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Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?

 
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Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
i am switching to an Egg and vegetable diet. It will be 80% vegetable 20% egg

Is this a healthy diet.
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
That depends a lot on how many eggs per day.

Also, depends on if the eggs you eat are organic, free range and/or fed on an omega-3 fatty acid diet.

All eggs aren't equal.

You should also have plenty of legumes and grains (beans and rice, for example).
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
yes, very good diet. You can get by without the refined carbs.. no need for rice and grains.
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
Need to interchange with egg whites only, with your veggies.
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
it's not bad, could be worse

One thing about eggs is this, you should really consider eating the yolks raw. This is because there are lots of nutrients like omega three fatty acids that can be harmed by heat.

On the other hand the egg whites should be coked because there are actually anti-nutrients that are buying to b vitamins in the raw form. Those anti-nutrients are neutralized when the white is cooked.

remember to get high-quality eggs too. Not just your usual store-bought crap. Try to find somebody in your area that raises chickens that's your best bet
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
Need to interchange with egg whites only, with your veggies.
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no way; the yolk is much more nutritious than the white. don't be discouraged by the fact that the yolk contains cholesterol. Dietary cholesterol is irrevelant.

if anything you should toss the whites and just eat the yolk
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You'll have lots of gas.
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
If you like to shit a lot.
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Need to interchange with egg whites only, with your veggies.

no way; the yolk is much more nutritious than the white. don't be discouraged by the fact that the yolk contains cholesterol. Dietary cholesterol is irrevelant.

if anything you should toss the whites and just eat the yolk
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Okay, if that's what you think, then go for it.
Why ask us here, if it's healthy ?
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Yeah, the whole cholesterol thing is confusing.

One side says that low carb/high protein is the best diet for humans, and then there's the other side that claims a pure vegan diet is the best.

I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.
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SEA Vegetables are wonderful w/eggs.

Add a little toasted seseame oil/seeds

It's what's GOOD for breakfast .

Just picked up some org. freerange from a dedicated org. egg farmer for 3.50CND, try to find fresh protein for THAT price, lets see each egg is ..
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
Yeah, the whole cholesterol thing is confusing.

One side says that low carb/high protein is the best diet for humans, and then there's the other side that claims a pure vegan diet is the best.

I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824668


Loosing weight and exercise does help. I know some who have lowered their cholesterol by not buying anything in the market if the box said it had cholesterol, but that basically means a pure vegetable, fruit, nut, legume, grain, water diet. It can be extremely hard for people that genetically produce a lot of cholesterol to lower it.
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
yes, very good diet. You can get by without the refined carbs.. no need for rice and grains.
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Who said they had to be refined?

You can eat whole grains.
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Yeah, the whole cholesterol thing is confusing.

One side says that low carb/high protein is the best diet for humans, and then there's the other side that claims a pure vegan diet is the best.

I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824668


You can control cholesterol with diet and exercise.

Statins have muscle-wasting and other bad side effects.

If you eat brown rice and other whole grains, you can lower your cholesterol a lot, because whole grains contain tocotrienols, a family of nutrients similar to vitamin E (but not the same thing).

Tocotrienols reduce cholesterol by affecting the levels of HGM-CoA in the liver. That's exactly how statins work, too. Only tocotrienols don't have toxic side effects like muscle-wasting. This is why doctors who want their patients to lower their cholesterol will tell them to cut out sugar and starch and eat whole grains.

Here's some info on how tocotrienols lower cholesterol from Wikipedia:

Tocotrienols and cholesterol reduction

The human body makes cholesterol from the liver, producing about 1g of cholesterol each day or 80% of the needed total body cholesterol. The remaining 20% comes from what we eat. Excessive cholesterol is a health risk because gradual fatty deposit clog up the arteries. This will cause blood flow to the brain, heart, kidneys and other parts of the body become less efficient.

Cholesterol, though needed metabolically, is not essential in diet. We can lower cholesterol in our body by eating more fruits and vegetables. Tocotrienols can decrease the liver's capacity to manufacture cholesterol. It does so by suppressing the HMG-CoA reductase, the enzyme in the liver responsible for cholesterol synthesis.[18]

In 1993, American scientists conducted a double-blind placebo controlled study of 50 volunteers at the Kenneth Jordan Heart Foundation and Elmhurst Medical Center. Their results suggested that palm tocotrienols could ease clogged up arteries. Seven high cholesterol patients with narrowing arteries experienced reverse arterial blockage of the carotid artery after consuming palm tocotrienols, while in two the conditioned worsened.[58] This compared to the control group, where none improved and ten worsened.

Tocotrienols, especially δ- and γ-tocotrienols, were shown to be effective nutritional agents in treating high cholesterol. In particular, γ-tocotrienol appears to act on a specific enzyme called 3-hydroxy-3-methylglutaryl-coenzyme and suppresses the production of this enzyme, resulting in less cholesterol being manufactured by liver cells.[59] However, studies have demonstrated that the presence of dietary alpha-tocopherol may interfere with gamma-tocotrienol's ability to lower cholesterol[60] and may decrease the absorption of tocotrienol.[61]


Also cholesterol-lowering: lots of regular exercise, fruits, vegetables and omega-3 fatty acids.
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
Yeah, the whole cholesterol thing is confusing.

One side says that low carb/high protein is the best diet for humans, and then there's the other side that claims a pure vegan diet is the best.

I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824668

Most vegetables and grains need to be cooked to provide us good nutrients. Raw is good for roughage and fiber, but that's about it for many vegetables. Human digestive tracks aren't designed to digest most raw plant matter except for fruit. Meat, especially raw, takes much less energy to digest (not suggesting raw meat, but putting it in context with a natural human state - pre-agricultural) - no need for extra long intestines and/or colons, no need for more than one stomach - things that strict herbivores need to digest plant matter (things humans don't have).That might be a clue as to what diet is natural / ideal for a human being.
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
Yeah, the whole cholesterol thing is confusing.

One side says that low carb/high protein is the best diet for humans, and then there's the other side that claims a pure vegan diet is the best.

I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.

Most vegetables and grains need to be cooked to provide us good nutrients. Raw is good for roughage and fiber, but that's about it for many vegetables. Human digestive tracks aren't designed to digest most raw plant matter except for fruit. Meat, especially raw, takes much less energy to digest (not suggesting raw meat, but putting it in context with a natural human state - pre-agricultural) - no need for extra long intestines and/or colons, no need for more than one stomach - things that strict herbivores need to digest plant matter (things humans don't have).That might be a clue as to what diet is natural / ideal for a human being.
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Grains need to be cooked.

Not most vegetables.
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I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824668

A nurse posted on here a while back saying that they were changing the standards for cholesterol levels so that no one could pass the test - everyone should be on the drugs.

I wouldn't think of taking those lousy drugs if I were you. They are for sure worse for you than cholesterol. Besides I heard your brain is MADE OF cholesterol. Maybe this anti-cholesterol thing is just another way to dumb us down.
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
Yeah, the whole cholesterol thing is confusing.

One side says that low carb/high protein is the best diet for humans, and then there's the other side that claims a pure vegan diet is the best.

I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824668


you don't need Staten drugs. All you need is to get on Dr. mattias rath's heart disease healing program. Google "rath + lipoprotein a + lysine + vitamin c” you will find all the information you need.

One thing doctors don't tell you is that in order to form their tissue, and therefore in order to keep your brain healthy, you need to utilize cholesterol. Statin drugs prevent you from utilizing cholesterol and therefore raise your risk of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's
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Yeah, the whole cholesterol thing is confusing.

One side says that low carb/high protein is the best diet for humans, and then there's the other side that claims a pure vegan diet is the best.

I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.

Most vegetables and grains need to be cooked to provide us good nutrients. Raw is good for roughage and fiber, but that's about it for many vegetables. Human digestive tracks aren't designed to digest most raw plant matter except for fruit. Meat, especially raw, takes much less energy to digest (not suggesting raw meat, but putting it in context with a natural human state - pre-agricultural) - no need for extra long intestines and/or colons, no need for more than one stomach - things that strict herbivores need to digest plant matter (things humans don't have).That might be a clue as to what diet is natural / ideal for a human being.


Grains need to be cooked.

Not most vegetables.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 852424

Actually, most vegetables need to be cooked. You get some nutrients out of eating them raw, but more if they are cooked (plant cell walls are the problem - indigestible to us and they keep nutrients away from us - think juicer.) Another confusion here is that some of the things we consider vegetables are actually fruit - tomatoes, for example. Eating a raw carrot, say, will, of course, give you some beta carotene, but more fiber. If you steam it, you will get more beta carotene out of the plant. Also, a juicer breaks down those pesky plant cell walls...
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Yeah, the whole cholesterol thing is confusing.

One side says that low carb/high protein is the best diet for humans, and then there's the other side that claims a pure vegan diet is the best.

I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 824668



Damn straight. Don't let the establishment tell you that statins are the only answer.

First check your ratio of good to bad cholesterol, and your homocysteine levels. Research how to interpret those levels, not all doctors take the time to look at the full profile before leaping to prescribe statins. Then, take a few months and aggressively go after your cholesterol, using a really healthy diet like a mediterranean diet. Guess what, you need lots of high quality omega 3s plus the best quality olive oil you can find, and other healthy oils. Good luck, you may very well succeed if you do this right. Many do.
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just got a 50lb box of whole egg spray dehydrated egg powder....makes 2000 eggs. Stores in mylar and O2 absorbers for 10 years. Woot!!!
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.

A nurse posted on here a while back saying that they were changing the standards for cholesterol levels so that no one could pass the test - everyone should be on the drugs.

I wouldn't think of taking those lousy drugs if I were you. They are for sure worse for you than cholesterol. Besides I heard your brain is MADE OF cholesterol. Maybe this anti-cholesterol thing is just another way to dumb us down.
 Quoting: mercury2


nerve tissue and brain tissue is mostly fat and cholesterol. Doctors don't tell you this. If your ability to utilize cholesterol is inhibited so is your ability to repair nerve tissue and to keep a healthy brain. This is how amyloid plaque forms which is the basis for many brain disorders like Alzheimer's.

I truly believe Statin are very evil. Honestly, just plain evil.
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On Dr. Mercola or Natural News, they speak about the dangers of statins and that they are of NO VALUE.

They make a bunch of money for Big Pharma.

There is a doctor (swedish I think) who is a researcher and an outspoken critic of the whole cholesterol/statin scam.

Here read this link to Dr. Mercola before you consider taking any of that poison!!!

[link to www.mercola.com]
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Yeah, the whole cholesterol thing is confusing.

One side says that low carb/high protein is the best diet for humans, and then there's the other side that claims a pure vegan diet is the best.

I'm currently researching this topic because my doctor told me my cholesterol levels are too high and wants to put me on statins. Before I do that, I'm going to learn as much about cholesterol as I can.

Most vegetables and grains need to be cooked to provide us good nutrients. Raw is good for roughage and fiber, but that's about it for many vegetables. Human digestive tracks aren't designed to digest most raw plant matter except for fruit. Meat, especially raw, takes much less energy to digest (not suggesting raw meat, but putting it in context with a natural human state - pre-agricultural) - no need for extra long intestines and/or colons, no need for more than one stomach - things that strict herbivores need to digest plant matter (things humans don't have).That might be a clue as to what diet is natural / ideal for a human being.


Grains need to be cooked.

Not most vegetables.

Actually, most vegetables need to be cooked. You get some nutrients out of eating them raw, but more if they are cooked (plant cell walls are the problem - indigestible to us and they keep nutrients away from us - think juicer.) Another confusion here is that some of the things we consider vegetables are actually fruit - tomatoes, for example. Eating a raw carrot, say, will, of course, give you some beta carotene, but more fiber. If you steam it, you will get more beta carotene out of the plant. Also, a juicer breaks down those pesky plant cell walls...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 869457



You are not well informed.

Cooking (or steaming) a vegetable will leave the vitamins and minerals intact but will KILL the enzymes in the food. Freezing does also.

You want the enzymes.

This is the point of the raw food diet.
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
i am switching to an Egg and vegetable diet. It will be 80% vegetable 20% egg

Is this a healthy diet.
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calcium source?
Water always wins. :sun:
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
You are not well informed.

Cooking (or steaming) a vegetable will leave the vitamins and minerals intact but will KILL the enzymes in the food. Freezing does also.

You want the enzymes.

This is the point of the raw food diet.
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This poster is correct.
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You are not well informed.

Cooking (or steaming) a vegetable will leave the vitamins and minerals intact but will KILL the enzymes in the food. Freezing does also.

You want the enzymes.

This is the point of the raw food diet.
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This poster is correct.
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op here is a list of vegetable calcium content:

[link to www.citracal.com]

artichokes, bok choy, broccoli, spinach, beet greens are some of the best ones... make sure you get enough calcium... collard greens have a LOT of calcium.

Last Edited by Hillcrest on 01/20/2010 01:05 AM
Water always wins. :sun:
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
Add nuts, yougurt, some fruits and berries.
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like someone said add nuts yogurt fruits roots all raw organic foods ---- and MOST IMPORTANTLY--- STUCTURED WATER-- look it up you need structured water to completely restrucutre your body then you will be 100% healthy..
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Re: Eggs and Vegetables: Good Diet?
it's not bad, could be worse

One thing about eggs is this, you should really consider eating the yolks raw. This is because there are lots of nutrients like omega three fatty acids that can be harmed by heat.

On the other hand the egg whites should be coked because there are actually anti-nutrients that are buying to b vitamins in the raw form. Those anti-nutrients are neutralized when the white is cooked.

remember to get high-quality eggs too. Not just your usual store-bought crap. Try to find somebody in your area that raises chickens that's your best bet
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raw? these days that is an invitation for salmonella
to enter your body.

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