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Anonymous Coward User ID: 880409 United States 02/04/2010 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When did the retards come to control the republican party? MSNBC’s David Shuster Smears: ‘Most Republicans’ Are Birthers By Scott Whitlock Created 02/02/2010 - 12:13
MSNBC’s David Shuster on Tuesday used a poll [1] by the liberal website nope to assert that "most Republicans" don’t believe Barack Obama was born in America and, thus, are birthers. Shuster marveled, "...As the Democrats try to talk about working with Republicans, given those numbers of Republican supporters, how is that possible?" [Audio available here [2].]
Citing a survey that also claims 23 percent of self-identified Republicans want to secede from the union, Shuster quizzed Andy Barr from Politico as to the poll’s meaning. After Shuster correctly noted, "It is a documented fact. The President was born in Hawaii," he used this one poll to declare, "And most Republicans aren't sure, don't believe it; there you have it."
So, one poll, by a left-wing website (in conjunction with the firm Research 2000), is enough for MSNBC to assert that 58 percent of GOPers subscribe to a bizarre conspiracy? A Rasmussen poll [3] from May of 2007 found that 61 percent of Democrats either believed that George Bush knew about the 9/11 terror attack in advance or aren’t sure. Does that mean that "most Democrats" are Truthers?
Politico’s Barr urged Shuster to use some caution. Speaking of the nope founder, he warned, "Well, the first thing I want to caution is these are kind of the top lines that Markos Moulitsas put out on Twitter last night. We haven't seen the survey sample and everything." (The sample has since been put online [4].)
Discussing the issue with Shuster, Barr took a shot at Fox News’ Glenn Beck: "...Just looking at the stuff, those social issues, and you know, some of the more conspiratorial things put out there by Glenn Beck and others, some of the stuff out there on the fringe is really starting to resonate."
The above statement is clumsy at best in that it seems to link Beck with the birther conspiracy. In fact, the FNC host has slammed the false idea [5] that Obama wasn’t born in America as "the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard."
MSNBC seems to be embracing the plan, first put out by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, that Republicans should be linked to birthers. On Monday, host Tamron Hall [5] asked if the conspiracy theory is the "definition of a conservative."
A transcript of the segment, which aired at 10:46am EST on February 2, follows:
DAVID SHUSTER: Meanwhile, we’ve got a new snapshot of Republican Party and Republican Party supporters, fresh off that major victory for the GOP in the Massachusetts Senate race. According to the poll from the liberal blog nope/Research 2000, 39 percent of self-identified Republicans say President Obama should be impeached, 63 percent think he's a socialist. Less than half, 42 percent, believe he was born in the United States. In other words, 58 percent either don't believe it or aren't sure. Politico's Andy Barr joins us live. And, Andy, as the Democrats try to talk about working with Republicans, given those numbers of Republican supporters, how is that possible?
ANDY BARR: Well, the first thing I want to caution is these are kind of the top lines that Markos Moulitsas put out on Twitter last night. We haven’t seen the survey sample and everything. Now, Survey 2000 certainly it is a firm that is reputable. They have gotten a lot of stuff right, but that is just the one clarifier here. But, in looking at the numbers, some of the stuff is crazy. I mean, we’re talking, you know, a fifth of the Republican Party thinks that ACORN stole the election and want to secede from the country and 40 percent think Barack Obama was born in another country. I mean, it’s really kind of shocking. We talk about stuff all the time but to see that this many people believe and subscribe to some of these beliefs is, you know, is really kind of hard to wrap your arms around.
SHUSTER: In fact, referring to those other numbers, number two, 53 percent believe Sarah Palin more qualified to be President than President Obama. 23 percent self-identified Republicans want to secede from the United States. 21 percent Say ACORN stole the presidential election, 73 percent against gay teachers. What do you make of this?
BARR: I mean, if they have are the survey sample right, which, again, you know, there’s no indication they wouldn't, it shows the party is a lot farther right than I think anyone really grasps on some of these social issues. I think you know, the gay teachers thing is really shocking. One of the things they noted is that is actually, you know, farther to the right than Ronald Reagan in 1978 when there were people in California pushing this kind of thing. So you know, again, just looking at the stuff, those social issues, and you know, some of the more conspiratorial things put out there by Glenn Beck and others, some of the stuff out there on the fringe is really starting to resonate.
SHUSTER: Andy Barr from Politico, Andy, thanks so much. And, again, you are absolutely right. I mean, when- it is a fact. It is a documented fact. The President was born in Hawaii. And most Republicans aren't sure; don't believe it, there you have it. Thanks, Andy. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 880409 United States 02/04/2010 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? Seems to me what was once the party of the well heeled and elite, well educated, etc. has become somewhat of a looney bin for retards, racists, rednecks, and all the rest of the unwashed. Too bad. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 02/04/2010 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? If the shoe fits, wear it.
And to answer the title question, I would guess about 15 minutes after Abe Lincoln died.
Don't feel bad, they run the Dims too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8398 United States 02/04/2010 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? If the shoe fits, wear it.
And to answer the title question, I would guess about 15 minutes after Abe Lincoln died.
Don't feel bad, they run the Dims too.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373696What he said. Neither party has ever intented to fix or lead anything. Only tools for division. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 882031 United States 02/04/2010 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party?
If you have not seen the birth certificate Obama placed on his website then you really don't know, OP. It was not a legal proof of citizenship but something any adoptive walkin could get in Hawaii at the time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 861270 United States 02/04/2010 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? Ronald Reagan liberals. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 880409 United States 02/04/2010 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? Ronald Reagan liberals.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 861270What the hell does that mean? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 880409 United States 02/04/2010 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? If you have not seen the birth certificate Obama placed on his website then you really don't know, OP. It was not a legal proof of citizenship but something any adoptive walkin could get in Hawaii at the time.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882031What are you, the secretary of state? I doubt you know what you're talking about. |
fire Uncle Scam
User ID: 690564 United States 02/04/2010 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? It all started with dumbya. Oh and as a former lifetime Republican, I voted for him the first time. HUGE mistake. America, Idiocracy in the making. The nanny state wins and Darwin loses; survival of the dumbest and laziest is all but guaranteed. [ link to trianglefreeforum.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 758025 United States 02/04/2010 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? If you have not seen the birth certificate Obama placed on his website then you really don't know, OP. It was not a legal proof of citizenship but something any adoptive walkin could get in Hawaii at the time.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882031I don't care. As long as his mother was a US citizen, he is naturally a US citizen in my book. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 758025 United States 02/04/2010 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? did the founding fathers have birth certificates?
Just wondering, because how do we prove they even were who they clammed they were.
oooh, what if one was one of them British commies!!! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 880409 United States 02/04/2010 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? It all started with dumbya.
Oh and as a former lifetime Republican, I voted for him the first time.
HUGE mistake.
Quoting: fire Uncle ScamSame here man. I don't know what the hell is happening to the party, but it really sucks. I don't like the whackos taking over. |
jnchisox1
User ID: 773524 United States 02/04/2010 02:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? Show the birth certificate and us "retards" will shut up, that simple |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 880409 United States 02/04/2010 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? Show the birth certificate and us "retards" will shut up, that simple
Quoting: jnchisox1No you won't, your issues go faaaarrrrrr beyond the bc. You're a bunch of loons who don't even deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 856872 United States 02/04/2010 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? until people start realizing that it's NOT party issues and it IS the complete congress - nothing will change.
all of our public serpents are what's killing us... |
jnchisox1
User ID: 773524 United States 02/04/2010 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? Show the birth certificate and us "retards" will shut up, that simple
No you won't, your issues go faaaarrrrrr beyond the bc. You're a bunch of loons who don't even deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 880409hes a shitty president, get your head out of your ass dummy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 873251 United States 02/04/2010 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party?
Show the birth certificate and us "retards" will shut up, that simple
No you won't, your issues go faaaarrrrrr beyond the bc. You're a bunch of loons who don't even deserve to breathe the same air as the rest of us.
hes a shitty president, get your head out of your ass dummy
Quoting: jnchisox1If you think he is any different from any other president, you're the dummy. My team vs. your team is just another means of control. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 711379 United States 02/04/2010 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? Seems to me what was once the party of the well heeled and elite, well educated, etc. has become somewhat of a looney bin for retards, racists, rednecks, and all the rest of the unwashed. Too bad.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 880409How do you hide Barney Frank,Nancy Pelosi??.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 653602 United States 02/04/2010 03:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? When both political parties realize that they have to take a dump on their throne in the bathroom like the rest of us. |
revealerofsecrets
User ID: 882275 United States 02/04/2010 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? It's all smoke and mirrors. It is true nothing has really changed. they don't really want to pass health care. It's all about how can I rob the these poor slaves of mine better. Rape piledge and plunder thats the name of the game. Both sides suck. In fact world war 3 seems more likely evry day. You can't stop smart!!! Reverse socialism = The rich picking the pockets of the poor using Port Authoritites, Water Ath,Metro Ath, Etc. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 869845 United States 02/04/2010 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party?
Seems to me what was once the party of the well heeled and elite, well educated, etc. has become somewhat of a looney bin for retards, racists, rednecks, and all the rest of the unwashed. Too bad.
How do you hide Barney Frank,Nancy Pelosi??..
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 711379I didn't know John Boner and crew were any better. Good republicans are far and few between. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 882031 United States 02/04/2010 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? If you have not seen the birth certificate Obama placed on his website then you really don't know, OP. It was not a legal proof of citizenship but something any adoptive walkin could get in Hawaii at the time. ___
I don't care. As long as his mother was a US citizen, he is naturally a US citizen in my book.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758025You don't write the book. And we don't know who his mother is or where he was born without the BC. |
DanG User ID: 878191 United States 02/04/2010 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? ask Rove - he's made a fortune from it.
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 859190 United States 02/04/2010 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: When did the retards come to control the republican party? Seems to me what was once the party of the well heeled and elite, well educated, etc. has become somewhat of a looney bin for retards, racists, rednecks, and all the rest of the unwashed. Too bad.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 880409Totally agree...its a shame that these people can't step out of the Right Vs. Left matrix and realize that Righ=Left and Left=Right and focus their anger and energy on "The Game" and not "The Players." |
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