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Anonymous Coward User ID: 868848 United States 01/27/2010 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After doing the research and finding the records.. her Cherokee ancestor was actually verified with evidence. Quoting: alan LouBowskiwhat kind of evidence? seems hard to prove one's native american ancestry due to poor record keeping at the time. I didnt write that found it online and pasted |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 867355 United States 01/27/2010 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After doing the research and finding the records.. her Cherokee ancestor was actually verified with evidence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 868848what kind of evidence? seems hard to prove one's native american ancestry due to poor record keeping at the time. I didnt write that found it online and pasted The tribes could make more money, if they got a percentage of the DNA tests and would offer membership if over a certain marker. More people would try the testing then. I don't think the Native Americans want more members, though. |
theDtrain User ID: 633671 United States 01/27/2010 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | dine Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence." We can never shed our sins and regrets, only accumulate more, a burden that we grow and carry until our deaths. The best we can do is learn to live with ourselves, to accommodate our pasts |
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alan LouBowski User ID: 870346 United States 01/27/2010 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | do the 'asian shovel teeth'phenomena prove a link between the asian community and the native american community? (i ask because i had this discussion with someone who claims native americans have other roots and other routes of origin.) other than the ice bridge alaskan route theory i ascribe to. i will so pone you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 867355 United States 01/27/2010 05:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, I have the asian shovel teeth (that's what it's called) becuase supposedly just the native and asians have that behind the teeth. Quoting: alan LouBowskido the 'asian shovel teeth'phenomena prove a link between the asian community and the native american community? (i ask because i had this discussion with someone who claims native americans have other roots and other routes of origin.) other than the ice bridge alaskan route theory i ascribe to. I don't know, but when I first heard of it my friend, who claims no native and I felt behind our teeths (I know, gross!LOL), I was shocked at how hers where very straight not the hump at the top. I thought everyones were like mine. I would have to think that if it is only found in asian and native american populations there would have to be some kind of link somewhere, but that's me just guessing. |
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Ethericplane User ID: 870633 United States 01/27/2010 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had three previous lifetimes as a Nez Perce warrior. Does that count? So did my best friend, according to his psychic. That's me, the second picture in from the top left, on the following link, [link to images.google.com] I have no idea whose riding me. |
Vesper User ID: 860438 United States 01/27/2010 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, I have the asian shovel teeth (that's what it's called) becuase supposedly just the native and asians have that behind the teeth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 867355do the 'asian shovel teeth'phenomena prove a link between the asian community and the native american community? (i ask because i had this discussion with someone who claims native americans have other roots and other routes of origin.) other than the ice bridge alaskan route theory i ascribe to. Yes. And grey ear wax. I don't know, but when I first heard of it my friend, who claims no native and I felt behind our teeths (I know, gross!LOL), I was shocked at how hers where very straight not the hump at the top. I thought everyones were like mine. I would have to think that if it is only found in asian and native american populations there would have to be some kind of link somewhere, but that's me just guessing. Last Edited by >esper on 01/27/2010 05:27 PM "I am searching for the bones of your father but cannot distinguish them from those of a slave." Diogenes "Some have little power to do good, and have likewise little strength to resist evil" (Samuel Johnson). "The basic difference between an ordinary man and a warrior is that a warrior takes everything as a challenge, while an ordinary man takes everything as a blessing or as a curse."--Don Juan |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 825664 United States 01/27/2010 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had three previous lifetimes as a Nez Perce warrior. Does that count? So did my best friend, according to his psychic. Quoting: Ethericplane 870633That's me, the second picture in from the top left, on the following link, [link to images.google.com] I have no idea whose riding me. LOL! |
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alan LouBowski User ID: 870346 United States 01/27/2010 05:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tribes could make more money, if they got a percentage of the DNA tests and would offer membership if over a certain marker. More people would try the testing then. I don't think the Native Americans want more members, though. is that what's going on? a rush to be tribal to make money in gambling? i really am ignorant here, sorry. i will so pone you |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 867355 United States 01/27/2010 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The tribes could make more money, if they got a percentage of the DNA tests and would offer membership if over a certain marker. More people would try the testing then. I don't think the Native Americans want more members, though. is that what's going on? a rush to be tribal to make money in gambling? i really am ignorant here, sorry. HEHE! That's exactly why I don't think they really want more members! More to have to share with. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 875779 United States 01/27/2010 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if your face is pale and you follow a religion from europe, asia or africa your are not native american, i'm tired of hearing all these pale faces, some with blue eyes and even blond hair, claim they have native american ancestry who cares if your great grandfather raped or kidnapped a native american women you are not native american, you are white. you either look like a native american and are native american, or you look like some other ethnicity and you are some other ethnicity. |
alan LouBowski User ID: 870346 United States 01/27/2010 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had three previous lifetimes as a Nez Perce warrior. Does that count? So did my best friend, according to his psychic. Quoting: Ethericplane 870633That's me, the second picture in from the top left, on the following link, [link to images.google.com] I have no idea whose riding me. i dont know who you are in this link, but 'eliza' is gorgeous! i will so pone you |
nicole User ID: 862557 United States 01/27/2010 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | potawatomi here :) "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -Thomas Jefferson [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 866004 United States 01/27/2010 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone is always a Cherokee. If you had genetic testing you would probably be very surprised with the result. It is common knowledge that most white people who claim Cherokee blood really have black ancestor and the same is true for black. Back in the day it was much more socially acceptable to claim a Cherokee ancestor then it was to be Mixed Black/White. Most Indians are in on this age old joke. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 866004 United States 01/27/2010 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone is always a Cherokee. If you had genetic testing you would probably be very surprised with the result. It is common knowledge that most white people who claim Cherokee blood really have black ancestor and the same is true for black. Back in the day it was much more socially acceptable to claim a Cherokee ancestor then it was to be Mixed Black/White. Most Indians are in on this age old joke. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 866004 United States 01/27/2010 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if your face is pale and you follow a religion from europe, asia or africa your are not native american, i'm tired of hearing all these pale faces, some with blue eyes and even blond hair, claim they have native american ancestry who cares if your great grandfather raped or kidnapped a native american women you are not native american, you are white. you either look like a native american and are native american, or you look like some other ethnicity and you are some other ethnicity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 875779I know blond hair blue eyed people with a 1/4 indian ancestory who are recognized as full members of their tribes. Native peoples are more accepting then racist trash like yourself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 875779 United States 01/27/2010 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if your face is pale and you follow a religion from europe, asia or africa your are not native american, i'm tired of hearing all these pale faces, some with blue eyes and even blond hair, claim they have native american ancestry who cares if your great grandfather raped or kidnapped a native american women you are not native american, you are white. you either look like a native american and are native american, or you look like some other ethnicity and you are some other ethnicity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 866004I know blond hair blue eyed people with a 1/4 indian ancestory who are recognized as full members of their tribes. Native peoples are more accepting then racist trash like yourself. native people should be less accepting if they want to preserve themselves, true native american leaders like sitting bull are angry due to this. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 866183 United States 01/27/2010 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had three previous lifetimes as a Nez Perce warrior. Does that count? So did my best friend, according to his psychic. Quoting: Ethericplane 870633That's me, the second picture in from the top left, on the following link, [link to images.google.com] I have no idea whose riding me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 867355 United States 01/27/2010 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More on the Melungeon: PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS that are being found among some Melungeon descendants: There are some physiological characteristics which are called ethnic markers, that seem to be passed on through the lines of some Melungeon descendants. There is a bump on the back of the HEAD of SOME descendants, that is located at mid-line, just ABOVE the juncture with the neck. It is about the size and shape of half a golf ball or smaller. This is called an ANATOLIAN BUMP, and indicates ancestry from the Anatolian region of Turkey. If you cannot find the bump, check to see if you, like some descendants, including myself, have a ridge, located at the base of the head where it joins the neck, rather than the Anatolian bump. This ridge is an enlargement of the base of the skull, which is called a Central Asian Cranial Ridge. My ridge is quite noticeable. It is larger than anyone else's that I have felt, except my father's. I can lay one finger under it and the ridge is as deep as my finger is thick. Other ridges are smaller. To find a ridge, place your hand at the base of your neck where it joins your shoulders, and on the center line of your spine. Run your fingers straight up your neck toward your head. If you have a ridge, it will stop your fingers from going on up and across your head. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 867355 United States 01/27/2010 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More on the Melungeon: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 867355PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS that are being found among some Melungeon descendants: There are some physiological characteristics which are called ethnic markers, that seem to be passed on through the lines of some Melungeon descendants. There is a bump on the back of the HEAD of SOME descendants, that is located at mid-line, just ABOVE the juncture with the neck. It is about the size and shape of half a golf ball or smaller. This is called an ANATOLIAN BUMP, and indicates ancestry from the Anatolian region of Turkey. If you cannot find the bump, check to see if you, like some descendants, including myself, have a ridge, located at the base of the head where it joins the neck, rather than the Anatolian bump. This ridge is an enlargement of the base of the skull, which is called a Central Asian Cranial Ridge. My ridge is quite noticeable. It is larger than anyone else's that I have felt, except my father's. I can lay one finger under it and the ridge is as deep as my finger is thick. Other ridges are smaller. To find a ridge, place your hand at the base of your neck where it joins your shoulders, and on the center line of your spine. Run your fingers straight up your neck toward your head. If you have a ridge, it will stop your fingers from going on up and across your head. From the above report: 8.3 % Asians 4.4 % Africans 1.2 % Egyptians 33.8 % Anatolian ____ 47.7 % of the people w/ EOP come from the Anatolian region of what is now Turkey, Central Asia, and North Africa. I personally believe that this gives us a very good idea of where the trait being found among Melungeon descendants comes from. See the following diagram for the site of both the ridge and bump. Back of Head \lllllllllllllllllllllllll/ ears ( ___x___ ) ears x marks the bump's location \valley / the ridge is the line __ shown \ / neck / \__shoulders |