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Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.

 
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Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
Nah, seriously folks, check-out this link.
[link to scienceblogs.com]

The waxing and waning crescents reflect the sunshine at opposite ends, yet in both lunar phases the Moon is before the Sun and therefore the sunlight should reflect at the same spherical angle.

This other link provides a better illustration for the scientific indoctrinated mind.
[link to www.moonconnection.com]

Can anyone explain this reasonably and of course with scientific logic, lol.

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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
[link to sankeyscience.org] Moon with circles.jpg
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[link to img.photobucket.com]

[link to www.owlnet.rice.edu]

[link to scienceblogs.com]

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[link to sankeyscience.org]
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Quite simple.
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
Punisher's lost even the ability to speak in English.

Who knows what stupid idea is going through his pea brain now?
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
The Earth reflects sunlight towards the Moon lightning it up
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
the moon is always lit up from that direction that the sunlight is coming from. the diagram is simply showing you that the moon has revolved to the other side of Earth.
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
...in both lunar phases the Moon is before the Sun...
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If this means what I think he meant it to mean...

Wrong.

The waxing Moon trails the Sun. The waning Moon precedes the Sun.
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
The waxing Moon trails the Sun. The waning Moon precedes the Sun.
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Can you expand on this NLI because you seem to be always on target, and while you're at it please also explain why the crescents are at an angle.

[link to fromthefrontporch.com]
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
The waxing Moon trails the Sun. The waning Moon precedes the Sun.

Can you expand on this NLI because you seem to be always on target, and while you're at it please also explain why the crescents are at an angle.

[link to fromthefrontporch.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 877224


The crescent is at an angle because the path of the Moon and Sun are at an angle. We live on a spherical Earth. Someone in Canada is "at an angle" to someone in Ecuador.

Imagine a projection of the Earth's equator as a giant record, cutting the Earth in two. Roughly speaking, the path of the Moon and Sun lie along that record. If you were at the equator yourself, the Sun and Moon would seem to pass directly overhead from due East to due West.

If you aren't at the equator, then "directly overhead" is at an angle to that plane of orbit. The path of the Sun and Moon will not pass directly overhead, but will cut across the sky at an angle.

The crescent of the Moon is merely pointing along its own orbit. It isn't at an angle. YOU are.
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
Can you expand on this NLI because you seem to be always on target, and while you're at it please also explain why the crescents are at an angle.

[link to fromthefrontporch.com]




The crescent is at an angle because the path of the Moon and Sun are at an angle.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

Two points will never make an angle.

S-------------------------M

S = sun

M = moon.

We live on a spherical Earth. Someone in Canada is "at an angle" to someone in Ecuador.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

People in Ecuador see the same exact moon phases like the people of Canada.

If you have ever traveled outside your mom's basement and into foreign countries on different continents you would have made this observation and saved yourself exposing your inexperience.

Imagine a projection of the Earth's equator as a giant record, cutting the Earth in two. Roughly speaking, the path of the Moon and Sun lie along that record. If you were at the equator yourself, the Sun and Moon would seem to pass directly overhead from due East to due West.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

You're just a good story teller. Tell me the one about the Bistro where you had dinner with a boyfriend and missed the Venus sighting but caught Jupiter on the drive home with your 2.5cm telescope. I love that story.

The crescent of the Moon is merely pointing along its own orbit. It isn't at an angle. YOU are.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

People don't walk on an angle. If you're past the equator-line and the moon is overhead Canada, people Argentina won't see the same moon we see at night, but they do.

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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
Two points will never make an angle.

S-------------------------M

S = sun

M = moon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878846


Yes; the crescent of the Moon always points towards the Sun, regardless of whether it is waxing or waning. Draw a line between them, and the terminator will be at right angles to that line. That's invariant, regardless of where you view it from.



People in Ecuador see the same exact moon phases like the people of Canada.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878846


Also true....although they do NOT see the Moon in the same position in the sky (a moment's thought would reveal this to you.)

If you have ever traveled outside your mom's basement and into foreign countries on different continents you would have made this observation and saved yourself exposing your inexperience.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878846


I suppose England, France, Japan, Indonesia, as well as Alaska, Canada, and 47 of the 50 states doesn't count.

Perhaps you might want to read the question I was responding to. And then you might be able to understand my answer.




People don't walk on an angle. If you're past the equator-line and the moon is overhead Canada, people Argentina won't see the same moon we see at night, but they do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878846


Wrong. People walk around with their feet pointed at the center of the Earth. The Earth is round. Therefore, anyone at a different latitude (or longitude!) than you is, from your perspective, at an angle.

I know it is hard to think in three dimensions. But most of us can do it.
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
Yes; the crescent of the Moon always points towards the Sun, regardless of whether it is waxing or waning. Draw a line between them, and the terminator will be at right angles to that line. That's invariant, regardless of where you view it from.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

Doesn't explain why we see the crescent of the moon sliced at an angle. What you just ranted off explains the following Pinocchio NASA depiction.

[link to www.owlnet.rice.edu]

The reality of the matter is we see the following, and when I say we, I mean everyone on God's green earth.

[link to images.easyart.com]
[link to fromthefrontporch.com]

People in Ecuador see the same exact moon phases like the people of Canada.



Also true....although they do NOT see the Moon in the same position in the sky (a moment's thought would reveal this to you.)
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

You've never traveled.

The People in Ecuador see the following. Just like the people of Canada, and every other country of the World.

[link to sankeyscience.org]

If you have ever traveled outside your mom's basement and into foreign countries on different continents you would have made this observation and saved yourself exposing your inexperience.



I suppose England, France, Japan, Indonesia, as well as Alaska, Canada, and 47 of the 50 states doesn't count.

Perhaps you might want to read the question I was responding to. And then you might be able to understand my answer.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

You've never been to any of those countries -- the lunar crescent phases look like the following there too.
[link to sankeyscience.org]

People don't walk on an angle.



Wrong.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

LOL -- hf

If you're past the equator-line and the moon is overhead Canada, people Argentina won't see the same moon we see at night, but they do.



People walk around with their feet pointed at the center of the Earth. The Earth is round. Therefore, anyone at a different latitude (or longitude!) than you is, from your perspective, at an angle.

I know it is hard to think in three dimensions. But most of us can do it.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

The Earth isn't round by your own admission in this case, the people living in the southern hemisphere namely Argentina could never see the moon if it were overhead in Canada (northern hemisphere), but they do, and they see same moon we see at night with the same exact lunar phases.

Thanks for finally disclosing the earth isn't round.

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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
Good God. You are NOT looking at the moon, the sun and the earth from ~space~. You are looking at the moon or the sun (or sometimes both) from the surface of earth. iamwith
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
Good God. You are NOT looking at the moon, the sun and the earth from ~space~. You are looking at the moon or the sun (or sometimes both) from the surface of earth. iamwith
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 854954

Doesn't explain why we see the crescent of the moon sliced at an angle. What you just ranted off explains the following Pinocchio NASA depiction.

[link to www.owlnet.rice.edu]

The reality of the matter is we see the following, and when I say we, I mean everyone on God's green earth.

[link to images.easyart.com]

[link to fromthefrontporch.com]

peace
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
Look at the following pic.
[link to www.owlnet.rice.edu]

No matter where you are on the earth (north/south) you would see the moon crescent sliced upright, because the moon is facing the sun and reflecting its light, lol, I could never write that with breaking a laugh, but I digress, the reality though is that we see the crescent sliced at an angle, why?

[link to sankeyscience.org]
[link to images.easyart.com]
[link to fromthefrontporch.com]
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The many faces of Punisher.
The many faces of Punisher.
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
The Earth isn't round by your own admission in this case, the people living in the southern hemisphere namely Argentina could never see the moon if it were overhead in Canada (northern hemisphere), but they do, and they see same moon we see at night with the same exact lunar phases.

Thanks for finally disclosing the earth isn't round.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 878846



The Moon is far away, Punisher.

[link to www.youtube.com]

At any moment, a little less than 1/2 the people on Earth are in position to see the Moon (although it may be daylight where they are, and hence difficult to see.)
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
The Moon is far away, Punisher.

[link to www.youtube.com]

At any moment, a little less than 1/2 the people on Earth are in position to see the Moon (although it may be daylight where they are, and hence difficult to see.)
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

LOL -- even if the moon is far away, its far away in the Northern skies, people living in the south (argentina) only see what's in the southern skies, and therewith can't see the Moon in the Northern skies, because that's not their SKY.

Prediction, you'll say something stupid like you were once traveling through Argentina and caught the Space-shuttle launching through the Floridian skies with your 2.5cm telescope because that's how insane your cop-out reply was.

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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
LOL -- even if the moon is far away, its far away in the Northern skies, people living in the south (argentina) only see what's in the southern skies, and therewith can't see the Moon in the Northern skies, because that's not their SKY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 564976


More absolutism.

The Moon ISN'T over the Northern Hemisphere. It is over the Equator. It can be viewed equally well from the Northern or the Southern Hemisphere.

The hemisphere of importance here is the one defined by the Moon's current position. If the Moon is over Greenwich, it is probably not visible from Midway Island. Those locations are on approximately opposite sides of the globe.

But North or South makes no difference; the greatest distance you can get from the Equator by moving North or South is 90 degrees. That means it is possible for someone above the Arctic Circle (or below the Antarctic) to have the Moon below their local horizon -- but given flat terrain, it could be seen simultaneously right on the horizon by someone at each pole.
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
More absolutism.

The Moon ISN'T over the Northern Hemisphere. It is over the Equator. It can be viewed equally well from the Northern or the Southern Hemisphere.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

LOL -- Your lies are exposed with every reply. hf

The Moon is over the Equator?


So how does the FULL MOON shine with your fairy-tale sunshine when that particular lunar cycle takes place behind the earth if the little ol' moon is on the Equator smack in the middle of the big earth sheltered and shaded from the Sun?

[link to scienceblogs.com]

Yours and your science's dilemma is that there is no perfect crime.

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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
So how does the FULL MOON shine with your fairy-tale sunshine when that particular lunar cycle takes place behind the earth if the little ol' moon is on the Equator smack in the middle of the big earth sheltered and shaded from the Sun?


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It isn't shaded by the Earth. The Earth is too far away to shade it for more than a tiny portion of it's orbit. And you probably forgot that there is a slight inclination of the Moon's orbit to the ecliptic; only five degrees, not enough to make a difference in the gross descriptions we've been making here, but enough to ensure it almost never passes through Earth's shadow.

Once again, you are unable to think in terms of the actual scale and geometry of the Solar System.

(The Earth's axis is also tilted 23 degrees to the ecliptic, but that doesn't change the Earth-Sun-Moon alignment. Still, technically, the Moon is not directly over the Equator but somewhere in a band of 40 degrees or so. Still, close enough for the approximation I was making above.)

If I, or "Science," were trying to bafflegab, we'd make up a simpler answer that would seem more obviously consistent. Alas, we are more interested in reality, with all its complexities.

In any case, your question above is based, just like your earlier interpretation that the Moon can not be seen from two different continents at the same time, on an idea that seemingly the Moon is two hundred feet in diameter and hovers over the ground at perhaps five miles altitude.

IF the Moon were as small and low as your fictional sources would have it, then, yes, there would be the kinds of visual effects you describe.

Alas, the Moon is thirty Earth diameters away.
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
It isn't shaded by the Earth. The Earth is too far away to shade it for more than a tiny portion of it's orbit. And you probably forgot that there is a slight inclination of the Moon's orbit to the ecliptic; only five degrees, not enough to make a difference in the gross descriptions we've been making here, but enough to ensure it almost never passes through Earth's shadow.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

Take a look at this diagram.

[link to scienceblogs.com]


B-diagram would indicate that the Moon being so far away would in fact be over the Earth due to its distance, making the Pinocchio theory viable on arrested and believe all what the establishment tells you mind.

If the above depiction were true then everyone on a round (E)arth would have a direct view of the (M)oon as observed and seen by everyone no matter where you live on the six continents. Because two points will never make an angle, and therewith, there would no obstruction impeding its view for an observer standing at the surface of the round earth.


E-------------------------M

E = earth

M = moon


The same would be true for all the stellar bodies and constellations, we would see all the constellations, and see them every-night, 7/365, because two point will never make an angle, and therewith, there would no obstruction impeding its view for an observer standing at the surface of the round earth.


E-------------------------C

E = earth

C = constellations


We can only see the 12 constellations at certain times of the year because the stars follow the sun on a flat earth as the CREATOR designed it (BoE), and as the sun rides the small to its largest of solar rings some of the stellar bodies are seen depending on the season and others aren't.

[link to homepage.mac.com]

Once again, you are unable to think in terms of the actual scale and geometry of the Solar System.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

LOOK-UP! hf

It is you that believes anything and everything the establishment imprints into your mind, however ridiculous it is, you eat it up and lick the plate.

If I, or "Science," were trying to bafflegab, we'd make up a simpler answer that would seem more obviously consistent. Alas, we are more interested in reality, with all its complexities.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

LOL -- thanks for the late afternoon laugh.

lmao

In any case, your question above is based, just like your earlier interpretation that the Moon can not be seen from two different continents at the same time, on an idea that seemingly the Moon is two hundred feet in diameter and hovers over the ground at perhaps five miles altitude.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

I never said this.

IF the Moon were as small and low as your fictional sources would have it, then, yes, there would be the kinds of visual effects you describe.

Alas, the Moon is thirty Earth diameters away.
 Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211

And I never suggested this either. I guess two more lies to the already tens of thousands in your name won't make a difference at this point, might as well go big!

peace
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Re: Why does the Waxing Moon reflect the sunshine opposite then the Waning Moon? -- Both lunar phases are positioned before the Sun.
Take a look at this diagram.

[link to scienceblogs.com]

B-diagram would indicate that the Moon being so far away would in fact be over the Earth due to its distance, making the Pinocchio theory viable on arrested and believe all what the establishment tells you mind.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 880297


As we've been describing. You mean you look at Diagram B and you still think the Moon is within Earth's shadow?

Yes, the Moon is "over" the Earth. It is far enough away so the only thing that can block your view of the Moon is the horizon itself.



If the above depiction were true then everyone on a round (E)arth would have a direct view of the (M)oon as observed and seen by everyone no matter where you live on the six continents. Because two points will never make an angle, and therewith, there would no obstruction impeding its view for an observer standing at the surface of the round earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 880297


Everyone on HALF of the round Earth, Gepetto. For the other half, the Earth is in the way.

That's how we get night, by the way. We would be able to see the Sun at night, except for the Earth getting in the way.

Half the Earth can see the Sun at any one time. Half the Earth can see the Moon at any one time. (It isn't the same half, though).
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Why do you keep asking stupid questions about the moon phases?
Why don't you just take a ball(for the moon), another ball, 6xtimes as big as the first(for earth) and a lamp(for the sun) and try it yourself?
That is how you can get knowledge: by doing experiments.
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excellent thread
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Folks, the OP is Punisher...the biggest troll on GLP.

Ignore the idiot.
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It's an ancient moon tint applied just as a window tint to keep the human peeping toms from seeing what rituals go on during the new moon phase.........We are damn near looking up the moon's ass now. We already gave it an enema with that missile back in November....Sorry moon.

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