SALVIA DIVINORUM...ANY TRIPPERS EXPERIENCED "THE WHEEL"?

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Holy shit I just finished watching that and it deserves it's own thread. Has it got one? Or will you make one? It's amazing! I WISH EVERYONE COULD SEE IT! I have never seen someone who could talk or communicate almost at ALL on salvia. If that is legitimate then it seems he stole knowledge from another dimension and brought it back here... they entity told him not to tell us.. I hope I didn't learn forbidden knowledge or something that i will be punished for later.

Just made one.

Thread: Guy Talks To Beings From Behind The Veil On Salvia

i was shown this wheel by beings in brown robes. it was in
a dream state but i can't remember if i was on shrooms or not.
it was a crazy time for me...they also showed me that all
life comes from this huge lightning tesla electricity tree
thing in space. i sometimes say some crazy shit but
i am serious about this.

A lot of you guys describe this spinning whirling, or twirling sensation within yourselves, does it kind of feel like you are whirling inside of yourself? kind of like you are imploding and spinning at the same time?

I have had this experience in dreams before i encounter things like elves and ufos. I was wondering what this is, as if it were a key.

oh this guy is great :)
i saw perspective as a round circle
no lines, parabolic look

i was out to watch without some reference points in brain, so it was like without sense, without information about the perspective.. or it wasnt there..

This is strange because the one and only time i smoked 25x salvia. i drifted down off my setee and into and through the carpet which became liquid. the pin prickling was uncomfortable all over and inside my face.It was hard trying to swim back up especially as it was beatiful below the liquid sea. i met a freind who i havent seen for a long time and we went and sat in a neon coloured tray with seats. i was laughing and asked how he got here and then the tray lifted us up above the water line and back into the light and the view was amazing. we were on a massive ferris wheel all multicoloured and half in and half out of an estury with loads of little sail boats with white sales skipping accross a sunny choppy sea inlet with a beach. as i looked up to the other tray/cars there were freinds and recognisable little people waveing and stuff. once we got to the top i started to ask my freind who i thought was Rob what was going on and how come we had been here all along for years and then the wheel started to go back down to the water and it was then i new i should not go out of the light. in fact a massive fear started to build and we both new there was somthing bad under the water that would be out of all control.So i started to swim hard and that was when i was pulled slowly back up through the floor and into the room by my wife. it took about 20 mins for me to be able to talk properly as my mouth felt like i had been to a dentist and had been O.Dd with novacain.The funniest thing about it was a mate of mine i hadnt seen for 1 year had come round while all this was going on and had sat and watched me on my sofa. while i rolled around the floor like a tard. I offered him some when i got straight and he said fuck that and left shortly after. i later learnt that he was about to move up the other end of the country because a lot of sad stuff had happened at that time for him and he came to say goodbye.My wife tried some a day later and she met many of her dead family by a river and laughed a lot..mainly though she talked gobldy gook and later said she had been inside an old picture. Was weird and scary to watch. Be careful people dont bang there heads when they do this stuff. i know i will never do this again as you lose all self and ego and there is no control. i have done a lot of acid and shrooms and i tell you this stuff is not for fun it will find your fears and pain and force you to face it. Very hardcore..dont swim out further than you can swim back!

much more potent than LSD or shrooms
like 6 hours compressed in 15 minutes or so

well damn i want to punch holes in reality now

here's a fun, unexpected trip that made it's way in onto my path.

Thread: Holy Shit KETAMINE... what do you know about it?

Can someone help me? I've just taken Salvia Zone "Green" then "Yellow" then "Red" but it did nothing, i got a little light headed but nothing Astral no helusunegenics nothing just light headed. Do i need to do "Purple" or "Blue"?

I've done Mushrooms, Cocaine and smoked weed for 3 years none stop, could that be the reason when I'm no tripping?

Thanks,

Andy

You have hit the nail on the head. The first time I saw the wheel (and that's exactly how I described it), I went on a search to find someone else who saw it and they all said 'you were trippin'. The female spinning the wheel told me not to tell anyone what reality was, but I had too many questions.
I smoked it about seven times after that because I always came back in with more questions. Why was I OK with being stuck in this reality? Unless I chose to be in here. Why did I tell them to 'put me back in'? Why wasn't I supposed to tell anyone. Why was I allowed to see the wheel but no one else did? I know I have to die to get out, but why was I willing to wait?
After comming back in, why wasn't I allowed to remember the extent of my experience? Why wasn't I allowed to let my friends smoke it?
I smoked it one last time and it was not good. They made it very painful and scary to come back in. A four dimentional being being squished into 3D. Flat and solid. Every moment was a layer of paper on the wheel. Slowly layering my body back in to this reality. They gave me all the answers that last time, and yet again I don't rememberand am very OK with that. What I do remember is me promising them that I wouldn't smoke it ever again. I was being punished for not obeying their orders to pretend I never saw the reality of reality. I no longer take life so seriously. I now know this is just temporary, real life will continue when I get out of this life. I no longer have a fear of death. I know it's just a shedding of this body.
My first time seeing the wheel (my second time smoking) God made his presence know, but when I tried to look to my left where he was (the wheel curved to the right) he wouldn't let me turn to look at him. I was also an athiest before this.
If anyone sees the wheel, make that the last time you smoke. They get really annoyed at repeat users.

I had the same experience as this guy but no one beleived me. My sitter was amazed that I was talking to these 'people'. Most people just drool and laugh. I went months thinking I was the only one until my friend showed me this guy on youtube. My theory is the process of getting out of this reality is what most people experience, but once your all the way out, you are able to communicate with them. Watching him freak out and not wanting to be in this reality makes me wonder why I was so willing to come back in.

I prefer the 40x

The first time I smoked I laughed and drooled. It was as if my right and left sides of my body were two cylinders spinning inwards into the center of my face, a split right down the middle. It funny how everyone drools out the very middle of their lip, not the side, it's the split down the middle. The way out of this body and reality is inward. Maybe this is the Wheel of Suffering the Bhudda was trying to tell us about.

Kinda like the wheel from the price is right. Its like a waiting room in there hey?

It doesn't matter how potent or how much you smoke, it's not like acid or shrooms. Either you get out or you don't.
I had the same experience with a half a gram as I did with some crumbs left in the bottom of the same bottle. Either it affects you or not...the amount doesn't matter.

yes. I promised I wouldn't tell anyone every time but I did anyway and they got mad and punished me by making it physically painful.

sad people, sad
you reach so far and fall so short
you will see the wheel because you understand the wheel
you understand the linear
so you will be shown something that is a metaphor for the truth
not the truth itself
because you are supposed to THINK dammit
you think the answer is so simple
so did I once, but it isnt
it is beyond anything we can comprehend in this flesh
because this flesh knows only cause and effect
A to B
linear
get it?

to really understand how it works you have to lose the ego, lose the ID
become nothing become void
and THEN, maybe, you might understand
the wheel you see

our lives, our bodies, our existance is our ego...you lose that and you no longer exist here. no one can lose their whole ego within life. Our human minds aren't capable of comprehending the wheel. That's why no one remembers the extent of what they see. I did understand it while I was there, but within this life we can't comprehend.

Yup i have similar experiences. Little beings making up my body and landscape. Dancing and having fun with me. Colorful. And a happy Sun character which I guess is the wheel as it is 2 dimensional. And I reminded that they are always there..its always the same.

the onyl wheel i experienced was seeing a feriswhell and instead of there being metal poles shooting outward to the carts there were human bodied in their place, and i dont even want to think ab0out the shadows telling me to join them.....

gad some really good 35x from a local shop, but that was before they banned the shit.

I tried Salvia years ago. Lost my body and all sense of self. Not a fun trip. No desire to ever try it again. Give me nice clear LSD 25 anyday.

Can say with all certainly this is NOT a mainstream recreational drug. It's like 15 minutes of strong acid. Mind boggling to say the least. It's even more fucked up when you have to talk to authority figures after smoking it...

some ppl can handle it, had a friend who talked all kinda of shit because he did it once before, and as soon as he took a good hit, straight to the floor he went. OH i wish a i had some more, its nice to so every so often.

Does anyone get the feeling after you take the first hit where is feels like your body is slowly being enveloped by a snug "bubble" of sorts. Starting form the toe making its was up to the top of your head.

insane...im the OP of this thread, new address....glad to see 'renee' had the similar trip and saw the wheel..i feel terrible in talking about it (was told not to) but times have been tough and we all need a boost

i had a mini flashback on the train, really felt I was there again, funny cause i was on my way to do it again at a friend's and changed my mind at the last second (due to the flashback on the train)

i should just keep this a secret from now on...

how is it that you don't take things seriously? I remember feeling that for awhile after, but then shit happens...

I never heard about 'the wheel experience' in reference to salvia, but my last experience 8 years ago smoking some potent stuff from a bong left an impression (and a physical scar!) My vision was of a cluster of Mayan deities rolling across the landscape. The spirits were linked like circus acrobats holding hands to feet and attracting etheric bits of impure matter from souls.

I saw a doorway and felt the timing was critical in stepping thru...wait...wait....now! Next thing I knew, I woke up in a field near my house and was bleeding from my eyelid. I guess I hit my face on the doorframe at some point in my trip. But when I was coming to my senses, I had an intuition that something 'unholy' had come out of me at my eyelid. Needless to say, the experience scared me so badly that I never smoked it again.

On a side note, when I got married years later, my wife bought a game for the Nintendo Gamecube called "Katamari Damashii" that involves rolling a big ball of stuff over the landscape and being able to pick up bigger and bigger stuff as your ball grows (i.e. cars, animals, people). She translated the word as "sticky ball of stuff" but a cursory web search yields the more interesting (and accurate from my salvia vision) definition: "clump spirit."