. but whatever, to each his own. Feminism is fucking us up majorly...I found one thing written by a well known feminist equating all sexual intercourse with a woman to be rape, stupid bitch oughtta be shot...


the reason I have given up on men as anything other than friends
this seems to be the general opinion, whether you are the model 'wife' of the 50's or the model 'career' woman of the present.

I do agree that feminism is one of many ills destroying our society, however it is not just women who are to blame.

Op if you read many posts on glp and even look at some of the replies here then you will understand why women in general have become hardened.
When you read and see how men view women and how they view their lovers who have put on weight or let themselves go it's not hard to understand why women would act like men are the last things in the world they want.
I'm not saying all men are like this-obviously they aren't because you (op) don't seem to be, my husband isn't, plus I know several men who aren't like that.
Not all women are like this either-I am not and the women I choose to associate with aren't either.
I can sympathize with you op and also with the women who are treated bad too.
I'm glad I'm married to my best friend because I do not envy the dating scene nowadays.

This is one of the best articles I have ever read on this subject. I gave up on women about 10 years ago and im only 30. Now I ignore them, consider them to be generally evil and make as many remarks about them as they do about men. Funny thing is I actually love women. I just think they are insensitive and evil manipulative whores. but whatever, to each his own. Feminism is fucking us up majorly...I found one thing written by a well known feminist equating all sexual intercourse with a woman to be rape, stupid bitch oughtta be shot...


the reason I have given up on men as anything other than friends
this seems to be the general opinion, whether you are the model 'wife' of the 50's or the model 'career' woman of the present.

I do agree that feminism is one of many ills destroying our society, however it is not just women who are to blame.



women control the relationship, that is to say, they control who they're going to date... when they consistently blow off the nice men while screwing the alphas over and over again, it's going to empower these men to act like this even more, and it's going to piss off the nice guys, and both sides are going to end up calling women whores, yes, because their behavior shows they are, they don't want to settle down, they want constant mystery and drama, and the two just don't mix. So yeah, whatever...