High speed trains will not stimulate the economy.

have you ever seen the episode of the simpsons with the Monorail? Obama reminds me of the guy in that episode

No kidding.
They want to put these high speed rails down here in Florida.
But, my question is, I take the high speed rail to Tampa how do I get around once I get there?
They have no subway and I'll be damned if I'm taking the bus.
This shit is not thought out at all.
There should be a local train system at the destination or no one is going to ride on this.

But they'll rush the human cattle cars to the fema camps.

Agree that NASA should be saved because a lot of research comes out of it which often translates into products. Of course it doesn't help our economy if those products end up getting made in India or China, but it does benefit us.

I like the idea of high speed trains if for no other reason than it would get us off the awful plane/airport experience. Do trains for most domestic travel and airplanes for the international travel. Would likely decrease air pollution as well.

A hundred years ago we had the best train system in the world. The rail beds are still there but obviously new tracts or magnetic tracts need to be laid which will provide a lot of jobs. Only problem is that many of the people out of their jobs know nothing about doing physical labor because they were office workers. Many others are just too old to be doing that kind of outside work.

Good train travel would be far better than flying steerage(coach) in the cramped planes that now offer no amentities. Extra cars can always be added during the peak seasons like the end of the year holidays and summer vacation times.

They could even bring back the old Pullman style sleeping bunks cars as a cheaper alternative to a private sleeping room which they can still offer.

right and they are not cheap to ride on either. china will put up capitol and japan will make the the trains. americans will lay tracks .lol right.????? after all we in america are not alowed to make the trains and hire our workers for that job.. we live in a global world now..

It'd be cool though.

Europe and other evolved continents, have alternative transportation to cars. I get such a kick out of the way this fucking country gives us ZERO options and then tells us we are "addicted to oil". No fucktards, we aren't. We're given one option: Cars. No other system has EVER been offered.

Trains are great in certain circumstances, but I do not see the benefits of having such trains in the US. Our mode of transportation is primarily car based. I do not see this changing at all.

I can only see these things being useful if one is traveling farther than 400 miles. Otherwise, I think it's just a waste. People will use their cars instead.

Another poster mentioned that this was not well thought out, and I must agree. It wasn't thought out at all in my opinion. I think there was a hidden agenda.

Walk in the daily severe thunderstorm at 95 degrees for the 5 miles between the train depot and your place of work you wimp. Do it now. Do it for Mr. President just to prove to everyone how right he is. ... can I take out some life insurance on you by the way? You won't get struck by lightening or die of pneumonia, really.

I lived in FL for a year.

Yes, that's true, but if given the choice, would we make the transition? I think we like our cars. We are addicted to oil, and given the choice to change, would we?

I don't think this is the intended purpose of these high speed trains. They are not meant to replace buses.

I like cars, but in places like Germany, the car isn't needed and Americans are a bunch of fat asses that could stand to walk more. The average European walks 286 miles a year, and the average American walks 70.

And there's no fat people there, over here half the country is obese.

I think this is about NEED.

Do we need a high speed train system? No, absolutely not!

However, NASA is in great need of revamping, and the space industry needs to be given our full attention. This is the key to our success. We are pioneers, and we should continue to be pioneers. Space is the next frontier.

The answer is not terrestrial, but extraterrestrial. Therein lies the keys to our salvation.

Well, instead of raising the BS flag, why not try to offer your opinion on this issue. Are you capable of an intelligent response?

You are right - they will only get you to the FEMA camp faster !

The car industry bought out the rail network in the 70s, then ran it into the ground. Who needs trains when you can waste gas like there is no tomorrow...?

Americans enjoy the convenience of having a car. Nobody will use the trains as an alternative to cars. If this was its intended purpose then they've totally missed the mark.

Actually, up until the late 1950's there were railroad passenger trains going from everywhere to anywhere. Businesses adjusted the workhours to the train schedules. Trains adjusted their schedules to accomodate major businesses. Cooperation by both to the profit of both. I remember travelling on train from my town in MA of 700 to Fitchburg when I was very young just to go shopping even though we had a family car. Passenger trains used to go between Winchendon, MA and Baldwinville, MA, two bodunk micro-speck towns several times a day. Tracks were right behind my house. I lived it.

Then they ripped up all the tracks throughout the entire country suddenly (over a couple years) and sold all the steel.

I live near the proposed Tampa to Orlando rail route.

Once it's complete, my options will be:

A) Drive for an hour to either Tampa or Lakeland, find parking, then ride the train for 45 minutes to Orlando where I can either walk or ride a bus to my final destination.

B) Drive straight to my destination in Orlando in about 60-70 minutes.

If you want to stimulate the economy the best way would be to put all our effort into funding new space technology, and rebuilding NASA. Not only will this add more highly skilled, well paid jobs, but it will also stimulate the economy, and offer a sense of national pride that we've lost.

How about both? A way will be needed to move supplies and materials fast and efficiently so why not trains too?

But, my question is, I take the high speed rail to Tampa how do I get around once I get there?

How about using rental cars or more public transportation such as buses and taxis?

This was on another thread already but it really is an important issue and something positive to focus on instead of all the name calling and blaming that goes on. I will post that thread again

Thread: WTF !! OBAMA ANNOUNCE 13 LINES OF HIGH SPEED TRAINS !!

And why always the focus on the economy? You can't eat money. We are all brainwashed into thinking it is the most important thing in the universe and that it is a living breathing entity that needs to coddled. Let it die!

When you think about, most of us have busted our asses for this money stuff that mysteriously disappears into nothingness. You slaved for your whole life and then in a matter of weeks months everything you think you had or owned is gone, including your homes. At this point it does not take deep thinking to realize that we worked our lives for nothing or rather we did it all for free. Hell! You do not even "own" your atoms that you are temporary custodian to during your short life.

I posted a link to thevenusproject.com in that above thread and also proposed a search on D.U.M.B. (military bases) Mach Trains, and the Iarga.

So what if it may or may not be true, please just read and search for alternatives and alternative ways of thinking instead of blatant dismissal or attacking or blaming. This serves no purpose but miring us all in the muck.

Forgive and move forward.

Then work together to right what is wrong and build that Eden, heaven, utopian future we all desire deep down inside of ourselves.

The future is created in the now. We all know our thoughts create our reality. It is our imaginations that bring forth the thoughts that we then use our physical bodies to create and build things. Our brains make it all happen. If we waste our time in creative bickering and blaming, what kind of future are we creating? What a waste of brainpower.

I think we can see the results of what we have been doing and where we are being led now quite obviously.

Let's fix it.

I like choo choos!

rebuild NASA??? the nazi's don't need any more funding!

High speed trains would not really replace cars. It would however be a real alternative to planes and a far more comfy one at that. Can go from downtown to downtown instead of circling around airports for hours or sitting on the plane waiting for hours to take off. Add that to the flight time and you may as well take a train for an overnighter.

Also, can leave and travel in all but the worst snow storms and floods. No more thousands sleeping at the airports because of a snowstorm someplace or fog or high winds and rain.

Has the advantage of being used for both short and long distance trips.

Somebody lives near Orlando, FL.

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Yeah and as soon as people start actually using these trains, the train companies would start packing your asses in like sardines JUST LIKE the airlines, with all the attendant discomfort, then some camel banging ass bomber will blow one of those trains up, and you'll need to get half undressed before getting on a train and go thru THAT entire line of bullcrap too!

SSDD...

As mentioned above about the "off world" use of trains by the "iarga" ( [link to www.galactic-server.com] thought provoking read) whether true or not, there is no "packing in like sardines."

In fact you would have your own bullet car/cab on the track. The cabs would only be used as needed for hauling people or goods. When you get to your destination there would be more modes of transportation available. And they do this without charging the society anything of perceived value to use it. Really ingenious.

And I think I read in [link to thevenusproject.com] that we have the technology to do this already and in fact it may already be in use right below your feet. Search D.U.M.B. -deep underground military bases connected by "mach trains." That word "Mach" is the term for the speed of sound and is based on atmospheric temperature and pressure. Imagine how fast and easy a train could move on "maglev" in a vacuum.

Mono - doh