Christian Reincarnation?

the christians have a habit of believing in anything that suits their personal agendas, and then claiming their religion backs them up on it.

I saw a self proclaimed christian on here about 4 days ago, celebrating the death of another american .

CHRISTIAN VALUES STRIKES AGAIN.

Man is appointed ONCE to die, then the judgment. End of debate.

He doesnt hold true Christian values then.

Jesus conquered death when he died on the cross.

correction :

" the money changers conquered jesus when they crucified him"


stick with the facts and not the religious bullshit.

Noah was mankind's savior, through him and by him, we live.

GOD blessed us on account of Noah.
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Book of Enoch -- Chapter 64, (1-11)

In those days Noah saw that the earth became inclined, and that destruction approached. Then he lifted up his feet, and went to the ends of the earth, to the dwelling of his great-grandfather Enoch. And Noah cried with a bitter voice, Hear me; hear me; hear me: three times. And he said, Tell me what is transacting upon the earth; for the earth labours, and is violently shaken. Surely I shall perish with it.

After this there was a great perturbation on earth, and a voice was heard from heaven. I fell down on my face, when my great-grandfather Enoch came and stood by me. He said to me, Why have you cried out to me with a bitter cry and lamentation?

A commandment has gone forth from the LORD against those who dwell on the earth, that they may be destroyed; for they know every secret of the angels, every oppressive and secret power of the devils, and every power of those who commit sorcery, as well as of those who make molten images in the whole earth. They know how silver is produced from the dust of the earth, and how on the earth the metallic drop exists; for lead and tin are not produced from earth, as the primary fountain of their production.

Afterwards my great-grandfather Enoch seized me with his hand, raising me up, and saying to me, Go, for I have asked the LORD of spirits respecting this perturbation of the earth; who replied, On account of their impiety have their innumerable judgments been consummated before me. They have discovered secrets, and they are those who have been judged; but not you my son. The LORD of spirits knows that you are pure and good, free from the reproach of discovering secrets. He, the holy One, will establish your name in the midst of the saints, and will preserve you from those who dwell upon the earth. He will establish your seed in righteousness, with dominion and great glory; and from your seed shall spring forth righteousness and holy men without number for ever.

What could be more cruel and evil than that !!


Imagine....an unforgiving, unloving 'You only get one chance' type of God....


FUKKING PURE EVIL !!

Book of enoch is repressed from modern day theology due to it's hidden truth.

Food for thought.

Matthew 17

10The disciples asked him, "Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?"

11Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands." 13Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist.

Is John the Baptist a reincarnation of Elijah?

Keep believing that your entire life, and it will be evident that you are a brute beast made to be taken and destroyed as the word of God says. (2 Peter 2:12)

Your statement has nothing to do with reincarnation. That verse proves that reincarnation is not true.

Yahweh did send souls to limbo or even "hell" before Christ came. One reason Christ changed it was due to the fact through him Yahweh could feel and further understand the human condition therefore instead of judgment and anger, Yahweh then felt compassion for the human race after Jesus.

Yes before Jesus died this statement holds water. The "new" testament changed our beliefs on Yahweh, that is the true reason we are CHRISTians not Jews.

OK....My destiny was pre planned long ago....

I have no say in the matter....

But my soul will be ELIMINATED from existance for all time....

YES !!!! THANK YOU !!!!


When I die I don't go to Heaven....I don't go to Hell....

I am just gone entirely....

YES !!!! THANK YOU !!!!

Also remember hell is a Catholic based thought, hell doesn't even exist in the old testament majority of Jews don't even believe in it. When someone dies in the Torah it says that they are sent to "Sheol" which translates as grave or a persons death. Hell was invented to scare people into believing that they will spend an eternity of punishment of they commit evil acts. Granted I think that evil is punished but not in this manner not an eternity for that manner.

From the Apocalypse of Peter..

"My Father will give unto them all the life, the glory, and the kingdom that passeth not away, ... It is because of them that have believed in me that I am come. It is also because of them that have believed in me, that, at their word, I shall have pity on men..."

Wow that strikes down the theory of hell right there. Now even though Constantine believe that this was a true book and was almost included into the Bible we know today two reasons why it didn't make it.

1. Constantine didn't think the Bible should have two endings. There are two Genesis as well and one was removed.

2. This means that no matter what at the very end all human souls will be in Heaven

Sigh comparing us to false prophets is a little harsh. You know the Bible we have today isn't the true Bible. Ever hear of the Council of Nicea. 80% of us haven't.

Although anything is possible, I do not believe in reincarnation as a general option for people when they die.

The reason I don't believe in reincarnation is because it means we are not held accountable for our actions in this life. The theory behind reincarnation (hindu reincarnation) is that man can atone for his own sins by continuously improving throughout multiple lives. That is a nice theory and all, but it is completely opposite from Hebrew and Christian teachings, which both say that 'no matter what we do, we can never atone for our sins by ourselves - we need someone or something else to take our place.'

And a little thing called the 1st Amemndment,, allow ANYMAN to hear, see, think, debate, rethink., religion....

I call it consideration....we are free to consider anything we want, and we are free to discuss anything we want....

I am sure your idea will refornm religion as we know it and the barriers that divide will now crumble to a powder of dust

dont we wish

Christianity is a heavily plagiarized religion, nearly word for word identical to proceeding myths Of Mithra and Krishna. Have you ever wondered where the word "christ" comes from? It's a derivative of "krishna". Same for "hey zeus". Every attribute of Jesus exactly the same as Mithra, the Romans had temples to Mithra the Persian god that were later converted to Christianity.

There is no hell, no devil and no need for salvation. The entire construct ludicrous when one realizes that there is no judging god or could be. As people shift to a higher frequency of love the old myth falls away. Fear gives way to love.

The modern science of memes, memetics, is the study of replicating ideas has really brought to light what religion really is, a set of unproved related ideas, a self reinforcing memeplex. For example, if you believe then you go to heaven, if you disbelieve then you go to hell. It has no other reality except for competition for survival. The memeplex even disallows new memes, whatever we disagree with is from the devil.

But there is no devil. There's only religion ( [link to 666decoded.blogspot.com] and those that practice it often acts like devils and those possessed by religious ideas are creating hell on planet earth. Just look at the rape Palestine by Jews and wholly supported by insane religious Zionists. Those of "God" are pure evil.

So who cares if Christians get reincarnated? Reincarnation is part of Hindu mythology, just another unproved meme of what happens after death.

Why are we obsessed about death, anyways? Because with self awareness came fear of death, thus religion was born.

Yes the old reincarnation model we arent hold accountable for our actions. But the flesh isn't what is reincarnated the soul is. A person soul never changes a person someway deep inside is either a good person or an evil person. Hindu reincarnation is a basic model it is incorrect I am working to change that.

Christians believe in the resurrection not reincarnation. Look to Jesus who resurrected individuals in the Bible to show what he is going to do in the future for humankind on this earth.

Sorry, but that's not exactly it. Your physical body will be destroyed, but your soul, if in fact you do not belong to God, will suffer eternal torment. I am not wishing that on you or anyone, but that's what the bible teaches.

What about early Christians, research then discuss.

HELLO ????

The OP is wanting to transform just HIS religion....

He is just considering things....

You mean the council where the Roman Catholic church amalgamated paganism and Christianity, and turned it into the mess it is today. Most Christian denominations are actually Catholic in that they ACCEPT everyone else's theology.

The KJV is at least mapped to strong's concordance and we are able to derive the truth from the actual meanings of words in their original form.

You said DESTROYED !!!!

END OF FUKKING ARGUMENT !!!!

I am outside of your relm entirely....

BYE BYE !!!!

The bible talks about us living and existing before earth--VERY CLEARLY.

Our sin guilt came before we got here and we are ALL guilty of violating God's laws.

Some very familiar OT passages tell us this.

That's fine, but a person's soul is judged, not the flesh.

Secondly, if I was reincarnated, then my past life is completely obsolete. There would be no meaning or purpose to it, because my soul's past actions would not be judged. I think I know what you are trying to say, but you may want to articulate it a little better.

(Yes, I am aware that as a Christian, my sins in this life would not be judged, but that is because someone else has interceded for me, not by my own action. And yes, I do realize I voided my own argument, but my main argument is that it is not my actions that matter, but my faith in Jesus's actions).

Haha you think the King James version of the bible is the closest to the truth. Research King James life then get back to me. Constantine as well.

I know. Ignorance is bliss. It really is.