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THE RETURN OF THE DESTROYER, NIBIRU, PLANET X, DRAGON, DARK STAR, BROWN DWARF, ECT...

 
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Wars, terrorism, economic problems, etc., are all staged.
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While the seats get hotter and hotter...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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You know guys.. on one side the infon presented by LUCUS is incredible .. the connect the dots that he has done is awesome..on the other side living the every day life.. the every day situations.. the "life " must go on thing.. I mean look around yourselves.. they are all sleeping, they don't know any opf this or what is really going on .. all they want to see are the big titted lady on the "big brother" real time tv show...
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yeah, they could be called "the goddamn brain-whashed bastards"!!
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And so the once great thread dies a slow retarded death.
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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About the story from the other day regarding the changes on Pluto:

[link to www.nydailynews.com]

I was looking at a few other things when I saw the photos and did not realize that although the Pluto pics were just released, they were taken in 2002-2003
!
So once again, our tax dollars were used to procure data, which was then hidden from us.


Since these were taken ~8 years ago, I wonder how close whatever the hell caused this change on Pluto is to Earth at the moment?

A link with several Pluto photos:

[link to news.zdnet.com]
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Never A Straight Answer.

they don't know when it will happen, although they can see it out there.

of course, they don't talk about it either.
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And so the once great thread dies a slow retarded death.
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a thread like this never dies, it becomes a reference.
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And so the once great thread dies a slow retarded death.

a thread like this never dies, it becomes a reference.
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cheers for the silver lining ;)
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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And a good rule is to always remember there are players that have their part to play but some are playing a bigger game than even they can imagine.

Some play to win...other play just to play.

Some play but steal quaters from others and others take the game way too seriously.

So, who made the game and why?

P.S. Don't be a player hater! chuckle
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I don't hate the players. In fact sometimes I play the game all by myself for no reason except I like the way someone is playing or I don't.

If I can figure out that a player needs a word written and I like them, I'll write it. If a player pisses me off, I'll call them on it.

Kind of like the djed pillar person. I guess I'm easily amused.

I don't believe the OP in this thread is a player and I do believe he is on to something.
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And so the once great thread dies a slow retarded death.

a thread like this never dies, it becomes a reference.

cheers for the silver lining ;)
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it's rare, but may happen! afro
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I went through most of the CD on the Internet, there were some things I never saw before, but the most important thing I realized was, that in the video, the main theme was that the proof of Nibiru's return was in the DIA (Denver Int'l Airport) and all of the gov't goings on regarding the prospect that Nibiru is KNOWN to be arriving very soon (2010/12/or whenever).

So this presentation is not so much about Nibiru and its return, its about what the government knows and its great effort to keep you from knowing what they are doing. But far more importantly, the government(and the elite) are funding their OWN survival at OUR (read YOUR) expense.

That is, that YOU are paying almost half of what you earn to government leaders and to the elite so they will survive a worldwide castrophe. All the money you are generously giving them could be used to save yourself and your family.

And anyone who thinks this is acceptable is NOT a liberal (or conservative or anything else). The only word I think would apply here would be ASSHOLE!

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whatever
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Here's a little thought: Water boils in a vacuum. If there is a "lapse" in gravity the only one surviving is the boy in the bubble. As in where is the air pressure? Nasty thought.

Hyperbolic chamber anyone?

The things that make my blood boil...


Not to debunk anything....But Lucus...don't go spending your money on the O2 tent quite yet...

Then again...anyone know of a "boiling ocean" in prophesy reference? I think I remember something along those lines ...somewhere...biblical?
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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[link to planetxpoleshift.ning.com]
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You know the saying "sacrifice the few for the many". It's kinda like that except their dyslexic.
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yes I had one to many a beer tonight, and I know it's they're not their.
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You know the saying "sacrifice the few for the many". It's kinda like that except their dyslexic.
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That would be lysdexic, I get my bords wackwards too...
"And though I believe in the ineffable glory of God, and though I might have experienced the undeniable reality of the Deity, and though I may know the secrets of the ages, these do not fulfill the Love in my heart. But to Change and Be and Do and dissolve both the subject of my person and the object of my God into the fluency of Empirical Providence. The Way, the Truth, and the Life."
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"It's quite amazing how all you debunkers come on here and other threads, Raise the Obligatory BS flag or BS Meter"

I AGREE. IT'S ONE OF THE LAMEST, MOST OVERUSED "EMOTICONS" AT THIS SITE.

"...claim this can never happen; claim you know why it can't happen {based on flawed science, which keeps changing month after month}

THE FACT IS MANY DEBUNKERS HAVE BROUGHT UP MANY POINTS HERE REGARDING ONLY A FEW ISSUES WITH LUCAS' VIDEO. AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PYRAMIDS, NOT ONE OF YOU HAS ENGAGED IN MUCH "DEBATE."

I ALSO FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO COMMENT ON THE FACT SOOOOOO MANY USERS HERE DISPARAGE SCIENCE "...which changes month to month" DESPITE THE LUDICROUS IRONY THAT YOU WRITE THIS WHILE TYPING ON A MACHING REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MOST FANTASTIC HUMAN ACCOMPLISHMENT IN THE FIELD OF COMMUNICATIONS THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN AS A DIRECT RESULT OF..."SCIENCE"... I'M GUESSING MANY OF YOU HAVE NEVER READ A BOOK ABOUT ASTRONOMY ON YOUR OWN OR TAKEN A CLASS IN IT. OR EVEN READ A MONTHLY ASTRONOMY MAGAZINE.

THE BASIC "SCIENCE" ISN'T THAT DIFFICULT, AND NO, IT REALLY DOESN'T "CHANGE" MONTH TO MONTH- AND WHEN IT DOES "CHANGE", UNLESS IT'S JUNK SCIENCE, IT NEVER DOES SO ERRATICALLY.

TRUE SCIENTIFIC CHANGE OCCURS AFTER EXPERIMENTATION. AND THEN ONLY WHEN IT CAN BE DUPLICATED BY OTHERS. THESE ARE THINGS WE LEARN IN HIGH SCHOOL SCIENCE CLASSES. "THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD".

IT WORKS. YOU'RE TYPING ON IT.

IF YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN SOMEONE WITH A PHD IN ASTRONOMY, I SUGGEST YOU TRY MEETING A COUPLE (OR ONE) AND "ENGAGE" THEM WITH YOU IDEAS.

AND NO NOT ALL ASTRONOMERS WORK FOR NASA.

"THE Problem is that you are SCARED.....Frightened of losing what you have; Frightened of losing loved ones; Frightened of embracing monumental change; Frightened that this indeed MAY HAPPEN!!!

THAT'S...QUITE A STATEMENT. I SEE A LOT DEBATE GOING ON HERE BUT I'VE NEVER ONCE DETECTED "FEAR". NOT EVEN FROM "YOUR SIDE". AND FRANKLY...ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN. A PIANO COULD FUCKING FALL ON MY HEAD TOMORROW. WHO KNOWS?

THERE ARE THINGS I WORRY ABOUT, YES- BUT I WORRY ABOUT NOTHING THAT CAN'T BE SOUNDLY EXPLAINED BY SCIENCE. IT CAN'T EXPLAIN EVERYTHING- WHAT THE FUCK ARE UFO'S? I DON'T KNOW. BUT WHAT IT CAN EXPLAIN...I DON'T WORRY ABOUT.

"You say 'It can't' happen while I am alive now but will probably happen in a few generations from now.....AND guess what, the same people then will say exactly the same!!!"

YOU KIND OF...KILL YOUR OWN STATEMENT HERE, IRONICALLY, BY THE LOGIC WITHIN THAT VERY PARAGRAPH...BUT I'M GONNA LET IT SLIDE BECAUSE I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.

BUT YOU DO DEFEAT YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN...LOGIC.

"You see people who research and get together and debate honestly and with an open mind are placing themselves and their families strategically {like on a chess board}and so when 'it' happens we will be prepared and ready to fulfil a newer and hopefully better future. While others will be running around like 'headless chickens, crying wolf'!!"

ACTUALLY, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S VERY LITTLE "DEBATE" GOING ON HERE. JUST A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SORT OF FREAKING BECAUSE THEIR IDEAS ARE BEING CHALLENGED.

AND...BY DEFINITION, WE'RE NOT THE ONES "CRYING WOLF".

UNTIL (UNLESS) "IT" HAPPENS...YOU ARE.

"From what I have learned and researched, there is no doubt we are in for a ride of our lives....."

BE SPECIFIC. OTHERWISE...WHAT'S THE POINT?

"..may it be cataclysmic or something of conscience change of humanity but all the same Huge changes are about to take place!

*sigh* BE SPECIFIC!!!!

"Research based on some of the following:

Mayan {Cycle change & Conscience Change}
Dresden Codex
Sumerian belief - Annunaki etc
Egyptians {hieroglyphics, Pyramids, Book of the Dead etc etc}
Hopi's, Hindu, Chinese I Ching etc etc
Hendaye Cross {symbology}
petroglyphs {symbology}
Galactic Alignment
26,000 yr Cycles
Climatic Changes {US NE Worst ever Snow Storms Ever Recorded}, Mongolia, UK etc etc
Honey Bee Depletion - continues to deplete
Discovery of underground cities all over the world....now under water
Eratic Gulf Stream & weather, with many saying imminent onset of a new Ice Age---Has Happened many times in Human History!!
Seers including Nostradamus, Peter Deunov,Terence Mckenna etc etc etc
Beliefs of Inuit elders
Solar Maximum of 2012 {NASA themselves confirm possible CME equal to that of 150yrs ago!}
Biblical references, Kolbrin Bible References, Sanskrit Hindu References, Quran References etc etc etc
DENVER airport - Murals, Masonic Nature etc etc
CIA to Denver
Georgia Guidestones - Eight Different languages PLUS extinct Languages on the Head Stone
Secret Masonic Agenda
Pole Shifts...they have happened before
Magnetic Pole Weakening / Huge hole discovery
Numerous Comets/Meteors all over the world
Climatic changes all over our Solar System
Financial Collapse
Pandemics
"

LISTS LIKE THAT, IN THE CONTEXT OF AN ATTEMPTED-DEBATE LIKE THIS, ARE... POINTLESS.

IT'S JUST A...LIST. I COULD MAKE A SIMILAR ONE WITH JUST AS MANY..."RESEARCH TOPICS" WHICH I THINK PROVE ME RIGHT. IT'S POINTLESS.

"Wars - On the brink with Iran and the whole of the Middle East"

WE'RE NOT ON THE BRINK OF WAR WITH IRAN. IRAN WOULD BE VAPORIZED IN A SECOND IF THEY EVEN CAME CLOSE TO MAKING A BOMB AND THEY KNOW IT. THEY MAY HATE US AND TALK SHIT BUT THEY'RE NOT SUICIDAL.

THE ISRAELIS WOULD NEVER LET IT HAPPEN. THEY'D BE FLYING ACROSS THE DESERT AS I TYPE THIS IF THERE WAS EVEN A REMOTE THREAT FROM IRAN CREATING ANY WMD's.

"North Korea can surprise at any time"

THE ONLY WAY NORTH KOREA COULD "SURPRISE" THE WORLD WOULD BE IF IT FED ITS PEOPLE.

THEY FACE INSTANT ANNHILIATION FROM MULTIPLE SIDES. THEY'RE MORE TERRIFIED THAN THE IRANIANS.

China {if the world implodes financially....they will blame the west, especially the US and there is Russia {we are peeing them of with facilities in Eastern Europe

YOU MAKE A LITTLE SENSE HERE. CHINA'S A LOOMING PRESENCE, BUT IF THERE'S ANY GLOBAL "THREAT" IT'S RUSSIA. BUT EVEN THE RUSSIANS WOULDN'T FUCK WITH THE STATUS QUO.

TOO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE.

Depopulation - Think only 40yrs ago the world population was 3.65 Billion NOW it is nearly 7 Billion People...The world does not have the resources to feed, house & clothe so many....you can see that today all over the world

DEFINETELY A PROBLEM. I AGREE.

Good Ole New World Order references i.e. George Bush, Gordon Brown, World Bank, Corporate Control, Amero etc etc etc

I AGREE AGAIN. ALTHOUGH AS A SOCIALIST I SEE THE PROBLEM WITHIN THE LARGER CONTEXT OF A CLASS WAR.

IN MY OPINION THE ISSUE ISN'T SO MUCH THE NEW WORLD ORDER, IT'S THE CAPITALISM THEY THRIVE ON. KILL THEIR PROFIT-SYSTEM AND YOU KILL THEM. THEN WE TAKE BACK WHAT'S RIGHTFULLY ALL OF OURS.

(SEE? I'M A QUACK, TOO. AS A "DIRTY RED" I GET SHIT ON ALL THE TIME). YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT I WAS A FLAG-WAVING BUSHIE.

BUT I FIGHT MY IDEAOLOGICAL BATTLES WITH LOGIC, NOT CONJECTURE.

"I am sure i am missing a few here and there BUT you get my Gist...I HOPE."

I DO. IT'S JUST...COOL IT WITH THINKING YOU'VE STUMBLED ON TO SOME HOLY TRUTH THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T GET INTO BECAUSE THEY'RE...TOO "FRIGHTENED."

IT'S ACTUALLY THE BEST WAY TO TURN PEOPLE OFF TO YOUR IDEAS.

Our research is based on all the aforementioned and we continue to research.
YOU just BS without any substantial counter arguments to all the above.

Running around saying BS will not change the INEVITABLE......
BE Prepared & Be Warned, that is all we are trying to do..


BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW "IT'S" INEVTIBLE? YOU WON'T EVEN SAY WHAT "IT" IS.

I KNOW YOU'LL RESPOND THAT I'M NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH, OR MY BRAIN'S NOT...BIG ENOUGH OR...WHATEVER-

BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY LESS TRUE-

YOU CAN SPOUT ALL THE "RESEARCH" IN THE WORLD YOU WANT-
BUT YOU HAVEN'T SAID A SINGLE SPECIFIC THING AS TO WHAT YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN, OR WHEN.

YOU HAVE TO EXPECT OTHERS WILL POINT THIS OUT AS LONG AS YOU ESPOUSE BELIEFS WITH SUCH SHAKY FOUNATIONS, SCIENTIFICALLY AND OTHERWISE.

SCIENCE IS APOLITICAL.
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FUCK That ^^^^^^ was me again. Sorry. Moving on-

ADEND wrote:

"OP did a good work questioning possiblities. His conclusions do not reinforce the current power structures control systems so they are dangerous."

I will NEVER say that drawing a conclusion which CHALLENGES the current power structure ISN'T something to strive for/appreciate in others.

But you have to HAVE CHALLENGED those power structures. Merely attempting, or worse- attempting and failing is nothing but kind of a... useless distraction. I just wish people had higher standards.

And there's NOTHING dangerous about someone making claims steeped in errors and circumstantial evidence.

When that happens you're HURTING the cause- not HELPING it. You humiliate the cause. It seems like some people here think he should be applauded just because he TRIED.

But it's not good enough. Not for my standards. Nor should it be for anyone else's.

"He is attacked on several sides with different simultaneous arguments (nice trolling to the Shills BTW)."

There's a difference between "attacking" and asking someone to explain himself.

And yes, when someone makes the claims he makes in his videos, it's appropriate to ask him to "explain himself". Unless you advocate endorsing information based on its face value just by virtue it's been...presented (lots of users here written things to the effect of: "AT LEAST HE PUT FORTH THE EFFORT TO MAKE A VIDEO- WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? But what does it matter if the information presented can't be...challenged? What's the point?)

"OP, you can't argue your points here without being massivly trolled. You are much beter just postulating and asking questions that point people in the right direction. Don't get sucked in, you have more important things to do."

He never argued a single point.

He came back, made a rambling, self-aggrandizing declaration and...promptly split. Disagree with my ideaologies, but that's what happened- dude split. No "arguing" here.

..."shame on you. You should be asking questions and pointing out facts to guide and refine OPs search for the truth, not attacking him for not being perfect.

I am in no way obligated to "guide" or "refine" someone else's hour-plus-long manifesto. The burden of proof is on him. And no one attacked him for not being perfect. No on attacked him at all. He made his declaration, claimed the negative reactions were a coordinated conspiracy (seriously) and split.

"BTW, Swing you are really bright and have superior reasoning to most. If you want to help, just get a little more socratic in your method and you will help others and yourself more along the way."

I'm not sure who that's addressed to. I...ha....sorry but I'm tempted to think it's...I mean, without that typo it kinda looks like.. as my username is...

No. Couldn't be. But if anyone here ever did write anything like that, referencing me, I would just humbly... thank them.

And I would hope they didn't take this post too personal.

I'm just trying to communicate here.

EDIT: sorry, that might sound like I'm making fun of your typo. I'm not. Seriously. Making fun of typos is the last refuge of a coward (!) I'm just...pathologically unable to except...compliments. Of any kind. And it's..."kind of" a compliment.

You've intrigued me though- define "socratic", in regard to my "method". Interesting.
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"It's quite amazing how all you debunkers come on here and other threads, Raise the Obligatory BS flag or BS Meter"

I AGREE. IT'S ONE OF THE LAMEST, MOST OVERUSED "EMOTICONS" AT THIS SITE.

"...claim this can never happen; claim you know why it can't happen {based on flawed science, which keeps changing month after month}

THE FACT IS MANY DEBUNKERS HAVE BROUGHT UP MANY POINTS HERE REGARDING ONLY A FEW ISSUES WITH LUCAS' VIDEO. AND WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE PYRAMIDS, NOT ONE OF YOU HAS ENGAGED IN MUCH "DEBATE."

I ALSO FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO COMMENT ON THE FACT SOOOOOO MANY USERS HERE DISPARAGE SCIENCE "...which changes month to month" DESPITE THE LUDICROUS IRONY THAT YOU WRITE THIS WHILE TYPING ON A MACHING REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MOST FANTASTIC HUMAN ACCOMPLISHMENT IN THE FIELD OF COMMUNICATIONS THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN AS A DIRECT RESULT OF..."SCIENCE"... I'M GUESSING MANY OF YOU HAVE NEVER READ A BOOK ABOUT ASTRONOMY ON YOUR OWN OR TAKEN A CLASS IN IT. OR EVEN READ A MONTHLY ASTRONOMY MAGAZINE.

THE BASIC "SCIENCE" ISN'T THAT DIFFICULT, AND NO, IT REALLY DOESN'T "CHANGE" MONTH TO MONTH- AND WHEN IT DOES "CHANGE", UNLESS IT'S JUNK SCIENCE, IT NEVER DOES SO ERRATICALLY.

TRUE SCIENTIFIC CHANGE OCCURS AFTER EXPERIMENTATION. AND THEN ONLY WHEN IT CAN BE DUPLICATED BY OTHERS. THESE ARE THINGS WE LEARN IN HIGH SCHOOL SCIENCE CLASSES. "THE SCIENTIFIC METHOD".

IT WORKS. YOU'RE TYPING ON IT.

IF YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN SOMEONE WITH A PHD IN ASTRONOMY, I SUGGEST YOU TRY MEETING A COUPLE (OR ONE) AND "ENGAGE" THEM WITH YOU IDEAS.

AND NO NOT ALL ASTRONOMERS WORK FOR NASA.

"THE Problem is that you are SCARED.....Frightened of losing what you have; Frightened of losing loved ones; Frightened of embracing monumental change; Frightened that this indeed MAY HAPPEN!!!

THAT'S...QUITE A STATEMENT. I SEE A LOT DEBATE GOING ON HERE BUT I'VE NEVER ONCE DETECTED "FEAR". NOT EVEN FROM "YOUR SIDE". AND FRANKLY...ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN. A PIANO COULD FUCKING FALL ON MY HEAD TOMORROW. WHO KNOWS?

THERE ARE THINGS I WORRY ABOUT, YES- BUT I WORRY ABOUT NOTHING THAT CAN'T BE SOUNDLY EXPLAINED BY SCIENCE. IT CAN'T EXPLAIN EVERYTHING- WHAT THE FUCK ARE UFO'S? I DON'T KNOW. BUT WHAT IT CAN EXPLAIN...I DON'T WORRY ABOUT.

"You say 'It can't' happen while I am alive now but will probably happen in a few generations from now.....AND guess what, the same people then will say exactly the same!!!"

YOU KIND OF...KILL YOUR OWN STATEMENT HERE, IRONICALLY, BY THE LOGIC WITHIN THAT VERY PARAGRAPH...BUT I'M GONNA LET IT SLIDE BECAUSE I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.

BUT YOU DO DEFEAT YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN...LOGIC.

"You see people who research and get together and debate honestly and with an open mind are placing themselves and their families strategically {like on a chess board}and so when 'it' happens we will be prepared and ready to fulfil a newer and hopefully better future. While others will be running around like 'headless chickens, crying wolf'!!"

ACTUALLY, UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S VERY LITTLE "DEBATE" GOING ON HERE. JUST A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SORT OF FREAKING BECAUSE THEIR IDEAS ARE BEING CHALLENGED.

AND...BY DEFINITION, WE'RE NOT THE ONES "CRYING WOLF".

UNTIL (UNLESS) "IT" HAPPENS...YOU ARE.

"From what I have learned and researched, there is no doubt we are in for a ride of our lives....."

BE SPECIFIC. OTHERWISE...WHAT'S THE POINT?

"..may it be cataclysmic or something of conscience change of humanity but all the same Huge changes are about to take place!

*sigh* BE SPECIFIC!!!!

"Research based on some of the following:

Mayan {Cycle change & Conscience Change}
Dresden Codex
Sumerian belief - Annunaki etc
Egyptians {hieroglyphics, Pyramids, Book of the Dead etc etc}
Hopi's, Hindu, Chinese I Ching etc etc
Hendaye Cross {symbology}
petroglyphs {symbology}
Galactic Alignment
26,000 yr Cycles
Climatic Changes {US NE Worst ever Snow Storms Ever Recorded}, Mongolia, UK etc etc
Honey Bee Depletion - continues to deplete
Discovery of underground cities all over the world....now under water
Eratic Gulf Stream & weather, with many saying imminent onset of a new Ice Age---Has Happened many times in Human History!!
Seers including Nostradamus, Peter Deunov,Terence Mckenna etc etc etc
Beliefs of Inuit elders
Solar Maximum of 2012 {NASA themselves confirm possible CME equal to that of 150yrs ago!}
Biblical references, Kolbrin Bible References, Sanskrit Hindu References, Quran References etc etc etc
DENVER airport - Murals, Masonic Nature etc etc
CIA to Denver
Georgia Guidestones - Eight Different languages PLUS extinct Languages on the Head Stone
Secret Masonic Agenda
Pole Shifts...they have happened before
Magnetic Pole Weakening / Huge hole discovery
Numerous Comets/Meteors all over the world
Climatic changes all over our Solar System
Financial Collapse
Pandemics
"

LISTS LIKE THAT, IN THE CONTEXT OF AN ATTEMPTED-DEBATE LIKE THIS, ARE... POINTLESS.

IT'S JUST A...LIST. I COULD MAKE A SIMILAR ONE WITH JUST AS MANY..."RESEARCH TOPICS" WHICH I THINK PROVE ME RIGHT. IT'S POINTLESS.

"Wars - On the brink with Iran and the whole of the Middle East"

WE'RE NOT ON THE BRINK OF WAR WITH IRAN. IRAN WOULD BE VAPORIZED IN A SECOND IF THEY EVEN CAME CLOSE TO MAKING A BOMB AND THEY KNOW IT. THEY MAY HATE US AND TALK SHIT BUT THEY'RE NOT SUICIDAL.

THE ISRAELIS WOULD NEVER LET IT HAPPEN. THEY'D BE FLYING ACROSS THE DESERT AS I TYPE THIS IF THERE WAS EVEN A REMOTE THREAT FROM IRAN CREATING ANY WMD's.

"North Korea can surprise at any time"

THE ONLY WAY NORTH KOREA COULD "SURPRISE" THE WORLD WOULD BE IF IT FED ITS PEOPLE.

THEY FACE INSTANT ANNHILIATION FROM MULTIPLE SIDES. THEY'RE MORE TERRIFIED THAN THE IRANIANS.

China {if the world implodes financially....they will blame the west, especially the US and there is Russia {we are peeing them of with facilities in Eastern Europe

YOU MAKE A LITTLE SENSE HERE. CHINA'S A LOOMING PRESENCE, BUT IF THERE'S ANY GLOBAL "THREAT" IT'S RUSSIA. BUT EVEN THE RUSSIANS WOULDN'T FUCK WITH THE STATUS QUO.

TOO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE.

Depopulation - Think only 40yrs ago the world population was 3.65 Billion NOW it is nearly 7 Billion People...The world does not have the resources to feed, house & clothe so many....you can see that today all over the world

DEFINETELY A PROBLEM. I AGREE.

Good Ole New World Order references i.e. George Bush, Gordon Brown, World Bank, Corporate Control, Amero etc etc etc

I AGREE AGAIN. ALTHOUGH AS A SOCIALIST I SEE THE PROBLEM WITHIN THE LARGER CONTEXT OF A CLASS WAR.

IN MY OPINION THE ISSUE ISN'T SO MUCH THE NEW WORLD ORDER, IT'S THE CAPITALISM THEY THRIVE ON. KILL THEIR PROFIT-SYSTEM AND YOU KILL THEM. THEN WE TAKE BACK WHAT'S RIGHTFULLY ALL OF OURS.

(SEE? I'M A QUACK, TOO. AS A "DIRTY RED" I GET SHIT ON ALL THE TIME). YOU PROBABLY THOUGHT I WAS A FLAG-WAVING BUSHIE.

BUT I FIGHT MY IDEAOLOGICAL BATTLES WITH LOGIC, NOT CONJECTURE.

"I am sure i am missing a few here and there BUT you get my Gist...I HOPE."

I DO. IT'S JUST...COOL IT WITH THINKING YOU'VE STUMBLED ON TO SOME HOLY TRUTH THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T GET INTO BECAUSE THEY'RE...TOO "FRIGHTENED."

IT'S ACTUALLY THE BEST WAY TO TURN PEOPLE OFF TO YOUR IDEAS.

Our research is based on all the aforementioned and we continue to research.
YOU just BS without any substantial counter arguments to all the above.

Running around saying BS will not change the INEVITABLE......
BE Prepared & Be Warned, that is all we are trying to do..


BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW "IT'S" INEVTIBLE? YOU WON'T EVEN SAY WHAT "IT" IS.

I KNOW YOU'LL RESPOND THAT I'M NOT INTELLIGENT ENOUGH, OR MY BRAIN'S NOT...BIG ENOUGH OR...WHATEVER-

BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY LESS TRUE-

YOU CAN SPOUT ALL THE "RESEARCH" IN THE WORLD YOU WANT-
BUT YOU HAVEN'T SAID A SINGLE SPECIFIC THING AS TO WHAT YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN, OR WHEN.

YOU HAVE TO EXPECT OTHERS WILL POINT THIS OUT AS LONG AS YOU ESPOUSE BELIEFS WITH SUCH SHAKY FOUNATIONS, SCIENTIFICALLY AND OTHERWISE.

SCIENCE IS APOLITICAL.
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As you know I am in the UK and it is 02:55 in the morning therefore I will be brief....need a bit of shut eye.

I am not going to call you names and appreciate your reply. A reply more akin to a debate then the regular BS.

In regards to being specific on what will happen..... I never claimed to be a prophet, seer etc etc.....but referred to the extensive research being carried out by many, including Lucus. I will make my own mind up based on the evidence and facts being presented. But hitherto based on all that is presented, we will within the 2 year time frame be living in a world which will be unrecognisable. I firmly believe the population of the world will be drastically reduced either by creative design or by nature {there is a plan being hatched for both outcomes}.All I need to decide is how this will come about and all the info being presented will be analysed, scrutinised and dissected to glean as much truth as possible. For me then to react in a positive manner for everyone around me. As I stated, it is better to be prepared.

My argument was against those who dismissed everything with their futile BS replies and their lack of counter arguments pertaining to the earlier list.
Science does NOT know all; just look at the weather forecasts on a daily basis and you will know too. Whenever there is a new discovery they have to revise and conclude differently, especially when dealing with the cosmos. But this is not the argument here.

You say you have arguments against all the listed points.....OK then, please present and will see if we can indeed debate.

peace
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FUCK That ^^^^^^ was me again. Sorry. Moving on-

ADEND wrote:

"OP did a good work questioning possiblities. His conclusions do not reinforce the current power structures control systems so they are dangerous."

I will NEVER say that drawing a conclusion which CHALLENGES the current power structure ISN'T something to strive for/appreciate in others.

But you have to HAVE CHALLENGED those power structures. Merely attempting, or worse- attempting and failing is nothing but kind of a... useless distraction. I just wish people had higher standards.

And there's NOTHING dangerous about someone making claims steeped in errors and circumstantial evidence.

When that happens you're HURTING the cause- not HELPING it. You humiliate the cause. It seems like some people here think he should be applauded just because he TRIED.

But it's not good enough. Not for my standards. Nor should it be for anyone else's.

"He is attacked on several sides with different simultaneous arguments (nice trolling to the Shills BTW)."

There's a difference between "attacking" and asking someone to explain himself.

And yes, when someone makes the claims he makes in his videos, it's appropriate to ask him to "explain himself". Unless you advocate endorsing information based on its face value just by virtue it's been...presented (lots of users here written things to the effect of: "AT LEAST HE PUT FORTH THE EFFORT TO MAKE A VIDEO- WHAT HAVE YOU DONE? But what does it matter if the information presented can't be...challenged? What's the point?)

"OP, you can't argue your points here without being massivly trolled. You are much beter just postulating and asking questions that point people in the right direction. Don't get sucked in, you have more important things to do."

He never argued a single point.

He came back, made a rambling, self-aggrandizing declaration and...promptly split. Disagree with my ideaologies, but that's what happened- dude split. No "arguing" here.

..."shame on you. You should be asking questions and pointing out facts to guide and refine OPs search for the truth, not attacking him for not being perfect.

I am in no way obligated to "guide" or "refine" someone else's hour-plus-long manifesto. The burden of proof is on him. And no one attacked him for not being perfect. No on attacked him at all. He made his declaration, claimed the negative reactions were a coordinated conspiracy (seriously) and split.

"BTW, Swing you are really bright and have superior reasoning to most. If you want to help, just get a little more socratic in your method and you will help others and yourself more along the way."

I'm not sure who that's addressed to. I...ha....sorry but I'm tempted to think it's...I mean, without that typo it kinda looks like.. as my username is...

No. Couldn't be. But if anyone here ever did write anything like that, referencing me, I would just humbly... thank them.

And I would hope they didn't take this post too personal.

I'm just trying to communicate here.

EDIT: sorry, that might sound like I'm making fun of your typo. I'm not. Seriously. Making fun of typos is the last refuge of a coward (!) I'm just...pathologically unable to except...compliments. Of any kind. And it's..."kind of" a compliment.

You've intrigued me though- define "socratic", in regard to my "method". Interesting.
 Quoting: "...Sing, I'll sway.



Sorry about the misnomer Sting.

I mean Sing :-)

So, I might for the moment ask you to generalize error as having its source in three common categories. 1) The facts are wrong or unknown, but the conclusion is not questioned; 2) The facts are correct but the wrong question is asked and therefore the wrong answer results; 3) The facts are right, the right questions are asked and faulty logic results in the wrong result.

There is always a strong question that can point out the error in any of the above. Properly questioning an error will lead to a contradiction in reasoning. Study the source of the error and ask questions that lead to contradictions. This is what I mean by being more Socratic in your method.

When your reasoning is superior it is easy to explain why and win. Winning creates a loser and discourages the search. Questioning guides the search, and though most will be close minded, when you find a like mind or appreciative student it is a great thing.

I for one see so many people failing to question that I am thrilled every time I see someone seeking the truth. I have been on, and may go on further, wild goose chases to see where they wind up. I understand you may not have the luxury of time for this, but each gift comes with a corresponding responsibility. You can use your gifts to help a few others grow, or to win and make them look bad. Which use resonates best with who you are?
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I'm sure many here have seen this, but if you haven't, it will if nothing else, provide a good visual and 'feel' to the DIA. Jesse brings up the primary issues regarding DIA, however being constrained by the realities of TV program formatting, namely time, Jesse missed a few points about the airport that Lucus' presentation hit on:



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I learn something everyday. Any rational, intelligent person does. Only assholes and libertarians think they know everything (ooohhhhh- I went there....)


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 865969



Ever own up to your lies?
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I just blew the mind of our city manager.

I took a copy of the presentation to him...This guy is about 70 years old.

He was blown away in fact so much he fainted. I was with him for about an hour and after seeing the petroglyphs and the norway spiral he turned flush and fainted right in his chair...I had to wake him up.

He thanked me like 20 times for giving this to him and said he was going to take this right to the Travis County Emergency Prepardness Office and have a sit down with the director.

He also said he was making several copies and going to pass them out to staff for their evaluation.

He even said during our meeting

"That would mean that 911 and all the other stuff is just a big diversion"

It was about 5 minutes after he said that he fainted.

WOW...now I am really freaked out.

Hope I did the right thing.
 Quoting: LUCUS...aka...BlackHoleSun


You're doing the right thing Lucus, you and others here are helping to lift the veil that has enslaved us to TPTB for God knows how long. We must reconquer our freedom.

The great system of LIES of *their world* must go down for good and forever.
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guys, I don't think we have to worry that much, we are missing something.... a final piece of the puzzle as it were...... something is going to happen that none of us expect or could even know about before hand... something wonderful, something incredible to us but natural in the grand order of things...

I've not quite worked it out straight in my head yet but something is going to happen either just before or as "insert whatever catastrophe here" it is happening....

Something not in our awareness as yet.... just trust me on this one, its a gut instinct thing...

For me, I cannot run to the hills , I have a partner who is so blinkered and narrow-minded and egotistical that he doesn't even think anything is even going on...... needless to say he pisses me off.... but we have 6 kids between us and I have no-where to go so for the moment I have to stay here and put up with constant snarling and ridicule towards me and this subject..... grrrrr...
However, I just know something wonderful comes this way..

We are not and never were alone either extraterrestrial or extra dimensional, we are looked after all the time....
Life on this planet is just like Earth School..... we are eternal spirits having an Eartly experience, we cannot really ever die, only the genetic space/earth suit that we wear in order to physically experience this dimensional plane of existence...... do not have FEAR have LOVE....
LOVE is the absence of FEAR.... have no fear and face whatever is coming, knowing that it will never be the End....
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True, it will not only be a physical phenomenon it'll also involve an enhancement of our consciousness and probably a transition to another realm of life.

Great destruction in 3D will mean also a great Beginning on 4D, for many.

It's not only a "planet" that is coming.
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I posted this on page 67, but it got buried beneath all the chatter. People have been asking for scientific evidence for Planet X. The best scientific evidence to support the Planet X theory, in my opinion, comes from The Nemesis Theory. Enjoy...

The Nemesis Theory, general consensus is that the sun's dark twin is the cause of mass extinctions every ~20-30 million years:

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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Planet X news article from 1972 stating that Planet X would orbit the sun in 512 years based on the timetable of Halley's Comet:

[link to news.google.com]

This is an abstract to a news article about Planet X and the Pioneer anomaly:

[link to pqasb.pqarchiver.com]

Article regarding Pioneer anomaly:

[link to www.newscientist.com]
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Above was me, I was logged in when I posted tho...

Working link to Nemesis Theory, apologies:

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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Actually despite the best efforts of LUCUS aka BLACKWHORESUN aka BlackHoleSun, he indeed does have beliefs, he just chose to omit them here because of the ridicule he got last time.


[link to www.dailymotion.com]

His attack on science. A fucking believer attacking reality again. Insane believers, irrational sheeple always attacking the truth and reality in favour of their delusional fantastical beliefs.

Plasma Theory - More Disinfo From The PTB To Create False Scientific Paradigm
Thread: Plasma Theory - More Disinfo From The PTB To Create False Scientific Paradigm

clappa

Ah ... finally the good guys come in ... howdy guys.
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So LUCUS is BlackHoleSun. A firm believer in planet X. He's using the truth to justify the planet X lie, circumstantial evidence is not real evidence. Just because *something* is happening doesn't mean it's caused by some mystical planet X you *choose* to believe in.
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Hey, GLPers, Just thought of this:

WMD=WorMwooD... Thoughts??
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[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

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So LUCUS is BlackHoleSun. A firm believer in planet X. He's using the truth to justify the planet X lie, circumstantial evidence is not real evidence. Just because *something* is happening doesn't mean it's caused by some mystical planet X you *choose* to believe in.
 Quoting: Xenus 

well then please oh mighty one explain the obvious chaos taking place with the sun ,earth and weather..
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