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THE RETURN OF THE DESTROYER, NIBIRU, PLANET X, DRAGON, DARK STAR, BROWN DWARF, ECT...

 
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This isn't about PX... this is about what people THINK PX is and all those names being used to describe it. Don't you get it? He's showing you the effects, not saying what it is. You're the only ones who are claiming it is PX. It's not a planet, he never said it was. In fact, I can't understand where all this "debate" is coming from, the OP isn't even the person in the video. Nothing to debate here. Silly little worm.
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2 hour presentation I gave at Brave New Books in Austin.

Just covered the facts, packed the place, many more people came than I expected and everyone was very grateful. It was a 1000% success.

Here is part 1 of 13. Have at it...please, prove me wrong. I hope you can.


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interesting videos with good info... but it really does not prove the existance of PX,,,, where are videos 11,122,13 cant find them
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He's showing you the effects, not saying what it is.
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Well, the IRAS bullcrap is not an effect of planet X, brown dwarves, destroyers, etc in the solar system. It's all beyond the solar system.
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Is the shield of debris that masks Nibiru here? The Norway spiral is thought to have been a test/demo of zero-point energy, but look at the amount of planet/moon size debris the sun is 'cleaning' up for us at the moment. What is causing the extreme amount of activity in the sun, increased earth tremors (esp. Yellowstone), global and ALL other solar system planet warming???

Read through these threads and see if you can see connections with the 'prophesies' of Nibiru's arrival:
Thread: BREAKING: NASA Images Earth Sized Spherical Objects Inside Corona of SUN (UPDATE: 5/4/2010)
Thread: ALERT: POSSIBLE ERUPTION @ YELLOWSTONE -- EQ SWARM UNDERWAY -- !!!!!! APPARENT USGS COVER-UP !!!!!! HIGH EQ ACTIVITY WORLDWIDE !!!!!!
Thread: JUPITER IGNITION!!!!!!!
Thread: Planet x , can anyone explain this?
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I would suggest the 1950's classic motion picture "When Worlds Collide"

Very Enlightening.

Watch it.
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Don't worry about it little man, you'll never understand the complexities of plasma physics. I don't expect a dumb ass like you to ever understand it. Anyone who has any understanding in plasma instabilities and z-pinches can easily see how a spiral can be formed.

What's more likely, that the identical location and motion of the spiral and the rocket are just coincidences, or that they're causally related? I'll take the latter over "plasma entering the solar system causing an instability event coincidentally right where a rocket was supposed to appear at the same time" any day of the week.

 Quoting: Astronut


That is your BELIEF. Even Russia didn't claim it was their missile. No one has actually officially stated that it was the Russian missile. You play with your beliefs while I know. You're no better than the religious zombies. If all the proof you need is a 3D studio animation of some spiral and articles which use weasel words like may have caused, possibly etc, go ahead. It really shows your lack of intelligence. I'm sorry, did I hurt your feelings? I didn't think worms could feel anything, astronutless.
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WTF are you talking about?

IRIS is a fact...it was launched...are you stupid?

IRAS was launched, but it never found a "tenth planet." The frequently cited "discovery" IRC+10216 is just the carbon star CW Leonis that looked like a tantalizing possibility for a tenth planet at first because it happens to sit on the ecliptic.



Tell that to Dr. Robert S Harrington.

Oh wait you can't he is taking an extended dirt nap.


Harrington died of esophageal cancer. You're saying that was somehow induced? How? Why don't they kill everyone else talking about "Planet X" all over the internet?

Besides, Harrington NEVER postulated a Planet X that would come into the inner solar system and cause a pole shift or other catastrophe. He was talking about the possibility of a distant object with a regular orbit that would stay more or less where it was.

His calculations were proven wrong after Voyager II and other more recent research. His collaborator Tom Van Flandern eventually concluded that Harrington was incorrect.
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You are a lying liar who lies.

Harrington was so sure of his data he was only planning to pack a small telescope for his viewing trip south.

Who develops a deadly cancer and dies that fast with no prior symptoms of the disease?

You're not fooling anyone.
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Can anybody verify the supposed 20 year old Chinese video showing a similar looking spiral?

Sorry OP, but;

I no longer buy for one split second that the Norway spiral has anything to do with the return of the destroyer, Planet X, or Nibiru.
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Here it is...1988

[link to www.youtube.com]
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He's showing you the effects, not saying what it is.

Well, the IRAS bullcrap is not an effect of planet X, brown dwarves, destroyers, etc in the solar system. It's all beyond the solar system.
 Quoting: Astronut


IRAS proved that space wasn't empty... It's full of plasma, of various densities, various compositions and various energy/temperature. If you understand how solar wind works, it's a low density plasma, puffing up the sun's magnetic field which encompasses the entire solar system. As I said, if you were smart enough you would have searched for the latest IBEX press release in regards to the solar system's boundary. Also NASA's article, oh fuck it, I'll just paste the links here. [link to science.nasa.gov]

[link to web.mit.edu]

Now, after reading those, can you honestly say nothing has entered the solar system?
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That is your BELIEF. Even Russia didn't claim it was their missile. No one has actually officially stated that it was the Russian missile.
 Quoting: Xenus 869756


Wrong.

[link to www.cnn.com]

[link to www.universetoday.com]

"UPDATE (Dec. 10): Russia has finally admitted a missile accident with the Bulava ICBM. This rocket already has failed six of 13 previous tests, according to the BBC, so Russia might have been a little embarrassed about it."


There was also an aircraft alert in thesame area at the same time because of a planned rocket launch.

"ZCZC FA79
031230 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC
09 DC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA"
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That is your BELIEF.
 Quoting: Xenus 869756

It's the conlcusion one reaches when one actually looks at the location of the bulava rocket. You claim that my evidence was nothing more than MS Paint, yet you wouldn't bother to try to verify it for yourself when offered the chance. I'm not surprised, your beliefs seem quite entrenched. I put my hypothesis on the line by testing it, that means it's not just a belief.
Even Russia didn't claim it was their missile.
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I notice how carefully you worded that. I don't care what they claim other then that they admit a Bulava launch occured from the white sea at that time, and they admit it failed at the third stage. I can and did verify the rest for myself.
You play with your beliefs while I know.
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LOL, oh sure, just like you KNOW that I lied about my evidence on a "photo sharing site" right?
If all the proof you need is a 3D studio animation of some spiral and articles which use weasel words like may have caused, possibly etc, go ahead.
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3D studio animation? Wrong. I used a physically accurate simulator designed specifically for simulating the launch, orbiting, and landing of any spacecraft. It verified the location of the Bulava rocket in the sky as being a match with the location of the spiral.
It really shows your lack of intelligence. I'm sorry, did I hurt your feelings? I didn't think worms could feel anything, astronutless.
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Yet more insults and that all-too-familiar air of superiority from the conspiracy theory crowd.
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Russia confirms failed missle launch...

[link to upcoming.current.com]
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That is your BELIEF. Even Russia didn't claim it was their missile. No one has actually officially stated that it was the Russian missile.


Wrong.

[link to www.cnn.com]

[link to www.universetoday.com]

"UPDATE (Dec. 10): Russia has finally admitted a missile accident with the Bulava ICBM. This rocket already has failed six of 13 previous tests, according to the BBC, so Russia might have been a little embarrassed about it."


There was also an aircraft alert in thesame area at the same time because of a planned rocket launch.

"ZCZC FA79
031230 UTC DEC 09
COASTAL WARNING ARKHANGELSK 94
SOUTHERN PART WHITE SEA
1.ROCKET LAUNCHING 2300 07 DEC TO 0600 08 DEC
09 DC 0200 TO 0900 10 DEC 0100 TO 0900
NAVIGATION PROHIBITED IN AREA"
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"The Russian Defense Ministry has confirmed the Russian Navy launched a Bulava ballistic missile on the same day, but has declined to make any connection with the lights seen over Norway."

From the CNN one.

As for universetoday, haahahaha, that's not proof, that's some silly little blog with no sources cited, who updated them, where did they get this update? Sorry, not credible. Try again. I know for a fact this was not a rocket, so please don't make me laugh with your pathetic attempts to explain away this event. Clearly you only BELIEVE it was a rocket. There is no real proof that proves the event was a rocket. Anyone with more than a brain cell can see it was no rocket. It emitted LIGHT. It looked more like an AURORA (which happen a lot in norway) which is a plasma event, but this was dense plasma, not normal.
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I'm sorry. I hate when astro-physicists fight. So, if it was a rocket, then no Planet X. Is that what we're saying here?
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More info on the Russian rocket failure...

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

"Riddle of the Arctic roll solved as Russia admits 'one of our missiles misfired'"


[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

"Russia admits missile caused UFO lights"
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IRAS proved that space wasn't empty... It's full of plasma, of various densities, various compositions and various energy/temperature. If you understand how solar wind works, it's a low density plasma, puffing up the sun's magnetic field which encompasses the entire solar system. As I said, if you were smart enough you would have searched for the latest IBEX press release in regards to the solar system's boundary. Also NASA's article, oh fuck it, I'll just paste the links here.
 Quoting: Xenus 869756

That has nothing to do with the OP's claims regarding the IRAS detections of certain bright infrared sources. Nor does it indicate plasma "entering" the solar system, let alone causing the norway spiral. It clearly states that this particular cloud is located at a distance even greater than voyager itself:

""The Voyagers are not actually inside the Local Fluff," says Opher. "But they are getting close and can sense what the cloud is like as they approach it.""

[link to science.nasa.gov]
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[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]


"The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that a Bulava ballistic missile test had failed."
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I'm sorry. I hate when astro-physicists fight. So, if it was a rocket, then no Planet X. Is that what we're saying here?
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That would be correct.
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Any MORAN or Moran for those who are glp challenged can see it was NOT NOT NOT a rocket.

Fuckin Rocketards
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Nobody said it was a fucking planet, if you even watched the videos you would know that.

He is referring to it by the names as it is commonly called: planet x, the destroyer, dwarf star, etc, etc.
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Any MORAN or Moran for those who are glp challenged can see it was NOT NOT NOT a rocket.

Fuckin Rocketards
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lmao
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I know for a fact this was not a rocket,
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No you don't, you believe it wasn't.
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That is your BELIEF.


LOL, oh sure, just like you KNOW that I lied about my evidence on a "photo sharing site" right?
If all the proof you need is a 3D studio animation of some spiral and articles which use weasel words like may have caused, possibly etc, go ahead.

3D studio animation? Wrong. I used a physically accurate simulator designed specifically for simulating the launch, orbiting, and landing of any spacecraft. It verified the location of the Bulava rocket in the sky as being a match with the location of the spiral.

It really shows your lack of intelligence. I'm sorry, did I hurt your feelings? I didn't think worms could feel anything, astronutless.

Yet more insults and that all-too-familiar air of superiority from the conspiracy theory crowd.
 Quoting: Astronut


So wait, you separate "us" into the conspiracy theory crowd, so what are you? And what are you doing on a CONSPIRACY FORUM.

That is still not proof, the only way to prove it is to get a missile, launch it and achieve the same affect, do it a hundred times if you must, a thousand, until you repeatedly get the same spiral affect and light show. Since your claim is it's a rocket. And also, how do you know information about a secret Russian missile? A test.

"LOL, oh sure, just like you KNOW that I lied about my evidence on a "photo sharing site" right?"

I never said you lied about the images, but you just did. Plus, I would love to see a simulator that you claim, that can simulate a Russian test missile launch, and then also make it achieve EXACTLY the same spiral and effect as seen by millions now. Who the hell has ballistic missile simulators laying around? Real simulators take super computers. You make me laugh astronutless. You're as bad as the PX crowd. Perhaps worse...
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Nobody said it was a fucking planet, if you even watched the videos you would know that.

He is referring to it by the names as it is commonly called: planet x, the destroyer, dwarf star, etc, etc.
 Quoting: lemonater

A dwarf star is even more unlikely, and regardless of what you call it, IRAS's IR detections often cited by people like you and by the OP were not of objects within the solar system.

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It was a rocket as was the one in China in 1988. Otherwise, a rocket was launched in the same area and witnessed to go wrong and WOW...all of a sudden this UFO showed up. Yeah, right.
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IRAS proved that space wasn't empty... It's full of plasma, of various densities, various compositions and various energy/temperature. If you understand how solar wind works, it's a low density plasma, puffing up the sun's magnetic field which encompasses the entire solar system. As I said, if you were smart enough you would have searched for the latest IBEX press release in regards to the solar system's boundary. Also NASA's article, oh fuck it, I'll just paste the links here.

That has nothing to do with the OP's claims regarding the IRAS detections of certain bright infrared sources. Nor does it indicate plasma "entering" the solar system, let alone causing the norway spiral. It clearly states that this particular cloud is located at a distance even greater than voyager itself:

""The Voyagers are not actually inside the Local Fluff," says Opher. "But they are getting close and can sense what the cloud is like as they approach it.""

[link to science.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Astronut


You really are an idiot, and you claim to be some kind of astronomer? I think your cover is blown... or you just proved how fucking stupid you are to everyone... yet again. Voyager 1 and 2 are still within the boundaries of the solar system. And yes it does have everything to do with bright infrared sources, as I showed you before certain plasma can only be seen by infrared, like those cirrus "clouds" which were in fact first detected by IRAS.

[link to www.nasa.gov]

Thank you lemoneater for having some rationality and common sense. He gets it.
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Doesn't our air defense have satellites that detect any launches of missiles world wide?
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That is still not proof, the only way to prove it is to get a missile, launch it and achieve the same affect,
 Quoting: Xenus 869756

The fact that those pictures show the exact location of the bulava based on its launch point and trajectory is proof enough.
Since your claim is it's a rocket. And also, how do you know information about a secret Russian missile? A test.
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Look above you, 795135 showed exactly how we know.
I never said you lied about the images, but you just did.
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No, I didn't lie, I'm telling you the truth.
Plus, I would love to see a simulator that you claim, that can simulate a Russian test missile launch, and then also make it achieve EXACTLY the same spiral and effect as seen by millions now.
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It's a launch physics simulator, I never claimed it was to simulate the spiral effect, you're now resorting to putting words in my mouth. The fact is the simulator is not designed to handle particle effects in a vacuum, but others have posted videos showing what that looks like. All I set out to determine was the location the Bulava would have appeared in the sky. All the spiral is is exhaust leaving a rotating rocket at 4km/sec. Much more telling is the fact that the location in the sky matches.
Who the hell has ballistic missile simulators laying around? Real simulators take super computers.
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LMFAO! That's hilarious. Ballistics is easy for a computer to calculate, realistic graphics are the only challenge.
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[link to orbides.1gb.ru] (for terrain based on real data)
[link to users.swing.be] (for creating a custom vessel with specs matching that of the Bulava)

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Hey Astronut and Xenus...

TAKE YOUR SHIT to ANOTHER THREAD....

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Stop Hijacking this thread, and let it go....
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More info on the Russian rocket failure...

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

"Riddle of the Arctic roll solved as Russia admits 'one of our missiles misfired'"


[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

"Russia admits missile caused UFO lights"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795135


Really now, how many times do I need to do this...

Russia did not confirm that its test launch was behind the lights but it appears increasingly likely.

The Bulava has had nine failed launches in 13 tests, prompting calls for it to be scrapped.
[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

"It consisted initially of a green beam of light similar in color to the aurora with a mysterious rotating spiral at one end," Nick Banbury of Harstad, Norway, told Spaceweather.com. "This spiral then got bigger and bigger until it turned into a huge halo in the sky with the green beam extending down to Earth."

The Russian Defense Ministry confirmed that a Bulava ballistic missile test had failed.
[link to www.msnbc.msn.com]

I'm still waiting for a RUSSIAN PRESS RELEASE saying it was their rocket, I can read russian and yet I have not found a thing. Keep trying... I've seen so many of these articles edited and re-edited and not one actually supplies a credible source from within the Russian military or government. Bunch of brain dead morons around here.

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