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Poster Handle angelpbj
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You make some valid points, yet I must disagree with you that only mass and not density can make gravity. Consider this. If you take the planet earth, and put one inch between every atom in all directions, which would make the earth possibly the same volume of the sun if not greater, the gravity of that field would be that of a cloud, not of the planet earth. Why is that?

Superconducters can thwart the earth's gravity after cooled, though we are finding materials that can do that with induced currents at warmer and warmer temps, why did the process we discover come about only when the materials are colder? Being colder, are they not more condensed? Don't the molecules, even in Iron begin to shake more and more and expand the metal as they get hotter? Would they not condense then, when they get colder?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 870812

Hi OP, thank you so much for your ideas, they're many and they're good, very interesting indeed thanks!
hf

I'll try to comment on them to best of my ability but because they're very thoughtful I'll probably take some time to do my comments.

My first impression is that you're creating some sort of quantum gravity model, but I cannot say this for sure unless you show me some more formal details.

This impression came to me when you referred to "vibrating sub-spaces" that would generate the gravitational field just "above" the threshold where the string field becomes important. This could be an awesome model if you just manage to work out all the details, I mean, if you didn't already!:-)

I'll divide my comments in various posts to make it easier to read.

Regarding the part of you comment that I selected above I'd say first that no matter how small you make the density of an object (like a "cloud", like a "gas", etc.) if you take a measurement of the gravitational field outside the entire body it will fall with the inverse squared law of Newton (with some relativistic corrections) and (at sufficient far away distances) the field will be the same as if the entire mass was placed at the center of the body.

This is what our present scientific knowledge says not only regarding mass distributions but also electric charges distributions too. (same inverse square law)

You can calculate this and check it against experimental evidence, which will corroborate it.
No model can go against this evidence but rather a new model may try to find little failures in it that a more general description would correct or it can try a completely new approach, but in this case the new model should be able reproduce this result as well or it would be considered flawed in a fundamental way.

Regarding the behavior of superconducting materials it is the tension surface of these materials that makes them behave macroscopically they way they do.
It's not any kind of anti-gravity effect as it seems to be implied by your comment.(but it seems that this is not very important for your model, then we could skip this part for while)

I know, we are talking about an area of physics where there is still a gaping hole in knowledge. But it is my belief that it is not mass that brings about gravity, but the compactness of that mass.

And though the sun has great pressure inside of it, the core of our sun is actually pressuring the surface of the sun outward, not the surface pressuring inward. Our planet's surface presses down on our core. The sun's core presses outwardly. Though, some claim the magnetic fields inside and at the surface of the sun kind of put a squeeze back down onto the center, there is a kind of push pull thing going on there.

My theory is that as we approach the event horizon of our galaxy, which gravitationally wise, has very little mass in it considering its gravitational influence, another fact that supports my theory, that the sun's center will collapse a little further in, causing it to be more compact, and causing it to have more gravity than usual. This could be what is heating up all the planets in the solar system and not just the earth.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 870812

The pressure inside of the Sun (according to the usual cosmological point of view based on Newtonian and Relativistic gravitation) is caused by the gravitational field itself and it is this gravitational energy that permits the existence of nuclear fusion inside the Sun causing the outward pressure that you mentioned.
The gravitational pull of the solar mass is supposed to be much greater than the "outward pressure" caused by the nuclear reactions, otherwise the Sun would not remain stable for a long time and the nuclear reactions would actually stop.

The magnetic field of the Sun seems to be a somewhat controversial subject as its function and importance seems to depend on the model that is being used to describe the Sun in the first place. I've got in contact with the "Electric Sun" model only recently and found it very interesting indeed, because of their natural predicting power.

BTW, the proponents of the Electric Sun model also have their own different approach to gravity that disputes the validity of General Relativity,
[link to www.holoscience.com]

I'll be back with my 2nd comment soon.

Thank you for this interesting thread OP!:-)
 
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