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Is Christianity BLACK MAGIC?

 
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Let's make a list of similarities, Christianity has:

Communing with spirits such as "Jesus" and "the holy ghost" and asking for their guidance.

Channeling the above spirits.

The whole thing is based on Jesus as a human ritual blood sacrifice.

During the ritual called communion Christians symbolically drink human blood and eat human flesh.

Christians believe the spirits who inhabit their bodies give them special protection especially when they're summoned.

Christians will curse you (to hell) if they think you're sinning.

Christians believe in the Old Testament which is full of things that are seemingly clearly black magic such as:

Leviticus 14 God's law for lepers: Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird's blood. Wipe some blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times. That's all there is to it.

How much BLACKER can you get?
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agreed. especially in Catholicism. Just listen to mass one day and you will spot all the dark symbolism, ritual, and mental enslaving that goes on. shit is daaarrrrkkk.
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Idolatry is BLACK MAGIC

bowing down to cross "genuflection"

and the rest of its "strange ways"
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Only if those practicing Christianity are also engaging in trying or attempting to control others, in which case they are not practicing Christianity; they are then practicing witchcraft.
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Anyone who's interested in Leviticus 14 or wants a good laugh can read this:

[link to www.skepticsannotatedbible.com]
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Only if those practicing Christianity are also engaging in trying or attempting to control others, in which case they are not practicing Christianity; they are then practicing witchcraft.
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Oh yeah, Christianity has no record of ever trying to control others, eh?


OOOOOOOOF.


Crusades? Missionaries? God soldiers all trying to save the rest of us heathens? Political lobbying to force this idiotic childish belief system down every American's throat?

I believe I just got a tally mark.
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Only if those practicing Christianity are also engaging in trying or attempting to control others, in which case they are not practicing Christianity; they are then practicing witchcraft.
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I can't remember meeting a Christian who wants to control others. This is how IT works:

The real meanings of words and terms are often hidden in phonemes.

As above = As a BEE OF

As you're member of a FACTion or inSECT (you’re then corrupt – CORE – upped)...

So below = Sow BEE LOW

you try to recruit (re CREW it) those BEE LOW you to BEE IN your SECT.

This is the BEE-ORG (BORG).

It seems to me that when an individual gives their mind to a group (sect) they devolve into a mindless in-sect. This in-sect seems to always be analogous to a bee and their sects seem to always operate like beehives.

Quoting Alan Watt's book "Cutting Through Volume I":

"By how LOGOS (the WORD) is used, those following the conversation are brought to a conclusion. The conclusion BEE-comes their own. They are now INFORMED. The purpose is to usurp power from the individual and have him slave willingly towards "the betterment of humanity. " The beehive has always been the symbol of the perfect society in ancient Egypt, the Minoan culture and Freemasonry. Behave is from Beehive. Plato discussed the types of bees in relation to classes of people. The majority were workers who brought home the nectar. The drone priests sorted it into grades of honey. The best is Royal Jelly for themselves and the "Queen" while workers are given denaturalized refuse.”
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I can't remember meeting a Christian who wants to control others.
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I meant to say "I can't remember meeting a Christian who doesn't want to control others."
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agreed. especially in Catholicism. Just listen to mass one day and you will spot all the dark symbolism, ritual, and mental enslaving that goes on. shit is daaarrrrkkk.
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OK first of all The Catholic Church as it is today (and for hundreds of years now) is not the self same as Christianity.

The Catholics have and do do rituals and yes some are in deed black magic / priest craft, couched in what they call divine service.

Now the devil and his ilk are imitators of the real deal, having no power to create but having power to master certain things inside of creation. Satan set out to be as God and tried to set himself above the Lord. We commune with the Lord and the Holy spirit (being the spirit of the Living God).

In the beginning Adam communed with the Lord, to day we do call upon him. God is pleased to inhabit the prayers and praise of his people. It might be said that we call upon the name of the Lord and he is faithful to come, but that is a far different thing than summoning and invoking darkness.

If you are in a service where the Holy spirit is present if you have not received him then he may well cause you (or things about you) to have a sense of fear and dread, being that they are subject to his holy presence.

I will call upon the name of the lord the God of my salvation and I will be saved!
By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God. Hebrews: 11
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Only if those practicing Christianity are also engaging in trying or attempting to control others, in which case they are not practicing Christianity; they are then practicing witchcraft.



Oh yeah, Christianity has no record of ever trying to control others, eh?


OOOOOOOOF.


Crusades? Missionaries? God soldiers all trying to save the rest of us heathens? Political lobbying to force this idiotic childish belief system down every American's throat?

I believe I just got a tally mark.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757588


Here's your tally mark.

Lessee! We've got the homosexuals seeking to take away our freedom of speech. But THEY'RE not trying to shove anything down our throats are they? OH NO! They're merely promoting "TOLERANCE"!

LOL! What fun these witches are!

Then they want the right to sodomize our children! Yippee!

I'm loving these Satanic control freaks, aren't you????

OH, but the "majick" doesn't stop there, does it? OH NO!

Then we've got the GAIA lovers (oh, but they're not religious, are they?) trying to tax our every exhalation of breath!!!! OH JOY! No throat shovage there, is there, genius?


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFF!!!!!!


OOOOHHHHH! Save me from the EEEEVIL missionaries, bringing food, clothing and medicine to third world nations.

Those eeeeeevil missionaries are soooooo scary!
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I believe I just got a tally mark.
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?
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Quoting from another site:

If I still believed the Bible, it would convince me that God is evil, not good. He creates evil, he deceives, he tells people to lie, he lies himself, he rewards liars, he orders men to become drunk, he rewards the fool and the transgressor, he delivers a man into Satan's hands, he causes indecency, he spreads dung on faces, he orders stealing, he causes adultery, he orders the taking of a harlot, he orders a man to purchase his wife, he kills repeatedly, he orders killing, he degrades deformed people, he punishes bastards for being illegitimate, he punishes many for the acts of one, he punishes children for their father's sins, he supports human sacrifice, he orders cannibalism, he demanded 16,000 virgins to be given to soldiers as plunder of war, he orders gambling, he requires an unbetrothed virgin to marry her seducer, he orders horses to be hamstrung, he sanctions the degradation of enemies' women, he sanctions the beating of slaves to death, he requires a woman to marry her rapist, he ordered the cooking of food with human feces, he killed the wicked and the righteous, he intentionally gave out bad laws, he excused a murderer and promised him protection, he killed a man who refused to impregnate his widowed sister-in-law, he aided rather than punished a swindler, he discovers women's secret parts, he breaks up families, he orders the killing of children, he killed over 50,000 people because of a few, and he mandated unlimited punishment for limited sins...among other things!

I can document each one of these assertions with book, chapter, and verse from the Bible itself, and they are not taken out of context. (And I will send the documentation, if you request it.) The Bible blasphemes against God. Can you imagine a GOOD God pointing to the Bible and saying, "Yes, that's my Book. It describes me perfectly"? The God described in the Bible is a monster. Simply to read the biblical text without prejudice, Satan comes out looking better than God. In fact, a disinterested reader could very well conclude that Satan directed the writing of the Bible in order to discredit God.

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Only if those practicing Christianity are also engaging in trying or attempting to control others, in which case they are not practicing Christianity; they are then practicing witchcraft.



Oh yeah, Christianity has no record of ever trying to control others, eh?


OOOOOOOOF.


Crusades? Missionaries? God soldiers all trying to save the rest of us heathens? Political lobbying to force this idiotic childish belief system down every American's throat?

I believe I just got a tally mark.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 757588

;-)
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Only if those practicing Christianity are also engaging in trying or attempting to control others, in which case they are not practicing Christianity; they are then practicing witchcraft.
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Agreed. Manipulation is twisted, no matter what flag it flies.
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I can't remember meeting a Christian who wants to control others.


I meant to say "I can't remember meeting a Christian who doesn't want to control others."
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Now you have.
I dont give a shit what you do.
It's not up to me to judge you for you sins pal.

None of those things you mentioned have anything to do with Christianity.

The old 'witch doctor' concoctions do seem a bit strange but they would not be in the book if they didnt work.

Try again christurd guy.
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It's not up to me to judge you for you sins pal.
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Jesus said "Do not judge" you just wronged me according to your own beliefs.

None of those things you mentioned have anything to do with Christianity.
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The things in the original post are mainstream Christianity. You may follow a sect where what you just said is true but that would be highly unusual.

The old 'witch doctor' concoctions do seem a bit strange but they would not be in the book if they didnt work.
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The only way you'd know that is if you tried those things and verified for yourself that they work.

Anyway, you're calling them "'witch doctor' concoctions" yourself and since believing in the Old Testament is part of Christianity...

You just admitted Christianity is BLACK MAGIC.
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<< The teaching of Hell is the most abominable, Satanically inspired teaching ever perpetrated upon mankind. It has caused more harm to human beings than any other invention. Hell is Satan's best shot at marring the glorious image of Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world.

Much of the terrorism in the world comes through Christians who have been taught a false concept of God. They have become like the god they have been taught to worship -- an utter failure! They, themselves are terrorized and they go about terrorizing others thinking they are just "evangelizing." >>
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bump ...for truth!
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no, it is just the workings of 'this world' are BM
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Thread: Drinking blood and Eating flesh in church - The real reason
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Yes. very yes.
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Actually, it's more like black magic is Christianity. Ritual magic in the Western mediaeval tradition adopted a lot of the trappings of Christian theology and demonology, which in turn inherited from the ancient Jewish system of blood sacrifice as atonement. The magic practices you'll find in Hermetic orders or in the Goetia are far more recent than the Christian traditions they ape.
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Let's make a list of similarities, Christianity has:

Communing with spirits such as "Jesus" and "the holy ghost" and asking for their guidance.

Channeling the above spirits.

The whole thing is based on Jesus as a human ritual blood sacrifice.

During the ritual called communion Christians symbolically drink human blood and eat human flesh.

Christians believe the spirits who inhabit their bodies give them special protection especially when they're summoned.

Christians will curse you (to hell) if they think you're sinning.

Christians believe in the Old Testament which is full of things that are seemingly clearly black magic such as:

Leviticus 14 God's law for lepers: Get two birds. Kill one. Dip the live bird in the blood of the dead one. Sprinkle the blood on the leper seven times, and then let the blood-soaked bird fly away. Next find a lamb and kill it. Wipe some of its blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle seven times with oil and wipe some of the oil on his right ear, thumb and big toe. Repeat. Finally find another pair of birds. Kill one and dip the live bird in the dead bird's blood. Wipe some blood on the patient's right ear, thumb, and big toe. Sprinkle the house with blood 7 times. That's all there is to it.

How much BLACKER can you get?
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HOW MUCH DUMBER CAN YOU GET?







You seem to have the inability to distinguish good from evil, perhaps it is from your doctrine of devils that you have adopted, ignorant Joo.
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Only if those practicing Christianity are also engaging in trying or attempting to control others, in which case they are not practicing Christianity; they are then practicing witchcraft.



Oh yeah, Christianity has no record of ever trying to control others, eh?


OOOOOOOOF.


Crusades? Missionaries? God soldiers all trying to save the rest of us heathens? Political lobbying to force this idiotic childish belief system down every American's throat?

I believe I just got a tally mark.


Here's your tally mark.

Lessee! We've got the homosexuals seeking to take away our freedom of speech. But THEY'RE not trying to shove anything down our throats are they? OH NO! They're merely promoting "TOLERANCE"!

LOL! What fun these witches are!

Then they want the right to sodomize our children! Yippee!

I'm loving these Satanic control freaks, aren't you????

OH, but the "majick" doesn't stop there, does it? OH NO!

Then we've got the GAIA lovers (oh, but they're not religious, are they?) trying to tax our every exhalation of breath!!!! OH JOY! No throat shovage there, is there, genius?


OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOFFF!!!!!!


OOOOHHHHH! Save me from the EEEEVIL missionaries, bringing food, clothing and medicine to third world nations.

Those eeeeeevil missionaries are soooooo scary!
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LOL, a little common sense goes a long way. How did our youth become so corrupted and brainwashed that they think the good book and the good lord is evil.
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

C. S. Lewis
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see this is how it begins. you people hate on christians and call them terrorists and murderers and a cult.

then it becomes socially acceptable to treat a christian any old way you feel like.

then you can go to a rally and build up a whole following of christian haters.

then it becomes so that christians have to hide their love of God so as not to be discriminated against and lose their jobs. (already happened in science circles)

next it will be internment camps and exterminations.

the persecution of the christians just as foretold in revelations.

Matthew 10:22 (New International Version)
22All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.


how does it feel to be on the wrong side and becoming a brainless, heartless tool of the devil.

Last Edited by Neesie on 01/24/2010 09:26 AM
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

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you have had at least 8 five star ratings on this thread. which means the majority agrees with you.

only 1 one star vote.

see how easy it is becoming to be a hater.
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

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Let me tell you a little something about following the teachings of christ.

It makes me be kind to people. I listen to peoples troubles and try to help them the best way i can. I help people that are hurting if it is only to listen.

this morning i had a co-worker. (an old black man that works for the cleaning crew at my job) on his day off bring me a hardees biscuit and a coffee. he knew i was stuck up here in a guardshack all day for 12 hours and can't leave it. this man makes six dollars an hour when he works and doesnt even clear 8 hours a day.

he spent his hard earned money on gasoline and my breakfast just because I am good to him.

this is one of the ways that God gives us happiness. we are always being rewarded for Good ways.
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

C. S. Lewis
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The beehive has always been the symbol of the perfect society in ancient Egypt, the Minoan culture and Freemasonry. Behave is from Beehive. Plato discussed the types of bees in relation to classes of people. The majority were workers who brought home the nectar. The drone priests sorted it into grades of honey. The best is Royal Jelly for themselves and the "Queen" while workers are given denaturalized refuse.”
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You are right OP.

WAY TO BEE!
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The beehive has always been the symbol of the perfect society in ancient Egypt, the Minoan culture and Freemasonry. Behave is from Beehive. Plato discussed the types of bees in relation to classes of people. The majority were workers who brought home the nectar. The drone priests sorted it into grades of honey. The best is Royal Jelly for themselves and the "Queen" while workers are given denaturalized refuse.”


You are right OP.

WAY TO BEE!
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LOL, Awww, leave him Bee.
.A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.

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The beehive has always been the symbol of the perfect society in ancient Egypt, the Minoan culture and Freemasonry. Behave is from Beehive. Plato discussed the types of bees in relation to classes of people. The majority were workers who brought home the nectar. The drone priests sorted it into grades of honey. The best is Royal Jelly for themselves and the "Queen" while workers are given denaturalized refuse.”


You are right OP.

WAY TO BEE!


LOL, Awww, leave him Bee.
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"I am the bee-ginning and the end of all things, honey."

But really though I agree with OP that today's Christ worship and mass-ery is all about virgin sacrifice and cannibalism, I still believe in Jesus the Good King.

Notice how the Watchtower church, for example, claims to be Pope-haters and so their 'modern communion' is all about _denying_ the sacraments.

So although they do not openly speak to the human sacrifice message which the Pope and Co. are all about, their doorknocking members are actually living-slave-sacrifices to the Watchtower church --so it is still human sacrifice.

When Jesus had the last supper and said those things, he was referring to Moses' attempts to convince his ancestors not to throw their babies into the fire, or eat them, as they had done. Moses, being the most recent Good King, had to convince the lava dwellers of the region not to appease the volcano gods with child sacrifice (Molech).

So essentially Jesus was having his last supper to explain to his followers that killing humans and having cannibal rituals is some stupid shit and that they should just have a nice meal and think of him, rather than being child-killing asshole as Moses' lava-worshiping molech ancestors had been.

But both the Pope and the modern occultists like followers of CTR still use the sacrifice paradigm, because they have nofaith in god. People have rituals and participate in them because they feel dis-empowered and weak within themselves.

Essentially if you worship a God of sacrifice, you are missing the point of the whole age of Pisces. Like the Jews got left in the age of Aries (Ram) and the Egyptians are from the age of Taurus (Bull), today's Christian will be similarly left behind in the age of Aquarius (Flood Bearer) due to their need for sacrifice and their lack of knowledge about Earth and the Sun and Moon and stars.

Surely since the modern Christian occultists believe the virgin sacrifice of Jesus was real, then they will never, ever, ever, release that idea.

If a mob "stones" a person to death, righteously, and they feel that person had to die (as in the short story "The Lottery") then they can never break with that belief or else they will see themselves as murderers for participating in the stoning. Get it? Ties that bind, would be another term for it.
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Is Christianity Black Magick? wine Go drink some wine, I mean Jesus's blood. pope2





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