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I defy you to listen to this interview with Tom Fife and tell me you think he is lying. HE IS NOT LYING.


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The First Time I Heard of Barack
Written by Thomas Fife
by Tom Fife

During the period of roughly February 1992 to mid 1994, I was making frequent trips to Moscow, Russia, in the process of starting a software development joint-venture company with some people from the Russian scientific community. One of the men in charge on the Russian side was named V. M.; he had a wife named T.M.

V. was a level-headed scientist while his wife was rather deeply committed to the losing Communist cause – a cause she obviously was not abandoning.

One evening, during a trip early in 1992, the American half of our venture were invited to V. & T.’s Moscow flat as we were about to return to the States. The party went well and we had the normal dinner discussions.

As the evening wore on, T. developed a decidedly rough anti-American edge – one her husband tried to quietly rein in.


The bottom line of the tirade she started against the United States went something like this:


“You Americans always like to think that you have the perfect government and your people are always so perfect. Well then, why haven’t you had a woman president by now? You had a chance to vote for a woman vice-president and you didn’t do it.”


The general response went something along the lines that you don’t vote for someone just because of their sex. Besides, you don’t vote for vice-president, but the president and vice-president as a ticket.


“Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon.”


The consensus we expressed was that we didn’t think there was anything innately barring that. The right person at the right time and sure, America would try to vote for the right person, be he or she black or not.


“What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?”

The out-of-the-blue remark was met by our stares. She continued, “Well, you will; and he will be a Communist.”


It was then that the husband unsuccessfully tried to change the subject; but she was on a roll and would have nothing of it. One of us asked, “It sounds like you know something we don’t know.”


“Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call “Ivy League”. You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be your President.”

She became more and more smug as she presented her stream of detailed knowledge and predictions so matter-of-factly – as though all were foregone conclusions. “It’s all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won’t have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He’s gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.”


We sat there not knowing what to say. She was obviously very happy that the Communists were doing this and that it would somehow be a thumbing of their collective noses at America: they would give us a black president and he’d be a Communist to boot. She made it quite obvious that she thought that this was going to breathe new life into world Communism. From this and other conversations with her, she always asserted that Communism was far from dead.


She was full of little details about him that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air.

She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature. “Have no doubt: he is one of us, a Soviet.”


At one point, she related some sort of San Francisco connection, but I didn’t understand what the point was and don’t recall much about that. I was just left with the notion that she considered the city to be some sort of a center for their activity here.

Since I had dabbled in languages, I knew a smattering of Arabic. I made a comment: “If I remember correctly, ‘Barack’ comes from the Arabic word for ‘Blessing.’ That seems to be an odd name for an American.” She replied quickly, “Yes. It is ‘African’”, she insisted, “and he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.”

She continued with something to the effect that America was at the same time the great hope and the great obstacle for Communism. America would have to be converted to Communism and Barack was going to pave the way.


So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove?

Well, it’s definitely anecdotal. It doesn’t prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed.

Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.



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Thank you HL. I believe you had posted this previously a while back (or else I read it elsewhere). Something rings true. I don't wholly discount this discussion in 1992. As you have stated in other threads, it is a very slow gradual chess game they play.

Although I do not support Obama, I still have "hopes" that perhaps, hopefully, he and his family were set up as a Trojan horse (for our benefit).
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Thank you HL. I believe you had posted this previously a while back (or else I read it elsewhere). Something rings true. I don't wholly discount this discussion in 1992. As you have stated in other threads, it is a very slow gradual chess game they play.

Although I do not support Obama, I still have "hopes" that perhaps, hopefully, he and his family were set up as a Trojan horse (for our benefit).
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All I can say is that when you listen to the interview you won't discount it at all. Reading the short article is one thing, but when you listen to this interview you will know much more information, and you will be able to better judge credibility, and you will come to the conclusion that what Tom Fife says is the truth. Barack Obama is working for MOSCOW. He is MOSCOW'S CREATION.

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Here's a long-running thread on this topic suggesting he attended Patrice Lumumba (Friendship) University in Moscow:

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I hear what you're saying. I'm just trying to stick by my initial gut instinct.

During the campaign one thing that struck me was out of the blue he made a comment about HI granny "she absolutely loves mystery suspense novels". It was said totally out of context, I asked my husband if he really just said that, my husband said, "yeah, that was weird". I can't remember if it was just a quickie campaign trail saying or an interview, but it was done around March 2008.

Everything has been overplayed regarding him. I don't know, I can't put my finger on it, it's a nebulous thought that I can't quite express.
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The second interview on the tape is of Anne Leary, who confronted Bill Ayers at a Chicago airport, where he told her without prodding that he wrote Obama's book Dreams of My Father. I found this to be an interesting recounting of their conversation because I, too, confronted Bill Ayers, three days after the election at a class he was guest lecturing at at UIC, and one of the things I accused him of while the class sat silent not knowing what to do was having written Obama's book, which he of course denied. I left prior to the arrival of security.

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If this is true, and I don't know either way, but if true this a conspiracy at the highest of all levels. Both parties, SCOTUS, universities, CIA, MOSSAD, MI5, Kremlin/KGB, and a few we have never heard of or thought of, would have to be 'in on it'. It wouldbe HUGE! Bigger then NASA faking the moon landings!

Or it could be just a great story from some guy.

Occums Razor.
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H.L Who are you ?
I remember you as the person who actually broke the Joseph Moshe story wide open.
And yet, his whereabouts and proof positive of the authenticity of the original radio interview with Bill Deagle has yet to surface.
Now I'm not suggesting you're a paid shill, but I do remember your name very clearly and have interest in your motives sir.
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It all comes down to having enough information and good enough judgment to trust the right people. So many here at GLP believe they have enough information when they don't, and compound the problem by exercising deplorable judgment. Of course I'm talking about the LaRouchites, Alex Jonesers, etc, who fall for one active measure after another. The Bezmenov videos, for example, are just as freely available to a Joneser as they are to you and me, but the Joneser doesn't think he needs to view them, and if he does take the time to do so, his judgment is so poor that he either won't understand it, or he'll warp it to fit his anti-Semitic/anti-illuminati worldview as provided for him by charlatans and frauds. The same holds true for anything of substance, such as the work of Golitsyn, Sejna, Nyquist, Malina, Douglass, Litvinenko, etc, etc, etc.
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H.L Who are you ?
I remember you as the person who actually broke the Joseph Moshe story wide open.
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I know I'm not HL, but I will come to his defense. HL's posts are spot on, I don't question where HL gets the information nor do I question motives other than pass along information.

What people do with knowledge is their onus. Just saying.

I happen to thoroughly enjoy HL's posts. hf
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H.L Who are you ?
I remember you as the person who actually broke the Joseph Moshe story wide open.
And yet, his whereabouts and proof positive of the authenticity of the original radio interview with Bill Deagle has yet to surface.
Now I'm not suggesting you're a paid shill, but I do remember your name very clearly and have interest in your motives sir.
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I related information obtained in a phone conversation with a person I'm in regular contact with. I didn't make it up and it didn't sound like he did, either. Some things about which I posted seem to have been accurate and others not. I don't know what to make of the whole thing any better than anyone else.
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Shanken, I like you and I like your posts. I have a couple of questions for you.

I know that you are anti communist, as I am. When it comes to Russia, I'm not so sure why you are focused on them. Britian is the hotbed of communism and I feel Obama is THEIR puppet. Certainly, Britain has a long history of involvement with communism in Russia, to the detriment of the Russian people.

While Britain, and the Rothschilds, are at the center of the one world government (along with the global warming bullshit), it seems like Putin and Mededvev are nationalists and are always attacked by the white Russian hating British communists. What are your thoughts on all of this?
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JR Nyquist is one of the foremost experts in the US today on geo political events ~ especially with regard to Russia. He has about as much credibility as anyone you can name.
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H.L Who are you ?
I remember you as the person who actually broke the Joseph Moshe story wide open.
And yet, his whereabouts and proof positive of the authenticity of the original radio interview with Bill Deagle has yet to surface.
Now I'm not suggesting you're a paid shill, but I do remember your name very clearly and have interest in your motives sir.



I related information obtained in a phone conversation with a person I'm in regular contact with. I didn't make it up and it didn't sound like he did, either. Some things about which I posted seem to have been accurate and others not. I don't know what to make of the whole thing any better than anyone else.
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I'll also say that it was amusing watching the story make the rounds online, but I was realy quite pleased I was able to get such a large amount of people to read the foreword to Ken Alibek's book Biohazard, which I typed out as soon as I got off the phone with the guy who told me the Moshe story. (By the way, the original source for the story was an Israeli woman.) I viewed the story as a vehicle to get the information about the massive and secret Soviet bioweapons program out to a lot of people, and I'm glad that happened.
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It all comes down to having enough information and good enough judgment to trust the right people. So many here at GLP believe they have enough information when they don't, and compound the problem by exercising deplorable judgment. Of course I'm talking about the LaRouchites, Alex Jonesers, etc, who fall for one active measure after another. The Bezmenov videos, for example, are just as freely available to a Joneser as they are to you and me, but the Joneser doesn't think he needs to view them, and if he does take the time to do so, his judgment is so poor that he either won't understand it, or he'll warp it to fit his anti-Semitic/anti-illuminati worldview as provided for him by charlatans and frauds. The same holds true for anything of substance, such as the work of Golitsyn, Sejna, Nyquist, Malina, Douglass, Litvinenko, etc, etc, etc.
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Shanken, that concerns me that you use the term anti semitic, a Bolshevik and FALSE construct. I know that Shanken is a Jewish name, as I have a friend of the same surname. You may be sensitive about anti Zionist sentiment. I don't know. The trouble is that it was primarily Jewish Bolsheviks who visited such hell upon the Russian people (pre Stalin). Then there are the British Zionists and the abominations in the middle east.

I DETEST Obama, but my love is for America. I don't give a flying fuck about Israel. Zionist communism and Islam are both cancers, imo, and have NO PLACE in American politics.
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Shanken, I like you and I like your posts. I have a couple of questions for you.

I know that you are anti communist, as I am. When it comes to Russia, I'm not so sure why you are focused on them. Britian is the hotbed of communism and I feel Obama is THEIR puppet. Certainly, Britain has a long history of involvement with communism in Russia, to the detriment of the Russian people.

While Britain, and the Rothschilds, are at the center of the one world government (along with the global warming bullshit), it seems like Putin and Mededvev are nationalists and are always attacked by the white Russian hating British communists. What are your thoughts on all of this?
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My comment on this is that there is a thread at TFP forum right now in which Lyndon LaRouche's background as a communist and Soviet agent is exposed. I know if you were to read the information you would understand my position and you would be forced to change yours.
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Well I happen to be the owner of LOADED PARANORMAL and I posted your story and with the aid of many GLPer's helped get the Joe Moshe story into the mainstream.

In 2 days I rece3ived close to 36,000 hits and in the end my website was hacked.

I believe (personally) that something was suspect about the entire event.
However the original Bill deagle interview with the alleged phone caller has YET to surface.

Could you please provide me an audio link to reopen my investigation ?
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Like most of the posts on GLP, this is clearly bsflag
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Hey HL

I am with you on many of your posts. What is the best book to read about the soviet takeover of US?

PS Have you read Red Mafia?
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Here is some info on LaRouche all should know, especially those who so foolishly parrot his lies.



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LaRouche Network in Latin America
See pages 6 and 7 (on the PDF document)

See Dennis King's book Lyndon LaRouche and the New American
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When Polish Communist leader Edward Gierek was threatened by the Solidarity trade union in 1980, LaRouche prepared a document advising him on how to crush the "Trotskyite insurrection" of "British intelligence's . . . Judas goats" (i.e., dumb Catholics led by smart Jews). He told Gierek to crush the strikers the way American cops crushed the ghetto riots of the 1960s. "Use force to contain and separate groups of rioters from one another and from uninvolved areas of the population," he urged. "Isolate and neutralize the agents provocateurs as inconspicuously and quickly as possible, and let the dupes tire themselves back into a normal state of mind."

General Wojciech Jaruzelski's Soviet-backed martial law regime did just that in December 1981 when it rounded up and imprisoned tens of thousands of Poles. The regime became an international pariah, but not to the LaRouchians. They were the only enthusiastic Jaruzelski supporters in the West, save for a few small Moscow-financed CPs. EIR and New Solidarity published dozens of pro-Jaruzelski pieces, including the editorial "Don't Meddle in Poland," which claimed that Solidarity was linked to Western intelligence agencies. The AFL-CIO, which had attempted to help Solidarity, was described as conducting "covert operations targeted against the Polish nation-state." Jaruzelski's "broad purge" was said to be a necessary move to get rid of "hardcore British intelligence protégés."

The LaRouchians have acknowledged Soviet contacts on numerous occasions. Just as they found it useful to flirt with the Polish government in the early 1980s, so they found it rewarding to deal with the Soviets for almost ten years.

The Soviet connection began in 1974, when LaRouche aides met a Soviet UN mission official, Nikolai Logiunov, who passed them on to Gennady Nicolayevich Serebreyakov, a KGB officer attached to the mission. The latter met regularly with Gus Kalimtgis during 1974-75. LaRouche met twice with Serebreyakov, once at the Soviet mission and once at NCLC headquarters.

The same year the LaRouchians met Serebreyakov, they founded the Fusion Energy Foundation to work among scientists, including those engaged in classified work. The FEF zeroed in on researchers in plasma physics and fusion energy, areas with major military applications. Most of the scientists they called to pump for information were unaware that the FEF was a cover for the "science section" of the NCLC intelligence division, A January 1975 internal document sets forth LaRouche's plan for this elusive unit, which he has almost never referred to in any subsequent document. It would report directly to the NCLC's intelligence director, Criton Zoakos. Its duties would include forming collaborative relationships with specialists at the Atomic Energy Commission's "CTR division, laboratories, universities, and so forth," using the FEF as a "vehicle" when appropriate. LaRouche suggested organizing "ad hoc meetings of working discussion groups" in order to "accelerate the useful exchange of knowledge," but urged the science section to be very careful in its handling of these "sensitive relationships."

In 1975 a top FEF officer traveled to Moscow, supposedly to attend a scientific conference. He was welcomed even though the official line of the Communist Party USA and the Soviet press was that the CIA controlled the LaRouche organization. Meanwhile, LaRouche developed an elaborate espionage philosophy to provide an alibi for dealing privately with the Soviets. The NCLC was the "open channel" through which the KGB could pass "policy-relevant" information to the CIA, and vice versa. The NCLC didn't have to tell the CIA about these meetings; all it had to do was transmit the information over its telex lines. The National Security Agency monitored the lines and would automatically pick it up. As to anything secret the NCLC might learn from American scientists, not to worry--the NCLC was totally surrounded by government agents. Anything secret it learned would be something planted by the CIA because it wanted the KGB to get it through the open channel. Such information would be either disinformation or "policy-relevant."

Somewhere in this fantasy the idea of guarding national security secrets was entirely lost. It became permissible to transmit anything to anybody, because everything was just a dog and pony show. When two Soviet spies were arrested in New Jersey in 1977, New Solidarity declared them to be innocent and claimed that the NCLC had been dealing with them. The Soviet spies were not really spies but "conduits," and one of their "major functions" had been the "transmission of USLP/NCLC materials" to Moscow. This wasn't questionable behavior on the NCLC's part, for the materials had been "prepackaged by elements of the U.S. intelligence community as part of existing courtesy arrangements between the Soviet and U.S. intelligence services." Just why the Soviet spies were arrested if they were part of a "courtesy" channel was not made clear. But it is curious that New Solidarity's extraordinary revelation did not lead to any trouble with the Justice Department, just as LaRouche's threat that same year to kill Carter led to no trouble with the Secret Service. Already the pattern was establishing itself that LaRouche could fantasize and do whatever he pleased without any fear of consequences.

An equally suspicious incident was described in a 1981 NCLC internal memorandum signed by LaRouche security aide Paul Goldstein. After referring to a "certain [Soviet] UN contact" and the need for "clear channels into the Soviets," the memo mentioned trips by FEF scientists to Moscow for ''scientific collaboration." During one such trip an FEF representative, whom the memo identified only as "the man without shoes," prepared a ninety-page report for the Soviets "on the U.S. scientific community." The Soviets "found the information given to them quite useful." Although the memo expressed concern over a possible "national security problem," it contained a boast that "our open policy commitment to public cooperation with the Soviets on scientific and related questions makes our defense nearly airtight." In fact, there had been several FEF trips to Moscow following the 1975 opener. In December 1978, Chuck Stevens, well known among American fusion scientists for his wide-ranging gossip on research contracts, promotions, and job changes in the fusion (and later the Star Wars) community, attended a laser physics conference in Moscow along with another FEF representative. On another visit an FEF physicist was given a tour of the Soviet science complex near Novosibirsk in Siberia--and later gave a slide show on it at NCLC headquarters.

By the early 1980s LaRouche's scientific intelligence gathering and its possible Soviet links had become a cause for concern to Generals Keegan and Graham and the Heritage Foundation. Keegan warned in a 1984 interview that the LaRouchians had penetrated "every private and government organization in the United States" involved in fusion research. "I have observed with a sense of mounting shock," he said, "their success in eliciting what I thought was sensitive information." John Bosma, editor of Military Space magazine, echoed Keegan’s view. He said that in 1981, when he was on the staff of the House Armed Services Committee, a LaRouche follower approached him seeking to find out the Cruise missile's odometer range, a closely guarded military secret.

The LaRouche organization's relationship with the Soviet Union ranged beyond military and scientific matters. Former NCLC intelligence staffer Kevin Coogan writes that in 1979 LaRouche met in West Germany with Julian Semenov, a Soviet spy novelist widely believed to be linked to the KGB. Semenov asked the LaRouchians to investigate the disappearance of a czarist treasure looted by the Nazis. The LaRouchians found no treasure, but they did publish an EIR teaser about it. They also published an article by Semenov on the Kennedy assassination. (Predictably, he speculated that Peking was involved.) Another key Soviet contact was Ioni Andronov, a correspondent for Literaturnaya Gazeta. Andronov frequently chatted with Paul Goldstein, whom he occasionally quoted as a counterintelligencc expert. In one interview Goldstein told Andronov he thought the so-called Bulgarian role in the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul was a hoax. On this point he was probably right, but he went on to suggest that the CIA might have been involved--an allegation for which there is no evidence whatsoever.

According to Coogan, the LaRouchians met regularly with Soviet officials in Washington as late as 1983.
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Shanken, I like you and I like your posts. I have a couple of questions for you.

I know that you are anti communist, as I am. When it comes to Russia, I'm not so sure why you are focused on them. Britian is the hotbed of communism and I feel Obama is THEIR puppet. Certainly, Britain has a long history of involvement with communism in Russia, to the detriment of the Russian people.

While Britain, and the Rothschilds, are at the center of the one world government (along with the global warming bullshit), it seems like Putin and Mededvev are nationalists and are always attacked by the white Russian hating British communists. What are your thoughts on all of this?




My comment on this is that there is a thread at TFP forum right now in which Lyndon LaRouche's background as a communist and Soviet agent is exposed. I know if you were to read the information you would understand my position and you would be forced to change yours.
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I'm well aware that LaRouche is a flaming FDR loving pinko. That doesn't change my opinion on Britain.
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Very interesting. So LaRouche is a conservative communist and he is against the radical trotskyites? I know that LaRouche was working for the cia in the 60's destroying radical organizations on college campuses.

Did you know that J. Edgar Hoover called the cia the Communist Infiltration Agency?
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And just what, we as Americans, are we suppose to do with this information?
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What does LaRouche have to do with this Obama story?

For the record, while I know that LaRouche is a hard core socialist, I find his criticisms of the monarchy to be interesting. That said, as an American, I take my lead from Thomas Jefferson, Sam Adams, James Madison, and RON PAUL!

Fuck the communists, the British, fascism, and all of the Eurotrash and Islam.
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Britian is the hotbed of communism
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Amazing the comedy people pass off as truth.
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Hey HL

I am with you on many of your posts. What is the best book to read about the soviet takeover of US?

PS Have you read Red Mafia?
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I haven't read that one and I would have a hard time recommending a single book which adequately explains our situation. I know that for me it all started with reading the short Nyquist essay which I have linked in my signature and from there on to internet searches of Golitsyn, Gramsci, etc, and then to scouring used bookstores for books on the USSR, communism, the cold war, military strategy, deception, etc. I just don't think anyone can grasp where we are unless they know the mind of Lenin, have a grasp of the dialectic, have a solid footing in knowing history, and, as important as anything, knowledge that in order to be deceived, the victim must desire to be deceived, and we must admit that we have been deceived.

I would start with You Can Trust the Communists by Dr. Fred Schwartz.


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Very interesting. So LaRouche is a conservative communist and he is against the radical trotskyites? I know that LaRouche was working for the cia in the 60's destroying radical organizations on college campuses.

Did you know that J. Edgar Hoover called the cia the Communist Infiltration Agency?
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LOL. Speaks volumes, speaks volumes.
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Hey HL

I am with you on many of your posts. What is the best book to read about the soviet takeover of US?

PS Have you read Red Mafia?



I haven't read that one and I would have a hard time recommending a single book which adequately explains our situation. I know that for me it all started with reading the short Nyquist essay which I have linked in my signature and from there on to internet searches of Golitsyn, Gramsci, etc, and then to scouring used bookstores for books on the USSR, communism, the cold war, military strategy, deception, etc. I just don't think anyone can grasp where we are unless they know the mind of Lenin, have a grasp of the dialectic, have a solid footing in knowing history, and, as important as anything, knowledge that in order to be deceived, the victim must desire to be deceived, and we must admit that we have been deceived.

I would start with You Can Trust the Communists by Dr. Fred Schwartz.


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HL! i'm glad to see your still around my friend, i remember you from the aol chat room you ran years ago