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Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?

 
AriaAngel
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Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
I think Ramtha has been around for about 30 years.

The origional teachings was about ASCENSION and SELF-EMPOWERMENT.

How many TRUE Masters have been created over the 30 years?

ALL people I know who were hot about this ... spent thousands of dollars and eventually LOST EVERTHING to that cause.

Returned home to be taken care of by family and friends.




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she got visited and then ran with it-HOAX-scam, lies. Some truth but now it's all about the money.
"I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes

"Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson).



"The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan
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Re: Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
Perhaps it is not about being real of fake but what is gained by the perceiver "I".

I think ALL SPIRITUAL Teachings should be given FREElY...

Did Buddha CHARGE?

Did Jesus CHARGE?

THEY LIVED the wisdom and it was NOTICED.

One thing I like when I watched AVATAR... the one message.

SPIRIT does NOT Take sides... it PRESERVES LIFE. It interviens to PRESERVE LIFE.





she got visited and then ran with it-HOAX-scam, lies. Some truth but now it's all about the money.
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Re: Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
C'mon, she's fake.
My aunt used to know her before she was Ramtha.Their kids used to go to the same bus stop. She told me that JZ used to dress her kids so overly preppy to that she had to explain that if she kept dressing them that way the kids would never be able to handle the verbal abuse they would get from the other kids and to start dressing them normal.
She also told me that Ramtha is a big crock of sh*t.
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C'mon, she's fake.
My aunt used to know her before she was Ramtha.Their kids used to go to the same bus stop. She told me that JZ used to dress her kids so overly preppy to that she had to explain that if she kept dressing them that way the kids would never be able to handle the verbal abuse they would get from the other kids and to start dressing them normal.
She also told me that Ramtha is a big crock of sh*t.
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LOL

Im baffled at people blindly accepting things such as these as truths. Its mind-boggling!
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I know that within every one... there is a DESIRE to be GREATER... this is why SELF-HELP Books SELL.

God Programmed from birth SUCCESS...

Unless your childhood was so violent or demeaning that you simply can not REMEMBER to BE GREATER and love yourslf.


The SALES PITCH has always been just like those Self-Help Teachers of the 60's

BE GREATER...
HAVE MORE...

Smile

C'mon, she's fake.
My aunt used to know her before she was Ramtha.Their kids used to go to the same bus stop. She told me that JZ used to dress her kids so overly preppy to that she had to explain that if she kept dressing them that way the kids would never be able to handle the verbal abuse they would get from the other kids and to start dressing them normal.
She also told me that Ramtha is a big crock of sh*t.



LOL

Im baffled at people blindly accepting things such as these as truths. Its mind-boggling!
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Re: Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
True seers see she (he) is fake.

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"I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes

"Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson).



"The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan
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The purpose of life it to BE ALL YOU CAN BE... that is why they join groups.


BE ALL YOU CAN BE.... Be Greater... the SALES PITCH

Wingmakers...

Channels...

Church....

Football...

Sports...

Business...

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It tends to be very SELF centered. So they don't mind spending all that money if they will become wealthy beyond their wildest dreams by realising their true potential, etc.
People who are selfish, self-centered, seeking enlightenment for SELF and not concerned abnegating self and serving others, are easily taken in by deceiving gurus and spirits.
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"Even a BRICK wants to be something."
Louis Kahn
A clip from "Indecent Proposal".




The purpose of life it to BE ALL YOU CAN BE... that is why they join groups.


BE ALL YOU CAN BE.... Be Greater... the SALES PITCH

Wingmakers...

Channels...

Church....

Football...

Sports...

Business...
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Re: Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
The purpose of life it to BE ALL YOU CAN BE... that is why they join groups.


BE ALL YOU CAN BE.... Be Greater... the SALES PITCH

Wingmakers...

Channels...

Church....

Football...

Sports...

Business...
 Quoting: AriaAngel

Don't forget ARMY -be all you can be. When GOD builds a house, the Devil builds one right beside it.
"I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes

"Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson).



"The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan
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phoney as hell. People have caught her practicing her Ramtha shtick. No one has become a master.
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Brilliant video. Amazing clean lines. Gehry is good also.
"I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes

"Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson).



"The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan
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Re: Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
She is a huckster.
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Re: Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
She is a huckster.
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funny how her accent changes as she talks.
"I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes

"Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson).



"The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan
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It is garbage and egocentric New Age disinfo. fed to people while the lady runs to the bank. "Ramtha" is a demonic entity which is feeding her all of this fluff. The goal is to deceive people and to take their money while doing it. Don't buy into this crap.
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Thanks Zephyr333...
I love this...
Frank Gehry: Be Yourself



Sketches of Frank Gehry


WOW... AMAZING......


Gehry is good also.
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She is a huckster.

funny how her accent changes as she talks.
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Even though she pretends it is a male being channeled, it is definitely female in all aspects.
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My friend works at Madriver post @ Edgemar(Santa Monica). Lucky sucker!
"I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes

"Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson).



"The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan
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She is a huckster.

funny how her accent changes as she talks.


Even though she pretends it is a male being channeled, it is definitely female in all aspects.
 Quoting: FubarMan

She makes me wanna puke.
"I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes

"Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson).



"The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan
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Re: Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
As real as fake can be!
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As real as fake can be!
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that's rich right there!
"I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes

"Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson).



"The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan
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Re: Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
plenty of opinions here, and I vote that she is a fake and a fraud

I'm not alone, check out what her own bodyguard/security guy has to say.

[link to wideeyecinema.com]
"The nature of the universe is such that ends can never justify the means. On the contrary, the means always determine the end."
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Re: Is Ramtha Real? or a Fake?
Perhaps it is not about being real of fake but what is gained by the perceiver "I".

I think ALL SPIRITUAL Teachings should be given FREElY...

Did Buddha CHARGE?

Did Jesus CHARGE?

THEY LIVED the wisdom and it was NOTICED.

One thing I like when I watched AVATAR... the one message.

SPIRIT does NOT Take sides... it PRESERVES LIFE. It interviens to PRESERVE LIFE.





she got visited and then ran with it-HOAX-scam, lies. Some truth but now it's all about the money.
 Quoting: Zephyr333

 Quoting: AriaAngel


I have a really close friend that is into this and this is exactly what I've said to her..If she/he really was a spiritual being she/he wouldn't charge..
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Not to mention it is ridiculously expensive to be part of this elitist cult. People pay between $500-$1,000 dollars and they don't even get a nice place to stay while they are there. They camp out and prepare their own food or buy food there. Plus some of the shit they do is crazy like my friend said she was in a labyrinth blindfolded for 7 hours trying to find her way out. Or they will put a card like a recipe card and write a word that means something to them then the note card is put out into a large field and then hundreds of blind folded people try to find their cards while in the rain and mud and people crashing into each other that's what the money buys you..

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