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Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?

 
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Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
I've been listening to some free downloads of his Project Camelot interviews, and I've got to say, he sounds legit. Frightening stuff.

I used the search tool here, and didn't really find anyone prove or disprove his claims. Anyone know?
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
Anyone?
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02/09/2010 11:33 AM
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If they were true he wouldn't have lived long enough to tell his stories.
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02/09/2010 11:39 AM
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
Hoax.
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
If they were true he wouldn't have lived long enough to tell his stories.
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I thought the same thing. Still, if his background/family history is what he claims, the proper "permission" to suicide him might not have been granted.

He's been shamed, exiled, lost a lot of his wealth, etc. Also, I've read that the Illuminati don't care a great deal about "exposure" because they rely on people not believe the messengers anyway. I don't know.......
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
Hoax.
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How did you come to this conclusion?
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
Hoax.



How did you come to this conclusion?
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By watching hours of his footage, looking at his body language, his appearance, his bearing... he is not a man who has come from a background of wealth and refinement.
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
By watching hours of his footage, looking at his body language, his appearance, his bearing... he is not a man who has come from a background of wealth and refinement.
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I haven't seen any videos of him yet, so I will concede to your visual analysis of him. Still, and not to seem rude at all, I don't know if this could be considered "proof" that he is a hoax. I personally wouldn't know what a man who has come from a background of wealth and refinement generally looks or acts like exactly.

Has anyone checked his background personally, or found obvious contradictions to his claims? I freaked out when he said Obama would likely get elected because he was part of the Prince Hall Lodge, and this interview was before the elections were even held. He also seems very thorough with his details, doesn't hesitate at all to answer questions, and obviously get quite emotional and upset when he gets talking about sensitive subjects.
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02/09/2010 12:03 PM
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If they were true he wouldn't have lived long enough to tell his stories.
 Quoting: SheldonCooper

No doubt he is a satanist but that guy knows nothing you can't find yourself on the web.

He would be dead a long time ago if he really was in the inner circle of the illuminati.
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02/09/2010 12:05 PM
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Utter truthers are killed. Disinformationists are allowed to live.
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
No doubt he is a satanist but that guy knows nothing you can't find yourself on the web.

He would be dead a long time ago if he really was in the inner circle of the illuminati.
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I see your point, but what is his motivation then? Is he just a crackpot Italian guy who reads a lot of Illuminati material on the internet, who then created an extremely intricate character so that he can talk to conspiracy hosts about his fictional stories? Or was/is he involved with "them" to spread disinformation?
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
By watching hours of his footage, looking at his body language, his appearance, his bearing... he is not a man who has come from a background of wealth and refinement.



I haven't seen any videos of him yet, so I will concede to your visual analysis of him. Still, and not to seem rude at all, I don't know if this could be considered "proof" that he is a hoax. I personally wouldn't know what a man who has come from a background of wealth and refinement generally looks or acts like exactly.

Has anyone checked his background personally, or found obvious contradictions to his claims? I freaked out when he said Obama would likely get elected because he was part of the Prince Hall Lodge, and this interview was before the elections were even held. He also seems very thorough with his details, doesn't hesitate at all to answer questions, and obviously get quite emotional and upset when he gets talking about sensitive subjects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 746732


It's just my opinion of course.
I just don't believe him... I could be totally wrong.
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
Utter truthers are killed. Disinformationists are allowed to live.
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Please pardon my suggestion, but who can really say that without being associated with an organization that makes such decisions? Presuming to know the actions of these people doesn't make it so. I think many other factors could come into play in a situation like this.
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
It's just my opinion of course.
I just don't believe him... I could be totally wrong.
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He very well could be. I appreciate your input. It's probably not something that could be easily verified.
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
Utter truthers are killed. Disinformationists are allowed to live.



Please pardon my suggestion, but who can really say that without being associated with an organization that makes such decisions? Presuming to know the actions of these people doesn't make it so. I think many other factors could come into play in a situation like this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 746732

They do not kill people who are mixing truth with false, because the false aspect of what they are saying totally discredits the rest, even if it means throwing out the truth. Utter truthers are killed because there is no thing to discredit them and are believed to be credible, and thus are silenced.
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
It's just my opinion of course.
I just don't believe him... I could be totally wrong.



He very well could be. I appreciate your input. It's probably not something that could be easily verified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 746732


I've done some basic searches along the lies of 'Zagami exposed' etc... but oddly enough any exposition of him tends to claim he is really working for this group or that group or is a vatican disinfo agent etc etc... no results saying he is just an Italian plumber with a large collection of conspiracy books.
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
How in this last years so many "secret" information "leaked"?
Cause they want we "know". Some believe in cinema, other in TV media, but majority praise internet as new source of "confidentiality & secret reveling".

It is nothing more then another distraction platform.
another "distraction ball" thrown at people to play with.


judging by his appearance....it seams more probably that Leo Zagami have a Magic tricks performance show in some LA Hotel then wandering around in Camelot Project sharing "confidential" information.

come on people, don't you have it already enough?

it is all JOKE. - They will give us all possible toys so we indefinitely play and NEVER connect with our inter truth and discover our own power.
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
How in this last years so many "secret" information "leaked"?
Cause they want we "know". Some believe in cinema, other in TV media, but majority praise internet as new source of "confidentiality & secret reveling".

It is nothing more then another distraction platform.
another "distraction ball" thrown at people to play with.


judging by his appearance....it seams more probably that Leo Zagami have a Magic tricks performance show in some LA Hotel then wandering around in Camelot Project sharing "confidential" information.

come on people, don't you have it already enough?

it is all JOKE. - They will give us all possible toys so we indefinitely play and NEVER connect with our inter truth and discover our own power.
 Quoting: xyz



okay?!.....a simple yes or no would have sufficed...
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
I think he actually was involved in the groups he claims, and knows some things, but whether anything else he says is the truth or not is anyones guess.

Last Edited by Stray Bullet on 02/09/2010 05:16 PM
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Re: Does anyone know if Leo Zagami is genuine or a hoax?
I think he actually was involved in the groups he claims, and knows some things, but whether anything else he says is the truth or not is anyones guess.
 Quoting: Risen



Good point. Thanks. Seems like nobody really knows one way or the other. I may have to do my own investigation of him.

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