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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 884759 Canada 02/07/2010 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. Maybe they didn't chisel, maybe they used a water pressure cutting tool. Quoting: RhianLOL -- pressure cutting tools necessitate electricity, yet, they still wrote like cavemen. Fawk, you really are smart. We should all concede to the moronic entity that rules your brain. (By the way, clocks were a direct modification of the sun dial) Quoting: RhianOkay, get a an education |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 848712 Canada 02/07/2010 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. If you'd read Zecharia Sitchin You would know the Jewish writings including the old testament is thousands of years late in telling stories like the flood. The Jews twisted things around to suit their moral and political purposes, In the original story of Caen and Abel for instance, the God's favored the agriculturalist not the herder. Too bad your religion has got in the way of your search for truth. Just another example of religious nuts trying to re-write history to serve their superstitions. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 884759The Sumerian tablets are the fraud, if these Gods were highly intellectuals they would have possessed and would have afforded the simple technology (knowledge) of paper and ink to the inhabitants of the earth in so that they would be gloried by writing about them and keeping a log of their visits and laws. OP, you are a moron!!! Which lasts longer? A story depicted in stone or written with ink on paper? After 6,000 years your damn ink and paper would no longer exist!! As I said OP, you are a moron!! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 884759 Canada 02/07/2010 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. OP, you are a moron!!! Which lasts longer? A story depicted in stone or written with ink on paper? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 848712After 6,000 years your damn ink and paper would no longer exist!! As I said OP, you are a moron!! Ha,Ha,Ha, filing these stone documents was made easier when broken into pieces, lol, you could file them in little cachet at town hall or on the move like when traveling on carriages, or on boats. Makes you wonder why the humans of the 1400's,15,16,17,18 gave up stone documentation. |
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someguy User ID: 878476 United States 02/07/2010 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. They should have an IQ standard in here. This is the greatest untold story in human history and you guys are arguing over paper/stone...my god.... |
yyeesss User ID: 154557 United States 02/07/2010 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. So OP, whatchoogunnadoo now that your thread is all dead, huh? 1-Go to store 2-Buy some CLAY putty - nahh, just use mud 3-Apply LOTS of it to that leaking FAIL boat you got goin' 4-Fix it up, go sailing! Only use stars and sun to navigate 5-Look directly into the sun if you get lost - trust me |
anonymous coward User ID: 885340 Australia 02/08/2010 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. wow...are you really hung up on the stone/paper thing?..REALLY???....Forget that they tell amazing tales 5 to 6 THOUSAND years old....and thats when they were written down! To nit pick over that is unreal.....forget that they are telling our true history from the original civ., tales of Gods that came down and taught mankind all we know, and stayed here and mingled with us...made us who we are. Quoting: someguy 878476They should have an IQ standard in here. This is the greatest untold story in human history and you guys are arguing over paper/stone...my god.... Hahahaha!! I think OP has the highest IQ on this thread.Op could be the only one left if they set a standard. OP - |
nomuse (NLI) User ID: 870211 United States 02/08/2010 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. These tablets are a farce. Quoting: King of the Fools 884759You can't learn how to print the alphabets by chiseling a stone, lol, or using a stylus on wet clay, the student would either apply too much presure or not enough resulting unreadable scripts. Those who etched their sketch in stone learned the art of writing using ink and paper first. The learning practice of writing is painstakingly long, like when you first learned in grade school whereby hundreds of sheets of paper were disposed in the effort to learn how to properly structure the letters, and this could only have been attained with ink and paper. You could have never learn how to compose the letters and form words by any other means. The Tablets of Sumeria are a deceptive ploy by the satans passed down to the ruling class so we can wander as they wander, they, them who from Heaven came and for whom the gloom of darkness has been reserved forever. (Book of Jude) Retarded. That's exactly what clay tablets were for! The clay remained plastic and the student (or scribe) could smooth out the surface over and over again. Only rarely was a bit of writing considered important enough to save...that's when they'd bake the tablet, hardening the clay. Papyrus/scraped sheepskin was roughly contemporaneous, but vastly more expensive to prepare. And it was permanent...even mistakes were difficult to repair. No, you've traveled down a flawless logical path but you started with a flawed assumption. Clay is superior for learning to write. And for the kind of temporary writing merchants needed. |
nomuse (NLI) User ID: 870211 United States 02/08/2010 02:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. You think people ventured into the big blue ocean without maps? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 884759It worked for the Polynesians, Micronesians, Melanesians, Indo-Australians, etc. The had maps and a compass, or they would be lost, like you are! No. Incredible voyages were made across the Pacific without a compass. They used star sightings, currents, and the trade winds to navigate by. The compass was a relatively late invention to sea travel. But for hundreds of years, sea travel was almost never open ocean travel. They shadowed coastlines. Instead of compasses, they had maps of coastal landmarks (often not even drawn to scale). Of course proper deep ocean navigation needed a tool even more essential than the compass. It needed the clock. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 838091 Canada 02/08/2010 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. These tablets are a farce. Quoting: King of the Fools 884759You can't learn how to print the alphabets by chiseling a stone, lol, or using a stylus on wet clay, the student would either apply too much presure or not enough resulting unreadable scripts. Those who etched their sketch in stone learned the art of writing using ink and paper first. The learning practice of writing is painstakingly long, like when you first learned in grade school whereby hundreds of sheets of paper were disposed in the effort to learn how to properly structure the letters, and this could only have been attained with ink and paper. You could have never learn how to compose the letters and form words by any other means. The Tablets of Sumeria are a deceptive ploy by the satans passed down to the ruling class so we can wander as they wander, they, them who from Heaven came and for whom the gloom of darkness has been reserved forever. (Book of Jude) I give you and your theory an "E" grade for epic fail m ( also applicable as "E" for "effort"....wrong, wrong, wrong!! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 750658 United States 02/08/2010 03:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. These tablets are a farce. Quoting: King of the Fools 884759You can't learn how to print the alphabets by chiseling a stone, lol, or using a stylus on wet clay, the student would either apply too much presure or not enough resulting unreadable scripts. Those who etched their sketch in stone learned the art of writing using ink and paper first. The learning practice of writing is painstakingly long, like when you first learned in grade school whereby hundreds of sheets of paper were disposed in the effort to learn how to properly structure the letters, and this could only have been attained with ink and paper. You could have never learn how to compose the letters and form words by any other means. The Tablets of Sumeria are a deceptive ploy by the satans passed down to the ruling class so we can wander as they wander, they, them who from Heaven came and for whom the gloom of darkness has been reserved forever. (Book of Jude) let's see. them tablets are 3500 years old. ya think just maybe that they could have used paper and some type of ink but it just couldn't last the 3500 years for us to find it? Or maybe those stone cylinders were part of a printing process and they were making books out of paper and ink and those books disintegrated over time. I swear people like you are worse than the momma of bobby bouche in the water boy. everything is the devil. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 884796 Portugal 02/08/2010 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. Btw, I don't know if someone has brought this already, but if the OP is talking about Sumerian texts, then he probably don't know what kind of writing they actually used. Cuneiform writing was done by using a reed stylus to mark the clay. It was the most logical way of inscribing in clay, no doubt. Read this OP. (not really hoping he does and understands the point but...) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 885355 Canada 02/08/2010 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. I give you and your theory an "E" grade for epic fail m ( also applicable as "E" for "effort"....wrong, wrong, wrong!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 838091The Sumerian tablets are the EPIC FAIL, if these Gods were highly intellectuals they would have possessed and would have afforded the simple technology (knowledge) of paper and ink to the inhabitants of the earth in so that they would be gloried by writing about them and keeping a log of their visits and laws. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 885355 Canada 02/08/2010 03:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. Incredible voyages were made across the Pacific without a compass. They used star sightings, currents, and the trade winds to navigate by. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211The compass was a relatively late invention to sea travel. But for hundreds of years, sea travel was almost never open ocean travel. They shadowed coastlines. Instead of compasses, they had maps of coastal landmarks (often not even drawn to scale). Of course proper deep ocean navigation needed a tool even more essential than the compass. It needed the clock. Ink and paper was around when the first boat was cast into the sea. You think people ventured into the big blue ocean without maps? -- You think they brought along stone tablets for maps? -- You think they drew the landscape on clay tablets as the sailed to and fro? Boats were around before the Sumerians allegedly learned the Godlike ways of writing, ha,ha,ha! -- Thereby ink and paper beat these gods from another planet who arrived on a space ship with stone tablets for mapping coordinates while other parts of the World men were sailing the oceans with paper maps. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 885355 Canada 02/08/2010 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. Btw, I don't know if someone has brought this already, but if the OP is talking about Sumerian texts, then he probably don't know what kind of writing they actually used. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 884796Cuneiform writing was done by using a reed stylus to mark the clay. It was the most logical way of inscribing in clay, no doubt. Read this OP. (not really hoping he does and understands the point but...) For writing to have been conceived and developed it was because it served a much needed purpose. People didn't learn the art of writing for the fun of it, or for circle making on clay tablets. Laws were written for public viewing, regulations, conduct, new laws, revised laws, court rulings, news from across, etc, all these serve and could only be made possible with paper and ink, not on clay tablets standing at the town hall. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 885355 Canada 02/08/2010 03:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. That's exactly what clay tablets were for! The clay remained plastic and the student (or scribe) could smooth out the surface over and over again. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211Only rarely was a bit of writing considered important enough to save...that's when they'd bake the tablet, hardening the clay. You can't learn how to print the alphabets using a stylus on wet clay, you would either apply too much pressure or not enough resulting unreadable scripts. The learning practice of writing is painstakingly long, like when you first learned in grade school whereby hundreds of sheets of paper were disposed in the effort to learn how to properly structure the letters, and this could only have been attained with ink and paper. You could have never learn how to compose the letters and form words by any other means. Papyrus/scraped sheepskin was roughly contemporaneous, but vastly more expensive to prepare. And it was permanent...even mistakes were difficult to repair. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211They used paper. Making forms for the Tablets was not a breeze, not to mention mixing the new and improved lighter clay those Gods brought to them and then have the Tablets baked in hot ovens. Expensive, and if dropped, that was it. Completely foolish to even consider clay tablet writing were ever used and have any merits, and that those who lived in the past were as dumb as you. No, you've traveled down a flawless logical path but you started with a flawed assumption. Clay is superior for learning to write. And for the kind of temporary writing merchants needed. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211LOL -- you're a nutjob -- well done. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 885355 Canada 02/08/2010 03:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. let's see. them tablets are 3500 years old. ya think just maybe that they could have used paper and some type of ink but it just couldn't last the 3500 years for us to find it? Or maybe those stone cylinders were part of a printing process and they were making books out of paper and ink and those books disintegrated over time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750658Dude, even in those days they knew how to make iron, you don't make clay tablets for printing, it chips and breaks, you use iron molds which they didn't because they didn't need to print so many books. I swear people like you are worse than the momma of bobby bouche in the water boy. everything is the devil. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 750658I am the biggest Hemorrhoid on this forum, and I am proud of that, but you will miss me when I'm gone. |
nomuse (NLI) User ID: 870211 United States 02/08/2010 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. You can't learn how to print the alphabets using a stylus on wet clay, you would either apply too much pressure or not enough resulting unreadable scripts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 885355You can't learn to write with a pencil...either you apply too much pressure and snap the tip (and gouge the paper) or not enough meaning you can't control the pencil and just get scribbles. You can't learn how to mark calligraphy with a brush...either you apply too much pressure and mash up the tip, or too little and it doesn't even touch the paper. You can't learn how to type...either you apply too much pressure and bend the keys, or too little to activate the mechanism. You can't learn to speak...either you try to push too much air through your mouth and get nothing but a roaring sound, or too little and it is just a voiceless whisper. Punisher is such a loon. |
nomuse (NLI) User ID: 870211 United States 02/08/2010 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. They used paper. Making forms for the Tablets was not a breeze Quoting: Anonymous Coward 885355Clay. You scrape it off a river bank. Or use it right there by the water. Seriously, Punisher...flattening out a lump of clay is HARD? You must have skipped preschool. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 885572 Canada 02/08/2010 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. If you would become the IMAGE of your CREATOR -- you would rule this earth, GOD would allow everyone like you to overthrow those in Power. Book of Genesis ~ First Chapter [27] -- So GOD created man in his own image, in the image of GOD created he him; male and female created he them. [28] -- And GOD blessed them, and GOD said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. ---------- replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion A better understanding is found in the Covenant of GOD Book of Enoch Chapter 31 1 -- Adam has life on earth, and I created a garden in Eden in the east, that he should observe the testament and keep the command. 2 -- I made the heavens open to him, that he should see the angels singing the song of victory, and the gloomless light. 3 -- And he was continuously in paradise, and the devil understood that I wanted to create another world, because Adam was lord on earth, to rule and control it. ---------- Adam was lord on earth, to rule and control it. Adam was lord on earth, to rule and control it. The more try, the easier the task. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 885572 Canada 02/08/2010 05:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. You can't learn to write with a pencil...either you apply too much pressure and snap the tip (and gouge the paper) or not enough meaning you can't control the pencil and just get scribbles. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211LOL -- schools should all adopt clay tablets for children to learn how to write, ha,ha,ha, you'll never occupy an educational administrative position, so don't quit your day job. You can't learn how to mark calligraphy with a brush...either you apply too much pressure and mash up the tip, or too little and it doesn't even touch the paper. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211Very true, and a good point. Not everyone can paint, or draw, You can't learn how to type...either you apply too much pressure and bend the keys, or too little to activate the mechanism. Quoting: nomuse (NLI) 870211You can't learn to speak...either you try to push too much air through your mouth and get nothing but a roaring sound, or too little and it is just a voiceless whisper. Punisher is such a loon. LOL -- first you profess in science and its theories of creation, and only when your false gods are insulted do you quickly come to their rescue and in doing so you openly admit that the Sumerians are the creators of our World and you throw the Big Bang and its science right out the window. |
nomuse (NLI) User ID: 870211 United States 02/08/2010 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. Maybe they didn't chisel, maybe they used a water pressure cutting tool. Quoting: Rhian(By the way, clocks were a direct modification of the sun dial) So close and yet so far. The reason commercial ocean navigation needed the marine chronometer was exactly because a sundial gives the accurate solar time.....for it's longitude! Which is to say, if you can sight the sun, or a star, and you know exactly what time it is, you can then determine where you are from East to West (your position from North to South only requires finding how high the Sun gets at it's highest point, since that height will be the same along the entire line of latitude.) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 876682 United States 02/08/2010 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. Maybe the Sumerians did write with ink and paper as well, but only the inscribed clay trablets survived til the present. |
Einsteins' Wife User ID: 433811 New Zealand 02/08/2010 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. Incredible voyages were made across the Pacific without a compass. They used star sightings, currents, and the trade winds to navigate by. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 885355The compass was a relatively late invention to sea travel. But for hundreds of years, sea travel was almost never open ocean travel. They shadowed coastlines. Instead of compasses, they had maps of coastal landmarks (often not even drawn to scale). Of course proper deep ocean navigation needed a tool even more essential than the compass. It needed the clock. Ink and paper was around when the first boat was cast into the sea. You think people ventured into the big blue ocean without maps? -- You think they brought along stone tablets for maps? -- You think they drew the landscape on clay tablets as the sailed to and fro? Boats were around before the Sumerians allegedly learned the Godlike ways of writing, ha,ha,ha! -- Thereby ink and paper beat these gods from another planet who arrived on a space ship with stone tablets for mapping coordinates while other parts of the World men were sailing the oceans with paper maps. Is it just me or has there been a marked rise in the level of sheer stupidity and illogic on this forum lately? |
czygyny User ID: 816754 United States 02/08/2010 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. Is it just me or has there been a marked rise in the level of sheer stupidity and illogic on this forum lately? Quoting: Einsteins' Wife 433811I think it is troll mating-season, or something. Maybe with a hint of shill-showers falling. I've noticed an uptick in just plain nonsense. Kletos, Eklektos & Pistos |
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Sir.Kalin User ID: 885926 United States 02/08/2010 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Sumerian story written on clay tablets is UNNATURAL -- writing could only be developed through ink and paper. Is it just me or has there been a marked rise in the level of sheer stupidity and illogic on this forum lately? Its just you. :LordKayleSig4: - "Your best investment is ammo, because it's going to weird quickly." - AC 1196210 - "Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson's Personal Seal |