Actually most on Earth are demons in hell

You're right.

Go see www.angelfall.com

not exactly correct....

but you do make a good point....

humans on earth have an opportunity to release themselves from sensual bondage....

but most don`t even realize they are slaves.....

Yes.

I am right to those who known this is right.
But I am wrong to those, who serve lie and illusions.

Watch how fast the religious lunatics will answer soon,
drugged with their scriptures, acting nothing less or more
as the old farizeen who killed wonderfull Teachers, just
by scriptures they wrote on their own.

Earth, currently such a dark place.
But it can be transformed to a Heaven.

That's the purpose of incarnation on Earth.
To be in/ to transfor this to Heaven,
not to live in a Hell.

When people do free themselves and act differently, they become Enlighted,
even full of Love and One with the Supreme,
natural force in Multiverse: Love.

May the Phoenix arise from the dust,
May all become Angels of Love.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

Last Edited by VVizz on 02/07/2010 10:00 PM

Sensual bondage.

The Supreme Energy made sensual pleasure to enjoy it.

It is a lie and illusion to believe,
You may not enjoy sensuality, sexuality, pleasure.

That's a teaching of monks, those who think You achieve
Enlightment by pushing away the natural sources of
pleasure, enjoy.

So finally You do have vinaigre, but no sweet.

But most are slaves, indeed, slaves of their own
believes, as the belief they are not worth to be happy,
not worth to enjoy. As most do believe they need to be
used as slaves.

You only need to say: NO to control of others. As NO
to false teachings who bring only pleasure and joy to the rich, the wealthy and the powerfull, but slavery to the common man.

All the Best,

VVizz of Ur

yes, I agree. In a certain sense, we are the beasts, we are the demons.

We are the Beast...

but we have the opportunity to rise to spirituality and freedom.

yes, I agree. In a certain sense, we are the demons....We are the Beast...

but we have the opportunity to rise to spirituality

Last Edited by IsAnyThingTrue on 02/07/2010 10:15 PM

THE GNOSTICS.....knew and know what is going on.

This is the plane of deception,prison planet earth.

VVizz, thank you. There are some intelligent people on this forum. Power for you VVizz.

VVizz,

From my perspective Reincarnation Process has been Corrupted on all LEVEL(s) .....!

There is NO MORE SOUL LEARNING HERE AnyWay...!

So YES Earth surface is the Extended of what you Have in Tartarus with all the 10 Kingdom OR Corporation down THERE...!

AnyWay...!



Yolgnu.

In a way, but there are also discarnate entities
that influence humanity to be this way. we're not demons,
but the "demon" immature souls that inhabit the lower spaces have near complete control over our thoughts, desires, and even religions. They are the reason we are this way.

Part of the lesson of being here is to learn how to sense these creatures and learn how to overcome their control and know and act on what is truly right. It'll take a few runs through the lower levels of consciousness or "Hell" but we'll get it right. And eventually these unseen "demon" immature souls that cause this mess will have to go through the same challenges they put us through.
whether they like it or not.

I totally agree!

yes, we are the power source for demons. they can only exist through us, that is, if we allow them to prey on us. Castaneda in his discourses with Don Juan used to call them the "Mind Flyers"

here is some concept art of mind flayers: [link to www.iwozhere.com]

Last Edited by gus. on 02/07/2010 10:35 PM

Thanks, vvizz, I was struggling with the problems in the world tonight, I needed to hear that. It's the truth.

YO!

How are you?

Raz ...!

I am fine here but they manage to BREAK my Harmonic Protector from Don lolol it almost explode on me lololol

A chance I got some others here :o)

Nice to see you around ...!

Yolgnu.

Somebody stole my harmonic protector man.

Are "they" still giving you and your fam. problems?

Always nice to see you friend.

Jacques, update your email addy man.

OUps no more harmonic protector ok ....! lol

From time to time they always HIT ...!

But it always because I put myself in some strange situation lolol

And Same MAIL RAZ [email protected]

Yolgnu.

So you're a Demon. Why should I believe a Demon?

Get lost. Loser

Agrred entirely.
Lucifer = the human race aka "fallen angels."
Who naturally attract other, equally disgusting, entities.
The good news is, eventually, these horrible creatures will realise who they were and are, and reurn to a state of grace.
I for one can hardly wait.

Same here man. Check messages.

:)

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Last Edited by The Reincarnated One on 02/07/2010 11:10 PM

Cuz u're one too, and you kno demons have different classes as well and exactly like what happens in the 'oh so eternal and sweet realm of the angels', each is commanded by a higher class. It all comes to one thing though. An urge for superiority lies in everyone. And few people are man enough to admit it, be themselves. And they gotta suffer more?? So be it, if it must, but things must be proven... But then, we are demons after all... And the bible lies in hell too!!! It should not be kept hidden anymore!!

Last Edited by The Reincarnated One on 02/07/2010 11:13 PM

I do hope you'll checkout that website. Mind blowing stuff there that reveals who we are and why we're really here. Very much along the lines of what you're suggesting and its based on numeric codes in the Bible.

There's loads of scriptures--Jesus referring to humans as "evil" in Matt 7:11. In Ephesians 2:1 we see exactly what our natural state is (from the Amplified translation that gives the fullness of the Greek language which is why you'll see additionally words) :

"And you He made alive when you were dead (slain) by your trespasses and sins in which at one time you walked habitually. You were following the course and fashion of this world (were under the sway of the tendency of this present age), following the prince of the power of the air. You were obedient to and under the control of the demon spirit that still constantly works in the sons of disobedience (the careless, rebellious, and the unbelieving, who go against the purposes of God.)

There's loads of other passages that tell us who we really are, we just refuse to see it. Jesus' gift of Himself is for our redemption. Apart from Him, we are FALLEN, EVIL and in open rebellion toward God.

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Its all about perception.

May the Great Spirit Bless you

Take Care
Tann

I'm no demon, I'm creation. Man rules the earth, demons in darkness, angels in Heaven, in that order. Anyone who says otherwise (OP + You) are possessed and misleading others to believe what isn't and what could never be.

enjoyment becomes bondage when people become obsessed....

You want to see some real demons go to [link to blog.sargel18.com]
spend some time there and learn.........