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okay, the charts showing that either the moon or center of the galaxy are at play here, in the shaking of the earth around Yellowstone:

During 2-4 pm, the quakes are at their worst, the moon and galaxy center is above that region at that time. During 2-4 am, almost exactly 12 hours later, those objects are pulling on the volcano from the other side of the planet.

Here are the charts For 2010, January 14-19:

14th, swarm started around 3-6pm
[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

15th, first eq 2:11 am, second swarm begans in earnest 5:15pm
[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

16th, minor quakes begin 2:18am, swarms begin 3:20pm
[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

17th, no noticeable eq's at early morn, major swarm picks up 1:40pm, but center mass is 4:40pm
[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

18th, center mass of early morn quakes, 3:11am, center mass of evening quakes, 1:04pm
[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

19th, center mass of early morn quakes, @ 2:30am, center mass of evening quakes, @ 3:30pm.
[link to www.seis.utah.edu]

The chart pages shift by date every day, I don't know why, but they do, ask the University of Utah. Anyway, please make allowances for that. :)

Because the swarms are increasing, it is getting harder to pin point a center for the events. However, I believe this points to a general 12 hour interval, and we can assume there will be quakes early morn tonight around 1-3am, and a general mass of quakes around 3-6pm tomorrow.

Is this caused by a gravitational pull of the moon? At night, the moon and galaxy are generally over that area at that time. And in the day, the moon and galaxy is generally behind the planet, opposite of Yellowstone.

But then, the sun is generally overhead during the day, pulling gravitationally on the crust, thus, the earth is in a tidal tug of war between the sun and the moon and galactic center around the time of day the Yellowstone quakes are the strongest. Yet, the sun is opposite those two. So shouldn't they be balancing themselves out? Or is the tug of war too strong? Are we entering the galactic event horizon?

Could we be getting closer to the galactic rift, the event horizon of our Galaxy's black hole center? Is 2012 Mayan prediction real?

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Another theory on why Yellowstone might be more active with the sun overhead is that as we begin to go through the galactic crunch, and the planet Earth and other planets are somewhat squeezed, that the sun is also squeezed. And if the sun becomes denser because of being compacted by the gravity in the galactic plane we are about to go through, then it could cause the core of the sun to have more gravitational pull on other objects, including us, and our tides.

In fact, it could very well be, that the moon has increased its gravity as well, and this would explain the higher than usual tides last year.

Also, Yellowstone has been getting active during the beginning days of January. Well, January 4th is when the Earth is closer to the sun. Kind of interesting, no?
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Yes, interesting!

Not probable that all these (almost) periodic events are caused by the internal dynamics of Earth, otherwise they would probably have periods different from 1 year.

A period of 1 year naturally correlates with the position of distant stars in the sky (therefore, the Galactic Center) and the closest orbital distance from the Sun is another natural factor to imply more gravitational pull.

Planet X could also be a factor but we simply don't know where it is.

By coincidence, some say that the most probable location of a possible solar companion (brown dwarf) is close to the direction of the GC in the sky (Sagittarius constellation).

According to this studies the solar companion would be causing increasing perturbations on planets in recent months.
They should make an updated report next Feb,

Thread: spanish astronomers has found out, that NASA make a mistake. (Page 11)
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Yes, interesting!

Not probable that all these (almost) periodic events are caused by the internal dynamics of Earth, otherwise they would probably have periods different from 1 year.

A period of 1 year naturally correlates with the position of distant stars in the sky (therefore, the Galactic Center) and the closest orbital distance from the Sun is another natural factor to imply more gravitational pull.

Planet X could also be a factor but we simply don't know where it is.

By coincidence, some say that the most probable location of a possible solar companion (brown dwarf) is close to the direction of the GC in the sky (Sagittarius constellation).

According to this studies the solar companion would be causing increasing perturbations on planets in recent months.
They should make an updated report next Feb,

Thread: spanish astronomers has found out, that NASA make a mistake. (Page 11)
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There's only one problem with that; Planet X doesn't exist!
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Yes, interesting!

Not probable that all these (almost) periodic events are caused by the internal dynamics of Earth, otherwise they would probably have periods different from 1 year.

A period of 1 year naturally correlates with the position of distant stars in the sky (therefore, the Galactic Center) and the closest orbital distance from the Sun is another natural factor to imply more gravitational pull.

Planet X could also be a factor but we simply don't know where it is.

By coincidence, some say that the most probable location of a possible solar companion (brown dwarf) is close to the direction of the GC in the sky (Sagittarius constellation).

According to this studies the solar companion would be causing increasing perturbations on planets in recent months.
They should make an updated report next Feb,

Thread: spanish astronomers has found out, that NASA make a mistake. (Page 11)


There's only one problem with that; Planet X doesn't exist!
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OK, OK... Have you read the thread I linked?
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Shift change at HAARP?
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this has a lot to do with the sun, little to do with planet x
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this has a lot to do with the sun, little to do with planet x
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We're in system of many bodies, all have a part to play.
IF planet-X is there (somewhere) and is as large as some people say it is it could have an important effect as it only comes along (close to Earth) very rarely.

This would be an important source of temporally "localized" disruptions. The swarms of Yellowstone "could be" an evidence of such disruptions.

The Sun, on the other hand, has been always there day after day, year after year. Why would its presence be more important now?

Another possible factor is the alignment with GC. This is "new" too.

I believe we should look for something out of the ordinary that could be happening now that could trigger new events or enhance known effects.
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Well, its not just Yellowstone that is showing the 12 hour pattern of increased activity. I've been looking at CERI charts for the New Madrid, and they too show a similar pattern, though weaker. And they seem to an hour to an hour and 30 minutes earlier than the Yellowstone increases. Thus, it might just be the sun, or whatever is behind or in the general direction of the sun.

Here is a link to the CERI sites, Malden is a good graph to compare:

CERI charts:

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]

Malden:

[link to folkworm.ceri.memphis.edu]


I want to discuss the idea that the sun's gravity increases through the galactic crunch...


I've seen pictures and videos showing what effect a strong gravitational force coming close to the Earth would have on the oceans, causing them, in some cases to form a tide 5 miles high. I think that is a little too much, and one must remember that the land would also be lifted a little during such a fly-by. But what if the sun's gravity really does increase through the event horizon of the galaxy? Would it not increase the sun's gravity and cause higher tides on Earth? The moon's gravity would also increase, but then, so would the Earth's. However, of these mentioned objects, which one's gravity would be affected the most?

I believe it would be the sun. While Earth and the moon seem to be denser than the sun, currently, there is the consideration that they are already packed down tight, and possibly have reached a level of compactness that would take much, much more pressure to push them over the threshold of a greater gravity than they already have. But the gasses on the sun, they are different, they are thin. Yet the magnetic field on the Sun is much, much greater on the sun than on the other planets. Why? Is it the density? Is it the core material? Or is it the plasma?

I believe it is the plasma. If the plasma is squeezed by gravity of an event horizon, it might crush it more, because it is more pliable, thus it's core could conceivably be able to become much more denser than the planets, and thus its gravity become stronger through the same event horizon than them as well.

The Mayans, and the bible, In Isaiah 30, hint of a fiery flying serpent. What if the serpent is the rocks in the event horizon, and the fire/feathers, are the solar flare that comes from the sun as it is bombarded by the space debris? In Revelation it says this:

Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Why list this? Because, it said the "third" part of each object. I remind you that when objects bombard a planetary body, say, from the south poles, which is the direction, supposedly, that the event horizon is located, those objects would devastate the polar region, and as they got closer and closer to the equators, the atmosphere and gases would begin to deflect them, they would bounce off more and more, so that, in general, you'd get only a third of the planetary body totally devastated. And we assume some times, that the rift is heavily populated with stones and ice chunks, but the truth is, it is probably rather thin. For if it was thicker, we would see evidence of it sooner, for light would have a harder and harder time getting around the objects, just as your hand, as it gets closer to your face blocks more and more of the scenery behind it.

What I am saying is that we don't have to have Nibiru for these things to occur. Nibiru, if it does exist, might be a broken up comet. And it might not have as much gravity as we think, for Nibiru might just be in an orbit that has the same period as the event horizon fly through, or, one that is half that period. The legends attributed to it might be just legends after all.

In conclusion, the sun and galaxy can do all that Nibiru is claimed to do, and may be beginning its transition through the event horizon as we speak, for the Earth's crust is responding to the sun more and more as 2012 approaches, and during a time of year when our place in our orbit puts the planet closer to the sun, January.

If this theory is true, then there will come a time when the earthquakes on Earth peak at noon, for every location, no matter where we are in our orbit. That is what we need to look out for.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I actually do value your input, and thank you, guys, and gals, for responding to my previous post. SmileyGlas
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Nice work, Nylee.


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cant find the other thread for some reason... but there was another 3.7
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ok two almost 4.0 earthquakes in less the 30minutes... hello??
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ok two almost 4.0 earthquakes in less the 30minutes... hello??
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nothing is updating... wtf?
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it was swell... wouldn't of ordered the eggplant though....
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Yeah. The big one won't come just yet. Most likely gonna see some action though pretty soon. My guess. If planet X is for real, as it nears, expect more cataclysm upto and including the Wrath of God being poured out on the entire earth (according to Book of Revelation). Perhaps this is affecting the sun and moon, subsequently the earth. Perhaps HAARP and other technologies are being created to combat the inevitable effects of this approaching deathbringer. Or perhaps vice versa, the deathbringer will deal with man and his technologies. Or instead, maybe the elite are using weather weapons and geological weapons against us while feeding us all manner of psyops including contemporary scriptural anecdotes to placate a portion of the public while promoting oppositely the notion that Gaia is unhappy with mankind and our overconsumption. God only knows what to think any more.

Times ahead should be interesting to say the least.

1948 (budding of the fig tree - Israel becomes a nation).
Add 70 yrs
(not one generation shall pass until the fulfillment of the end-times prophecies >> 70 yrs considered one generation by many biblical scholars)

Folks, that would give us till 2018 or so.

We shall see.
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Yeah. The big one won't come just yet. Most likely gonna see some action though pretty soon. My guess. If planet X is for real, as it nears, expect more cataclysm upto and including the Wrath of God being poured out on the entire earth (according to Book of Revelation). Perhaps this is affecting the sun and moon, subsequently the earth. Perhaps HAARP and other technologies are being created to combat the inevitable effects of this approaching deathbringer. Or perhaps vice versa, the deathbringer will deal with man and his technologies. Or instead, maybe the elite are using weather weapons and geological weapons against us while feeding us all manner of psyops including contemporary scriptural anecdotes to placate a portion of the public while promoting oppositely the notion that Gaia is unhappy with mankind and our overconsumption. God only knows what to think any more.

Times ahead should be interesting to say the least.

1948 (budding of the fig tree - Israel becomes a nation).
Add 70 yrs
(not one generation shall pass until the fulfillment of the end-times prophecies >> 70 yrs considered one generation by many biblical scholars)

Folks, that would give us till 2018 or so.

We shall see.
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Sir, if you knew what the elite think, you'd cry your heart out for them. Check out saturnalia cults on youtube, there is a great video series of them there.

As for harp, I think it is being used against us, though I imagine it started out for the opposite reason.

Remember this, my fellow xians, Satan tells the elite that he thinks they are special, and that they will live forever with him in a kind of paradise. He tells us that we are weak and fools and that we do not deserve to live. He teaches them survival of the fittest.

So what does satan want? To destroy us. But the elite do not understand, satan's wrath will not be finished when we are destroyed. No, in fact, his last act of revenge against God will be to finish off mankind, to the very last one. The anger of satan has never had anything to do with calling followers or fighting a war in heaven. The anger of satan has one thing in mind... our absolute destruction.

now, when I say satan, I don't mean a demon by that name, though who knows, there could be such a creature. I know that an earth king once had that name, and I know that there are stories and legends of a group of spirit beings that went under that name.

I believe that the spirit world is as rich and as multilayered as our oceans are. What we call angels, well, some of them really could be aliens. However, I've seen no proof of this, nor of Nibiru, but I don't totally discount either one. Honestly, I don't.

I do believe that there is an evil force out there trying to depopulate the earth, and that instead of them doing it, God is going to do it for them, only, it will be the opposite people who are depopulated from the earth, instead of the weak and poor, it will be the proud and rich.

I believe we are in the last days, and that date up above of 2018, well, look on google for the next Jewish year of Jubilee. Many claim it will be around 2016-2018. Major things have happened to Israel around that festival year throughout history.

Thank all of you for reading my above explanation for the EQ's and Yellowstone swarms.

Good luck everyone. :)
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2.6 in the Canary Islands. Tidal Wave doom with your magma sir?
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Good info.

Have my eye on the main yella thread, so only check outside of it occasionally.

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Well, its not just Yellowstone that is showing the 12 hour pattern of increased activity. I've been looking at CERI charts for the New Madrid, and they too show a similar pattern, though weaker. And they seem to an hour to an hour and 30 minutes earlier than the Yellowstone increases. Thus, it might just be the sun, or whatever is behind or in the general direction of the sun.
.................
But what if the sun's gravity really does increase through the event horizon of the galaxy? Would it not increase the sun's gravity and cause higher tides on Earth? The moon's gravity would also increase, but then, so would the Earth's. However, of these mentioned objects, which one's gravity would be affected the most?

I believe it would be the sun.
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As far as our present scientific knowledge goes, only an increase in mass would be able produce an increase in the gravitational field and there seems to exist no source of mass coming from the Center of the Galaxy (CG).
Therefore the radiation from CG cannot increase Sun's or any planets gravity.



While Earth and the moon seem to be denser than the sun, currently, there is the consideration that they are already packed down tight, and possibly have reached a level of compactness that would take much, much more pressure to push them over the threshold of a greater gravity than they already have. But the gasses on the sun, they are different, they are thin. Yet the magnetic field on the Sun is much, much greater on the sun than on the other planets. Why? Is it the density? Is it the core material? Or is it the plasma?

I believe it is the plasma.
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The matter in the center of the Sun is packed at a VERY high pressure and temperatures, much more than what can be found at the center of the planets.
Even if you consider the "Electric Sun" model

[link to www.electric-cosmos.org]

I believe that Sun's gravity cannot be altered by the action of the GC, although its magnetic influence (plasma related) could.




If the plasma is squeezed by gravity of an event horizon, it might crush it more, because it is more pliable, thus it's core could conceivably be able to become much more denser than the planets, and thus its gravity become stronger through the same event horizon than them as well.
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Gravity is related with total mass not only density. A small object with very high density and a large object with very low density can have the same gravitational effect on distant objects if their total masses are the same.



The Mayans, and the bible, In Isaiah 30, hint of a fiery flying serpent. What if the serpent is the rocks in the event horizon, and the fire/feathers, are the solar flare that comes from the sun as it is bombarded by the space debris? In Revelation it says this:

Rev 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise.

Why list this? Because, it said the "third" part of each object. I remind you that when objects bombard a planetary body, say, from the south poles, which is the direction, supposedly, that the event horizon is located, those objects would devastate the polar region, and as they got closer and closer to the equators, the atmosphere and gases would begin to deflect them, they would bounce off more and more, so that, in general, you'd get only a third of the planetary body totally devastated. And we assume some times, that the rift is heavily populated with stones and ice chunks, but the truth is, it is probably rather thin. For if it was thicker, we would see evidence of it sooner, for light would have a harder and harder time getting around the objects, just as your hand, as it gets closer to your face blocks more and more of the scenery behind it.

What I am saying is that we don't have to have Nibiru for these things to occur. Nibiru, if it does exist, might be a broken up comet. And it might not have as much gravity as we think, for Nibiru might just be in an orbit that has the same period as the event horizon fly through, or, one that is half that period. The legends attributed to it might be just legends after all.
 Quoting: Nyhee7

Here is an interesting "Wormwood" description from another thread,
[link to www.millenniumprophecy.com]

it refers to the presence of a brown dwarf companion to the Sun that would pass soon and *possibly* cause the upheavals
described on the bible.

It's interesting but it has many gaps especially to account for orbital perturbations of the inner solar system. It also predicted an strong EQ for the middle of 2009 that, as we know, didn't happen.

But it's a quite sophisticate model and could help to put our ideas in a better perspective.

What I am saying is that we don't have to have Nibiru for these things to occur. Nibiru, if it does exist, might be a broken up comet. And it might not have as much gravity as we think, for Nibiru might just be in an orbit that has the same period as the event horizon fly through, or, one that is half that period. The legends attributed to it might be just legends after all.

In conclusion, the sun and galaxy can do all that Nibiru is claimed to do, and may be beginning its transition through the event horizon as we speak, for the Earth's crust is responding to the sun more and more as 2012 approaches, and during a time of year when our place in our orbit puts the planet closer to the sun, January.

If this theory is true, then there will come a time when the earthquakes on Earth peak at noon, for every location, no matter where we are in our orbit. That is what we need to look out for.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I actually do value your input, and thank you, guys, and gals, for responding to my previous post. SmileyGlas
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I believe that if don't consider the existence of a large body influence (Nibiru, PX, brown dwarf, you name it...) it's not possible to make the predictions of the bible to come true in the near future.

I also believe that if PX cannot be seen by the common amateur astronomer until the end of this year this will probably mean that it is *not there* and 2012 will come and go without anything "apocalyptic" happening.

There are other apocalyptic scenarios that don't use Nibiru, and the most famous is the galactic superwave of Paul LaViolette.
[link to www.etheric.com]

You need also to consider that the Sun moves in the sky along the line of the zodiacal signs. Therefore it is approximately aligned with the CG only between Dec/15 and Jan/15 when it crosses the Sagittarius constellation.

My personal opinion: there are more than purely 3 "dimensional" gravitational and magnetic forces acting on the solar system at present.

The periodicity observed in some phenomena like magnetosphere disruptions and EQs indicate an external force from the (approximate) direction of the CG, see for example the following thread,
Thread: spanish astronomers has found out, that NASA make a mistake. (Page 11)

But I'm not totally certain that we can understand what is happening in its entirety.

Let's see what the Starviewer team has to add to this discussion on their report of next Feb.
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Also, Yellowstone has been getting active during the beginning days of January. Well,

January 4th is when the Earth is closer to the sun. Kind of interesting, no?

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Yes, it IS interesting.

For example, the twin quakes of Indonesia in 2009 (of mags 7.5 and 7.6) and the great quake of Solomon Islands this year (mag 7.1) all happened in Jan/03.

Besides, the increased activity in the magnetosphere that also happened last year and the "swarms" of Yellowstone repeating the patter of last year too, greatly suggest IMO some "external force" coming from Sagittarius.
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You make some valid points, yet I must disagree with you that only mass and not density can make gravity. Consider this. If you take the planet earth, and put one inch between every atom in all directions, which would make the earth possibly the same volume of the sun if not greater, the gravity of that field would be that of a cloud, not of the planet earth. Why is that?

Superconducters can thwart the earth's gravity after cooled, though we are finding materials that can do that with induced currents at warmer and warmer temps, why did the process we discover come about only when the materials are colder? Being colder, are they not more condensed? Don't the molecules, even in Iron begin to shake more and more and expand the metal as they get hotter? Would they not condense then, when they get colder?

I know, we are talking about an area of physics where there is still a gaping hole in knowledge. But it is my belief that it is not mass that brings about gravity, but the compactness of that mass.

And though the sun has great pressure inside of it, the core of our sun is actually pressuring the surface of the sun outward, not the surface pressuring inward. Our planet's surface presses down on our core. The sun's core presses outwardly. Though, some claim the magnetic fields inside and at the surface of the sun kind of put a squeeze back down onto the center, there is a kind of push pull thing going on there.

My theory is that as we approach the event horizon of our galaxy, which gravitationally wise, has very little mass in it considering its gravitational influence, another fact that supports my theory, that the sun's center will collapse a little further in, causing it to be more compact, and causing it to have more gravity than usual. This could be what is heating up all the planets in the solar system and not just the earth.

I will explain, in detail, why I think gravity has more to do with density than mass. I believe that as atoms are pressed more and more together, they vibrate a kind of sub space, or the space just above where string theory kicks in. I believe these vibrations are like ocean waves that pull a surface object toward the source of the waves. Now, as more and more matter comes in, or, as more and more pressure is exerted against the central mass and the atoms get closer and closer together, they vibrate harder, and the gravity is increased. Now, these waves are not exactly like ocean waves, they are more like electrical waves. To us, they are as nothing, but to our atoms in our body, they are always pulling us down to the source of the wave creation.

Now, these waves, reach out pretty far, in that subspace area. Now, how do we know, or think we know that there is a such thing as subspace?

Spooky action at a distance, or quantum entanglement.

I don't usually reference Wikipedia, but this article is quite nice: [link to en.wikipedia.org]


Basically, they state, we don't know what connects these particles that act like twins, even when they are great distances apart. They don't know.

But the key to this theory is that they are made from the same source. Down, at the roots of what make an atom, they must be still connected. Now, how can they be connected when they are a foot apart?

If one considers that perhaps atoms are the top of a chain of other particles and vibrations, and that, an atom being like a sunflower, the stalks below, out of site, can be much more compressed and pushed together, or, even the same stalk, with two flower heads on it. The space below doesn't need to be as big as above. Now, some theorize that these particles can still be connected as far as the earth to the moon, and maybe even to the next solar system. If that is true, then the area in which they are connected could be very tiny. In other words, you could pack all the links or roots of the atoms of our sun into an area the size of a thimble, or, most likey, something smaller.

Before any of you scoff at this, I remind you that down at the particle level of electrons and protons, that the electrons orbit the nucleus of an atom with the same distance in ratio as Neptune does our sun. yeah, sub atomically, there is a great amount of space. Also, I remind people that our existence here, well, mother nature, seems to do things in fractal forms. Thus, you have a galaxy, a center, spinning things around it, a solar system, a center, spinning things around it, an atom, a center, spinning things around it, and .... muons? quarks? and .... ?

Each seems huge, and the objects smaller than it, small in perspective from huge down, but our solar system seems huge to us. And to an ant, our planet is as a solar system, and to an atom, a human cell is a universe, what does an atom's perspective show, that we can't see?

This theory would suggest that gravity is a product of density and mass, and that it reacts to matter on a sub space level. Many people ask, how can the gravity of the sun affect the earth so quickly, if gravity can only move at the speed of light? Gravity, it has been found, moves faster than the speed of light.

[link to www.hbci.com]

Now consider this last thing, if gravity is connected to atoms at the sub-space level, where their roots are all bunched together, then, gravity only seems to be faster than the speed of light. But moving at less the speed of light down there, it can shake up or vibrate flower heads, or atoms from the earth to the moon in less than a second. To us, it would seem like gravity is moving faster than light, but the gravity vibrations or waves are taking their sweet ol' time in the garden of sub-space, taking time to smell the roses.

In that garden, the flower stalks close together would impact each other more than those spread out. How do they impact each other? Atoms shake, or spin, or vibrate, they do kind of blow in the wind like flowers. when their stalks or sub-atomic stems get close together, they harmonize. They send out a kind of song or wave that gently pulls other stalks in, or atoms. Then, when more and more get together, they begin to dance more, get crowded, make a little bit more noise. They put off even greater waves, and teens all over the neighborhood hear it, and congregate and start up a rave. Then, soon, the party grows more and more, and things get bad. ie black hole

Finally things get to be too much, and a fight breaks out, the cops come, and the whole thing bursts out into the streets ie quasar.

Last year cosmologists reported that quasars are found in the center of galaxies, or are the center of galaxies that got eaten up by another one. Yet the center of galaxies are supposed to be black holes. Well they are, until they release pressure in a big explosion, that we call quasars. Look it up. :)

Anyway, I know it looks like I rewrote the book on gravity, but this stuff is becoming more and more science every day. I'm just putting it all together.

Well, thank you for once again taking the time to read through all of this.

I could be wrong, about gravity. But I'm not wrong about the sun causing these earthquakes, at least I don't think I am wrong about that. And if the sun is causing our ocean tides to life higher, and is lifting the crust higher, then that suggests an increase in gravity, does it not?

I have two years ahead of me, maybe, minus the doom, to be proven correct. So at least, this theory has an experiment to back it up, it will just take three years in all to complete it. :D

Hey, wish me luck. Why? because if there is sub-space, then we should be able to create worm holes rather easily. Just cycle some entangled particles at the speed of light on one side of earth, and do it on the other, at the same direction, and you should get a nice wormhole that you can step through. And one step should take you there, through, to the other side, it would look as thin as a razor.

You don't think God made all of this big ol' universe and didn't leave us a way to travel through it in a life time, did you?

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When you say the sun is in line with the galactic center in January, are you saying the Earth is seeing from its perspective, the sun and galactic center in front of it? Or are they opposed to it, right now?
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When you say the sun is in line with the galactic center in January, are you saying the Earth is seeing from its perspective, the sun and galactic center in front of it? Or are they opposed to it, right now?
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I'm saying that when we look at the Sun now we're (closely) looking also at the (direction of the) GC.
The Sun is a bit out of Sagittarius now, going to Capricornus (Capricorn), and the GC is located at Sagittarius (the specific position I need check out).

I'm reading your other post now!:-)
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You make some valid points, yet I must disagree with you that only mass and not density can make gravity. Consider this. If you take the planet earth, and put one inch between every atom in all directions, which would make the earth possibly the same volume of the sun if not greater, the gravity of that field would be that of a cloud, not of the planet earth. Why is that?

Superconducters can thwart the earth's gravity after cooled, though we are finding materials that can do that with induced currents at warmer and warmer temps, why did the process we discover come about only when the materials are colder? Being colder, are they not more condensed? Don't the molecules, even in Iron begin to shake more and more and expand the metal as they get hotter? Would they not condense then, when they get colder?
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Hi OP, thank you so much for your ideas, they're many and they're good, very interesting indeed thanks!
hf

I'll try to comment on them to best of my ability but because they're very thoughtful I'll probably take some time to do my comments.

My first impression is that you're creating some sort of quantum gravity model, but I cannot say this for sure unless you show me some more formal details.

This impression came to me when you referred to "vibrating sub-spaces" that would generate the gravitational field just "above" the threshold where the string field becomes important. This could be an awesome model if you just manage to work out all the details, I mean, if you didn't already!:-)

I'll divide my comments in various posts to make it easier to read.

Regarding the part of you comment that I selected above I'd say first that no matter how small you make the density of an object (like a "cloud", like a "gas", etc.) if you take a measurement of the gravitational field outside the entire body it will fall with the inverse squared law of Newton (with some relativistic corrections) and (at sufficient far away distances) the field will be the same as if the entire mass was placed at the center of the body.

This is what our present scientific knowledge says not only regarding mass distributions but also electric charges distributions too. (same inverse square law)

You can calculate this and check it against experimental evidence, which will corroborate it.
No model can go against this evidence but rather a new model may try to find little failures in it that a more general description would correct or it can try a completely new approach, but in this case the new model should be able reproduce this result as well or it would be considered flawed in a fundamental way.

Regarding the behavior of superconducting materials it is the tension surface of these materials that makes them behave macroscopically they way they do.
It's not any kind of anti-gravity effect as it seems to be implied by your comment.(but it seems that this is not very important for your model, then we could skip this part for while)

I know, we are talking about an area of physics where there is still a gaping hole in knowledge. But it is my belief that it is not mass that brings about gravity, but the compactness of that mass.

And though the sun has great pressure inside of it, the core of our sun is actually pressuring the surface of the sun outward, not the surface pressuring inward. Our planet's surface presses down on our core. The sun's core presses outwardly. Though, some claim the magnetic fields inside and at the surface of the sun kind of put a squeeze back down onto the center, there is a kind of push pull thing going on there.

My theory is that as we approach the event horizon of our galaxy, which gravitationally wise, has very little mass in it considering its gravitational influence, another fact that supports my theory, that the sun's center will collapse a little further in, causing it to be more compact, and causing it to have more gravity than usual. This could be what is heating up all the planets in the solar system and not just the earth.
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The pressure inside of the Sun (according to the usual cosmological point of view based on Newtonian and Relativistic gravitation) is caused by the gravitational field itself and it is this gravitational energy that permits the existence of nuclear fusion inside the Sun causing the outward pressure that you mentioned.
The gravitational pull of the solar mass is supposed to be much greater than the "outward pressure" caused by the nuclear reactions, otherwise the Sun would not remain stable for a long time and the nuclear reactions would actually stop.

The magnetic field of the Sun seems to be a somewhat controversial subject as its function and importance seems to depend on the model that is being used to describe the Sun in the first place. I've got in contact with the "Electric Sun" model only recently and found it very interesting indeed, because of their natural predicting power.

BTW, the proponents of the Electric Sun model also have their own different approach to gravity that disputes the validity of General Relativity,
[link to www.holoscience.com]

I'll be back with my 2nd comment soon.

Thank you for this interesting thread OP!:-)

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