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March 26, 2012
Jim Self
The Shift: Fourth Dimension Consciousness
March, 2012
Regina Meredith: It’s been said in many spiritual traditions that the human being is born with an open connection to our soul, with remembrances from our deep past. Over time, however, we lose that direct connection through societal and parental programming and expectations. We slowly begin to conform. Our dreams begin to close down and we no longer remember where we go at night, when the spirit leaves the body to refresh itself, gain knowledge and connect with other souls. Jim Self has had the unique benefit of never shutting down. Every night he goes to his soul’s home place and meets with beings and ascended masters who have shown him now life in the cosmos works, including what this great shift means in very real terms. This is a fascinating story.
Regina Meredith: Jim, thank you for driving all the way up to Sedona to meet us. I think everybody resonates really well in these beautiful red rocks.
Jim Self: Oh, yes. Sedona is a great place to be.
Regina Meredith: It is, indeed. And, you’ve had an interesting path because on one hand you’re a very intelligent, grounded, practical person that started a life in politics at a very young age.
Jim Self: Yes.
Regina Meredith: Pretty amazing.
Jim Self: Yes, it was.
Regina Meredith: City council.
Jim Self: San Jose.
Regina Meredith: San Jose, at 26.
Jim Self: Right.
Regina Meredith: How did anyone trust you to vote you into office at that age?
Jim Self: Well, if you know about San Jose; San Jose used to be the third richest agricultural valley in the world, and then they built houses over it. And when I started playing in the politics side of it, we had triple sessions in schools. And, so, people would buy this wonderful house in this nice orchard and they’d sell the (correction) I mean get into the house, and all of a sudden a new house would be next door and across the street. It was a ridiculous thing. So, it was a very nice transition to be able to move from the old guard, who ran everything, to a whole new grouping of people coming in, and it was a nice fit.
Regina Meredith: Still, there was something that you were exuding that allowed this to happen, and let’s back into that a little bit, because anyone watching you right now, you have an unusual amount of light coming out of your eyes. Granted, you have lights on you, but even when the lights weren’t on you, you have a lot of light coming out of your eyes. So, let’s talk about dreamtime and who you really are.
Jim Self: Well, you know, one of the things that happens when people come into a body, born into a body; you know everything. That soft spot on the top of your head, that’s the connection to the Creator; you’re still connected. And then you begin to listen to Mom and Dad, preacher, minister, teacher, and you say OK, I’m the little one; they’re the big ones and I’m going to do what they say. And, you begin to shut that down. Also, people are very connected. They’re clairvoyant, they’re clairsentient; they’re clairaudient. They have a very full connection to themselves and to the world around them, and then we shut that down to do what the big ones say to do. And, in a way, I never shut that down. And it’s an awkward place because people listening are very sensitive. You know one of the things that happens to the people who don’t shut that down is they begin to be hiders in life. They are very sensitive to the energy and to the feelings and the emotions of other people. And, so, that gets to be very challenging for a lot of people. For me, it didn’t seem to affect me as much. And the path I’m on just allowed me to continue to walk through that. And then things like city council in San Jose, and building corporations and the many other things that I’ve been able to do, they were just learning points along the way to begin to understand this space that I get to play in, now.
Regina Meredith: And that’s really what life is, if we all understood it that way. It’s all just an experiment, a playground, whatever you want to call it.
Jim Self: Very much.
Regina Meredith: So, you’ve always known that. So, you approached each of these things with a type of boldness the average individual might have lost because of all the other voices in their heads that suppress the boldness that we are innately.
Jim Self: Well, I would like to say yes, but I have had my own stuff, you know, in life. Everybody’s got their stuff. And, so, to a great extent see you’re always on your path. That path is something that’s very predetermined by you. Usually, when I say that people jump up and go, “What about free will?” Well, it fits very well. That path that’s you walk; you created it to have all of these experiences in your life. The free will piece is how do you choose to experience your path? And, when you start to recognize that you choose; there’s no victims, you either turn away from your path, or you stay on your path, you begin to look at what you want.
There is always a boldness in it, but sometimes people get knocked down because “you’re not OK,” the world around you says.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: And, we believe that to some plus or minus extent. And, so, in my reality I believed it. You know people said, “You’re not OK.”
Regina Meredith: You bought into it, too?
Jim Self: Of course. Everybody buys into it.
Regina Meredith: Yeah.
Jim Self: But, it’s beginning to recognize that you can’t be “not OK.” See, it’s really an impossible thing to be not OK. You, this internal guidance system right here, is always OK. But, what we do is we look at that external world; Mom, Dad, teacher, minister, and they say this is what we know and this is what the truth is, and this is how you do it. And then we follow that path and we continue to look to our external world for our own validation and our truth. And somebody—and that doesn’t work.
Regina Meredith: Mmmm.
Jim Self: And, so, one of two things happens; either you’re very sensitive and you get pushed away, and you say I’m not OK and I don’t fit and I’m not part of that, or you shut it down in many ways and step into it and just boldly go, you know . . .
Regina Meredith: I think that’s a good point you make because I mean even in my own life I’ve been in media since I was a kid, basically, you know my mid-early ‘20s, and I was so shy I would have gnawed off an arm before I would have raised my hand in class. And, I was terrified to do this. I did it on a dare, and yet, if you can push through, like you say, it’s not that the fear might not show itself, but if you can go there anyway, that’s part of that journey of boldness, isn’t it?
Jim Self: Very much so, and there’s a particular piece where people will lose quite often. There’s an aspect of this inner guidance system that you simply know this is my truth.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: And many times—and you know when it’s not your truth. And sometimes when you start to play the game of the external world; do money, do fame, do whatever it may be for you, we have a tendency to shut that internal guidance system down. It’s like kind of be quiet; I don’t want to hear this. I’m on my path. I’m having success, or whatever, and we don’t listen to our own truths.
Regina Meredith: Yeah.
Jim Self: What this shift of consciousness is about is this internal guidance system is now becoming the compass that’s driving you.
Regina Meredith:
Jim Self: Sometimes when you start to play the game of the external world; do money, do fame, whatever it may be for you, we have a tendency to shut that internal guidance system down. It’s like kind of be quiet. I don’t want to hear it. I’m on my path; I’m having success or whatever, and we don’t listen to our own truth. What this shift of consciousness is about is this internal guidance system is now becoming the compass that’s driving you.
Regina Meredith: Absolutely, now, I want to backtrack a little bit because we didn’t go into it. You have been able—you’ve had this extraordinary ability that is very rare. When you go into dreamtime, into the other dimensions at night, you actually have recall when you come back. Can you tell us what you’re doing over there and also had that information may have interfaced with putting you on your path, and also making some of the other earthly decisions you’ve made up to what you’re doing now?
Jim Self: I can’t do that. See, one of the things that happens every night, you go home. Everybody goes home every night.
Regina Meredith: Yeah, yeah.
Jim Self: You lay the body down and you say I’m going to sleep. You begin to disconnect the emotional, mental, spiritual body from the physical body and you go home. And, as the process of going home, you pass through a dream space, the astral plane as people describe it, and that’s not home; that’s just a place that you get to also play. But, when you go home, it’s like a fine flute or a single candle burning. It’s so quiet and calm, and it’s in that focused attention point that you remember yourself, you remember everything. And in that space it’s an amazing place; the great beings that we’re attached to or have reference to, the Jesus, the Buddha, the Metatron’s, the Archangel Michael, they’re all there. They all sit at that table. And the other ones that are there are the you’s, you know, the “you and me’s,” we sit at that table, too, fully engaged in that process.
The challenge is when you come back to the body and when you’ve separated there’s the acupuncture points. See, this is very interesting because that’s the docking points between the emotional and mental body, and they are little magnetic vortexes and they start to shut down, and you begin to go home. But, when you come back and you reconnect into that body, this is the point where most people remember their dreams is when you’re coming back into the body.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: But, you pass through that astral aspect and that’s not—your dream, that’s not where home is.
Regina Meredith: No.
Jim Self: That’s just another place.
Regina Meredith: Yes.
Jim Self: But, as soon as you reenter that body space, where you left off yesterday you pick right back up. So, it’s like going from that single flute of quietness, that single tone back to the Star Spangled Banner, all the noise of yesterday clicks right back in and people forget.
In my reality part of my path is to remember that space, so I can come back and say, “Look, this is how this works. These are how dimensions work. This is how this pathway or this shift works. So, the question, though, “What do you do when you go there?”, is a very difficult one to answer because the reference points are different, and when you start playing in this fifth, sixth, seventh-dimensional reality, it’s a completely different realm of consciousness. So, the bridging doesn’t happen comfortably in language. And part of my wonderful journey is I have enough awareness of what happens there that I bring into the language and then speak to this shift of consciousness.
Regina Meredith: And, so articulately, as well. And just continuing on that dream theme for a moment, this is very much as I understand it, although I can rarely remember anything from that quiet time. And, I’ve often felt that when you’re passing back through that little astral thing, which is—it’s recognizable. It’s a very close dimension to Earth.
Jim Self: Very much.
Regina Meredith: People that you know and that you might be hooking up with; individual energies or even individuals in astral form, and maybe even bringing back through some understanding of something that you’re balancing within the being via the feelings that are played out in that little drama realm, more human realm.
Jim Self: The astral plain is a very interesting aspect. It is part of the fourth dimension.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: It is a place where things happen in a different Time configuration. You know you’ve had dreams where somebody from your past and somebody from your future, they’re in the same dream, and it’s very consistent; you don’t think much about that.
Regina Meredith: Right.
Jim Self: So, but the astral plain is a very fascinating place and it’s going to be a troubling place for many as we go in this shift.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: Because one of the things that happens in the astral plain is what you think is what you get, as you think it. But, also, the astral plain is fascinating because depending on the life you live here, if you are a person that has lots of negative thoughts and lots of drama, when you go through into that astral plain something very specific happens. You see, thoughts are electrical and emotions are magnetic. [This is] a very important piece of information. And, so, how you think and then how you bind your thoughts to emotions—I hate that over there! And, you feel that anger and that resentment, or whatever it may be. Or, I love this wonderfully, and it’s airy and it’s fluid. If you’ve ever noticed, thoughts that you think that are heavy, angry, resentful, troubling, worrying, they linger a very long time in your awareness, in many people’s awareness.
Regina Meredith: That’s hell.
Jim Self: You’re very accurate; that’s hell. But, it’s hell in a moment that I’m going to point to. What happens is when you hold those thoughts here and then you pass into your sleep space, those magnetic thoughts of resentment, let’s say, that thought is such that it anchors to all the thoughts ever thought that had that same thought and emotional configuration. So, you just magnetically get pulled to a scripting that is very much like what you think. So, but where it becomes hell is a very accurate statement. And what you do is—in fact, they’ve done a study on people who are in prisons, and one of the common things they say is, “The thing I’m most unhappy about in my life is when I go to sleep. I don’t want to go to sleep.”
Regina Meredith: Hmmm. Yeah, that’s sad.
Jim Self: The reason being is when I hold anger, resentment, murder, rape, incest, and then I go to sleep, guess what I experience. So, what is that astral plain that’s challenging us; the heaviest, ugliest thoughts, thought that have never been manifested by you?
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: They sit in that level of the astral plain, the heavier part of the astral plain, and when you go to sleep you begin to magnetically connect into all the other thoughts that others have thought, and that’s a place that you don’t want to be.
Regina Meredith: And that’s not just your thought frequency; it’s everyone who has had similar frequency of thought feeding that field.
Jim Self: Every thought ever thought like that.
Regina Meredith: Yeah, yeah.
Jim Self: When it’s manifested, you bring it into the third dimension and experience it. But, where it has not been manifested, you begin to access that when you go to sleep. The challenge for the shift—we’re a little bit out of context here, but the third dimension, which you can talk about, is going to dissolve. It’s going away. It cannot continue to exist, but the fourth dimension isn’t going to go away. So, when you begin to play in that fourth-dimensional space and you hold those really negative, ugly thoughts, you’re going to begin to experience what you think as you think, and that’ going to be a challenge for some.
See, the flip side of it, though, is when you think about puppy dogs and little children and wonderful things and butterflies and beautiful Sedona’s of the world, those are fleeting thoughts, in a way, because that magnetism is not dense. It’s very fluid. And, so, you have a nice feeling with those thoughts, but you don’t stay focused on them a long time. So, when you begin to have that kind of construct and you go home at night, you pass into that area much more quickly than you do into those places which you don’t identify with, those heavier thoughts.
Regina Meredith: OK, now, you’ve opened up three or four different places we’re going to go, anyway. So, I’m going to let you guide this. Can you talk about—you’ve just about, essentially, the beginning point of what this shift is, right?
Jim Self: Correct.
Regina Meredith: Now, another understanding I have, and we’re going back just a little bit to that dream state interfacing with this fourth-dimensional aspect we pass through coming back from our home at night, is that as these—the third-dimensional frequencies start dissolving, there might be some confusion with individuals as to their time in the dream state versus their physical reality, and some people may already be experiencing this, whether it’s positive or whether it’s heavy.
Jim Self: Well, let’s back into that with some structure.
Regina Meredith: Yeah, yeah.
Jim Self: So, this thing called “dimensions” is a very interesting aspect.
Regina Meredith: Yeah.
Jim Self: So, a dimension—let’s start with this third dimension, which I’m saying is dissolving; it’s going away. Well, the dimension is not the chair we’re sitting in and the house that surrounds us, the tree outside the window. That’s form; that’s physical form. But, what this third dimension is is a very dense reality and it’s very structured; it’s conditional. There’s nothing in the third dimension that’s unconditional. You have to get into the fourth and fifth before you experience unconditional. So, conditional is very rigid. There’s not a lot of flexibility in this third dimension. It deals in things like “always and never.” She’s never going to be trustworthy. He always is going to be this or that. See, there’s no flexibility in that; [it’s] very rigid.
There’s also a component in the third dimension that keeps us very much in the third dimension, and that’s how we understand Time. Time is a very fascinating thing. Time is an application; it’s not a fixed creation. So, in the third dimension, the Time that we play in is called past, present, future, and then you die. But, if your look around and you listen to people speaking, what you hear them talking about is not present time, but this happened to me once upon a time and I hope it never happens to me, again. Or, they said if I would . . ., therefore, I will be. So, when you listen to people, very seldom do you hear them speaking in present time in a third-dimensional reality. There is a slight moment of present time, but it’s called reactionary present time. It’s like oh no! This wasn’t supposed to happen. Are you in present time? Oh, yeah. Are you a happy camper? No. I’m in reaction. That’s more or less the box.
But, what happens is there is no past and there is no future, but there is a past present moment that you’ve experienced, and there will be future present moment that you will experience. But, when people play in the past, a lot of times you’ll say, “How are you?” And, people go, “Oh, I’m fine.” Well, somehow, “I’m Fine,” and “I’m fine,” don’t match up. When you say, “Well, what’s going on?” “Well, my husband died 20 years ago.” “Oh.” “And it’s still sad for me.” Well, they’re sad in the present moment. So, emotions can only occur in the present moment. And an event in your past is a piece of information. So, when you keep reliving your past moment over and over, you get the same thing over and over. And, so, that’s Time related. But, if I said, “Oh, I know your husband died. That’s too bad, but, how was that lunch you had yesterday at that restaurant?” “Oh, it was really great.” Are they in that past moment at that moment? No. They are now very present, and that present time moment is kind of a fourth-dimensional space. We live in both of these at the same time.
So, in the fourth dimension present time is a very big piece. But, what makes present time so important as a Time application is when you’re living in the past or living in the future, you don’t have choice; you have reaction. The moment you get into present time, then you have choice and it’s in that choice you begin to create different structures.
The fourth dimension has a consideration called paradox. And, in simple terms, paradox means what was true just a minute ago may not be true right now. So, in the fourth dimension you get to get out of many of those restricted, non-flexible structures. So, she shows up at your door 20 years later, and you say, “Oh, I remember you. You were the bad one.” But, what they may have done is showed up at your doorstep to say, “I’m so sorry for what I did 20 years ago.” So, if you can have flexibility, you begin to change your reality. That simple piece is what is going to allow everybody to step into this next dimensional structure.
Regina Meredith: And, as you say, this is a choice. We have to make this choice in the moment, right?
Jim Self: Mmmhmm. It’s in the moment. You only have the moment. You have history from your past and you have creative opportunity in your future, but you can only make the future happen in the moment.
Regina Meredith: And, I bring that up because a lot of people think that we’re here; we chose to incarnate into this Time; it’s going to happen to us. But, actually, there is a participation that needs to occur. There are choices that need to occur, and you just spoke to that. And one of the things that’s very disconcerting for a lot of people right now as, again, I want to keep this journey going through these dimensional fields in tact as we move through them in this conversation. But, one of them that is disconcerting in the moment is that people reach for words—all ages; not Alzheimer’s.
Jim Self: Right.
Regina Meredith: And, you talk about this in your book, and when I read you book, I thought oh my God; you pick up something so ordinary; you have it in your head, picture in your head you’re going to go do this. You can’t even articulate the word for that common thing. Can you tell us what’s happening?
Jim Self: Yeah. See, this shift—the universe understands you don’t remember who you are. Let me identify it this way. So, you’re walking along and you’re having a good day and somebody comes along and insults you. And, you first have a thought oh, that doesn’t sound very good. But, you immediately have an emotion and in that emotion you say oh, this isn’t a very good thing. And then you try to figure out what to do with that. You’re not attractive; you don’t fit; you’re not intelligent; you’re never going to amount to anything. You get insulted, and you’ve got this insult and what do I do with it? And, you go to your best friend and you say, “Somebody just said I’m not smart, and they go, “They were right.” Now what do you do with it because you have no place to dump it off? So, what we do is we simply say I can’t handle this anymore, so I’m going to put it over here in this little box called denial. And then you keep looking at it and it keeps coming back into your head. So, you make a deal with it; you say if I put you back here in this place called unconsciousness, I’ll make a deal with you; I’ll never go visit that spot, again, if you don’t jump out and bite me in the butt.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: Does that make sense.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: Now, what happens is we have collected a whole lot of “who we are not.” See, going back to what I said in the beginning; you can’t be not OK, but you can accept other people’s gifts of, “You’re not OK,” and what we have a tendency to do is we wear those coats and we simply walk around defining ourselves by I’m not OK, but you can’t be not OK.
So, as this shift unfolds, why you are losing your memory is the universe knows that you don’t remember where you stored all those “I’m not OK’s.” And in this journey you can’t take your baggage with you. From this third dimension, moving to this fifth-dimensional space, you can’t be not OK in the fifth dimension. So, you and the universe are clearing away a lot of those patterns that you hold onto that simply say I’m not OK.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: And, so, this transformation we’re in, you are losing your memory, and the memory is really I’m not OK, and it’s disappearing. But, sometimes the part you’re asking about—and I’ve had this holding a spoon, and it’s like there’s a — Can’t find it.
Regina Meredith: (laughing together)
Jim Self: No matter what; it doesn’t matter whether you’re a child or an 85-year-old person, it’s as you say; it’s not Alzheimer’s. You are losing your memories of I’m not OK. If you think about your past, you’ve had lots of experiences where you’ve been insulted or you’ve embarrassed yourself. Those were experiences, but if you really think about it, many times those experiences happened and they took one second or two seconds, and yet, you define the rest of your life by I’m not OK. That’s being cleared from your reality. And, so, that’s where part of this memory lapse is.
Regina Meredith: If it drags the spoon with it, there you go!
Jim Self: And what happens is because the brain and the synaptics and the axons and all of the aspects of the brain and that whole field of memory, which sits in your energy field far more than it sits in your head, as pieces are removed, those connections get disconnected.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: And, you think about it for a minute and all of a sudden it’s like oh, yes. Boom! So, all that reconnection is going on all the time, but you are losing the memory of who you are not.
Regina Meredith: You’re not losing your mind; you’re losing your memory.
Jim Self: Correct.
Regina Meredith: Yeah, and that’s a good distinction. You’re talking—and, I’ve heard other people speak of this, as well—moving from this third-dimensional consciousness into the fourth, into the fifth-dimensional consciousness. Now, I think where some people who’ve contemplated this become confused is the understanding this find understanding of the difference between dimensions and vibrational frequencies and densities. It doesn’t mean your world suddenly disappears, but your consciousness had shifted.
Jim Self: Correct, exactly.
Regina Meredith: Well, and if you would explain that a bit.
Jim Self: Sure. So, the couch, the chair really doesn’t go away in this fifth-dimensional reality. You live in a third and a fourth dimension all the time and you’re stepping into a fifth dimension. The fifth dimension is lighter, it’s airy-er, if you would. In the fifth dimension words like safety and trust do not exist. There’s nothing unsafe and there’s nothing to distrust. In that fifth dimension it’s co-creation, cooperation. It’s beauty and wellbeing and reverence and kindness and graciousness; all those wonderful words, but those words are not intellectual, spoken words; they are felt. And, so, in that place where you live graciousness, you live certainty, command, you live capableness. When you begin to live in those words you start to move around very differently. In the third dimension you know all those words; capable, certain, happy, gracious, commanding, but how often do we live those words. And, see, now we’re talking about the path into the fifth dimension because when you can sit and feel happy, or if I say have you ever been certain. And, oh, yeah, I’ve been certain, you say. But, if I say you know, wait a minute, just take a breath and feel certain, all of a sudden it’s like oh, OK, certain. Something happens in the physiology when you change the frequency of thought. Then you begin to get to a place where you start to structure that thought into a every moment action and you find, also, when you’re feeling capable or certain, pleased, there’s a presence about you and that presence is in present time. That’s the place where you command from wellbeing. And that’s the pathway into this fifth-dimensional space.
Regina Meredith: And shall we assume that when we evolve ourselves into this fifth-dimensional consciousness that the speed of creation changes?
Jim Self: Oh, yes. It becomes instantaneous.
Regina Meredith: Yeah.
Jim Self: See, when you change the time configuration and you get away from past and future and you get into the present time where—the game of Time and present time—there’s four layers of present time and each one becomes more instantaneous. And, so, as you step into this you’re going to find, also, that Time is simultaneous and Time is also circular.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm
Jim Self: And, so, there’s places in these present-time configurations where when you are very present in your body, observing your reality and then choosing how you wish to react with that reality. That concept is very different than; shoot, ready, aim, or oh, they said and, so I’m going to do what they say. So, when you start to get into that construct where you can observe, choose and act, and you begin to play in wellbeing, recognizing this is all about wellbeing. I don’t need to be angry. You can’t take anger with you into that fifth dimension. It’s too heavy. It’s like a big weight in your hot air balloon. The balloon will just go up so high and it will stall out. You have to get rid of the I’m not OK’s. See, this is what the universe is doing. It knows those heavy rocks in your backpack have nothing to do with you. They are just gifts that others have given you that you’ve accepted to walk around with. As they begin to dissipate and go away, the ability to simply have conversation without “am I OK?”, begins to be very fluid and it’s in that space that you’re going to start to find the ability to create more instantaneously, like I’d like an apple, and that apple is going to appear in your hand.
Regina Meredith: Yes. Very beautiful. Let’s look at the human beings that exist now. Certainly, this journey is, perhaps, proving to be a little more challenging for people who were born a few decades or several decades ago, as the beginning of these energies started making the shift. So, we’re essentially born into the previous densities and constructs and boxes. Yet, we chose to be the first ones in that generation that have chosen to go through this metamorphoses from that density through to another one, which is—that’s a brave group of souls.
Jim Self: Yes.
Regina Meredith: And then you have the next ones coming in. The energies are a little more established, the new energies. Then, you have the little babies being born now. And can you talk a little bit about what this has been like from your observations of these different generations that have chosen to come in at very specific times?
Jim Self: Yeah. These beings at each one of those intervals really it started back in the late 1800s. There was an inkling of thought of possibility, and some came and some performed and some did what they did.
Regina Meredith: These were the Rudolph Steiner’s and some of these individuals.
Jim Self: Nikola Tesla. All of these great big . . .
Regina Meredith: Tesla, yes!
Jim Self: And, yet, they came into a time where they came into a confrontation with an ideology, a philosophy; money was a big piece, not making it bad or good. It was a philosophy, and how we will create and we will build great empires some said, the Rockefeller’s and all of those did remarkably wonderful things. But, they did it from a place that was not in that Law of One, where the first become the last and the last become the first. They did it with a break in it; me. I’m going to get it for me, and I don’t care about them. And that’s what we played through that period of time, setting this all up.
Regina Meredith: A lot of resistance to the ones who came in with knowledge.
Jim Self: Sure.
Regina Meredith: Yeah.
Jim Self: So, when Tesla showed up and Edison showed up and the guys with the money said, “Where do I make money?” They weren’t going to make money from Tesla. And, if Tesla had his—if that had been adapted, we would have been having this conversation back in the ‘40s.
Regina Meredith: Yes.
Jim Self: But it wasn’t adapted and it wasn’t integrated. And, so, that break, where it was OK to have poor, non-having-ness, and it was OK to not pay attention to women’s rights and gay rights and environmental rights. So, we brought ourselves to this place. But, as that was happening, there was the “you and me’s” and many others that said we’re going to make a difference. And, so, you had an interval in 1920, where there were some really remarkable beings that came onto the planet and said I’ll make a difference. And they did. Quietly, the came and they went. But, starting in about 1945, a very large grouping of beings came, and many of them came for different reasons. Many of them came with very big purposes, and yet, it was still an inkling that maybe, just maybe something would happen. See, because we have done this numbers of times before, and in those past times we’ve not succeeded. So, the intention was to become this fully Christed consciousness. That’s not about a man or a religion. That’s about an evolution, and we have not succeeded and we’ve ripped up that blueprint and we’ve tried again. And, so, this whole process was another one of those. And that year 2000 was very magical, and you can read about it in “Revelations,” “Ezekiel” and “Daniel” in the Bible. And, you had nine ways to do yourself in and to rip up the blueprint to try once again. But, in 1945, ’46 that grouping came into presence and they came very much into presence in the late ‘60s. And, you had the environmental movements and the gay movement, and all the various movements; women’s rights, where people just said enough! And then, oddly enough, that disappeared in the ‘70s and the ‘80s, and then money came back into the process. But, make no mistake, those that brought about the ‘60s and ‘70s, they didn’t go away, and now they’re coming back in lots of different ways and they are making a difference. These are big beings. And in 1987, when the Harmonic Convergence came, that was enormous because that’s the point in time where the new ones started to come. And, so, you’re watching these kids today. They’re DNA is different; they’re mental configurations are different; they’re recognitions of where they came from is conscious to them. We just don’t ask them, many times. So, they’re knowledge of who they are is very ingrained in them. And now the newer kids, the ones with Autism and the ones that are broken and obviously something’s wrong. Well, nothing’s wrong, we just don’t recognize the capacity that they have, and if we were to recognize it we would have to change. But, now we’re into the shift and the shift is, in fact, going to occur in such a way that this grouping of great ones that were quiet, but basically made a difference has come about in this. And, you’re seeing it now. More and more are waking up. Those are the leaders and the teachers and the healers, and the ones that said that I can make a difference. They never lost that right here, in that space in their heart.
Regina Meredith: So, this is a challenging time, then, for the little ones who have come in. They have one foot still in their home field and their other foot here. It’s almost, in some cases, as you say in Autism, it’s almost like it’s a premature stepping into this world, because the world doesn’t understand them and is not ready to embrace everything that they have to offer just yet. How do you see us bridging that with these incredible young beings who are here now?
Jim Self: These incredible young ones will take over, you know, and they know what they’re doing. And, see, it’s an interesting thing about these new ones because some of these have never had bodies before.
Regina Meredith: Yeah, yeah.
Jim Self: And these are—they’re big beings coming from lots of places, and there are many who have had bodies before and they have the knowledge to step right into things like governments and corporations and, basically, say we’re going to do this from that Law of One, where everybody counts and there is not greed. And, basically, there’s a philosophy that you’re going to see; you’ve started to see it. It’s one plus one is three. How do you take everything to the high road? And, when you play in that philosophy—like our business; we give away far more than we charge for and we give away substance because I know I’m never going to see all those people that I’m talking to on all these free lectures. But, it doesn’t matter if I get rewarded from well, give me your dollar. So, that model is starting to fall apart in the world. The Money model is going to change to something really remarkable, but it’s based on one plus one is three. Take it to the high road. Give things away and it comes back to you in many ways. That’s what you’re starting to see in this shift. You’re seeing people in each one of those generations that you’re talking about; the ones that came in the ‘40s, particularly, are making very major things happen today, even though they are not visible in many regards.
Regina Meredith: Thank you for explaining that. It’s a very beautiful kind of gradation of the consciousness coming in. And, now, when you’re working with people—and, we’ve already talked about what the possibility for each of us is now, if we make that choice to start moving into the clearer feelings, emotions, listening to our internal self, moving into that fifth-dimensional consciousness. But, in your work there are tools that you utilize to do this. And, I know you can’t share everything here because we only have a short bit of time together. Maybe just give us a glimpse of some of those tools, and people can check in with you later to find out more.
Jim Self: Sure. See, what you’re really asking about in your evolution is something that you’re not taught in the system of your education and your upbringing. See, you’re taught that everything external to you is what drives your reality. And, so, we’re starting to begin to recognize no, that I count. And that’s a big shift for a lot of people. Not “I” as the one that am really important from the ego side. It’s the place that I have value, is what’s starting to happen. But, in order to begin to play there, one of the things that helps is to recognize that energy and the vibration of energy and the vibration of words and thoughts and emotions. If you understand what’s happening in and around you and how to manage your energy, you basically can step out of all of these issues that you generally are confronting in your external world, where they tell you you’re OK, or not.
And, so, this energy field, this aura around you [is] a very, very important thing. In a way this is not a truth that I’m going to say, but there’s a point where you stop and you start. Really, that’s not accurate, but for this purpose, if you can define where the edge of your aura is, which is approximately when you stick your hand out in front of you and turn it this way, and if you can begin to have a consideration that from this point to me is who I am, and everything on the other side of that is Shakespeare’s theater to entertain me, would that create a concept and a perception differently than you normally walk around with? Yes, it does, if you can stay on your side. One of the tools, very simple; we use the concept of a rose that has lots of meaning. But, if you were to create an image of a rose right here on the edge of your energy field and know it goes all the way around you so you’re standing inside of a circle, if you would, and this is me and that’s the theater. And, the rule is you stay on your side of the rose, more or less. If you can play that game, it puts you; one, into present time, and two, it gives you choice. Then, you can observe, choose and decide on how you wish to act, [bringing] a very gigantic shift in people’s reality. One of the things that happens to people is—I’ll even go this far—most of the thoughts that you think and most of the beliefs that you hold are not even yours. And, so, how much time do you pay attention to all that noise running through your head all day long? And, mostly, it’s other people’s thoughts moving through your space. As soon as you create this rose—and this is not a wall or a “keep out” or a defense mechanism—it just simply says this is me and that’s the game that we’re . . .
Regina Meredith: The theater, yeah.
Jim Self: Just by entertaining that and holding it, an enormous amount of the noise begins to stay out. Also, many people are very empathetic; I feel you. Well, what happens is I feel you. In order to say that, I have to be in present time, going oh, yes; this is sad about your 20-year-old husband that died. I feel your feelings; empathy/sympathy. But, in real terms it doesn’t do you very much good running somebody else’s emotions through your body. But, when you look at families, for example; families are very much in each other’s space, and it causes challenges in relationships often, if you think about it from that standpoint. Not beating up families in any way, but I cannot distinguish myself between your feelings and my feelings.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: Husband and wife’s, mothers and children; it doesn’t matter. It’s I like you because you’re like me. But, when I run your you through the me, I get confused quite often. As soon as you play with this rose, you start to create a distinction between your bubble that you live in and the bubble that I live in. And, I can admire and respect you a whole lot more, many times, when I’m not trying to figure you out from right here.
Regina Meredith: And feel everything and process everything the other person is feeling. And, yet, we do this simply to feel like we’re connected to each other.
Jim Self: Very much.
Regina Meredith: Yeah.
Jim Self: And, it’s a distortion, and once you begin to create this—I don’t want to use the word “separation,” but identity of me and identity of you, I can admire you far greater and your creations, rather than being in competition with you because why did you get it and I didn’t?
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: So, the whole mindset begins to shift and you literally start to move into that place where I can allow you, admire you, appreciate you being you, and learn opportunities because I’m not in competition with you.
Regina Meredith: Yes. Very beautifully stated.
Jim Self: Very big deal.
Regina Meredith: Big deal. I can feel what you’re articulating energetically, as other people can listening to this, watching this right now. That was very beautifully put.
Jim Self: I’ll give you another simple one.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm.
Jim Self: See, when people understand this concept of grounding—OK; grounding—that word has been floating around for some time, and people have energetically begun to understand that if you imagine a line form the tip of your spine to the center of the Earth, it’s just like putting your hands under the water to get rid of that electrical charge.
Regina Meredith: Yes.
Jim Self: But, I said earlier, thoughts are electrical; emotions are magnetic. So, that electrical line will start to siphon off many of those thoughts. You know how you get people’s thoughts and they’re bouncing around?
Regina Meredith: The busy-ness, yeah.
Jim Self: And, you just are consumed all day long. That, simply, is like a ping pong ball that has no place to go. But when you ground and you give the command to turn on the grounding, that electrical static has a place to go. But, simultaneously, the emotions you feel, many times, are not your emotions. So, if you build a little coil around that line that you connect, you begin to neutralize many of the emotions that have nothing to do with you, at all.
Regina Meredith: Yes, yes.
Jim Self: Think about it. If we could get rid of that anger or that sadness or that depression, what you will find when you define the rose and you ground that a great portion of that has nothing to do with you at all?
Regina Meredith: Yes! Again, very beautifully put. And, now, we go to this kind of final little point—huge point—because when you’re with You; when you’re truly connected with your deepest aspect of your multidimensional self, there is this quietude. There is not a need for chatter, for competition even to seek or question. It’s so quiet and clear, and the contrast is almost non-existent.
Jim Self: Correct.
Regina Meredith: We, up until now, feel alive through contrast. So, psychologically we have to let go of this desire for this contrast to feel alive, to go into this much more sublime place. And, how do you experience that as your students, as you, yourself, and the people that come to your lectures and such, how does that progression look?
Jim Self: Well, one of the things that I find on kind of this path that I’ve been asked to teach by the archangels, and what the archangels said is, “We believe there’s a pathway that has never been walked—never walked—and, if it’s followed it will ascend; it will create an ascension for those who walk it, a change, a dramatic change, but it will also create a light, a magnetic portal, if you would, that will draw all of the third dimension into the fifth dimension. And, so, that’s kind of what mastering alchemy is. But, that pathway is very specifically laid out, and words become very important on the pathway. So, if I say to you in third dimension, the word “ease,” like oh, take it easy, you have a sense of that. But, when you get into the quietness that you’re pointing to and you say, I’d like to experience ease, [it’s] a very different experience energetically in the body. When you step into a fifth-dimensional space and you recognize that you’re a citizen of the fifth dimension, and in that space you live in a reference and a regalness—it’s almost like a royalty, with the most wonderful side of it where this is who I am. That presence becomes very big. Then, you begin to experience words like freedom in a way you cannot imagine in a third and fourth dimension. But, you experience that word “ease.” It’s full; it’s distinct; it adds magnetics. It attracts words like graciousness. Graciousness is a fifth-dimensional word. We can speak it in our language, but you have no idea what graciousness is as you begin to be that citizen of the fifth dimension, living in ease and beauty and wellbeing.
Regina Meredith: We’ve painted a beautiful portrait of what we can choose to move into, and it is our choice.
Jim Self: And, where we are about to go.
Regina Meredith: And, where we are about to go. And, again, mastering alchemy is the work that you’re offering the world at this time. People can check in with you or go to seminars, read books and whatnot. There’s plenty on line, free, also.
Jim Self: Yes.
Regina Meredith: And DVDs. All of the above so they can start working themselves through clearing—not just clearing, but actually choosing to go on this path into themselves, into their fifth-dimensional self. Very beautiful.
Jim Self: It’s a pathway. It’s not a truth; it’s not a philosophy; it’s not anything.
Regina Meredith: Yeah.
Jim Self: It simply says you can begin to change this I’m not OK into a sense of I’m capable; I’m certain; I’m present. You have a very different experience. It’ not follow me or listen to. It’s do this. Apply these tools and watch the world around you change.
Regina Meredith: Mmmhmm. I think you’re a good person to do this. You have a great deal of humility and clarity in your being, and I really appreciate your taking the time to sit with me today.
Jim Self: Thank you.
Regina Meredith: I found the details about the dissolution of the third dimension and our move into the thought form world of the fourth absolutely fascinating. We’ve all heard that we need to watch the quality of our thoughts; now you know why. You can learn more about Jim’s work by going to www.masteringalchemy.com. You can pick up a copy of his introductory book called, The Shift, his DVD course, or find out about his live seminars there. Until next time, thanks for watching CMN.

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