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France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon

 
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France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
France's immigration minister said he is refusing citizenship to a Muslim man who called his wife "an inferior being," and forced her to wear a full veil in public, an announcement that plays well with French public support for a burqa ban.

"He has no place in our country," Prime Minister Francois Fillon told Europe 1 radio, in a decision that comes a week after a French parliamentary commission recommended a partial ban on any veils that cover the face. The ban still needs to be voted on, but it would apply in hospitals and on public transport. France already has bans for wearing headscarves in state schools.

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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
Finally! Amen.
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
That's a great precedent!
Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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Finally some good news for a change...
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
as gross as it feels to agree with anything mathetes posts because I realize he is only trying to incite racial hatred (islamophobia), I do agree with banning the burka.

It is not good for the host country if the new immigrants do not assimilate. I am an immigrant myself and strive to assimilate to my host country. If I wanted the culture of my home country, I should return to it NOT try to impose it on my new country.

Immigrants have a duty to assimilate to the new culture or leave.
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02/04/2010 05:51 PM
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
many banks now refuse people who are wearing
any type of head and face covering
and that includes veils, hats,head scarfs,
sunglasses, hooded jackets etc.
Security gets called and you either
remove the covering
or get escorted out of there.
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02/04/2010 05:57 PM
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
as gross as it feels to agree with anything mathetes posts because I realize he is only trying to incite racial hatred (islamophobia), I do agree with banning the burka.

It is not good for the host country if the new immigrants do not assimilate. I am an immigrant myself and strive to assimilate to my host country. If I wanted the culture of my home country, I should return to it NOT try to impose it on my new country.

Immigrants have a duty to assimilate to the new culture or leave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728



Yup
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
yeah baby bring it on.
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
many banks now refuse people who are wearing
any type of head and face covering
and that includes veils, hats,head scarfs,
sunglasses, hooded jackets etc.
Security gets called and you either
remove the covering
or get escorted out of there.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554423

It's dangerous to have a class of hidden, invisible non-people moving around in public.

Not to mention creepy and unhealthy
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
I never thought I would say/type this but, Congratulations France you are standing up to the Islamic beast! If only my Nation of the United States would do the same, I envy the French on this day. The rest Europe needs to have the courage of France and stand firm against the Muslim/Jew menace, rekindle the greatness that was once Europa.
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I never thought I would say/type this but, Congratulations France you are standing up to the Islamic beast! If only my Nation of the United States would do the same, I envy the French on this day. The rest Europe needs to have the courage of France and stand firm against the Muslim/Jew menace, rekindle the greatness that was once Europa.
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
as gross as it feels to agree with anything mathetes posts because I realize he is only trying to incite racial hatred (islamophobia), I do agree with banning the burka.

It is not good for the host country if the new immigrants do not assimilate. I am an immigrant myself and strive to assimilate to my host country. If I wanted the culture of my home country, I should return to it NOT try to impose it on my new country.

Immigrants have a duty to assimilate to the new culture or leave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 664728


Islamophobia = racial hatred now??? Which race is that???

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Dear sir, poor sir, brave sir: You are an experiment by the Creator of the Universe. You are the only creature in the entire Universe who has free will. You are the only one who has to figure out what to do next--and why. Everybody else is a robot, a machine.

"MANE – THECEL – PHARES."
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clappa
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France has more balls than the USA!
I never thought this day would come.
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02/04/2010 06:24 PM
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bsflag
french people dont ask for this.
only politics want this BS! and it is better for them to speak about such "problem" than discuss the reel ones : bankster and mafia...
people here don't discuss about this, but about how they will finish the month and pay the bill!
like in USA i assume.

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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
I'm starting to like France more and more. The country is named after a battle axe. Apparently they used to be some bad ass MF'rs.
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02/04/2010 06:28 PM
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
Good for them. Citizenship is an honor, not a right. I've never been a Francophile, but at least they are actually being consistent. banana2
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02/04/2010 06:39 PM
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
omg this muslim hate is really stupid

This guy's wife was in france so she could have easily left him if she wanted to, especially with a french passport.

The truth this is not about protecting women or the "European Judaeo-christian" identity (whatever that is). It's about oppressing any expressions unrelated to western culture by the minority muslim population, which people in the west have been fearing and loathing since 9/11.

This ban, if it passes, would go against the natural right of people to practice their religious beliefs as they may see fit. While the way a burqa appears may not be the most appealing, it certainly does no one harm when it's worn by a consenting adult.
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
WOOOT for France!


The spirit of Charles Martel (who kicked the first wave of raiding Muslimes out of France) is alive and well in France!
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bsflag
french people dont ask for this.
only politics want this BS! and it is better for them to speak about such "problem" than discuss the reel ones : bankster and mafia...
people here don't discuss about this, but about how they will finish the month and pay the bill!
like in USA i assume.

Idol1
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bump bump
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
omg this muslim hate is really stupid

This guy's wife was in france so she could have easily left him if she wanted to, especially with a french passport.

The truth this is not about protecting women or the "European Judaeo-christian" identity (whatever that is). It's about oppressing any expressions unrelated to western culture by the minority muslim population, which people in the west have been fearing and loathing since 9/11.

This ban, if it passes, would go against the natural right of people to practice their religious beliefs as they may see fit. While the way a burqa appears may not be the most appealing, it certainly does no one harm when it's worn by a consenting adult.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 767046



stfu


If his wife left him, she'd end up dead.
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02/04/2010 06:53 PM
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
I think i will move to France after all. They finally wised up.

America never will until it's civil war time.
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
That man did not commit a crime. She is his wife and this is their private relationship. Denying him citizenship is going to cause her problems as much as it's going to cause him problems.

He doesnt put a veil on other people's wives, how can others demand that his wife take hers off.

I think that the reason that some people on this forum support this action is because they believe in female supremacy, especially if they only proclaim unilateral approval without providing a supporting logically-valid argument.
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Vive la France!

deb deb deeb deb deb deeeeeb deb deb...
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Finally! Amen.
 Quoting: crazycanuck 807970


So then you can ban all Orthodox Jews who believe women are inferior in accordance with there teachings. Or what about Christians many sects believe women are inferior in some fashion and proscribe to them restrictions. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
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good move france.. bump
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
Vive la France!

deb deb deeb deb deb deeeeeb deb deb...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 882484


in fact its more : "la france est morte, vive la france!"
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Re: France denies citizenship to man with veiled wife;"He has no place in our country," PM Fillon
I'm starting to like France more and more. The country is named after a battle axe. Apparently they used to be some bad ass MF'rs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 793891


So you are in favor of higher taxes and socialized medicine then? Or is it just racism that makes you happy?
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France has more balls than the USA!
I never thought this day would come.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 881676


So, you like the limiting of personal freedoms then. So can I count you in on the socialist movement in the USA. Would you like a red hat comrade. So many on this site complain about the limiting of personal freedoms in the USA such as gun laws, but love to see people "not like them" having there freedoms limited. How about this we ban Muslims and with them gone we ban all guns in the USA that way I feel safer as well.
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