Women, do you understand how remarkably wounding you can be to a man? Especially Intellectual men?

There are lots of great women who have good values but they don't hang out in bars or clubs.

kinda funny, being a 'whore' when you haven't had sex in almost 7 years.

I'm not quite sure that the original post meant that the woman needs to "just know" how to make a guy happy, as much as showing her how she can do it, and how many do not, instead focusing on only her needs, and not the man's in addition to it.



Really?

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In terms of the risk factor, traditionally it has always been up to the woman to control how far things went and how fast, and, if she liked him, still keep the man captivated. In the confusion of the day that that was perhaps one more thing that was lost, or at least severely damaged. What has been lost,is an ancient womanly wisdom that women in previous ages had always intuitively known, on how to "handle" (not manipulate) a man—that is, how to anticipate him and keep him happy.

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They should JUST KNOW!

Well, I'm sorry, guy, but men deride, mock, ridicule, and everything else, women's intuition and women's "weak emotional" way of approaching life.

And seriously, I'm so tired of hearing how perfect life USED TO BE when women were the property of men and had to stay with him no matter how he abused her. How life was perfect because there was no divorce rate.

My grandparents were together for their whole lives post-marriage at 18. They were miserable. She lived to cater to him, and she hated life. He lived to escape her, because she was miserable.

Maybe if he had ever bothered to HELP HER, it might have gone differently. But he left her to work and to care for the kids... while he went off 'breadwinning' and driving truck to escape from having to actually HELP OUT around the house.

He did "his part." I see this all the time... men think that they can just make money and that's "my part" and then they can demand sex like it's a RIGHT they have. And when they don't get it because their overworked, overtired, overwrought wife has no energy for it... they cry and complain that they're doing their part but their needs aren't being met.

Because once women just INTUITIVELY KNEW how to boss their men around and force them to actually be part of the family.

That's called NAGGING, and men whine and bitch about THAT, too!

You want to know why women are irritated and bitchy? It's because we can't win. If we're intellectual, we're wrong, bitchy, manly. If we're intuitive and emotional, we're weak, whiny, naggy and pathetic. If we're nice to a man, we're coming onto him. If we're not nice to a man, we're ruining his life and we're bitchy and we're making him not want women anymore.

If we work outside the home, we're selfish money grubbers who care more about money than our kids and family. If we don't work outside the home, we're selfish gold diggers.

If we focus on raising our children while we work, we're neglecting our husband. If we focus on staying skinny enough to keep our man interested, we're negligent mothers and shoddy housekeepers.

If we keep a clean house we're anal nagging bitches. If we have a messy house because we're focused on our kids and family, we're stupid lazy slobby bitches.

If we make more money than our husbands, we're usurping his position in life. If we don't make as much money as our husbands, we're beholden to him and we OWE HIM because he's carrying us financially.

WE CAN'T WIN!

We're supposed to be intuitive... but we're supposed to be science-minded super-skeptics. We're supposed to be homemakers and mommies, but we had better make money while we're at it because money is the only VALUABLE thing anyone can bring to a household. We're supposed to stay skinny as hell, but NEVER are we to give up something else in order to do it.

What the hell, we can do nothing right, ever. The OP is the perfect illustration of that, and YES, it says we should just KNOW how to HANDLE our MAN.

Why the fuck does a man need HANDLING ANYWAY?? Between raising kids, keeping house, holding a job, and spreading our legs on command, we don't have enough to do, now we have to HANDLE our man, too?!?!

Yeah, but damn, you know... it's all about US.

We're the ones demanding that we spread our legs on command. We're the ones demanding that we be sensitive, sweet, hardassed strong women. We're the one demanding that we work and also be homemakers, too. We're the ones that ignore the kids when we get home from work and leave all the work of raising them on our own shoulders. We're the ones that demand a bottle and need a diaper change every couple of hours. We're the ones that ask what time dinner is and complain about what we're having before going to kick back and relax and watch TV and ignore the kids for the next four hours.

All about us? Give me a freaking break. I spend the vast majority of my day raising a child. Then my husband comes home and I have to cook for him and STILL take care of my child, too. My WORK is 14 hours per day. His is 8.

Go ahead, talk about how it's "all about me." I barely get a chance to wash my damned face in the morning before I'm building castles and playing games that I promise you I wouldn't play if I had my choice.

Going on the 'net is "my" thing, and that's pretty pathetic, because I have to do that WHILE I'm playing a game or listening to a recital of the latest trip to the ice skating rink (which I was there for, by the way).

Single women get bitchy because they can't win, either, but married women get that way a lot faster. We can't do anything right. Women in this society can't do anything right in general.

Arg, never mind.

The OP really pissed me off. It would be so nice if you could walk around being nice to men and not have to deal with them thinking you're trying to sit on their pole. That's the one benefit of getting fat, ugly, and old. Men stop thinking that nice = "please fuck me."

There are lots of great women who have good values but they don't hang out in bars or clubs.


That's the problem on both sides of the gender issue ... "nice folk" don't hang out anywhere!

We spend the majority of our time at work, getting ready for work or resting up ... from work.

Work, grocery store for supplies, commute and home is about it for the average day.

Now, what I'd like to see is some method of marking them. If you never go out, wear a green dot on your forehead or something. Then we can instantly see "This is someone I might be able to sit down with for a while".

Granted, after a lot of invested time, you can start to see that green dot even when it's not there. But Jesus, the bullshit to get to this point has almost not been worth it.

Women dont want kindness ?
Humans dont want the mutual same things ?
Whoever wrote that stupid paragraph sounds like an abuser.

what would be a good idea would be for everyone to have their myers briggs 4 letter personality tattooed to their foreheads.. haha.. so I don't have to guess.. if it's stamped "INFP" I can maybe sit down with her and get to know her more.. and avoid the ones that say ESTJ, ESTP, ESFJ, etc.

There is a lot of wisdom in the original post. I was with a woman who had her chance with me and she did just those things. She liked to belittle me and tell me to shut up. Didn't take much of that to make me lose interest. It's hard to be with a woman when she's trying to be the boss and making fun of you. Just doesn't work.

A good woman ALWAYS builds her man up and makes him feel like he is the best man in the world and no one can match him. That gives him the self confidence to get ahead in life.

When a woman won't do that, she is destined to be a poor and be stuck with losers. Because no matter what she starts with, that's how they end up.

You too, woman? For the love of God..............

How did you arrive at this conclusion? How do you conduct yourself? I am an intellectual man, I do not become intimated or taken by superficial beauty.

However, what I do become emotionally attracted to in a woman is her capacity for unconditional love & affection devoid of sexual proclivity.

If you are a stay at home mother, I call BS that it's really not that hard to raise a kid at home.. cleaning takes only a few minutes when one stops thinking about it and just gets up and does it. If you want to go out and get a full time job while I stay home and take care of two kids, go for it! In my mind a woman who stays at home all day should do all the cooking and cleaning.. work sucks especially lots of overtime. I'd love to stay home all day.. women make it seem to hard but I know better.. this BS about how much they would earn if they were paid to do what they do.. BS. I can make a home look spotless in just a few hours time and not have to clean again for days except for maybe dishes, and they take all of 20 minutes to do. Keeping a house orderly is not hard.

I relate very well to this. Thank you.

I'm a good looking guy with a very stable decent-paying career (something women my age actually prefer in men). I know how to attract women, but I simply don't try anymore. It's just tiresome. The game has completely changed. They give absolutely no indication they are interested even when they are. The man does all the work.

I'd rather stay single and be a good dad to my daughter. Because of her non-nurturing, overly independent feminist of a mother, my 8-year-old daughter hates being a girl. Nice going there, mom.

Nice going there marrying a bitch like that.

what would be a good idea would be for everyone to have their myers briggs 4 letter personality tattooed to their foreheads.. haha.. so I don't have to guess.. if it's stamped "INFP" I can maybe sit down with her and get to know her more.. and avoid the ones that say ESTJ, ESTP, ESFJ, etc.

Excellent, interesting and informative.

Haha I love this forum. I am a German woman and no German guy has ever refused to talk to me lol I am the one who is refusing to talk to fugly guys haha but hey I have to give you credit for one point. I do not wanna marry and I do not care if a German guy marry a Asian or Russian chick. It's their decision and as long as they are happy:) I just wanna enjoy my life, I don't wanna have children or a husband. I think most girls in Germany think like me:) i

Women today are nothing but cunts!

Most certainly not.

I have examined the gentleman's material. It is fitting with my conjecture. I'm an American and live in Texas. Although, unlike my fellow countrymen, not cut from the same cloth.
I'm growing wearing having to say, "I'M AN AMERICAN." Because I have reverted to a previous "traditional, biblical, and old fashioned" state of being while retaining my intellect.

More akin to Epistemological Autocracy than "Westernization."

Malthusian principles and Hegelian dialectic in play.