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God had no beginning, His creations do have a Genesis, which means 'creation.'


So the Bible is about God's Creations, not about God....
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Isn't the beginning of God's Creations...God? Is He not the beginning of everything?

Expand your mind. Maybe some literary courses will help.
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God had no beginning, His creations do have a Genesis, which means 'creation.'


So the Bible is about God's Creations, not about God....


Isn't the beginning of God's Creations...God? Is He not the beginning of everything?

Expand your mind. Maybe some literary courses will help.
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So again I ask, since God is the 'Beginning of Everything', then shouldn't the Bible begin with the word God ??

God, in the beginning -VS- In the beginning, God


Literacy is the POINT of the THREAD !!
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Is He not the beginning of everything?

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Everything but the Bible....
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God had no beginning, His creations do have a Genesis, which means 'creation.'


So the Bible is about God's Creations, not about God....


Isn't the beginning of God's Creations...God? Is He not the beginning of everything?

Expand your mind. Maybe some literary courses will help.


So again I ask, since God is the 'Beginning of Everything', then shouldn't the Bible begin with the word God ??

God, in the beginning -VS- In the beginning, God


Literacy is the POINT of the THREAD !!
 Quoting: Sugarelf


I didn't say literacy, I said LITERARY. You could learn more about writing techniques. All things come from God. Check out all of the figures of speech in the Bible, which was inspired by...God, and is full of Wisdom.

[link to levendwater.org]

Rise to a higher education! God beyond literacy.
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God had no beginning, His creations do have a Genesis, which means 'creation.'


So the Bible is about God's Creations, not about God....


Isn't the beginning of God's Creations...God? Is He not the beginning of everything?

Expand your mind. Maybe some literary courses will help.


So again I ask, since God is the 'Beginning of Everything', then shouldn't the Bible begin with the word God ??

God, in the beginning -VS- In the beginning, God


Literacy is the POINT of the THREAD !!


I didn't say literacy, I said LITERARY. You could learn more about writing techniques. All things come from God. Check out all of the figures of speech in the Bible, which was inspired by...God, and is full of Wisdom.

[link to levendwater.org]

Rise to a higher education! God beyond literacy.
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SAME THING !!

Rise ??

Education is a foundation
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Check out all of the figures of speech in the Bible, which was inspired by...God, and is full of Wisdom.

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YES !!

FIGURES of Speech !!

Check the numbers....

11:11
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God had no beginning, His creations do have a Genesis, which means 'creation.'


So the Bible is about God's Creations, not about God....


Isn't the beginning of God's Creations...God? Is He not the beginning of everything?

Expand your mind. Maybe some literary courses will help.


So again I ask, since God is the 'Beginning of Everything', then shouldn't the Bible begin with the word God ??

God, in the beginning -VS- In the beginning, God


Literacy is the POINT of the THREAD !!


I didn't say literacy, I said LITERARY. You could learn more about writing techniques. All things come from God. Check out all of the figures of speech in the Bible, which was inspired by...God, and is full of Wisdom.

[link to levendwater.org]

Rise to a higher education! God beyond literacy.


SAME THING !!

Rise ??

Education is a foundation
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blink


You are really confusing yourself.
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And your point?

If the Bible is a book about God, then why does it start with 'In the Beginning' ??
 Quoting: Sugarelf


Genesis 1 is about the creations of heavens and the earth. God, Jesus and the mystery of what was (is) already existed and actually Jesus helped make these things, using the powers and plans set-forth by God our Father...


Genesis 1 (New International Version)

Genesis 1
The Beginning
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
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And your point?

If the Bible is a book about God, then why does it start with 'In the Beginning' ??


Genesis 1 is about the creations of heavens and the earth. God, Jesus and the mystery of what was (is) already existed and actually Jesus helped make these things, using the powers and plans set-forth by God our Father...


Genesis 1 (New International Version)

Genesis 1
The Beginning
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
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In the beginning the Word already existed. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. He existed in the beginning with God.
— John 1:1–2
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"God created everything through him, and nothing was created except through him" (John 1:3). And Colossians 1:16 tells us, "For through him God created everything in the heavenly realms and on earth. He made the things we can see and the things we can't see— such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world. Everything was created through him and for him."
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the question was: Who wrote the Book of Genesis. The answer is No one know who the author of Genesis was. In fact most of the books of the Bible were written by unknown authors. There are only a very few excepts. What we call Identity thief today was extremely popular during the times that the Bible books were written. It was very common for people to copy others people work and claim authorship for it.
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the correct word is Pseudepigraphy. Also remember that the Bible is actually a collection of smaller books or epistles. In tracing the origin of the Bible, one is led to AD 325, when Constantine the Great called the First Council of Nicaea, composed of 300 religious leaders. Three hundred years after Jesus lived, this council was given the task of separating divinely inspired writings from those of questionable origin.
The actual compilation of the Bible was an incredibly complicated project that involved churchmen of many varying beliefs, in an atmosphere of dissension, jealousy, intolerance, persecution and bigotry.
At this time, the question of the divinity of Jesus had split the church into two factions. Constantine offered to make the little-known Christian sect the official state religion if the Christians would settle their differences. Apparently, he didn't particularly care what they believed in as long as they agreed upon a belief. By compiling a book of sacred writings, Constantine thought that the book would give authority to the new church
the question was: Who wrote the Book of Genesis. The answer is No one know who the author of Genesis was. In fact most of the books of the Bible were written by unknown authors. There are only a very few excepts. What we call Identity thief today was extremely popular during the times that the Bible books were written. It was very common for people to copy others people work and claim authorship for it.
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the question was: Who wrote the Book of Genesis. The answer is No one know who the author of Genesis was. In fact most of the books of the Bible were written by unknown authors. There are only a very few excepts. What we call Identity thief today was extremely popular during the times that the Bible books were written. It was very common for people to copy others people work and claim authorship for it.
 Quoting: all_the_kings_horses 619119


What caught my eye on this thread is something a good friend through God said to me when I was searching for truth. It went something like this:

Pick up that Bible. Turn to Genesis 1:1 and read what it says... (I read and pear up at him)

If that is false, you can throw the entire set of books away. Yes, it may have some historical value, but as per it's promise it would then be useless.

If that is true however, then WOW, you have in front of you the most important set of words ever published. You have an instruction book.



I in-turn spent a few years studying the Bible (still am of course) but during that time I was sure I could prove my various teachers and study mates wrong... Tried and tried, but the fact is, when you study with an open heart and true desire to understand the truths within the Holy Scriptures, it is not possible (without a reasonable doubt) to prove this masterpiece wrong.

In other words, the Word is vital to you and I.
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The book of Genesis is believed to have been written by Moses. That is more like a popular tradition rather than a truth. Interesting fact: the word Genesis cannot be found inside the Bible.


the correct word is Pseudepigraphy. Also remember that the Bible is actually a collection of smaller books or epistles. In tracing the origin of the Bible, one is led to AD 325, when Constantine the Great called the First Council of Nicaea, composed of 300 religious leaders. Three hundred years after Jesus lived, this council was given the task of separating divinely inspired writings from those of questionable origin.
The actual compilation of the Bible was an incredibly complicated project that involved churchmen of many varying beliefs, in an atmosphere of dissension, jealousy, intolerance, persecution and bigotry.
At this time, the question of the divinity of Jesus had split the church into two factions. Constantine offered to make the little-known Christian sect the official state religion if the Christians would settle their differences. Apparently, he didn't particularly care what they believed in as long as they agreed upon a belief. By compiling a book of sacred writings, Constantine thought that the book would give authority to the new church

the question was: Who wrote the Book of Genesis. The answer is No one know who the author of Genesis was. In fact most of the books of the Bible were written by unknown authors. There are only a very few excepts. What we call Identity thief today was extremely popular during the times that the Bible books were written. It was very common for people to copy others people work and claim authorship for it.

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the OP asked who wrote the first book of the bible. I studied the Book of Genesis alone for 2 years. What i discovered would unnerve you.So i will keep it to myself. But i believe its alot closer to the truth than what we are commonly taught by mainstream educators.
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i love this guy... too funny.
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And your point?

If the Bible is a book about God, then why does it start with 'In the Beginning' ??


Genesis 1 is about the creations of heavens and the earth. God, Jesus and the mystery of what was (is) already existed and actually Jesus helped make these things, using the powers and plans set-forth by God our Father...


Genesis 1 (New International Version)

Genesis 1
The Beginning
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.
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Yea yea sure, Has nothing to do with the question at hand....Why doesn't Genesis begin with the word GOD ??
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the OP asked who wrote the first book of the bible. I studied the Book of Genesis alone for 2 years. What i discovered would unnerve you.So i will keep it to myself. But i believe its alot closer to the truth than what we are commonly taught by mainstream educators.
 Quoting: all_the_kings_horses 619119


NO !!

HELLO ????


The OP asked:

WHY DOESN'T GENESIS BEGIN WITH THE WORD GOD ??
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the OP asked who wrote the first book of the bible. I studied the Book of Genesis alone for 2 years. What i discovered would unnerve you.So i will keep it to myself. But i believe its alot closer to the truth than what we are commonly taught by mainstream educators.
 Quoting: all_the_kings_horses 619119


Intriguing. Could you share a bit or start a new thread on this?

Thanks
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If the Bible is a book about God, then why does it start with 'In the Beginning' ??
 Quoting: Sugarelf


It's more accurate if rendered as "In the beginning OF Elohim creating the heavens and the earth".
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If the Bible is a book about God, then why does it start with 'In the Beginning' ??


It's more accurate if rendered as "In the beginning OF Elohim creating the heavens and the earth".
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Keeping Time as the primary element....
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The book of Genesis was written by Moses, as was all of the Torah (Genesis being the first book thereof. Moses, considered to be the greaest prophet next to the Saviour, uttered his first prophetic words in what the Catholic Vulgate and all all succeeding tranlations have intentionaly mistranslated for the verse reads:

The Earth Became Without Form, and VoidHe Did Not Create a Chaos

Strong's Exhaustive Concordance: Hebrew and Chaldee Dictionary:
"1961. hayah ... to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass."
"8414. tohuw ... to lie waste; a desolation (of surface)."


Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was [or became — see Gen. 2:7; Strong's: hayah] without form [Strong's: tohuw], and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

[Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became [Strong's: hayah] a living soul.]

Isaiah 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain [Strong's: tohuw] [RSV: he did not create a chaos], he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.


DECLARING THE END FROM THE BEGINNING, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Isaiah

zero is not the between the darkness and the light - this is an abomination of the catholic church, the modern day 'king of tyre' which changed the numeric laws of God which began with one - zero is a 'place holder' and denotes 'emptiness' - the nihilistic basis for Catholicism, Isalm, and all Oriental 'religion' - it is also the basisi for civilization and because of this evil, the eawrth will become without form and void - it is not Moses'remembereing' the way the earth was - that is a diversionary tactic from God's' command to His people two thousand years later, to remember their Creator....this is not for a command for the Jews only, but all of God's people for the command is found again in Revelation 14.


God sealed the order of creation before He even created it, the order of days was established 'from the beginning' - this included the day He rested and commands all of His Creation to rest from their work also - this day is Saturday, as evidenced by the unbroken cycle of the Jews...this day was changed on the calendar by the catholic church and is the agenda of CERN for if the order of the ordinances of the evenings and mornings can be broken, then there will be no more of the bloodline of David to site on the throne of God's government which is based on mercy -


Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

Then may also my covenant be broken with David my servant, that he should not have a son to reign upon his throne; and with the Levites the priests, my ministers.
Jeremiah

History and the the events to come shortly will prove that the inquisitional torture and evil of the catholic church disqualifies them as 'God on earth' for God sent His Son and then the Holy Spirit to witness of His light - the roman church et al witness of the solar light as do all the GER mens - Greek, Egyptian, and Roman idols...this is what this text is referring to:


I have even from the BEGINNING declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them. Isaiah

The destruction of the earth by the papacy and her harlot daughters is the the ending which has been declared from the beginning - it is not a thing from the past - this flow of Divine wisdom has been withheld from mankind for millenia, and countless souls have died beleiving that the spirit of the anti Christ was the Holy Spirit - it is no different today
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bump bump bump
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Thus saith the LORD; If ye can break my covenant of the day, and my covenant of the night, and that there should not be day and night in their season;

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Time again....
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whatever wrote that line
wanted to impose time
by putting a beginning
making eternity ending
the reason is simple
place power in invisble
then wield power by saying
authority from a non existing
thus impossible to deny
you are the main guy
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whatever wrote that line
wanted to impose time
by putting a beginning
making eternity ending
the reason is simple
place power in invisble
then wield power by saying
authority from a non existing
thus impossible to deny
you are the main guy
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that spell scares me....

thank you for your words of wisdom....
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the question was: Who wrote the Book of Genesis. The answer is No one know who the author of Genesis was. In fact most of the books of the Bible were written by unknown authors. There are only a very few excepts. What we call Identity thief today was extremely popular during the times that the Bible books were written. It was very common for people to copy others people work and claim authorship for it.


What caught my eye on this thread is something a good friend through God said to me when I was searching for truth. It went something like this:

Pick up that Bible. Turn to Genesis 1:1 and read what it says... (I read and pear up at him)
If that is false, you can throw the entire set of books away. Yes, it may have some historical value, but as per it's promise it would then be useless.

If that is true however, then WOW, you have in front of you the most important set of words ever published. You have an instruction book.



I in-turn spent a few years studying the Bible (still am of course) but during that time I was sure I could prove my various teachers and study mates wrong... Tried and tried, but the fact is, when you study with an open heart and true desire to understand the truths within the Holy Scriptures, it is not possible (without a reasonable doubt) to prove this masterpiece wrong.

In other words, the Word is vital to you and I.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 566027



word...

pear...the shape of time...
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thank you for your words of wisdom....
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Good work Sugarelf, Tkwasny, and 870455!
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God created the heavens and the earth in the beginning

11:11
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"By periods GoD created that which produced the Suns." literally periods = By headships, plural of B`RESHITH, hebrew. Head ships eh?
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And your point?

If the Bible is a book about God, then why does it start with 'In the Beginning' ??
 Quoting: Sugarelf


That particular book is about creation, thus "in the beginning."

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