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INVENTOR OF HAARP BLOWS THE WHISTLE

Posted By: wizZzard
Date: Friday, 8 April 2005, 1:19 p.m.

Excellent, thorough series of articles, a MUST Read, go to the website and print it all out and read it. It covers chem trails, ozone hole, haarp, drug companies, earthquake generation, flouride, and much much more straight from the guy that invented Haarp and chemtrails and much more.

[link to www.gargoylemechanique.com]

CHEMTRAILS OVERVIEW by Jim Phelps
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Star Wars Stepping stones to weather control shielding and cover up. Subversion against the American People using national security. Ozone Hole leads to special measures for health and UV control, a national emergency. Introduction:

Part of The Methods, zero-point / scalar energy

Star Wars, Space Shields, UV, and the weather--->Founded on Fluoride.

Hello Chemtrail Interest persons,

Welcome to the DOEWatch Web page. This page is written by the person that invented the DOE´s biggest project on remediation for the ozone hole. This report is for enlightenment of the world and is already causing very much interest all around the Internet community. The inventions discussed here came from direct experience at the Oak Ridge National Lab and working the Q-cleared world of DOE´s nuclear weapons. This piece is about the origin of the Ozone Hole and the methods in use and being designed to attempt to fix what Man´s pollution has done to our weather and our environment.

Jim Phelps is the national lab person that discovered serious issues in terminal event theory of global systems, invented Star Wars weapons, forced the DOE to begin clean up of pollution damaging workers and communities, discovered the air pharmacology techniques [aka chemtrails], and forced the closure of K-25 and other DOE plants. My projects in the DOE and DOD are more classified than the H-bomb. This discussion is likely above the heads of many, but is presented to teach the world of our common problem. My Magnum-Opus greater good projects are about reclaiming heaven from hell, and restoring order from chaos.

Jim Phelps is the inventor of the HAARP project, the discover that the Earth´s magnetic field is an MHD generator, the discover of the critical factors of fluoide´s on health, the inventor for the titanium method to control fluoride G-proteins, the inventor of the PB method to block G-protein binding sites, the inventor for special formulation for J-8 jet fuels, the inventor of the Ba and Ti chemtrail methods, the inventor of the Star War´s Excalibur / Tungusga weapon, and many other critical national security projects. You will be getting a unique look behind some of the most classified, compartmented, and hidden projects in US history. His discoveries are sometimes called zero-point or scalar energy systems.

Jim Phelps´ unique knowledge of the ionosphere, knowledge of volcanic sciences, knowledge of the G-protein fluoride effect, and that of how religion interconnected these issues started a second Manhattan type project from his inventions and discoveries to deal with the national emergency he discovered. This discussion will give people a unique look at how the discoveries were made and what is going on now.

Jim Phelps discoveries related to old issues hidden in the Bible about the real issues of Noah and Moses. Jim Phelps invented systems that protect the health of animals and man on a scale that dwarfs what Moses attempted and he used the secrets of the Ark to design weapons and pharmacy methods the Pharos used in olden days. He found how the word pharmacy is closely related to the Pharisees and their mining.

All should easily notice that "Chemtrail" methods are designed to do one thing, conceal. Chemtrails are designed to offset the global warming measurements, so the Govt. can claim global warming does not exist. It really does exist. This expose is written in sections, as it takes about 30 mins. to read. Take your time reading and thinking about this information, as there is a lot to consider. When you get done you´ll be all the wiser in the ways of Govt. and the ways of corporate corruption. You´ll be better able to protect your health and your children´s. Then, take the time to pass this information along to your friends and neighbors, as they will come to thank you for it in time.

You may not think the topic of chemtrails affects your health, but let us see what you say after reading this piece. Keep in mind that in many areas where fluorides pollution is a problem, doctors have been told hands off and to say there is no problem. Hundreds of doctors violate the standards of care for their patients and commit malpractice daily over the cover up of this massive problem. This expose will tell you how and why.

Chemtrails are highly linked to Teller and Star Wars. Many persons find it difficult to imagine how something like Star Wars, the inventor of the hydrogen bomb, and the ozone hole are all connected. Edward Teller started the Star Wars project by essentially lying to Congress to get funding for a "make-work" project for weapons scientists and labs. The Sun, like the hydrogen bomb, is based on nuclear fusion. The ozone hole is even an artifact of pollution linked to strategic materials environmental cover up. We´ll explore this below.

There is much use of the word "shield" in the Star Wars Project, but let us not forget there are many other shields related to nuclear defenses. The Sun is a nuclear reactor, that emits all sorts of charged particles, electrons, lots of UV from hydrogen, and lots of hot body white light and IR. We forget that the Earth has multiple shields that protect us from these effects. This is the story of how nature and God shields us from radiation and how the Star Wars project entered into this shielding.

The Earth´s magnetic field shields us from charged particles and sets up the Van Allen radiation belts due to the magnetosphere that deflect these ions and electrons around the Earth, with only some hitting the polar regions. The magnetic field shield does not affect the Sun´s emissions that are waves. The visible light, UV, and IR come right on past this first shield. On Earth, the electrons getting past the magnetic field make the Northern Lights and ions hit the zone over the South pole. This effect charges up the Earth´s potential gradient like a large capacitor with plates being the plasma conductive ionosphere and the Earth´s surface. The ions hitting the atmosphere set up some turbulence effects and aid in lofting materials. These ions hit molecules like HF and HCl at the South Pole and make for UV generation from the hydrogen ion effects. The hydrogen is in play in the disruption of the ozone level. It is also in play for conversation radiation from the! Sun´s ions and UV.

The Earth´s Magnetic field causes the Sun´s charged particles to separate into distinct flows, much as how the method called "MHD" or "magneto-hydro-dynamics" works. MHD methods can be used to generate electric power from ions and electrons. MHD methods can take electric currents and produce motion in conductive gases or fluids. The Russians have silent subs that work with MHD methods of propulsion. It is this effect that causes the jet stream´s motion. Some of the HAARP experiments will investigate these effects. And HAARP research may also find a way to use this untapped MHD type power from the Sun, and in so doing lower the effects of the weather by reducing the Earth´s potential gradient. This research depends on making conductive layers to collect the charge at the North pole and use this for electric power. This was what Tesla envisioned. It is abundant free energy from the Sun, if it can be collected.

The Sun´s UV radiation is an ionizing radiation that causes health problems and the next shield to recall is the ionosphere / stratosphere. Here the ionizing radiation forms oxygen ions that combine with oxygen molecules to form ozone. Ozone is a bluish gas that absorbs the UV radiation and attenuates it, protecting animals and plants from UV ionizing radiation damage.

It is here that man is causing some problems with mother nature´s well balanced system. The ozone layer is highly reduced by processes that pull hydrogen into this region. Hydrogen is supposed to be rare in the upper atmosphere at only 1 PPM. Elements like fluorine and chlorine tend to support HF and HCl in the ionosphere, which causes disruption of ozone formation by making frozen crystals of water and hydrogen peroxide, which do not attenuate UV. The process in this thin region is one of aerosol particles and gases being driven by UV ionizing radiation.

The principle for lofting of HF and HCl into the atmosphere depends on their mass being close to that of oxygen and nitrogen. Water is dispersed in the lower atmosphere because of this effect, but water tends to freeze out at the cold high altitudes. The freezing point for HF and HCl is much lower than that for water. The freezing point does play a role in the ozone hole showing up more in the arctic spring and summer, as more material gets lifted higher. The ionization also forms OF and OCl, which also suspend well. Because of the mass difference of the chlorine atom, the chlorine compounds tend to wash down faster than fluorine compounds. Freon tends to stay in the air and build due to its´ non-reactivity, except at higher levels where UV causes decomposition into HF, HCl, OF, OCl, etc.

The best model for the lofting of these frozen solids in the atmosphere is that for colloid suspensions. We see how fine particles of metals like gold or silver can be suspended in liquids indefinitely. This same effect happens for air and the solids of HF, HCl, etc. Here the material that lofts the most is the mass closest to those of air, the HF and OF have the highest lofting factor in the thinnest atmosphere. This is the transport and suspension model for HF into the ozone layer region.

The HF and HCl that corrupted the ozone layer stems from both natural and man made events. Volcanoes help toss lots of the acids and particles into this region, and man via Freon mistakes added more. Man also adds some due to coal emissions and the formation of large storms, and even nuclear weapons added to the effects. The ionization in the ionosphere and the Earth´s magnetic field pulls the ions to the South Pole and the electrons to the North Pole. This is essentially a mini- Van Allen like effect from ions generated by the Sun´s UV. This causes a high level of fluorine and chlorine ions at the Southern pole [and thus HF and HCl].

Free hydrogen tends to float right off into space in this region and water can´t get there due to freeze out effects. It the process of the fluorine and chlorine effects that allow the hydrogen atoms to increase in the ozone regions. HF tends to float the best because its mass is close to air, and because it absorbs IR radiation causing heat lift.

Scientists at ORNL recognized this problem in the mid 1980´s and opted to take a two pronged approach to the problem. The first method was to go after the dominant source term, which was Freon, and eliminate its manufacture. The next significant source term was HF from coal thermal plants and this was tacked via methods called "Air Pharmacology." "Air Pharmacology" is the art of changing equilibrium status of steady state factors in the air and in human health.

In order to compensate for this effect the US has been doing some things to absorb the UV radiation. Man has added some other shields in the form of aerosols made of materials that absorb UV and others that reflect UV and IR. These type projects have taken on the term "chemtrails" in the public venues. Chemtrails come in several forms. The most exposed form is that of aluminum oxide using jet planes to release a near global reflective haze into the air. This exposure comes from Edward Teller´s 1997 LLNL paper disclosing the method of particle reflectance to make a global shield and a patent that discloses this being designed in 1990. See LLNL Report Number UCRL-JC- 12875 Titled "Global Warming and Ice Ages" and dated Aug. 1997. For a related technique see Hughes Patent: US5003186 circa 1990, which is connected to Project Cloverleaf. This report contains the information passed to Teller in 1986-87 from ORNL. The next related technique is the use of UV absorbing m! aterials based on titanium dioxide released in the air to replace the ozone filtering. These materials tend to react with HF and HCl and pull it out of air solution due to mass increase effects.

These chemtrail techniques relate to similar military techniques to spy on line of sight microwave communications. The military likes to see what information passes on line of sight phone systems. The method for doing this uses microwave techniques for isolators and use special compounds of barium, titanium, and iron sprayed into the microwave paths. Materials used in microwave guide and strip-line use similar compounds, and this method in the air pathway is similar. This is where the idea came from and its basic principle for operation. This allows the surveillance planes to wire tap the microwave beams and gain information. They can also insert information via this technique, or jam these communication system. This type technique also interferes with things like RADAR return energies and their ranges. It can also be used to create phantom RADAR images.

The US likes to hide its basic research and direction by using "dual- use technologies" and these RADAR techniques are one of the prime examples. These microwave systems techniques are more about how to get funding to do the studies to set up the real chemtrail directions of weather control, precipitation of toxic´s in the air and ionosphere.

The tricks to suspend these materials use various methods, from those of nano particles in air, to fine nano-filaments [filaments as fine as spiders webs and down feathers], to that of charging these particles and filaments so as to ride the Earth´s potential gradient field and stay aloft longer. All these designed to keep the material in suspension in the air.

The UV sprays use the same techniques to leave a spray of barium and titanium materials in the air. Plain titanium dioxide is an extremely good UV blocker. This brings on the last shield system, on the very surface or Earth and on the most vulnerable UV target organ. The US has arranged for titanium dioxide to be used in things like soap and detergent, which leaves one covered with a film of this material. One can usually see the paint like scum in showers from the sticky titanium dioxide build up, along with calcium. This same film is all over most persons skin and helps shield the skin from UV. One only has to look at all the places titanium dioxide has been incorporated in the last ten years to notice this intentional trend. It was put there to modify the UV damage to skin.

The body is very tolerant of titanium and it is not prone to set off the immune system inflammation response. Titanium is shown to be very useful in dentistry implants because of this effect. This is not so true for aluminum and barium compounds. Even LLNL studies turned down the use of Al in chem spray methods. The combined effects of these compounds with other pollutants can well cause lasting lung and health damage.

Titanium also has one more special use internally. Titanium is also being placed in the food chain, vitamins, deodorant etc. Many times it is included as a colorant. One of the concepts learned in the nuclear weapons toxic metals business was that some metals produced protective effects against other metals. In the bomb making business, one of those effects most studied applied to uranium. Uranium was seen to be able to compete in the body to avoid other metals like beryllium from forming complexes with fluoride. The beryllium-fluoride complex makes it much more dangerous because of the G-protein, Gq/11 process. Check the web pages of Andreas Schuld and "Bruha.com" for excellent collections of research on Gq/11 health effects. The effect is also very bad for aluminum-fluoride.

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wtng2fish
12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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Dr. P. and Maggot, breaktime is over so quit slacking off and get back to BS´ing, denying, and oh yes, insulting.
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12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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Wtng2fish, not even you could be this stupid. I take it you think this is funny. It could be...if it weren´t so overdone.
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Boy, if I had a nickel for every cock Ive sucked...
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12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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And I bet you,ve sucked a few Dr P.
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i´m dr. P short and stout.
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12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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fish do you accept that article as the gospel truth with NO question at all?

Seriously, it´s interesting stuff, but I would really like to think that you would investigate and verify something like that with as much rigor as you would investigate something that was contrary to your beliefs. Can you guarantee you do?

Anyway, he also has this page:

[link to www.doewatch.com]

It appears he is an electrical engineer, studied electrical engineering at the University of Tennessee with his thesis being in core reactor refueling electronics for breeder reactors.

It appears he worked at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Tennessee. He claims that he developed the concept of ´air pharmacology´ which seems to be another world for chemtrails. He also calls it ´scattering and geoengineering´

Interesting. He is a self-proclaimed whistle blower.

Okay dude, I have seen your side of this particular issue. Guess what? Not time yet for an opinion. Know why? As an OBJECTIVE investigator, my next task is to find any rebuttals to his claims. It may take a while longer for that.

I will then read the rebuttals to his claims, and then form an informed, objective opinion about them.

I just can´t in good conscience just accept what he says just because he says it. There is always two sides to every story. Let´s see if his stands up to non ideologically biased scrutiny.
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(too drunk to write)

I´m joining you octo.
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12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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Here´s to us 6679(not that I need any)cheers



and to wtng2fish too. He deserves it
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what about me? i wrote the Dr P song!
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12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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"and to wtng2fish too. He deserves it"

He certainly does, a real trooper.beer2
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Absolutely gorgeous today in Central Ohio. Not a CONtrail or chem-puff to be found.u2efine
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Yes you too 14814 and curious, and all of us who see stuff that are completely normal and naturalanon


Here´s to you allcheers
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Okay, so far in my investigation I am having issues with what Phelps actually did at Oak Ridge. Most of my information seems to lean toward he was basically a clean up person, and wasn´t in charge of much at all.

His claim to have ´invented chemtrails´ is suspect. To be honest he almost seems like another IDW. I´m beginning to doubt his credentials and authority for what he is saying.

It seems as well that Phelps has his hand in all sorts of conspiracy issues, not just chemtrails. He also seems to be a little racist, but that´s just my opinion. It my not have any bearing on anything.

Yea, I know, preliminary. And I am in over my head as far as the subject matter is concerned. But I know people who aren´t. To be continued...
DogFishHead
12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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Oh my. Here is what one person I know said about Phelps:

"Jim has made the rounds through the ranks of anti-nuclear activists. His finest hours are behind him, however. He and his cockamammie writings have been REJECTED BY EACH AND EVERY ACTIVIST GROUP IN THE NATION. Jim isn´t welcome to participate, to associate, or to assimilate with any of these groups. He is considered "poison", because he is quickly seen as the ´crank´ nutter he really is.

Having burned his bridges at all nuclear venues in the country, Jim´s latest play was to try and insinuate himself into the "chemtrails" hoax. It was a bold move and required a bold strategy.
Jim used a version of his old "nuclear whistleblower" thema, but was inventive(or foolish?) enough to go past the point of no return and actually claim to have invented "chemtrails" himself. From there, he fabricated a grand delusion in which he was bold enough to claim invention of HAARP as well!"

Yikes. Of course I don´t take this for the gospel truth, that would be hypocritical. It just is another side to the story.
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"His finest hours are behind him, however."

Yes, that says it all. How is it possible for a person to say that about another person? Nobody but ourselves know when we have our finest hours.
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Link please Dogfishead.

And cheers to you 14814, nice poem.
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12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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James E. Phelps studied electrical engineering at the University of Tennessee with his thesis being in core reactor refuelling electronics for breeder reactors. Much of his work was at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Tennessee (ORNL) which is funded by the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) where he worked in the areas of radiation detection and measurements and site remediation amongst other tasks.

He developed the concept of air pharmacology while working at ORNL. This concept entails "treating" the air with chemicals to mitigate and offset the effects of other toxic chemicals in the air such as hydrogen fluoride and chlorine. The purpose was to lessen the extremely toxic effects of fluoride pollution while not stating that a problem existed to the public. The entire art of pharmacology is about how to add one more toxic effect to mitigate another from industry or environment.

The chemtrail technique is basically air pharmacology - how to add one more pollutant that has some positive synergistic effect against another. Phelps developed this approach while looking at weapons plants worker health effects at ORNL.

Jim has been actively and openly involved in criticism of ORNL and DOE and much related material may be found by searching online and also at his environmental newsletter web site: DOEWatch. There you will find much on "air pharmacology" or "scattering" or "geoengineering" or, in other words, "chemtrails". In his web pages he openly makes the claim of being a whistle blower.

Jim was asked for some opinion on the Holmestead.ca Shield Project web page and he has provided this short "review":

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"I have been asked to comment on the earlier Holmestead.ca chemtrail question and answer web page regarding the: Shield Project. Here are my thoughts:

Sounds connected pretty close - sounds like one of the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory types.

LLNL (funded by the DOE) is where all the weather and toxic computer science happens in the U.S. They do the EIS [Environmental Impact Statements] for the wars and things. Most of the science and logic "Deep Shield" describes is real close - not perfect. Any errors in the web page version may simply be due to note taking and transcription. Some additional questions could have been asked such as relating to the radiation conversion ionization mechanism of the barium and fluoride.

Keep in mind that the "Star Wars" program and "chemtrails" overlap. The Star Wars program called "Excalibur" uses all the physics connected to the chemtrail effects. Excalibur is a nuclear pumped x-ray LASER system, whose basic operations are the same as those for the Sun´s radiation acting on the fluorides in the upper atmosphere. They are so close to each other that both of them use the "shield" term.

This "Deep" person speaks the exact lingo from ORNL in the 80´s that was used as the national security justification for the chemtrails and their close association to Star Wars and Ed Teller.

"Deep" refers to the need to keep all this mess secret so as not to panic the planet. What this does is allow them to manipulate things. We all know that for a problem of this magnitude, that in order to fix it, you involve all the peoples of the planet. This process would bring on real global cooperation and peace.

This is basically the time when all the peoples of the world deserve to know the problems and learn to work together. This is the real definition for greater good and bringing on global oneness.

You are headed in that direction of openness and accountability with your web site work and this is good."

Jim Phelps




For more background material on the chemtrail discussion here is a paper recommended by Jim Phelps that is in Acrobat pdf format on: "Global Warming and Ice Ages: Prospects for Physics-Based Modulation of Global Change."

It was prepared for submittal to the 22nd International Seminar on Planetary Emergencies Erice (Sicily), Italy August 20-23, 1997 by E. Teller, L. Wood and R. Hyde of Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

The paper presents suggestions based on "scatterers" that prevent a small fraction of solar radiation from reaching all or part of the Earth: Global Warming pdf - 221KB. The Acrobat pdf file will open in a separate window of your browser if you have the usual plug-in installed - it may be kept open, minimized or closed to return here.
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When all else fails, discredit by slinging mud. Stupid people will believe it.
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Go to it sleuths, I can´t debate this anymore. Try much work has piled up and time to crank out some URAR´S. Please keep Dr. P´s ego fed.
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"When all else fails, discredit by slinging mud. Stupid people will believe it."

Now hold on. There is a legitimate question about Phelps in my mind. He has a terrible reputation, even among some other chemtrail proponents.

I have been reading some of his posts on a few forums for the last hour.

I really think he is misrepresenting himself. Of course I can´t prove it, any more than you can prove he isn´t, but something if fishy here to me. He also seems to have a problem with the Jews.

I was reading an Oak Ridge blog also and those people seem to despise him.

An example of some of his posts on the ´oak ridger´, a message board for Oak Ridge:

"It is well known that the "K-25" plant code is linked to the gas diffusion process that was developed by the Kellogg Co. and the plant´s design used 25 percent of the Manhattan Project´s funding to make "product 25," or HEU.

The plants´ designators did not come from grid maps, but from issue linked to the plants. The projects designers spent 25 percent of the funds trying to keep the fluoride´s toxic effects contained, but failed to do this in the long run.

It is suggested that the three plants code name designators link to religion as the X in X-10 designation is linked to God and the Ten Commandments and the Y in Y-12 to Yahweh and the 12 disciples.

The K-25 designator has religious significance as well because this plant is highly related to fluoride´s toxic health effects and these highly linked to old world volcanic toxic effect problems.

Events in the old world from Noah landing on the largest land mass volcano in the world, Ararat, to the disappearance of Sodom and Gomorra from volcanic linked subsidence from the East African Rift Valley are fluorides related. The K-25 designator is linked to some of the most veiled religion issues.

Today, the extremely high fluoride emissions from the K-25 chemical processing plant are becoming known to the public and the associated health and environmental effects becoming highly suspect as the dominate cause of worker and community illnesses.

K-25 emitted hundreds of tons of fluorides and millions of pounds of freon into the atmosphere each year of its operation. Fluoride´s toxic effects are linked to the earliest of industrial emissions affecting health and agriculture.

Few persons recognize it, but the closing of the K-25 plant in the 1980s was highly determined by these toxic releases and the illness they caused.

One can read a technical article review report similar to one I did in the 1980s that prompted the closing of K-25 at URL: [link to members.aol.com]

This report´s message became the standard for toxic disease cause and effect in the 1980s in Oak Ridge that related directly to their extreme liabilities."
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I find that post interesting, and telling. Call it mudslinging, but are you not questioning him because he supports your opinion? To be truly objective, I believe it is even more important to question things you agree with than things you don´t.
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Oh, and fish, you are obviously used to Dr P. I can assure you that I will be nothing but respectful of your opinions, and you, whether I agree with you or not.
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DogFishHead, Phelps is talking gobbledegook. To pick just one example at random...he thinks that hydrogen flouride and hydrogen chloride are suspended in the upper atmosphere as colloidal-sized solid particles! The best you can say for him is that he´s not quite as ignorant and irrational as the Incredible Dim Wits...but that´s the faintest praise imaginable. You may ask how he managed to get a degree. Well, I´ve done a lot of university teaching, and I regret very much to say that I´ve seen more than one hopeless case given a degree just to get rid of him.
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wtng2fish it is better for all, that DogFishHead does his research, non of us, on either side of the chemtrail divide should have our beliefs written in stone.
Give DogFishHead a chance.
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"Well, I´ve done a lot of university teaching, and I regret very much to say that I´ve seen more than one hopeless case given a degree just to get rid of him"

Well that´s a scary thought.

I would have to agree, at least from my preliminary investigation Phelps seems to be a little unbalanced. My point earlier in the thread is that it is bad investigation to trust implicitly something somebody says unless they are indeed qualified to say it.

I think many people use other people´s words when they debate instead of using their own brains--and that applies to both sides of any issue. If you can´t paraphrase an idea in your own words you can´t say you understand your own arguments.
DogFishHead
12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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"wtng2fish it is better for all, that DogFishHead does his research, non of us, on either side of the chemtrail divide should have our beliefs written in stone."

Ah, another rational thinker. I agree. No matter what side of the issue you are on, you should never be afraid or reject opposing viewpoints.

That is the definition of objectivity.

I have no vested interest in ´debunking´ chemtrails. All I want is the truth.
Dr P
12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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"[A] little unbalanced" is putting it mildly! Did you notice his reference to Sodom and Gomorrah...again, just to pick something at random? (I note that, like the Incredible Dim Wits, he clearly thinks that correct spelling is unimportant.)
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12/08/2005 10:06 AM
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"[A] little unbalanced" is putting it mildly! Did you notice his reference to Sodom and Gomorrah...again, just to pick something at random? (I note that, like the Incredible Dim Wits, he clearly thinks that correct spelling is unimportant.)

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Yea, the Sodom and Gomorrah reference. It´s what made me post the thing in the first place. It hit me like a brick when I read it.

I can imagine how that went over in the ´Oak Ridger´ blog.





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