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Have you noticed the popular music SUCKS...and is SOULLESSS

 
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music today is all about polish.....

nail polish, car polish, polish sausage.....

recordings are too clean.....

i like my music with errors in it........

cause at least i know it`s not a robot who is singing......

music today is too snobby.........

and then you got the pimps and ho`s culture......

which kids take way too seriously.......

try going to see one of these clowns?

forget it...to expensive.....
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The worst part of todays music is the lyrics, the dark messages and negativity.

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JOE:
(Speculating on the future)
Well the years was rollin' by
Heavy Metal 'n Glitter Rock
Had caught the public eye
Snotty boys with lipstick on
Was really flyin' high
'N' then they got that Disco thing
'N' New Wave came along
'N' all of a sudden I thought the time
Had come for that old song
We used to play in "Joe's Garage"
And if I am not wrong
You will soon be dancin to...

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER:
The WHITE ZONE is for loading and unloading only. If you gotta load or
unload, go to the WHITE ZONE. You'll love it...

Forecast by Frank Zappa many, many years ago.


A great album.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 625043


And more or less great commentary on what FZ saw the 'music industry' devolving into.



He has realized at last that imaginary guitar notes and imaginary vocals exist only in the imagination of the imaginer, and ultimately, who gives a fuck anyways......

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Frank Zappa

You can't be a real country unless you have a beer and an airline. It helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need a beer.

Frank Zappa
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How long have you been hiding under that rock?

Have you noticed that popular music is no longer as "popular" as it once was? How many
golden oldie" radio stations does Sirius have? How many markets don't have "golden oldie" stations? How many young people listen to music by people now old enough to be their grandparents?
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that's true I went to festivals last year and the year before from www.festing.com (a great website to help people find them and most of them are free or nominal charge--it's the grub and BEER that costs moolah)

I noticed how many young people were there and knew all the words to the songs from these old bands that were from my day.........the 70s.....

So, I think what he is saying is true................and I don't blame them........I won't even listen to those nasty, hatred filled lyrics........they are soulless, empty, spineless, selfish and full of spite and hatred..........
either that or they are STUPID and sound like they were pieced together in a matter of minutes........
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How long have you been hiding under that rock?

Have you noticed that popular music is no longer as "popular" as it once was? How many
golden oldie" radio stations does Sirius have? How many markets don't have "golden oldie" stations? How many young people listen to music by people now old enough to be their grandparents?


I get that. I listen to Classic Rock (70's) and golden oldies myself. The so called pop music of today stinks!
 Quoting: kat38




[link to www.wdrv.com]

is a great station and it's worldwide streaming HD and they have regular tracks and deep tracks.....
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Amen to that...





Yeah!! Post your favorite oldies.



chorus
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If you like the Beatles, you may like [link to www.americanenglish.com]

they are the best Beatles' Tribute band.......the u-tube videos do them no justice, you have to go to their website and see where they are playing and go and see them......


FORTUNATELY FOR ME, IT'S ALMOST ALWAYS NEAR ME..........especially in the summer.............
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i really would love to agree, but being that they obviously do these retarded things upon themselves, nothing can be done but to watch their stupidity give birth to an entire generation of metro/slut cunts. - this is how i would explain the basic human perception of the devil and heracy.
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JOE:
(Speculating on the future)
Well the years was rollin' by
Heavy Metal 'n Glitter Rock
Had caught the public eye
Snotty boys with lipstick on
Was really flyin' high
'N' then they got that Disco thing
'N' New Wave came along
'N' all of a sudden I thought the time
Had come for that old song
We used to play in "Joe's Garage"
And if I am not wrong
You will soon be dancin to...

CENTRAL SCRUTINIZER:
The WHITE ZONE is for loading and unloading only. If you gotta load or
unload, go to the WHITE ZONE. You'll love it...

Forecast by Frank Zappa many, many years ago.


A great album.


And more or less great commentary on what FZ saw the 'music industry' devolving into.



He has realized at last that imaginary guitar notes and imaginary vocals exist only in the imagination of the imaginer, and ultimately, who gives a fuck anyways......
 Quoting: centralscrutinizer






and fuck yeh frank zappa. what a sick cunt
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Music’s diversity is decreasing, fast. Electro-techno-pop has clogged popular music like oil has clogged the Gulf of Mexico. With its clichéd bass and its predictable chords, this ‘music’ can be made by almost anyone with a computer. In this ‘music’, there is little emotion, courtesy of the heavy use of computers and only one human playing an instrument (vocals). Emotion is what defines music; you don’t listen to music that has a neutral feeling and doesn’t express anything. You listen to music that makes you happy or makes you want to kick some butt.
Way back when there were only bands playing in clubs, the foundation of the songs were always made according to the genre of music being played. After that, however, composers and bandleaders got creative, inventing new chord progressions, grooves, and adding rhythms from other genres of music in their songs or solos. The mainstream music, as I said before, uses the same rhythms, over and over and over again. The artists seem deaf to other rhythms of music, such as swing and cascara.
Another major difference between modern music and musosaurs, (popular music-dinosaurs) like jazz and funk, is that there is soloing. Soloing is the unofficial proving ground in jazz, and more or less determines how good of a musician you are. It measures creativity, ‘keeping the beat’, use of space, boldness and countless more. These areas of musicianship apply even when reading from a score. Popular music has made soloing extinct because of our conformity oriented minds, exactly the opposite of Shakespeare’s quote: ‘When the sea was calm, all the boats alike showed mastership in floating’.
Soloing has been treated like technology from the 1800’s; it’s all good and fine, but our way is more efficient. But that mindset is completely wrong; soloing is what makes the music good; why would you want to go to a concert where the musician plays his/her record note for note? You can get that on your iPod. Just like what Shakespeare said, if there is no pressure, everyone is good.
The top forty hits are decided on who is the prettiest. Record labels want to make money, so they only sign on with good-looking people for publicity and advertising.
When you go to a party outside of school and you change the style of music that’s being played, a symphony of moans that range from “I hate this song!” to “Eww, what is this? It sucks!” These complaints arise instantaneously, and you get angry at everyone who made one. You think, Why can’t everyone be tolerant of other people’s music, so not only one group of people have fun? If you aren’t a robot, this pisses you off, and makes the party ridiculously stupid (at least from my experience).
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something about a lot of popular music is that they say "ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhooohhh" a lot which could be some way for the singer to take over our souls.
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Popular music has always been shite.

Look at the charts from previous decades - most of the time you'll only actually recognize a couple of artists - the rest is disposable crap that's long forgotten.

Go to a Goodwill and check out records - count the copies of Englebert Humperdink, Anne Murray, Johnny Mathis, Barbara Streisand... These people were HUGE at the time but who listens to them now?

Or heck - I'm old enough to remember most of the 70s. The biggest song when I was in the third grade was Debbie Boone's You Light Up My Life. NOBODY listens to that now, except as a joke. Sean Cassidy and David Cassidy were the Justin Beibers of the day - again NOBODY listens to them now.

People only listen to the cool stuff years later but a lot of the time they weren't really that commercially popular when they came out and few hit number 1 consistently.
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No matter what century or if it is current music and no matter what style I still hear:

1. Chords,
2. Chord progressions
3. Key signature
4. Tempo
5. Modality
6. Modal Interchange


Still with only seven modes and seven notes with only so many combination of chords, tensions and progressions.

So...I don't really hear any difference.

IN OTHER WORDS....a I IV V or even a jazz cadence (ii V I) is still the same now as it always was.

When I hear classic rock, classical, jazz, ska, country, adult contmep., Musican theater, music scores for movies, electronica, blues, metal, hip hop, reggae, ska, folk, new world beat, latin, new beat or instrumental I still hear the same thing since the beginning...chords, chord changes, a tonic/do, modes, possible modulation and blue notes or tensions.
 Quoting: Winningjob


Chords and the rest are just the container/carrier of the "substance".
It is not tempo, modality etc that fills your heart with pure joy, makes you remember, makes you cry or laugh...it is the "substance" the "soul" or the human spirit or the energy.

That is what is missing from today's songs. - No wonder; they are industrially produced and played by digital instruments and software, sung by whitewashed, soulless beings.

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Thousands of great songs are born even in this moment all over the world but they all go unnoticed on the US market because there is no money in them.
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Popular music has always been shite.

Look at the charts from previous decades - most of the time you'll only actually recognize a couple of artists - the rest is disposable crap that's long forgotten.

Go to a Goodwill and check out records - count the copies of Englebert Humperdink, Anne Murray, Johnny Mathis, Barbara Streisand... These people were HUGE at the time but who listens to them now?

Or heck - I'm old enough to remember most of the 70s. The biggest song when I was in the third grade was Debbie Boone's You Light Up My Life. NOBODY listens to that now, except as a joke. Sean Cassidy and David Cassidy were the Justin Beibers of the day - again NOBODY listens to them now.

People only listen to the cool stuff years later but a lot of the time they weren't really that commercially popular when they came out and few hit number 1 consistently.
 Quoting: Jessica6


Exactly, you are so right! Good post.
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Music’s diversity is decreasing, fast. Electro-techno-pop has clogged popular music like oil has clogged the Gulf of Mexico. With its clichéd bass and its predictable chords, this ‘music’ can be made by almost anyone with a computer. In this ‘music’, there is little emotion, courtesy of the heavy use of computers and only one human playing an instrument (vocals). Emotion is what defines music; you don’t listen to music that has a neutral feeling and doesn’t express anything. You listen to music that makes you happy or makes you want to kick some butt.
Way back when there were only bands playing in clubs, the foundation of the songs were always made according to the genre of music being played. After that, however, composers and bandleaders got creative, inventing new chord progressions, grooves, and adding rhythms from other genres of music in their songs or solos. The mainstream music, as I said before, uses the same rhythms, over and over and over again. The artists seem deaf to other rhythms of music, such as swing and cascara.
Another major difference between modern music and musosaurs, (popular music-dinosaurs) like jazz and funk, is that there is soloing. Soloing is the unofficial proving ground in jazz, and more or less determines how good of a musician you are. It measures creativity, ‘keeping the beat’, use of space, boldness and countless more. These areas of musicianship apply even when reading from a score. Popular music has made soloing extinct because of our conformity oriented minds, exactly the opposite of Shakespeare’s quote: ‘When the sea was calm, all the boats alike showed mastership in floating’.
Soloing has been treated like technology from the 1800’s; it’s all good and fine, but our way is more efficient. But that mindset is completely wrong; soloing is what makes the music good; why would you want to go to a concert where the musician plays his/her record note for note? You can get that on your iPod. Just like what Shakespeare said, if there is no pressure, everyone is good.
The top forty hits are decided on who is the prettiest. Record labels want to make money, so they only sign on with good-looking people for publicity and advertising.
When you go to a party outside of school and you change the style of music that’s being played, a symphony of moans that range from “I hate this song!” to “Eww, what is this? It sucks!” These complaints arise instantaneously, and you get angry at everyone who made one. You think, Why can’t everyone be tolerant of other people’s music, so not only one group of people have fun? If you aren’t a robot, this pisses you off, and makes the party ridiculously stupid (at least from my experience).
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Electronic music is quite refreshing and infinitely more complex than the "souless" verse ,chorus, verse indie crap we are forced to endure these days. A good DJ is like a practiced violinist; an expert at complex composition and timing. But I soundly agree that the instrument, lyrical pop music today is awful.
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No matter what century or if it is current music and no matter what style I still hear:

1. Chords,
2. Chord progressions
3. Key signature
4. Tempo
5. Modality
6. Modal Interchange


Still with only seven modes and seven notes with only so many combination of chords, tensions and progressions.

So...I don't really hear any difference.

IN OTHER WORDS....a I IV V or even a jazz cadence (ii V I) is still the same now as it always was.

When I hear classic rock, classical, jazz, ska, country, adult contmep., Musican theater, music scores for movies, electronica, blues, metal, hip hop, reggae, ska, folk, new world beat, latin, new beat or instrumental I still hear the same thing since the beginning...chords, chord changes, a tonic/do, modes, possible modulation and blue notes or tensions.
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What about the soul? The SOUL, MAN????
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What about the soul? The SOUL, MAN????
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Either you have soul or you don't.

I had dinner tonight at Mimi's cafe and they have a "jazz theme". I really enjoy that they play music like some big band or Sinatra or even cover tunes with a muted trumpet or some funk, but even with the ones they played you could tell that some musicians were more studio if you know what I mean then soul.
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all the singers today OVERSING their songs.I mean they have to use at least never ending cadenza in each song.I been playing music since I was 7 and even though I didnt obtain a level of success as these artist I am not bitter.the real crime is that kids today are being ripped off. In 5-10 years they are gonna be real mad about the fact that the songbook of their lived is jayz eminem and lady gaga.I was lucky being a teen in the early 80s we at least got some good music . and while I am at it if I hear one more twerp butcher the national anthem.......
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pop music is strictly a math formula. from the beetles to lady gaga. love it or hate it, its all the same. elvis broke barriers and lady gaga is doing the same. i think your anger should be directed toward pop culture.
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No matter what century or if it is current music and no matter what style I still hear:

1. Chords,
2. Chord progressions
3. Key signature
4. Tempo
5. Modality
6. Modal Interchange


Still with only seven modes and seven notes with only so many combination of chords, tensions and progressions.

So...I don't really hear any difference.

IN OTHER WORDS....a I IV V or even a jazz cadence (ii V I) is still the same now as it always was.

When I hear classic rock, classical, jazz, ska, country, adult contmep., Musican theater, music scores for movies, electronica, blues, metal, hip hop, reggae, ska, folk, new world beat, latin, new beat or instrumental I still hear the same thing since the beginning...chords, chord changes, a tonic/do, modes, possible modulation and blue notes or tensions.
 Quoting: Winningjob

Yes, I agree with much of what you say, Really these progressions as we kow them have been around since the begining of "western music" predating the renisance era.

Music is an a languge that allows one to speak to many at the same time, it is a way f expressing emotion and thought without saying words...for the composer and or musician, it is an unknowing quest for imortality...

that being said, I am an old fart...compared to most of you whipersnappers{ get the hell off my lawn} and I would say to the poster that you watch too much fukin' tv if you think that that is what "popular" music is....those are "artist's" who use jew composers{i should know I'm one} to write ther shit{gaga actully does most of her crap and can kinda sing} and then they are propmoted to you via jew propaganda...they suck because they are not conveying honest emotion...gaga's aleHANDRO...is a perfect example of good writing gone bad...that song would be fine{as much of a madonna rip off as it is} if it were 3 min 23 sec....instead of what time she extended that crap too by breaking down the crappy loop a thosand different ways at the "end"...more like never end....

that being said...

have some fukin crabcore you punks
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pop music is strictly a math formula. from the beetles to lady gaga. love it or hate it, its all the same. elvis broke barriers and lady gaga is doing the same. i think your anger should be directed toward pop culture.
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What? Beatles is pop music???? Math formula??? You cannot be serious...
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turn off the radio dude

go with independent artists that are not reliant on a big record label

all the POP STARS are backed by an illuminati record company which tells them WHAT to SING and HOW THEIR MUSIC VIDEOS are to look

take Christina Aguelira for example, bitch flipped a switch in her video "i'm not myself tonight"

Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga are obvious suck musically and lyrically and their voices. No one can deny that and if you do you're retarded.

Now one can argue Beynonce has talent, however, the content is very vacant and negative these days compared to her early years. And we all know about her "altar ego" indicating she's another mind controlled puppet.

SO WHO ARE THESE PUPPETS and why are the chosen?

It's not for talent so what is it?

Is it the fact that they so easily go along and never fight the PROGRAMMING?

Is this an indication that these folks don't really have souls or the soul has left the vessel?

I'm starting to feel much less "sorry" for the Rhiannas and the Taylors and the Jessicas. The spark inside anyone with a soul would fight this shit instead of going along with it like a vacant doll.

I no longer support the entertainment industry monitarily and that's all I can do for your sick little Hollywood you all still pay for. pennywise sheeplebah s226 deadhorse



Does this look like someone I should feel "sorry" for?
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pop music is strictly a math formula. from the beetles to lady gaga. love it or hate it, its all the same. elvis broke barriers and lady gaga is doing the same. i think your anger should be directed toward pop culture.


What? Beatles is pop music???? Math formula??? You cannot be serious...
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beatles were genius.
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No matter what century or if it is current music and no matter what style I still hear:

1. Chords,
2. Chord progressions
3. Key signature
4. Tempo
5. Modality
6. Modal Interchange


Still with only seven modes and seven notes with only so many combination of chords, tensions and progressions.

So...I don't really hear any difference.

IN OTHER WORDS....a I IV V or even a jazz cadence (ii V I) is still the same now as it always was.

When I hear classic rock, classical, jazz, ska, country, adult contmep., Musican theater, music scores for movies, electronica, blues, metal, hip hop, reggae, ska, folk, new world beat, latin, new beat or instrumental I still hear the same thing since the beginning...chords, chord changes, a tonic/do, modes, possible modulation and blue notes or tensions.




Chords and the rest are just the container/carrier of the "substance".
It is not tempo, modality etc that fills your heart with pure joy, makes you remember, makes you cry or laugh...it is the "substance" the "soul" or the human spirit or the energy.

That is what is missing from today's songs. - No wonder; they are industrially produced and played by digital instruments and software, sung by whitewashed, soulless beings.
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Wow am I happy to see this thread ressurected! rockon
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Wow am I happy to see this thread ressurected! rockon
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Brought back from the Abyss of GLP, eh?!
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Yup. aka.. Sex on a public stage.Buch of half dressed trash that cannot sing. I hate those tinnie teenie voices.
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How long have you been hiding under that rock?

Have you noticed that popular music is no longer as "popular" as it once was? How many
golden oldie" radio stations does Sirius have? How many markets don't have "golden oldie" stations? How many young people listen to music by people now old enough to be their grandparents?
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Yeah thats true. I actually like the new format alot of local stations are turning into, little bit of everything 70s-90s.
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this has been running through my mind a lot lately. one of my old favorites. Seems to fit the times, time after time.
feeling nostalgic tonight, thanks yall.

Bob Seger---Against The Wind

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love and peace to us all
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6.8 Billion people on the planet and we only get to hear the musical creations of a few hundred of thousand?

There is something very seriously wrong with that picture.

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