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Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments

 
Anonymous Coward
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02/13/2010 04:21 PM
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i laud your hopes, jcb.

greed is just another face of fear. the evolution we're experiencing is about choosing between fear and love.
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Use this search string:

"Ownership of money and the induction of value to money"

and go to the one that links to gold is money dot info where you will find subsequent discussion.
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greed is just another face of fear. the evolution we're experiencing is about choosing between fear and love.
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Agreed.

and thank you
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02/13/2010 04:41 PM
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Social Credit:
[link to www.michaeljournal.org]

Mike Montagne: [link to www.themicroeffect.com] or get the archive later (Feb 13 - Larry Becraft show)
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2 things the human race will have to combine and achieve before we evolve.

if we don't, it will be like a stagnant parasite within us all.
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“Market Fundamentalism” and the Tyranny of Money
[link to www.globalresearch.ca]
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Sympathy for the government supporters...

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that's colonialism, which is a form of Imperialism, which is pure Capitalism.
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Surely you're not claiming that capitalism is colonialism or Imperialism, because that would be inaccurate... and silly.

Capitalism is an economic system in which wealth, and the means of producing wealth, are privately owned.[1][2] Through capitalism, the land, labor, and capital are owned, operated, and traded, without force or fraud, by private individuals either singly or jointly,[3][4] and investments, distribution, income, production, pricing and supply of goods, commodities and services are determined by voluntary private decision in a market economy.

The Myth of the Free Market: Fractional Banking and Private Currencies

[link to www.youtube.com]

Michael Moore and Arianna Huffington agree that our problems are not the result of capitalism.


[link to www.youtube.com]


[link to www.youtube.com]
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bump
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Salt Spring Currency home: [link to saltspringdollars.com]
Security Features: [link to www.adlertech.com]
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Toronto Dollar [link to www.torontodollar.com]
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Renegade Economist you tube channel

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Mises Media you tube channel

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Money, Banking, and the federal reserve:

[link to www.youtube.com]
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02/14/2010 11:45 AM
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Isn't it WONDERFUL, that once the JEWS have siphoned off 85-90% of the worlds wealth via their interest/USURY scheme ( Rothschilds, el al ) and it is floundering, we have these great ideas to change the system ?

ONE THING is LEFT OUT !

Via bank notes, morgtages, etc. people STILL have mountains of interest to pay these SAME JEW Banksters for a few GENERATIONS before the books are clear.

MORE obfuscation by the very people, or their shills, to 'forgive' the greedy Jew ! Start a new system, when the old is broken, and can't continue. WHAT a JOKE !

READ " The Matrix and the U.S. Constitution " and learn just WHO controls YOU, your property and your lives. Then come up with a new monetary system AFTER incorporating changes in what REALLY controls EVERYTHING.

Eagle
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Nathan's Economic Edge: The Impossible Math of Debt Backed Money:

[link to economicedge.blogspot.com]
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Worgl was the site of the "Miracle of Worgl" during the Great Depression. It was started on the 31st of July 1932 with the issuing of "Certified Compensation Bills", a form of currency commonly known as Stamp Scrip, or Freigeld. This was an application of the monetary theories of the economist Silvio Gesell by the town's then mayor, Michael Unterguggenberger.

The experiment resulted in a growth in employment and meant that local government projects such as new houses, a reservoir , a ski jump and a bridge could all be completed, seeming to defy the depression in the rest of the country. Inflation and deflation are also reputed to have been non-existent for the duration of the experiment.[2]

Despite attracting great interest at the time, including from French Premier Edouard Daladier and the economist Irving Fisher[3], the "experiment" was terminated by the Austrian National Bank on the 1st September 1933 on the basis of the "Certified Compensation Bills" being a threat to the Bank's monopoly on printing money.[4][5][6][7]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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2 things the human race will have to combine and achieve before we evolve.

if we don't, it will be like a stagnant parasite within us all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 876442



100% agree. The entire way we were supposed to live our life changed when currency became a part of our society. When greed pulled its big fat donkey dick out and fucked the old bitch we call the $...... well basically all hell broke loose.

think of all the corruption, death, suicides, illness, etc... caused by money/greed. How many ass backward decisions were made, throughout the course of our government, based only on the $ factor.


Does anyone else think it is sad that we need bill gates to donate money to cancer research? Fucking A this shit should be done no charge for the good of our earth.

It just seems like everything is becoming tied into money and it is a flat out joke.
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The replacement for money will not be created by a Jew and, because of conflicts of interest, no Jew will be allowed to take part in or comment on its development. It will come to the public fully formed by way of an RFC for a new protocol, similar to how the Internet was formed. It will be based on the work going on to develop the semantic web and combines all the individual quantities we use to measure meaning. The significance and position of the clusters which will ascribe meaning to economic transfer loops will find their own natural level and thus will be resistant to framing by Jewish interests.
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Rock on, brother wise. We arent party to the constitution anyway.
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There are three spellings of this word: seigniorage, seignorage, & seigneurage

Search Wikipedia: [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Money is a means to exchange value for goods or services in a convenient way. If all money were abolished, a new money would soon be created. It can't be correctly said that money is a result of some deviancy of modern man, because money has been around for 3200 years.

[link to library.thinkquest.org]

The first people didn't buy goods from other people with money. They used barter. Barter is the exchange of personal possessions of value for other goods that you want. This kind of exchange started at the beginning of humankind and is still used today. From 9,000-6,000 B.C., livestock was often used as a unit of exchange. Later, as agriculture developed, people used crops for barter. For example, I could ask another farmer to trade a pound of apples for a pound of bananas.

Shells At about 1200 B.C. in China, cowry shells became the first medium of exchange, or money. The cowry has served as money throughout history even to the middle of this century

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Livestock was often used as a unit of exchange. Cumbersome.

Our banking system is corrupt, but that is not a result of using money.
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Money is a means to exchange value for goods or services in a convenient way. If all money were abolished, a new money would soon be created.

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This new money would only be created if existing money was not replaced by a system which does away with the need for a medium of exchange, by using a more convenient harnessing of reason-based transfers.

Not long after the first nanotechnology replicators are made, scarcity and all the mortgages of the existing money systems will vanish.

Modern man quite literally only ever had gold to carry along his deviant path, so much so, that when his African forebears escaped along the silk road, across the Bering Strait, and down to Atlantis, the AI of Poseidon's men was unable to cope with the black markets of gold and the cannibalism that came with them.

After the gold economy destroyed that telemetry-based AI, which could have been around for the previous 50,000 years, the remnants of both sides chased each other back to Egypt. We know who destroyed the history of Atlantis because we are still using their laws.

Since recorded history was written to surround their money, this few thousand years pales to insignificance as compared with the length of time our newly rediscovered space-age technologies could last.

Poseidon's Canaanites kept some of their ideals but without their AI their systems of society finally lost to the fungibility of the gold stored in the Bank of Rome.

In the grand cycle of things, the telemetry of Atlantis gave way to some quaint misspellings and the tree of life plus a few odd cargo cults. This is the lesson of the Marduk-Tiamat myth and the root cause of the Palestinian crisis.
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02/16/2010 08:31 AM
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Library by Author
[link to cog.kent.edu]

Bastiat; a very good starting point - THE LAW & Bastiat - THE GOVERNMENT.

ECONOMIC SOPHISMS is longer and also a very good reference.
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Bad link, try this one: [link to cog.kent.edu]

& this:

New Approach to Freedom (Riegel)
[link to www.newapproachtofreedom.info]
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Charles Eisenstein, Money: A New Beginning, in two parts:
Part 1: [link to www.realitysandwich.com]

In Part 2, Eisenstein discusses Gesell and Wörgl: [link to www.realitysandwich.com]
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Center for Economic and Social Justice

[link to www.cesj.org]
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..Get rid of the money system and the governments. Just get rid of the Jew Zionist control. Kill 2 with 1 stone.
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02/16/2010 10:26 AM
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Its not because a bunch of Talmudic Pedophiles reach high level of government and that we need to scratch everything.

Lets make sure it never happens again.

Lets make sure the Media are oblige by LAWS to report any or all testimonies (with affidavit).

Media failure is the #1 responsible in this worldwide epidemic of corrupt pedophiles

Paper Money back up by Media and Puplib scrutiny is better than CERN Gold
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2 things the human race will have to combine and achieve before we evolve.

if we don't, it will be like a stagnant parasite within us all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 876442


Completely agree on that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Then come up with a new monetary system AFTER incorporating changes in what REALLY controls EVERYTHING.

 Quoting: Eagle # 1 869087


Yes.

And when completed, the NWO has succeeded its goals, a cashless society will reign, you will have to join their 'club' by receiving a 'mark' to buy and sell...and regional government will be replaced by a central, impersonal, faceless, beast control that will destroy all that you hold dear.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
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