my fellow christers: if "every knee shall bow and every tongue confess" etc.

good question that I would say only God knows, because the word says he will have mercy on whom he will.

I've often wondered why you do that. We don't believe the rest of it, what makes you think we'd believe that?

Your question? Yes, there is a close of probation. Just as there was with Noah's Ark, the door shut. When the Seventh Trumpet sounds it's all over: "He who is unjust, let him be unjust still. He who is righteous, let him be righteous still."

I agree they will at some point be convicted they were sinners. Why would they do this? Because this is just before their total destruction by fire. At some point they will awaken from Satan's deception to see God and all that they've lost, all the blessings in God.

I'm pretty sure the Bible indicates all will agree justice is done -- every mouth will be stopped. God's thoughts are not our thoughts. perfect justice :-)

there's a part where it indicates God has overlooked ignorance

from my understanding those who knowingly willingly reject the clearly offered free gift of salvation by belief on Jesus Christ who died to take away sin -- well the Bible says these unbelievers will be cast into the lake of fire prepared for the devil and his angels

I personally choose to stick very closely to what the Bible says -- and receive the promises freely given :-)

the warnings are for the unruly of which I've certainly been one. I have chosen to turn to the Lord in these last days and I'm always happy to give the reason for the hope I have in Him!

love peace and joy

rb

I think the idea was that the Emperor Constantine would be followed by other emperors who would gradually conquer the whole world, bring the whole world eventually to its knees and everyone forced to worship the Christian God. They got through Europe and to many of the South Seas and South America, but they never conquered the whole world. And it won't ever happen now.

interesting question.

I can't imagine a human face to face with the reality of His presence not choosing repentence and submission.

Beats me, yet they do it all the time. Seems to go hand in hand with the join-my-gang-or-die mentality.

say "fuck you" to your brother for me OP.

unless he's busy sucking cock.

Lookin' for "Robbie Lee" again?

Yep...that's pretty much how it will go down.

He deserves everyone to kneel before him; especially those who hate him and are defiant.

I look forward to it.

You know there are people God is deliberately keeping in unbelief, right?

Yeah, long as they git what they deserve, etc.

condescending asshat !

If you believe in The Bible as truth, then you cannot take out anything to make it suit your own desires. Yes, God will clearly deny them the promised salvation just as we as parents give our own children way too many chances, and when they snub our rules, they are then subjected to punishment.

I am willing to bet that their "WILL" be some extenuating circumstances, because HE is however the Forgiving God. This would be categorized as one of those things that we will never know the answer to, until Jesus comes.

This is the sad truth of things. Free will gives us all a chance to accept Christ, or to snub him. We are here to bring ourselves to understand that where there is good, also lurking; is evil. Many believe on one, but refuse to believe in the other. Their free will either allow them to stand on one side or the other.

BUT, what about those who are in ignorance? Will that still be a valid point at that time? The Bible states that ALL will be given the choice, and the opportunity to accept Christ. Is it possible that some will have been overlooked?

This is clearly a Godly issue and one that we can't answer properly. We use our emotions to come to our conclusions and our questions. The best that we can do is to pray for those who have not accepted Christ as their savior. :)

Why do christians insist on worshiping Freewill? It's as though it's God's kryptonite or something.

Hey there AC 879764
Please understand that we do not "worship" freewill. We merely understand something that you do not right now.

Freewill is a gift that God gave us so that we may come to him on our own accord. He will never force us to choose Him over satan. That we come to him freely is what the choice is.

We "WORSHIP" only the Lord. We believe upon His Words, feeding our faith and melding it within our own understanding.

You needn't hate something that you don't understand, rather the better choice, would be to read the words yourself.

God doesn't need any kryptonite, but satan does.

If I gave you a choice of whether you would live or die today and go on into everlasting peace, which would you choose? Here we must die. Here it is an unknown future. There holds a promise of a peace that is everlasting.

Do yourself a huge favor and read the words of God. Ask him that if he is really there to give you some understanding and take his words to your heart, not your mind. Your heart cannot mislead you but your tongue and your brain can.

(a bump is a bump, I guess)

Acknowledging inescapable truth doesn't mean the heart accepts or embraces it.

I believe the answer can be found in the encounters that demons/unclean spirits had with Christ

They indeed confessed that Jesus is the Son of God

Unbelievers will find themselves in the same situation as the above mentioned..realising and confessing this truth but missing the grace & mercy offered NOW

And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.

And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?
Matthew 8

And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God
Mark 3:11

And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God.
Luke 4

thatas what I think,Mathetes...in that Day all will see Him and they will have to admit He is Lord.....

My prayer is God will have mercy---but He said that in that day it will be too late...

The unbelieving and evil shall be cast away---Please--whoever reads this--dont be in that number--take Christ as Savior today, while you still can....

OK, but did Christ shed blood for unclean spirits? Sure, devils believe and tremble, but that's not who he set out to redee, is it?

I don't think we understand God's mercy in dealing with people we christians dismiss without a second thought.
We seem to think he's issued this grim ultimatum and there's no "ifs, ands or buts" because he's okay with millions having to be destroyed or endlessly tortured.

That's really unfair of God, OP. He will redeem every human being, but isn't willing to redeem fallen angels. How fair is that? Not very.

Like who?

I'm personally not ruling out an eventual redemption of fallen angels or unclean spirits or whatever, but I don't think scripture addresses it. There are ages ahead of us during which God's plan will continue to unfold. Per OT law, redemption from an insurmountable debt requires a blood relative to step in and make the transaction.

Are you new here? Team Jebus is always dishing out a good portion of "enjoy hell, you loser" to mere detractors.

Tru Dat!