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Women, do you understand how remarkably wounding you can be to a man? Especially Intellectual men?

 
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I am an alpha male, some call me the bad boy...

And girls want to fukk alpha males like me. Let it piss you off as much as you want, but you know it's completely true. That girl you like who is kinda cute in a weird way, but is totally sweet and you have the biggest crush on? The one who keeps going back to guys who treat her wrong for reasons you don't understand? The one who calls you up at 1 am to cry about how her boyfriend hasn't called her in 3 days, and no matter how long you listen to her, she'll never think of you as anything other than asexual? The one who will curl up next to you on the couch, hug you close, kiss you on the cheek, and never let you fukking touch her beyond that?

Yeah, I'm screwing her.

The hot girl who won't even look at you when you nod at them and smile? The one who laughs when you trip in the hallway and drop your stuff? The one who comes up and coyly asks for your help with her homework, and then pretends you don't exist once you finish?

Yeah, I'm banging her too, even harder.

The geeky girl you think might be enough like you that you have a chance with her? She plays warcraft on your server, and watches anime, and reads comics? She's so incredible and you just love her so much but you still haven't worked up the courage to tell her how you feel about her?

Guess who just sucked me off and told me they'll always love me?

And your pristine picture of your loving mother... The one who always has an ear for your frustration, the one you idolize and think perfect in every way while you try to compare every girl to her...

Well my boy, I was just with her, and I filled her cavities with my hot juice, for she thinks you were a mistake and she must make it right by having a son by me, the alpha male.
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You are quite right we somewhat evolved men sometimes think it's frustrating to see how so many women are naturally attracted to your kind. Just as evolved women often find it frustrating to see so many men flocking to big-boobed bimbos.

Not that it really matters that much to us.

Let the less evolved men and women have each other we say, because they truly deserve each other. The only reason we sometimes let your behavior get to us, is because our own kind is so few and far between. It is painful to search for our own kin among the less evolved masses.

At times we fool ourselves into projecting more inner qualities on someone than what is really there, just because we so fervently wish it were true; we wish our search was over.

If you then come along and prove us wrong, it hurts, but not in the way you think. We don't hurt because we see you as superior in any way (lol at the thought), we just hurt because we had created an illusion, and you shattered the illusion for us. Having one's illusions shattered is both healthy and desirable, but it still hurts. We embrace this for the growth it brings.

You are merely an unimportant pawn in the process. A happy pawn who thinks he's all that, just because he scored another bimbo pussy. We understand your point of view completely, pathetic as it is.

But you truly understand nothing about us slightly more evolved humans. We have completely different goals in life from yours, and you haven't even got a clue what they could be.

Let's just say they are not the same as yours.

Just because you are a nuisance to us doesn't mean we admire you or envy you in any way. On the contrary: we pity you.

You have inserted your penis in many vaginas. You think that is a great achievement in life. Well, engrave the final count on your tomb stone. Perhaps someone cares.
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To the OP: quit being a pussy!!
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I can only speak from a womans point of view.. and I'm married but I have been single at one point( divorced).

I believe women appear to play games, and perhaps men too, b/c the moment a person shows affection or as if they really like YOU, it freaks the other one out.

It's the old adage.. men want to hunt. men want to do the chasing. If they get it too easy they dont' want it.

There are books out about this. Maybe the younger women ( and perhaps older divorced women) have read the books.

It teaches a woman not to put themselves out there b/c once they show their cards so to speak, the man loses interest and goes on to the next conquest.

I'm asking you men on here, is this the real truth or not? Search deep and answer. I'd like to know for real.
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What you say reminds me a lot of what I went through in my last relationship of sorts. We argued a lot, she never understood my views, my feelings on things or tried to, on politics, religious figures in the public eye (T.D Jakes for one example), or even just my struggles with sex (which I was often afraid to talk to her about after a while).

To give you an idea of this would go, she and I were watching a movie one night, and at the end there was a sexual scene somewhat. This kinda got to me as far as my urges went, and I told her as such. She then proceeds to get mad at me, saying because I couldn't control my mind, that all I saw was as opposed to the real message.

That was the type of thing I had to deal with, I never really felt understood, accepted by her, it was always more about me becoming what she wanted then being accepted as I was, and where I was.

Now, the relationship I have, it's like night and day compared to that one. It hasn't always been perfect of course, we've had our issues (and one really big one that almost broke us up), but it's been a lot smoother then what I once did. I feel more understood then I ever was before, she listens to me, accepts me as I am and where I am at in my life. She cares about me, she has supported me even as I've struggled with the sexual desires, even when I may not (and really feel I don't) deserve it.

That's really what I've wanted for so long, more so the last few years as my beliefs changed, and my feelings on government changed. I always feared that I'd be alone, as I am not like most anymore in how I think (as some of you may relate to), as well as my battles with sex, but having Angela in my life now, makes me feel I may not have to be anymore.

PS: am posting this on a separate IP if anyone is wondering how I am able to post
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Whats wrong with just havin a nice big knob good body good looks a nice personality and being able to make money and be loving and caring to your partner...Surely this is enough for most intelligent women.

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A similar notion has been expressed many times here. Especially in this thread.
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Nice guys do not finish last.

They just never start.
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Birds of a feather, flock together.

Like seeks like.

You have to be what you want.

Stop whining.
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OP, the men you are talking about in your post sound pretty much like gays. And, you must be one of them, too.
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What do women expect?

When your feminist sisters proclaimed the 'war on sexual harassment' they screwed over the women that actually like men.

If you are trying to figure out why men aren't coming on to you any more, go ask one of your carpet munching sisters if they are happy that you aren't getting any cock any more.
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OP, YOU APPEAR TOTALLY CLUELESS ABOUT WOMEN, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE OUT "CLUES" OR ANY OF THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU WERE A MAN, YOU'D SIMPLY KNOW THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO AFTER WHAT YOU WANT IN LIFE

I MEAN, IF YOU SEE A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, SIMPLY INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND EXPRESS A PERSONAL INTEREST IN HER, AND IF SHE'S AVAILABLE TO YOU, THEN SHE'LL LET YOU KNOW

SO YOU SEE, THERE'S NOTHING REQUIRED FROM THE WOMAN IN THIS, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ON YOU TO MAKE IT HAPPEN
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OP, YOU APPEAR TOTALLY CLUELESS ABOUT WOMEN, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE OUT "CLUES" OR ANY OF THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU WERE A MAN, YOU'D SIMPLY KNOW THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO AFTER WHAT YOU WANT IN LIFE

I MEAN, IF YOU SEE A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, SIMPLY INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND EXPRESS A PERSONAL INTEREST IN HER, AND IF SHE'S AVAILABLE TO YOU, THEN SHE'LL LET YOU KNOW

SO YOU SEE, THERE'S NOTHING REQUIRED FROM THE WOMAN IN THIS, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ON YOU TO MAKE IT HAPPEN
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Sure,
The next day your looking for a new job.
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OP, YOU APPEAR TOTALLY CLUELESS ABOUT WOMEN, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE OUT "CLUES" OR ANY OF THAT, BECAUSE IF YOU WERE A MAN, YOU'D SIMPLY KNOW THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO AFTER WHAT YOU WANT IN LIFE

I MEAN, IF YOU SEE A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, SIMPLY INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND EXPRESS A PERSONAL INTEREST IN HER, AND IF SHE'S AVAILABLE TO YOU, THEN SHE'LL LET YOU KNOW

SO YOU SEE, THERE'S NOTHING REQUIRED FROM THE WOMAN IN THIS, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ON YOU TO MAKE IT HAPPEN
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It occurs to me, my post has not been give a modicum of steady thought. Rather an afterthought - as with all piece meal forms of discourse taking place today.
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Birds of a feather, flock together.

Like seeks like.

You have to be what you want.

Stop whining.

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What do women expect?

When your feminist sisters proclaimed the 'war on sexual harassment' they screwed over the women that actually like men.

If you are trying to figure out why men aren't coming on to you any more, go ask one of your carpet munching sisters if they are happy that you aren't getting any cock any more.
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As a human man, I am writing from that venue.
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I PAY NO MIND TO ANY OF THIS "ALPHA MALE" BULLSHIT, BECAUSE THE MALE WHO DECLARES HIMSELF AN "ALPHA MALE" IS A TRANSVESTITE NARCISSIST AT HEART, UNABLE TO SUSTAIN BOTH HIMSELF AND HIS MATE, AND FEMALES WHO GO AFTER THE "ALPHA MALE" ARE ALSO LOSERS, BECAUSE IN THEIR LACK OF ESTEEM, THEY BELIEVE ONLY THE "ALPHA MALE" IS WORTHY OF THEIR WHOREDOM

THE TRUE LEADER OF MANKIND IS THE "ALPHA-OMEGA MALE"
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To the OP: quit being a pussy!!
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take the time to do little unspoken things, that interest a man.

One of the rarest qualities to find— kindness.

in today's world it can be imprudent and even downright dangerous for a woman to be too kind too soon to a man she doesn't know well, and even then there still is chance of betrayal.

What has been lost,is an ancient womanly wisdom that women in previous ages had always intuitively known, on how to "handle" (not manipulate) a man—that is, how to anticipate him and keep him happy.

love ought to be self-evident

a man has a corresponding need for reassurance from the woman he loves
His need is to be admired.

It is the way men are made.

A man needs to feel that he is a hero in the eyes of the woman he loves.
It is from such admiration that a man derives his strength. The quest for this admiration, either in the eyes of a specific woman, or hoping to catch the eye of a woman, supplies him with inspiration and motivation to serve and accomplish in his world.

if his ego were fed once in a while he wouldn't be in the state of starvation that so diminishes a man

cynical attitudes towards men become self-fulfilling prophecies so discouraging to a man that he may start to live down to the belittlement, just as he would live up to praise were it offered.

Male ego only becomes a problem when it is undernourished. Properly fed, it spends less time rebelling and trying to feed itself in unattractive and self-defeating ways. Properly fed, it causes a man to strive to be the best that he can be for the woman he loves and the society he serves.

contemporary society is under a profound malaise

most women do not have the foggiest idea how men feel, or what men feel, and most men feel too vulnerable to tell them.


Men are far more vulnerable to women than women can even imagine.

Men are sensitive to things in women that women are not even aware of. The slightest bit of sarcasm from a women in whom he's interested can cause him to call off the whole pursuit.
A woman who thinks this weak on the man's part simply doesn't know how men are built and what men are feeling these days. We live in a culture that sinfully exploits women, but many women have retaliated by vengefully diminishing men with their tongues and attitudes. There is much healing needed on both sides.

While not seeking a slavish dependence, a man needs to be needed by the woman he loves

A man may admire a woman for her strong independent qualities, but let her start telling him of them often enough and what he hears is "Well, she doesn't need me then!" and his eye begins to wander in search of someone who does. A man may respect a women for her independence, but he will cherish and love her for appreciating and needing (and in so doing bringing out) his manliness.

If a woman were to ask my advice, I would tell her to pay attention to him. Listen to him. The world in which a man lives is very cold and competitive, and when a woman creates a safe place where a man may open himself up, it is usually irresistible to him. But this requires reverence.

take him lightly he will turn to stone. Listen to what is important to him, his hopes and dreams. Most men when they talk like this are rather admirable and if she admires him she should not hide it.
honesty
admiration

The old saying that men are only interested in "one thing" namely sex, is cynical and false. Men who become that way do so because they have given up on love.

What does a man look for in a woman? In a word, home.
And only a person can be a home—
the shelter she provides for him emotionally, where he may be himself
makes him better, stronger, more of a man, and inspires him to provide for her and shelter her.
Indeed, to the point of laying down his life.

If a woman gives a man what he really needs—genuine interest, understanding, and acceptance of him as he really is, he will ask her out, and keep coming back for more.
 Quoting: Confounded Intellectual. 856860


Herein is freedom- to become all we are naturally and powerfully meant to be and become- supported, nourished and nurtured, one by and through the other, we are strength, we attain/ enjoy harmony and balance, discover and unleash our infinite potential.
Reverence, appreciation, honour, compassion, fealty- all the more precious in an age where they have become little more than words.

I add-
At last- complement to my innermost core...as a woman I was beginning to think there were not such men on this planet- rare at best- who embody this- rarer still the ones willing to candidly share, at this level of courage and honesty.
Thank you OP- you have re-kindled hope.
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good post and sadly neither sex realizes how important the other is-take care hf



:kissy2u: and a hug-everyone enjoys being loved and appreciated-to get it one must give it and many times to ones who have no appreciation of what sharing one has given.

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quoting another

I am an alpha male, some call me the bad boy...

And girls want to fukk alpha males like me. Let it piss you off as much as you want, but you know it's completely true. That girl you like who is kinda cute in a weird way, but is totally sweet and you have the biggest crush on? The one who keeps going back to guys who treat her wrong for reasons you don't understand? The one who calls you up at 1 am to cry about how her boyfriend hasn't called her in 3 days, and no matter how long you listen to her, she'll never think of you as anything other than asexual? The one who will curl up next to you on the couch, hug you close, kiss you on the cheek, and never let you fukking touch her beyond that?

Yeah, I'm screwing her.

The hot girl who won't even look at you when you nod at them and smile? The one who laughs when you trip in the hallway and drop your stuff? The one who comes up and coyly asks for your help with her homework, and then pretends you don't exist once you finish?

Yeah, I'm banging her too, even harder.

The geeky girl you think might be enough like you that you have a chance with her? She plays warcraft on your server, and watches anime, and reads comics? She's so incredible and you just love her so much but you still haven't worked up the courage to tell her how you feel about her?

Guess who just sucked me off and told me they'll always love me?

And your pristine picture of your loving mother... The one who always has an ear for your frustration, the one you idolize and think perfect in every way while you try to compare every girl to her...

Well my boy, I was just with her, and I filled her cavities with my hot juice, for she thinks you were a mistake and she must make it right by having a son by me, the alpha male.

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A much brighter poster:
You are quite right we somewhat evolved men sometimes think it's frustrating to see how so many women are naturally attracted to your kind. Just as evolved women often find it frustrating to see so many men flocking to big-boobed bimbos.





Not that it really matters that much to us.

Let the less evolved men and women have each other we say, because they truly deserve each other. The only reason we sometimes let your behavior get to us, is because our own kind is so few and far between. It is painful to search for our own kin among the less evolved masses.

At times we fool ourselves into projecting more inner qualities on someone than what is really there, just because we so fervently wish it were true; we wish our search was over.

If you then come along and prove us wrong, it hurts, but not in the way you think. We don't hurt because we see you as superior in any way (lol at the thought), we just hurt because we had created an illusion, and you shattered the illusion for us. Having one's illusions shattered is both healthy and desirable, but it still hurts. We embrace this for the growth it brings.

You are merely an unimportant pawn in the process. A happy pawn who thinks he's all that, just because he scored another bimbo pussy. We understand your point of view completely, pathetic as it is.

But you truly understand nothing about us slightly more evolved humans. We have completely different goals in life from yours, and you haven't even got a clue what they could be.

Let's just say they are not the same as yours.

Just because you are a nuisance to us doesn't mean we admire you or envy you in any way. On the contrary: we pity you.

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I agree with second poster above not the first-however I respond to the bimbo comment...as many assume all breasts are implants and all big breasted women are stupid-not necessarily. I think you should watch out being baited-denigrating women as it is obvious the rude poster is trying to get you to do...do you see what I am referring to...instead of faulting the one making such nasty comments-he tries to incite you to denigrate women as well...I hope you see what I am referring too it is very subtle but evident-see past the superficial baiting-or do not waste time on hot air of another that means NOTHING especially if it is ineffective-

Not all with natural breasts are bimbos-the poster you responded to is a child evidenced by the ignorance(even if he is 45 yrs old) He is a Peter Pan and women who flock to them and continue to flock to Peter Pans are left with a cartoon of a "MAN"
No worries for real men as the kind of women they seek is way past the diseased bad boy with major emotional issues and dysfunction as his middle name-I think it has more to do with repressed women who have an issue with Madonna/Whore and cannot really do "bad" stuff unless the "bad" boy "makes" them....maybe I am oversimplifying but it seems sooner or later those women are very unhappy with a child for a husband/partner or they leave them and get another better badboy or they get better and realize the error of losers/scrubs with big words-compensating for their POOR technique.


Take care hf
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- U.S. government mind manipulator, Dr. Jose Delgado, Congressional Record, No. 262E, Vol. 118, 1974
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Birds of a feather, flock together.

Like seeks like.

You have to be what you want.

Stop whining.


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Birds of a feather, flock together.

Like seeks like.

You have to be what you want.

Stop whining.



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Continuing to quote yourself? For what purpose? For the sake of posterity?
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This post speaks so much truth...

You guys really just don't understand, like it really matters how many girls you have fucked in your life.....what a fucking accomplishment that must be....

There is a HUGE difference fucking a random hook-up as opposed to a person that you truly and deeply care about.

And I read that ladder theory. I think it's just a theory for people who have completely given up on true love....because once you do find that special person, and when the feeling is mutual, all other people that you supposedly wanted to fuck simply disappear.

I am in an absolutely perfect relationship with a girl I love, and she feels the same way. It's so perfect that all we want is to just make the other person as happy as possible. This results in something so much greater than these petty relationships that are just a result of one person wanting to fuck the other.

I've been with plenty of other women, and I can honestly say that what I have with my girl beats absolutely anything I've ever had in my life.

Call me a pussy or whatever you want, it's the fucking truth.....so instead of trying to fuck everything that walks in order to fill that empty void of not being in love, go out and actively look for a person you can truly connect with.
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If men are feeling wounded by the way they have been treated over the past forty years, then it should be easy for them to understand the pain of women who have been mistreated, battered, sexually abused and exploited, underpaid, stupefied, neglected and devalued, for the past four hundred years. I will start caring about the egos of men when men start caring about the spirits of women.
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As a woman who is turned off by beta males...

OP - your problem lies with your own behavior. It doesn't seem very intellectual to me for someone to blame the whole of a gender for something that is obviously your own problem. It also doesn't seem intellectual to me for you to keep on doing the same thing over and over and to expect a different outcome.

Women are mostly sheeple, just like men these days. All you hafta do is show leadership qualities, a willingness to take charge, and the woman will do as you say.

As for me, I'm no catch. I'm not very attractive.. I'm weird as hell, awkward and clumsy, tall. I talk about weird things like quantum mechanics and the end of the world. I attract men like CrAzY - and those men I have been with - propose. I don't understand it. I've been proposed to 6 times, by monogamous males. I said yes to the one who looks like a greek god and wields a sword like a ninja.

Maybe it takes a special woman to appreciate a man. I know that I look to men for power, strength, protection, leadership, and fearlessness. Op - you project whiny weakness.
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That was a good read back in '04...
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Re: Women, do you understand how remarkably wounding you can be to a man? Especially Intellectual men?
Fuck women, usless degraded gslutty pieces of shit that they have become. Look how far you have fallen.
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If I could, Id smash your face into the pavement until you looked like raw hamburger meat, you swine.
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Re: Women, do you understand how remarkably wounding you can be to a man? Especially Intellectual men?
Its all created by TPTB as anouther means of population reduction.
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Re: Women, do you understand how remarkably wounding you can be to a man? Especially Intellectual men?
Birds of a feather, flock together.

Like seeks like.

You have to be what you want.

Stop whining.





Continuing to quote yourself? For what purpose? For the sake of posterity?
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I see you like this... lala
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Re: Women, do you understand how remarkably wounding you can be to a man? Especially Intellectual men?
there's really no such thing as "alpha males" or "beta males" there's only "winners" and "losers"
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Re: Women, do you understand how remarkably wounding you can be to a man? Especially Intellectual men?
Women today are not giving us any cues that they want to be asked out, and without some indication or encouragement that he might be well received, a man is not going to risk the rejection—which men are far more sensitive to than women evidently realize.

The days of men asking women out are gone! Women don't even take the time to do little unspoken things, that interest a man. Something basic to our culture is being lost. No wonder so many women are so unhappy.


In fact, many men have come to think women don't even like men, because of the way women react to their initial overtures, yet, the women wonder why men aren't asking them out, they're either not saying yes, or they're not sending the signals

One of the rarest qualities to find in a young woman today—at least towards eligible men—was kindness. So many men are simply starving for kindness from a woman but so often find sarcasm and cynicism instead. One man commented to me on a climate nowadays of a prevailing hostility among women towards men. It is easy for a man to feel that some women are actually looking to find fault, ready to pounce on him at the slightest ill-chosen word or misspoken comment. In women this can manifest in self-righteousness, or a kind of assumed moral superiority over men—often unconscious on their part. Men complain that they often feel around women that they cannot win, or say or do anything right. Such women drive men away.

Perhaps women today may have good reasons for these attitudes, but they are very wounding to a man, especially to an interested man who is serious, sincere, and sensitive. Such a man will not ask such a woman out.

He simply doesn't want to be around it. I understand that in today's world it can be imprudent and even downright dangerous for a woman to be too kind too soon to a man she doesn't know well, and even then there still is chance of betrayal. The Sexual Revolution has ruined it for everyone as far as trust goes, but sarcasm and cynicism towards men have become epidemic in our society, and it has become so ingrained, so second-nature, that most women are not even conscious that they're being that way—but the men are. And they go the other way.

In terms of the risk factor, traditionally it has always been up to the woman to control how far things went and how fast, and, if she liked him, still keep the man captivated. In the confusion of the day that that was perhaps one more thing that was lost, or at least severely damaged. What has been lost,is an ancient womanly wisdom that women in previous ages had always intuitively known, on how to "handle" (not manipulate) a man—that is, how to anticipate him and keep him happy.

A modern woman might interpret this sort of thing as "game playing" but it is not. It is a deadly serious business that holds civilization together. Quails and pelicans have their mating rituals and dances and so do humans.

We all know that women have a need, especially in marriage, to be reassured that they are loved and cherished—they want to hear it. And a man who thinks that his love ought to be self-evident is thought to be rather obtuse in these matters. He should tell her he loves her often, as well as show it on every possible occasion. Yet, a man has a corresponding need for reassurance from the woman he loves, which society tends to ridicule, especially since the rise of feminism. His need is to be admired.

It is the way men are made.

A man needs to feel that he is a hero in the eyes of the woman he loves. It may sound corny, and most men may not admit it, but real life is corny, and it is true. It is from such admiration that a man derives his strength. The quest for this admiration, either in the eyes of a specific woman, or hoping to catch the eye of a woman, supplies him with inspiration and motivation to serve and accomplish in his world.

There are women, thanks perhaps to the effects of feminism, who act as though there were some sort of anathema against showing a man admiration, as if to say, "I'm not going to feed his stupid ego!" But, perhaps if his ego were fed once in a while he wouldn't be in the state of starvation that so diminishes a man as to prod him into the very ways that women find so intolerable. The result is a seemingly endless cycle of resentment and mutual punishment.

Many women appear to have unwittingly made it a point of pride to take an unhealthy (if unconscious) pleasure in denying men what they most need by reacting to them with sarcasm, cynicism, laughs at the expense of men, and a general attitude derived from the world. Many of these cynical attitudes towards men become self-fulfilling prophecies so discouraging to a man that he may start to live down to the belittlement, just as he would live up to praise were it offered. Male ego only becomes a problem when it is undernourished. Properly fed, it spends less time rebelling and trying to feed itself in unattractive and self-defeating ways. Properly fed, it causes a man to strive to be the best that he can be for the woman he loves and the society he serves. Some women may take offense at what I'm saying here, as though I were placing the whole onus of the problem on women.

I am not.

It is important not to confuse the generalities of politics and rhetoric with the tender particularities of where we most essentially live. The question at hand is why women aren't getting asked out more often. This is not an unimportant issue. It is important to remember that contemporary society is under a profound malaise, with everything good, pure, and holy coming under attack.

One of the chief things under attack is the family, the home. And if family is under attack then it stands to reason that everything that leads up to family—namely how men and women find each other—is also under attack.

I have noticed that most women do not have the foggiest idea how men feel, or what men feel, and most men feel too vulnerable to tell them. Some women are so embittered as to no longer care.
They may be beyond my reach. In any case, the fact remains that I know men who have actually given up on women—who have, after so many rebuffs, come to the conclusion that women simply don't like men.

Men are far more vulnerable to women than women can even imagine. Men are sensitive to things in women that women are not even aware of. The slightest bit of sarcasm from a women in whom he's interested can cause him to call off the whole pursuit. A woman who thinks this weak on the man's part simply doesn't know how men are built and what men are feeling these days. We live in a culture that sinfully exploits women, but many women have retaliated by vengefully diminishing men with their tongues and attitudes. There is much healing needed on both sides.

While not seeking a slavish dependence, a man needs to be needed by the woman he loves, yet the constant message sent (ad nasuem) by the modern woman is "I'm strong and independent! I don't need a man!" Of course, this is a hollow and defensive cry and betrays her bitter disappointment in men—otherwise she wouldn't need to announce it so much—but men hear it at face value and retreat.

A man may admire a woman for her strong independent qualities, but let her start telling him of them often enough and what he hears is "Well, she doesn't need me then!" and his eye begins to wander in search of someone who does. A man may respect a women for her independence, but he will cherish and love her for appreciating and needing (and in so doing bringing out) his manliness.

If a woman were to ask my advice on how to get a man interested in her, I would tell her to pay attention to him. Listen to him. The world in which a man lives is very cold and competitive, and when a woman creates a safe place where a man may open himself up, it is usually irresistible to him. But this requires reverence.

Should she show the slightest hint of ridicule over what he says, or take him lightly he will turn to stone. Listen to what is important to him, his hopes and dreams. Most men when they talk like this are rather admirable and if she admires him she should not hide it. She need not make a show of it—which he would see through—it must be real. If it is authentic it is not "game playing", but honesty. If she were interested in him in the first place that implies some admiration, doesn't it? It would be game playing not to admire him.

The old saying that men are only interested in "one thing" namely sex, is cynical and false. Men who become that way do so because they have given up on love and the hope that a woman would really receive him if he did open up to her.

What does a man look for in a woman? In a word, a home. To a little child, a woman (usually its mother) is a place. This is not to say a thing. It is to say a home. And only a person can be a home. This is what a man looks for in the woman who would be his wife. This is not to say that it is her job to raise him—certainly not—but the shelter she provides for him emotionally, where he may be himself, generally makes him better, stronger, more of a man, and inspires him to provide for her and shelter her physically. Indeed, to the point of laying down his life.

If a woman gives a man what he really needs—genuine interest, understanding, and acceptance of him as he really is, he will ask her out, and keep coming back for more.
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I read this post and applaud your thorough analysis. I think you are right! Society is made out of people though, men and women. Both parties make the agenda.

However, I find myself scarce among women and their tendency to "taunt" men I find appaling!

I wish we, women, could be proud and feel no shame for the fact that we are created as the softer version of the males. It would mean balance. Something which is not taught us, is that we can only define ourselves female if we acknowledge the male (and vice versa). This balance can't be separated (what Yah brings together no man can put asunder). Meaning that your observation is a consequence of men trying to alter the ways of nature.

I am not a feminist, I am not what you call emancipated. I call myself "after-eve". Along with this perspective I've adopted since 3 years (almost) I can't back societies standards for relationships. It all starts with the concept or understanding of what "love" means.

Women tent to forget that we come with different assets. Both male and female are made in such away that, when understood, we would fit perfectly forming the basis to found families on and to progress and develop as a species.

Women today tent to look at relationship as a way to complete their lives as opposed to give back. While improvement can only come when we give, and women by nature are givers!

Sadly the standards are set, and we are being "adviced" by the Oprah's, Commercials, Film & Tv-showproducers, Editors of womansmagazines etc. All carrying the agenda which purports to destroy the family..... The snake whent to the woman in order to destroy the human family and separate them from their source, Yah, todays social-economic and political leaders are mislead the women of today and generations back in order to destroy unity!

I myself, would not want my lover, or husband to feel like he needs to work himself over to know whether he is loved. My humanflaws aside, where other women would shut the door, I keep it open! However I am sorry to say that I haven't come across a man who would keep the door open for me... at least not that I remember.

I wonder how man choose their partners though... you see, I am a nerd! I am called pretty, sexy feminine but when I open my mouth people hear a nerd. I love to read and gather knowledge but when I used to date (I stopped dating altogether), I always found men who didn't appreciate this part of me, one flat out asked me to "shut up, and be pretty". So, the curiosity is that the minority of women like me are being ignored by the majority of men. While men are complaining about the majority of women swimming on the surface of the pond.

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