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During a Disaster Event Should You Stay at Home or Leave?

 
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During a Disaster Event Should You Stay at Home or Leave?
During a Disaster Event Should You Stay at Home or Leave?

Different types of disasters may require a different response if a family wishes to maximize their chances for long-term survival. Therefore each family should have several different disaster plans they could successfully implement depending on the circumstances. These plans should include:

1.Staying at your home and being able to survive for a reasonable period of time without any outside assistance, and

2.Quickly and efficiently evacuating your home and traveling to a predetermined destination.

Neither one of the above strategies would always be the best choice for every possible type of disaster situation. Therefore each family should evaluate the advantages and disadvantages of both of the above options based on: (1) the type of disaster, (2) where they currently live, (3) the specific needs of their individual family members, (4) the amount of supplies they have stored for a disaster emergency, and (5) their ability to actually evacuate their current home or apartment.

Staying at home is probably the best overall strategy for most families in a variety of different disaster type situations. However, there are a few scenarios where your continued long-term survival may necessitate the evacuation of your home. For example, consider each of the following situations:

Fire in a city, suburb, or country: The only option is to leave and to leave quickly. Even if the fire doesn't reach your home, the smoke could make it impossible to breathe, or the heat could kill you. If your home does survive then the smoke from the fire will probably saturate many of your possessions and they will have to be replaced.

Flooding From Heavy Rains or Hurricanes: During severe flash flooding many homes, trees, and cars are completely swept away. If you stay you die. In other areas only the first floor of a home may be under water. You might be safe on the second floor, or in the attic, or on your roof. In most flooding situations the water does eventually recede and you can go downstairs. However, the building foundation is now weakened, the floors are warped, the walls are cracked and peeling, and the appliances are ruined. It these cases it frequently costs less to rebuild from scratch than to repair all the damaged areas. And living in the home during the repairs is not an option because the mold and mildew that is now growing in your floors and walls will produce air-borne spores that will make you sick and gradually kill you. If this situation your only option will be to leave. (Note: If you become unexpectedly stranded in your home during a flood and you can't evacuate, then you should quickly transfer your most important possessions to the second floor or attic to reduce the possibility of their becoming water damaged.)

Drought: The lakes dry up. The city water supply is exhausted. The city must be evacuated. You may stay if you wish but why would you want to? What type of people do you think will become your new neighbors? How will you survive when your current supply of food and water is eventually gone and the drought continues? Without rain there will be no way to replenish your water supply and no way to grow more food. Without water how will the city survive if someone's very small cooking fire accidentally gets out of control and quickly spreads throughout a very, very dry building? In a very short period of time the entire city will be in flames. And if the city has already been evacuated then you will not receive any warning until you see the flames or smell the smoke, assuming it doesn't happen while you are asleep.

Epidemic: Is the disease spreading by water, air, human contact, fleas, lice, mosquitoes, flies, or some combination of methods? What percent of the population is dying? Staying inside your home in this situation would probably be the best solution unless the virus is being spread through the air or by insects. If that is the case and you are living in a heavily populated area then how long will it take the virus to eventually make its way into your air supply or home? If you had a gas mask or face filters then you might be able to escape to a remote region of a national forest where the virus will have a smaller chance of reaching and infecting you.

Martial Law: Why was it implemented? What are the restrictions? And do you really want to live in a heavily populated area that is being policed by the military and where you could be executed by anyone in the military for any reason at any time without any type of trial?

Political or Religious Persecution: What if all registered Republicans are suddenly declared to be enemies of the state? Or all Democrats? Or all Protestants or Catholics or Muslins? Some of you may be laughing right now and saying this is impossible and it could never happen in this country. I truly hope you are right. But what if you are wrong? What if you suddenly heard on the news that you are now a member of a group of people that has been identified as being enemies of the state? What would be your plan for survival? If you remain where you currently live it would only result in your immediate arrest, trial, and either imprisonment or execution. During World War II in Germany there were millions of Jews, Christians, and several other groups of individuals who learned this lesson the hard way. And Germany is not an isolated example. This has happened many, many times in many different places during the history of our world.

None of these things are pleasant to think about but the above threats are real. If any one of them should occur where you now live then you may need to evacuate your home or apartment very quickly in order to have any chance for long-term survival.

How to quickly and efficiently evacuate your home or apartment is not something most people take the time to think about. However, over the past few years the increasing number of families that have had to quickly evacuate their homes is extraordinary. Entire families and communities have been uprooted and moved to another area and in many cases they will never be able to return to their homes or to the life they once knew. Hurricanes, flooding, and forest fires have resulted in the loss of billions of dollars worth of possessions and have claimed an unknown number of lives. Devastating winter weather has crippled many areas and left hundreds of thousands of homes without electricity or heat in the middle of winter and forced people to seek asylum and basic survival in community shelters, schools and churches.

Flash floods and forest fires happen so quickly that people do not have the time to carefully consider what they should take with them. Later when they return and find their home and possessions reduced to cinders, or ruined from water damage, they wished they'd had more time to think about their choices before they were forced to evacuate.

Therefore, before a disaster strikes, prudent individuals will make a simple list of the most important things to salvage in the event of a disaster. Later, if a disaster should force them to evacuate their home then they can consult their list and quickly execute their plan and collect and save their most important possessions. They could salvage the things they would need to survive under difficult circumstances, and things that would make their transition to a different life style not only possible but also a little easier for their entire family.

If you survive a disaster then you can start over. If you have a plan, starting over will not be as difficult as someone who evacuates without a plan. Unfortunately some of the people who survive without a plan will eventually resort to robbing and/or killing. Predators do not discriminate and they will prey on one another as well as on the helpless. Human predators are usually a self-correcting problem during a disaster, if the disaster lasts long enough.

If you must evacuate your home you should have carefully considered ahead of time where you will go. Your destination should not be a last minute decision because your choice of a destination is as important as carefully selecting which items to take with you.

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rachel
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02/07/2010 12:13 PM
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Re: During a Disaster Event Should You Stay at Home or Leave?
not today ok its superbowl day! lo;l
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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02/07/2010 12:14 PM
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lot's of good reading at grandpappy's


How to Effectively Evacuate a Big City Without a Car
[link to grandpappy.info]

An Emergency Evacuation List
[link to grandpappy.info]

How to Find Water and
How to Make Water Safe to Drink
[link to grandpappy.info]
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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not today ok its superbowl day! lo;l
 Quoting: rachel 529732

i don't watch it, but you go ahead, umkay
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I'm going to stay at home if possible. I have everything I need right here. hf
You have one life. Live it.
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02/07/2010 12:16 PM
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I'm going to stay at home if possible. I have everything I need right here. hf
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Me too.
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And Shift along the Axis
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Political or Religious Persecution: What if all registered Republicans are suddenly declared to be enemies of the state? Or all Democrats?


LOL Well that would be interesting.
Ishtahota
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02/07/2010 12:24 PM
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Great post OP..

..however, it is my expierence that the folks here are a lot of talk. I don't believe that they live by the convictions that they precieve to show online.

How many would even Meet-up with like-minded folks to take the first step in being prepared for a larger event and a longer term hold out? My answer, very few...

...how do I know?...I have tried to meet up with some of the more Voiced folks here. Most are just role playing without any real interest in realy facing their demons up front. Perhaps they are scared of either being right or even being wrong, dunno.

Tanks for the links.
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02/07/2010 12:27 PM
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Depending on what hits I plan to semi ride it out here. Now if TSHTF big time I am out of here fast. I am 6 hours away from the windy city and 2 hours away from St Louis still dangerously close for this kid anyway ya slice it.
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Great post OP..

..however, it is my expierence that the folks here are a lot of talk. I don't believe that they live by the convictions that they precieve to show online.

How many would even Meet-up with like-minded folks to take the first step in being prepared for a larger event and a longer term hold out? My answer, very few...

...how do I know?...I have tried to meet up with some of the more Voiced folks here. Most are just role playing without any real interest in realy facing their demons up front. Perhaps they are scared of either being right or even being wrong, dunno.

Tanks for the links.
 Quoting: Ishtahota 874794

there are so many fakes here that are really just toying with people, better to make plans with real life friends and family

your welcome, i thought that was an excellent site, could not stop reading all his articles...never know, might need some of that knowledge sometime
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02/07/2010 01:22 PM
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this is a good thing to think about too, there might be better ones on the subject out there

Ishtahota
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So true...

...here is a series of 140 youtube shows from someone that DOES believe what he knows. It is called 'Eat The Weeds' and he takes 10 minutes to tell you what you can eat in your area and how to eat them.

Kudzu?...realy?...yep and just about anything else.

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02/07/2010 01:25 PM
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The Clash




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"Misunderestimating is only 5/4 th's of the problem"!

"Some choose to hear, few decide to listen".

"Question what you know and know why you question".

"GLP will never be the sane...uhhh...same".

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02/07/2010 01:42 PM
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So true...

...here is a series of 140 youtube shows from someone that DOES believe what he knows. It is called 'Eat The Weeds' and he takes 10 minutes to tell you what you can eat in your area and how to eat them.

Kudzu?...realy?...yep and just about anything else.


 Quoting: Ishtahota 874794


Not me....after watching Into the Wild, no F'ing way. I'll munch on the known berries and such, but that's about it. Maybe some dandelion tea or wild rutabaga, but that's about as exotic I'll get.
I'm getting all my needs canned and stored...and I plan to order some freeze dried food, about a 6 month supply for back up, very soon.
I guess I am fortunate that I live in a small town in the north country, in very tight knit community. I don't have to worry about the crazies and mobs running amok.

Very Good Thread, thanks for the addition info.....

Last Edited by ufoptics on 02/07/2010 01:44 PM
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02/07/2010 01:45 PM
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It depends on the type of disaster and the overall situation.
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02/07/2010 01:53 PM

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Survival Rule #1: Do Not become a refugee.

Survival Rule #2: See rule #1.

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Do or do not. There is no try.

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02/07/2010 01:58 PM
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true doom, real 24 carat doom, you won't have time to THINK, just do.

it's gonna be tectonic, and it's gonna affect everyone

it'll involve mega tsunami, eqs, volcanic eruptions.

luck will play a huge part and MOST of us will not make it.

have fun.

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