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ha US Gov caught lying about Employment statistics 1 Million to be added to unemployment roles

 
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ha US Gov caught lying about Employment statistics 1 Million to be added to unemployment roles
[link to www.bloomberg.com]
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WOW!

This is stunning! 800+K REVISION!


I hope this gets a pin.

Might be good to pring that little article with the link to Bloomberg's stats.
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This is the yearly adjustment which is normally done in February.

It's just never been this big of an adjustment before. And you know in which direction.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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News just hit the stock market!

Down 57 points already.

This is going to really tank it today.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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U.S. May Lose 824,000 Jobs as Employment Data Revised: Analysis Share Business Exchange

Feb. 3 (Bloomberg Multimedia) -- The U.S. may lose 824,000 jobs when the government releases its annual revision to employment data on Feb. 5, showing the labor market was in worse shape during the recession than known at the time.

Click here for a Bloomberg Multimedia interactive visual analysis of the economy’s job losses.



So the real unemployment rate is what, now?
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News just hit the stock market!

Down 57 points already.

This is going to really tank it today.
 Quoting: Bluebird

prolly "already factored in" so expect a big rally, lol.
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News just hit the stock market!

Down 57 points already.

This is going to really tank it today.

prolly "already factored in" so expect a big rally, lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 508527



No, this is the annual adjustment. These jobs have NOT been factored in.

That's the problem and why this is major doom!
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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bump
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Their lips are moving you can bet they are lying.
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PIN THIS ITS IMPORTANT PLEASE
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Here is a link to the problem as Bloomberg sees it.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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PIN THIS ITS IMPORTANT PLEASE
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bump
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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Re: ha US Gov caught lying about Employment statistics 1 Million to be added to unemployment roles
Here is a link to the problem as Bloomberg sees it.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
 Quoting: Bluebird

Covers job losses form Apr '08 to Mar '09.

Uh oh-- more to blame Bush for. Not the Bush isn't blame free necessarily, but cating blame does not solve the problem.
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nice!
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Here is a link to the problem as Bloomberg sees it.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]

Covers job losses form Apr '08 to Mar '09.

Uh oh-- more to blame Bush for. Not the Bush isn't blame free necessarily, but cating blame does not solve the problem.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 881263




Sure, they will try but it also says that most of the jobs were lost after the fall of Lehman Brothers after Sept 2008 so three months on Obama's time when they really went south.

But he's been in office a year now and is just now starting to talk a little bit about jobs. Should have been first thing on the agenda instead of all kinds of nonsensical programs no one wants and that we can't afford. Washington has been too busy promoting its ideology and own agenda to care about jobs.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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If they admitted to an 800K revision, you can bet the farm that the real figure is 8 million.

Which would be exactly in line with my 30% unemployment estimate...

The government is notorious (and Bloomberg pointed out last year) for under-reporting by a factor of TEN.
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are these the jobs that were "saved" by the stiulus package?
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What Is Not factored in to the statistics is the fact that
it Doesn't include the unemployed that have exhausted
all of their benefits and extentions.These stats are just of the ones
who are currently on UI.
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Please realize that "money" is just paper plastic or metal alright.
And deeming it as a measure of value upon yourself,you your self you become its slave.
For money will then become the master measure of your life.

Then as consequence $$ becomes > than life itself and that is why we are it's slave.

You work your entire life off for $$ just like the program of the rulers (Those with all the gold) tells you too.
I plead of you to open your eyes.
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Re: ha US Gov caught lying about Employment statistics 1 Million to be added to unemployment roles
The is more then likely a Bush policy reversed.

When unemployment was droping out of control he didnt want to disclose it so, they actually change the formula that generated the rate, in order to show more favorable results.

Maybe they are going to change it back to the calculators that we used prior to Bush.
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Wonder if Canada will get caught fudging their unemployment figures as well, what they post is never true either.
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Re: ha US Gov caught lying about Employment statistics 1 Million to be added to unemployment roles
The is more then likely a Bush policy reversed.

When unemployment was droping out of control he didnt want to disclose it so, they actually change the formula that generated the rate, in order to show more favorable results.

Maybe they are going to change it back to the calculators that we used prior to Bush.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 880013

enough already about bush.
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"...showing the labor market was in worse shape during the recession than known at the time. "

Let's translate that: "... revealing how we twisted the real numbers to keep the market artificially inflated."

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hmmmmmmmm
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[link to www.whatdoesitmean.com]
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Hope and Change You Can Believe In, Bitchezzzz!!

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Re: ha US Gov caught lying about Employment statistics 1 Million to be added to unemployment roles
No, this is the annual adjustment. These jobs have NOT been factored in.

That's the problem and why this is major doom!
 Quoting: Bluebird


Regardless, the markets usually rise on news of higher unemployment.
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LOL when doesn't the GOV lie. This is serious, not good.
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US is (amongst other things) a plutocracy, in other words the rich hold all the power. I'm not taking about the twin towers broker, I'm talking megabucks. Thats why they were sacrificed so easily.

Just as Thatcher wanted we have returned to Victorian values, where if you are rich you are a God and if you're poor you die in the street.

How did the Victorians live with themselves? They blamed the poor for the position society had put them.

Watch this video in a new windowThe streets of DC: Politics by day, poverty by night

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Here is a link to the problem as Bloomberg sees it.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]
 Quoting: Bluebird

OH GIVE ME A BREAK


I can just picture those idiots sitting at their desks, being forced to come up with a way to cover their asses.


goaway "Make it work!!"


shitstir2 "Must.. compute.."

I don't believe a word the government tells us, I don't care what their revisions say or what explanation they have for the numbers.

Unemployment is around 25-30%.





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