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THE RETURN OF THE DESTROYER, NIBIRU, PLANET X, DRAGON, DARK STAR, BROWN DWARF, ECT...

 
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only trust the ancients.... "i trust the ancients over all people"
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Here's another Russian rocket accident...

[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]
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rocket schlocket

Either swamp gas or weather balloon
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Here's another Russian rocket accident...

[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]
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Do you shills have nothing better to do? your explanation is pitiful.

The video series by Lucas all fits together, and you come up with "Rocket"? haha

The government truly have idiots working for them
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Here's another Russian rocket accident...

[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]



Do you shills have nothing better to do? your explanation is pitiful.

The video series by Lucas all fits together, and you come up with "Rocket"? haha

The government truly have idiots working for them
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I don't work for the government but I agree that it was a rocket. A bulava rocket launched from the white sea would appear in the Norweigan sky at third stage ignition exactly where the spiral appeared in the sky.

Got any evidence for CW Leonis being planet X yet?

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OMG the shills are everywhere today..

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Obama Information Czar Outlined Plan For Government To Infiltrate Conspiracy Groups
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OMG the shills are everywhere today..
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So when you can't argue with the information, slander the messenger? I love how you think anyone who disagrees with you and you can't disprove is a "shill."
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OMG the shills are everywhere today..

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I notice the shills like ... and ... hit the SPACE related threads extra hard.

They hate it when you tickle their underbelly
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OMG the shills are everywhere today..

So when you can't argue with the information, slander the messenger? I love how you think anyone who disagrees with you and you can't disprove is a "shill."
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What exactly are you disproving exactly?? Tell me what you think is false and back it up with some facts... Go ahead now.. !!
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OMG the shills are everywhere today..

So when you can't argue with the information, slander the messenger? I love how you think anyone who disagrees with you and you can't disprove is a "shill."
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Ok, I think I'd trust someone like Anthony Perrat over a nobody like you Astronut who refuses to acknowledge anything outside of his understanding as true. Your understanding is either very limited or lacking. He stated that it was a dense plasma instability event, he's done years of nuclear testing, super computer simulations and plasma experimentation to back up his claim. Who are you again?

"I don't work for the government" sound like famous last words. You could be working for contractors who are working for the government. You sure sound like a shill by the way you religiously go on about the spiral been a rocket test when clearly anyone with any capacity to think and see know it was no rocket. And the recent auroral sphere in China last month, also a rocket test? Hahahaha. You're so fucking stupid Astronutless.

The OP clearly stated he wasn't making any assumption or predictions, that the facts are separate from his beliefs. Sure his beliefs may be misguided and wrong but the facts he provides are not. Why are you attacking his beliefs, or rather the beliefs YOU claim he has, because you cannot dispute the facts, you cannot debate them, all you can do is destroy, disrupt and shift the focus.
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OMG the shills are everywhere today..

So when you can't argue with the information, slander the messenger? I love how you think anyone who disagrees with you and you can't disprove is a "shill."


What exactly are you disproving exactly?? Tell me what you think is false and back it up with some facts... Go ahead now.. !!
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Well I started by pointing out that IRAS DID NOT discover any planet X, and that the oft-cited infrared source used by planet X believers to scream at the top of their lungs that there's a 10th planet on microsoft WWT and google sky is actually a star known as CW Leonis. That's an easily verifiable fact.

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Who cares? What kind of idiotic response is that. It matters because it's not a planet. Fact. If you understand plasma, electricity and electrical conductivity you will begin to understand what dragons and serpents are, lightning, a form of plasma and other plasma instability events like the Norway spiral. Doesn't anyone remember the NASA article which admits we have dense plasma streaming into our solar system? Anthony's email came before the press release and NASA simply confirmed what he wrote to me.

Moot...

Preparation is key not arguing "what" it is.
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You must be insane or stupid, how do you prepare for something if you don't know what it going to happen? That's highly illogical and irrational.
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Who cares? What kind of idiotic response is that. It matters because it's not a planet. Fact. If you understand plasma, electricity and electrical conductivity you will begin to understand what dragons and serpents are, lightning, a form of plasma and other plasma instability events like the Norway spiral. Doesn't anyone remember the NASA article which admits we have dense plasma streaming into our solar system? Anthony's email came before the press release and NASA simply confirmed what he wrote to me.

Moot...

Preparation is key not arguing "what" it is.


You must be insane or stupid, how do you prepare for something if you don't know what it going to happen? That's highly illogical and irrational.
 Quoting: Xenus 869756

Ahhh...no. What's highly illogical and irrational is sitting here arguing about what when we already know the elites are preparing for big waves and a heat event...That's all you need to know.

You waste everyone's time arguing about moot points.
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Ok, I think I'd trust someone like Anthony Perrat over a nobody like you Astronut
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Continuing to prove my point...
who refuses to acknowledge anything outside of his understanding as true. Your understanding is either very limited or lacking. He stated that it was a dense plasma instability event, he's done years of nuclear testing, super computer simulations and plasma experimentation to back up his claim. Who are you again?
 Quoting: Xenus

Your fellow nuts on this thread don't even agree with you, much to my amusement, so why should I care what pet theory you subscribe to?
You sure sound like a shill by the way you religiously go on about the spiral been a rocket test when clearly anyone with any capacity to think and see know it was no rocket.
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And yet my own research showed that the event was completely consistent with a bulava rocket test launched from the white sea.
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
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The trajectory and performance of the missile is a match for the location of the spiral, which incidently moved through the sky as even a failed, spiraling rocket carried under its own inertia would:
[link to i319.photobucket.com]
The OP clearly stated he wasn't making any assumption or predictions, that the facts are separate from his beliefs. Sure his beliefs may be misguided and wrong but the facts he provides are not.
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Oh right, you have your own pet theory to peddle, but it's important that people still think nonsense like that IRAS detected an unknown planet in the solar system (oh sorry, it's not a planet, but somehow OP DOESN'T have his facts wrong in your opinion; contradict yourself much?).
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OMG the shills are everywhere today..

So when you can't argue with the information, slander the messenger? I love how you think anyone who disagrees with you and you can't disprove is a "shill."


What exactly are you disproving exactly?? Tell me what you think is false and back it up with some facts... Go ahead now.. !!

Well I started by pointing out that IRAS DID NOT discover any planet X, and that the oft-cited infrared source used by planet X believers to scream at the top of their lungs that there's a 10th planet on microsoft WWT and google sky is actually a star known as CW Leonis. That's an easily verifiable fact.
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IRAS was the first satellite to discover Infrared cirrus

Infrared cirrus are filamentary structures seen in infrared light. The name is given because the structure looks cloud-like in appearance. First detected by the Infrared Astronomy Satellite at wavelengths of 60 and 100 micrometres.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

A surprise discovery from the IRAS mission was that space is filled with faint wisps of dust which cannot be seen in visible light. This has been given the name "infrared cirrus" because it resembles the cirrus clouds in the Earth's atmosphere. Infrared cirrus is very cold (15-30 K or -433 to -406 F) and can only be detected in the infrared. Its temperature is due to dust grains being slightly heated by starlight.
[link to www.ipac.caltech.edu]

These objects were therefore "mystery objects", at least until the mysteries were solved in short order. These sources all turned out to be distant galaxies except one which was a wisp of Galactic infrared cirrus (Soifer 1987, Annual Review of Astronomy & Astrophysics 25:187), and no such source has ever turned out to be a solar-system object.
[link to web.ipac.caltech.edu]

According to NASA, IBEX and Dr. Anthony Perrat, 3 separate sources, we now have this "cirrus" aka plasma, entering our solar system.

That is your "planet x", it's not a planet... once again. Just because anyone with a brain can disprove the whole planet x disinformation doesn't mean something isn't in our solar system, that is a disgusting use of a logical fallacy. Understand now Astronutless?
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Quoting nothing because what you typed out was NOTHING. Your evidence is lacking and laughable, nothing there proves to me it was a missile or rocket. I could create better proof in MS paint and then host it on an image hosting website too. Doesn't prove a thing. Using logical fallacies will only get you so far, if you think it quacks like a duck, if you think it smells like a duck, it must be a duck... laughable. Go back to kindergarten, you might actually learn something.
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That is your "planet x", it's not a planet... once again. Just because anyone with a brain can disprove the whole planet x disinformation doesn't mean something isn't in our solar system, that is a disgusting use of a logical fallacy. Understand now Astronutless?
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If it's not a planet, the OP has his facts wrong. Either way you're contradicting yourself. Your own sources said that everything detected was beyond the solar system. I'm here to debate the OP's theory, not every single mutually exclusive theory imaginable, yours included.
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watched 12 parts and seems to be lots of corroborating evidence, i guess part 13 hasn't been posted yet
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Quoting nothing because what you typed out was NOTHING.
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What's the matter? Can't stand that a simulated launch of a Bulava matches the spiral location?
Your evidence is lacking and laughable, nothing there proves to me it was a missile or rocket. I could create better proof in MS paint and then host it on an image hosting website too.
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You'd be lying though since you didn't actually run any simulation to determine where the rocket would be seen from Tromso or anywhere else in norway. The difference is, I didn't lie.
Doesn't prove a thing.
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It's impossible to prove anything to someone who starts with the assumption that everything the other person says is a lie. Just because it doesn't "prove anything" to YOU personally does not mean it's not proof. You could even run the simulation yourself if you wanted, I'd gladly supply the scenerio file, config file for a bulava, and a link to the simulator (oh but that would make it harder for you to just dismiss it as an "MS Paint" lie). If you wish to go on believing the location the bulava would have been seen compared to the location of the spiral was just a giant coincidence, be my guest, but don't expect "anyone with a brain" to agree with you just because "it looked wierd."

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That is your "planet x", it's not a planet... once again. Just because anyone with a brain can disprove the whole planet x disinformation doesn't mean something isn't in our solar system, that is a disgusting use of a logical fallacy. Understand now Astronutless?

If it's not a planet, the OP has his facts wrong. Either way you're contradicting yourself. Your own sources said that everything detected was beyond the solar system. I'm here to debate the OP's theory, not every single mutually exclusive theory imaginable, yours included.
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No, why are you squirming so much Astronutless? You know that the OP never stated this was PX. I watched the videos, he states he doesn't want to share his beliefs, only the facts. The facts are facts, they were merely collected by him and organised into an easy to read format. They are only *some* of the goings on as a result of the plasma entering our solar system. You can't debunk me little worm, you don't have the capacity nor the capability.

You clearly did not bother going to any of my posts with all the information, and you're either stupid or simply have an agenda to carry out because how did you not see this statement? I even BOLDED it for you.

According to NASA, IBEX and Dr. Anthony Perrat, 3 separate sources, we now have this "cirrus" aka plasma, entering our solar system.

You're not debating, you're debasing. Using logical fallacies in debates is a sure sign of a loser and someone who simply wants to destroy information or the poster. This isn't a debate, you don't know how to debate and I doubt you have the intelligence to have a reasonable and rational debate. Squirm all you want you sad little worm, it won't do you much good as I stomp on you ^_^
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No, why are you squirming so much Astronutless? You know that the OP never stated this was PX. I watched the videos, he states he doesn't want to share his beliefs, only the facts. The facts are facts, they were merely collected by him and organised into an easy to read format.
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Well the fact is that IRAS did not detect any new object in the solar system, but that is not what the OP is claiming. His facts are wrong.
They are only *some* of the goings on as a result of the plasma entering our solar system. You can't debunk me little worm, you don't have the capacity nor the capability.
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Funny how you accuse me of squirming while you're the one with nothing but insults. Guess I struck a close nerve with that spiral debunking. I'll say it one last time, I don't care what your personal pet theory is, even other nuts on this thread don't agree with it. Maybe that's why you're so stressed.
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Is there a connecting of the Norway spiral to planet X?

How are they related?
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No, why are you squirming so much Astronutless? You know that the OP never stated this was PX. I watched the videos, he states he doesn't want to share his beliefs, only the facts. The facts are facts, they were merely collected by him and organised into an easy to read format.

Well the fact is that IRAS did not detect any new object in the solar system, but that is not what the OP is claiming. His facts are wrong.

They are only *some* of the goings on as a result of the plasma entering our solar system. You can't debunk me little worm, you don't have the capacity nor the capability.

Funny how you accuse me of squirming while you're the one with nothing but insults. Guess I struck a close nerve with that spiral debunking. I'll say it one last time, I don't care what your personal pet theory is, even other nuts on this thread don't agree with it. Maybe that's why you're so stressed.
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Why can't you ever let a px thread be?
Seriously, you attack it like it's your job.

Leave people alone, if they want to make fools of themselves, let them.
Seek your attention somewhere else.

No one respond to this turd. He takes pride in destroying other people's threads.
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Is there a connecting of the Norway spiral to planet X?

How are they related?
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Apparently if "Planet X" is really "Plasma X" then the Norway spiral was actually caused by this plasma somehow, rather than by a rocket.
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Why can't you ever let a px thread be?
Seriously, you attack it like it's your job.
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It's not my job, but if anything I say keeps or contributes to even one person avoiding the kool-aid, even if they don't change their minds for a long time, then it was all worth it.
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I see none of the px proponents have provided a date as challenged earlier today when they would admit they they were wrong if px hasn't shown itself indisputably.

Case closed.
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No, why are you squirming so much Astronutless? You know that the OP never stated this was PX. I watched the videos, he states he doesn't want to share his beliefs, only the facts. The facts are facts, they were merely collected by him and organised into an easy to read format.

Well the fact is that IRAS did not detect any new object in the solar system, but that is not what the OP is claiming. His facts are wrong.

They are only *some* of the goings on as a result of the plasma entering our solar system. You can't debunk me little worm, you don't have the capacity nor the capability.

Funny how you accuse me of squirming while you're the one with nothing but insults. Guess I struck a close nerve with that spiral debunking. I'll say it one last time, I don't care what your personal pet theory is, even other nuts on this thread don't agree with it. Maybe that's why you're so stressed.
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So why are you here if you don't care? That's irrational. Unless you have to be here. His facts are articles and news collected over time, I've read many of those articles, the OP is wrong in his BELIEFS about what is going on, but the FACTS he has collected are not. Shit, you can search those very same articles yourself. Just because his beliefs are wrong does not mean the facts are wrong, he's just using the facts of something going on to prove his beliefs, but it doesn't work that way.

You deserve to be insulted astronutless, look at how you behave, disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself, you're a monster, not a human. Nothing you can say or do can disprove what I KNOW, because what I know is backed up by scientific evidence and proof, by sources within the scientific community and it's knowledge and information, not some silly beliefs. Just because you're too stupid to understand it doesn't mean it's not real and happening.

Facts are, OPs facts are true, they're all published articles. Fact is you came in here with a purpose and that was not to learn and debate and add to the thread. Fact is, you continually use logical fallacies and old "techniques" to evade anything you can't answer, to distract people from the main issue. The fact is you're a gutless little worm who seems to think he's better than everyone else yet we all know otherwise. Your proof of a missile is lacking and laughable, if you call that proof you're an idiot. Fact is you continually show you ignorance and stupidity, you flaunt it like a peacock. I love facts, don't you?
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Can anybody verify the supposed 20 year old Chinese video showing a similar looking spiral?

Sorry OP, but;

I no longer buy for one split second that the Norway spiral has anything to do with the return of the destroyer, Planet X, or Nibiru.
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Is there a connecting of the Norway spiral to planet X?

How are they related?

Apparently if "Planet X" is really "Plasma X" then the Norway spiral was actually caused by this plasma somehow, rather than by a rocket.
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Don't worry about it little man, you'll never understand the complexities of plasma physics. I don't expect a dumb ass like you to ever understand it. Anyone who has any understanding in plasma instabilities and z-pinches can easily see how a spiral can be formed. Stupid people make me sick, but stupid people who pretend to know everything are the worst. Because they can't or won't ever admit that they are WRONG.

Hey, here's a thought, if you actually wanted to know how it was possible you should look at the threads I posted, but as I said, you're simply too stupid to grasp plasma. Here's a hint... if dense plasma starts to stream into the solar system, it is only natural that dense plasma instability events like the spiral are going to occur. The solar wind is a low density plasma, you understand what density is I hope, and they cause AURORA. Try thinking sometime.
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Don't worry about it little man, you'll never understand the complexities of plasma physics. I don't expect a dumb ass like you to ever understand it. Anyone who has any understanding in plasma instabilities and z-pinches can easily see how a spiral can be formed.
 Quoting: Xenus 869756

What's more likely, that the identical location and motion of the spiral and the rocket are just coincidences, or that they're causally related? I'll take the latter over "plasma entering the solar system causing an instability event coincidentally right where a rocket was supposed to appear at the same time" any day of the week.
Stupid people make me sick, but stupid people who pretend to know everything are the worst. Because they can't or won't ever admit that they are WRONG.
 Quoting: Xenus

The feeling is mutual.

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