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10,000 Americans Detained as United States Mass Arrests Continue, American Congress Pushes for Laws to Label Political Dissidents as Mentally Insane

 
By: Sorcha Faal
04/15/2005 08:41 AM
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10,000 Americans Detained as United States Mass Arrests Continue, American Congress Pushes for Laws to Label Political Dissidents as Mentally Insane
I remember the Sorcha article from back in Febuary that mass roundups had started happening in the US. Of course the debunkers said it wasn´t true because they hadn´t heard about...well, here´s your proof...and 147,000 to date...and from the American press too.

[Ed. Note: This report should be read from its website location at [link to www.whatdoesitmean.com] as this email copy does not contain the links embedded in the original report.]

April 15, 2005

10,000 Americans Detained as United States Mass Arrests Continue, American Congress Pushes for Laws to Label Political Dissidents as Mentally Insane

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers

Reports have reached us today that United States SSB secret police forces are begging yet another roundup of dissidents American citizens, and as we can read in this report by the American Newspaper Los Angles Times titled "Thousands seized in large dragnet", and which says, "In an operation that was equal parts police work, public relations and lobbying, the Justice Department said yesterday it had conducted an unusual 168-hour sweep with state and local authorities that yielded the arrest of more than 10,000 fugitives wanted for murder, rape, kidnapping, robbery and drug offenses.

The dragnet, which the government said it orchestrated to coincide with National Crime Victims´ Rights Week, involved more than 3,100 law-enforcement officers nationwide and agents from 25 federal agencies, led by the U.S. Marshals Service."


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Wile E Coyote
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Yeah, I´ve been waiting for Sorcha to latch onto this one...
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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More than 150 who were arrested were wanted for murder and another 550 were sought on rape or sexual assault charges, the officials said.

applause
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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[link to www.google.com]
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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The only way to control the criminal is to incarcerate him. If it takes a "roundup" to get these hoodlums off the streets, then it´s OK with me. Murderers and rapists, Bye bye!

We can deal with the "political dissident" thing later. We need to have the baser elements off our streets...NOW.
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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what if they are not all criminals?
What if they arrest 200 real criminals and put them in the forfront of the other 9800 people?
we would be fooled into thinking that they all are criminals and support their actins, thus paving the way for more arrests in the future.

Why is it so difficult for us to look back in to history and see the clear pattern that is being repeated?
Are we really that stupid?
ArmedNSafe
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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If they knew where all these ´criminals´ were at why did they wait to do this in one sweep all over the country? People wake up! This is act one. Since when does DHS deal in state crimes? murder, rape, kidnapping, robbery are STATE issues not federal.
Critical Thinker
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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What I find most remarkable about all of this is how come this wasn´t known about or reported before? 147,000 is a large number of people, even by American standards I´d think.

Also, where are they putting all of these ´criminals´? Don´t the Yanks have prision shortages?

And did you notice in the article too that they said there were a million more? Really?

But I guess it´s ok as long as you call them criminals like the Nazi did.
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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The Insanos in the WH calling the kettle black. They are desperately trying to protect their treasonous asses from the PEOPLE. Their Martial Law won´t hold. The moment they try to implement it, more than 80 MILLION armed, angry, and fed up CITIZENS can and will take care of business. They want a fucking WAR, they are going to get one the likes of which they´ve never seen on American soil.
This is not a threat, it´s a PROMISE.
Critical Thinker
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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"If they knew where all these ´criminals´ were at why did they wait to do this in one sweep all over the country?"

That´s an excellent observation ArmedNSafe. Why? Also, how many police forces does something like this take? I know here in England the ratio of police to violent offenders is something like 10 arresting officers to one gangster. What is it in the US?

Whatever it is it´s got to be a large number.

"DHS deal in state crimes? murder, rape, kidnapping, robbery are STATE issues not federal"

I don´t understand this one mate, could you explain?
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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The Federal Gov´t has NO Inherent Police Power, States Do have police power. The only power the Feds have is what is spelled out Specifically in the Constitution.
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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no, there will be no revolt unless the media wants you to revolt. The American people are the same ones who fell so easily for the ploy of 9/11 , Afganistan, Iraq, The communist as an enemy and now Islam as an enemy.
If this is the mentality of the people, then rest assured that they will follow like sheep to the slaughter.
Don´t you know that programes like big brother etc are designed to brainwash you in to accepting this kind of thing? Have you ever wondered why these programes are the most popular thing on TV?
This is how stupis we all are.
Critical Thinker
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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I´m still not sure I understand this ArmedNSafe. I thought the US national police forces could arrest anyone anywhere...even in foregin countries, which I know for a fact they´ve done.

Also found this info that soliders are arresting civilians too.

By Joyce Howard Price
July 22, 2002
The Washington Times

Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr., Delaware Democrat, yesterday strongly endorsed giving soldiers the power to arrest American civilians.

Interviewed yesterday on "Fox News Sunday," Mr. Biden, a member of the Judiciary Committee, said the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878, which prevents the military from exercising police powers in this country, should be re-examined and "has to be amended."

Such a change will happen soon, he said.
[link to reclaimdemocracy.org]

While everyone has been wondering what excuse the Federal Government will use to declare Martial Law, we have been living under it. For years, right here in Texas, US Army soldiers have been performing civilian law enforcement duties off base.

According to a US Army SWAT Entry Team Leader with the 38th MP unit at Fort Hood, the City of Killeen has been using the Fort Hood SWAT Team to serve warrants and arrest civilians for at least the past two years. Apparently, Killeen does not have a SWAT Team of its own, so the city uses US Army soldiers instead. The Army, for its part, seems only too happy to oblige.
[link to www.infowars.com]
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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"If they knew where all these ´criminals´ were at why did they wait to do this in one sweep all over the country? People wake up!"

The possibility that they weren´t all criminals had better be weighing on all our minds. Sure sounded good. Thanks for clearing my mind. There is a target list of folks to be rounded up. And, it does beg the question of why so many and why now, when they knew where these men lived...in houses, and not on the run.

It´s possible that a lot of them never paid past due parking tickets or other fines, giving an excuse to round up these dissidents! Some will have owed child support (they need to be picked up). However, these would be classified as non-violent violations. Still, they may have been counted in the 10,000. Lots of them. A mass roundup would hide the blatant capture of non-criminals. Next?
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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"The moment they try to implement it, more than 80 MILLION armed, angry, and fed up CITIZENS can and will take care of business."

Are you kidding? .GOV sees 80 Million indebted fools who owe so much money and are afraid to lose any of their material wealth that the yare esentially scared stiff. How many of the 80 million are ´potential´ criminals they .GOV is looking to take care of right now?
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Gonzales first "look how big my dick is" conference and they nab 10,000 people? yeah......

why didnt they put the same effort into matters regarding 9/11, one of the biggest crimes in history, but they have the mentality of "eh yeah...9/11, hmmm, yeah it was arabs, they did it, it took us..i mean them a long time to plan it, but we did our best to pull it off.. i mean stop them"

unbelievable.

Its amazing to think that more people probably know that Britney spears is pregnant than whats really happening in america
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"I´m still not sure I understand this ArmedNSafe. I thought the US national police forces could arrest anyone anywhere...even in foregin countries, which I know for a fact they´ve done."

CT - because it is all really illegal. The Constitution has been subverted, undermined, and out right ignored by the judges of this once great nation so that the Federal, State, and Local governments are in charge. We live in a police state only a handfull of us can see it.
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All of these people have outstanding felony warrants out on them. It means they are fugitives of the law. They are for the most part criminals.
A large number of them have already posted bail and are out on the streets again. Some are being held till trial because they are flight risks.
There is no conspiracy here. Law enforcement did their job by removing from the streets or starting the process of bring criminals to justice and all some of you people can do is see bad in it.
Go figure.
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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The criminals are a reflection of the society created.The course we´re on will only make the problem worse.There is a solution.Convert to a socialist society and dump the free market scam.
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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OMG! OMG!

They do something against crime and you guys still cry....

O all those sad prisoners in jail.... better release them too...
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Cool - more true free labor to take jobs away from the Mexicans!!

Wooohoo!! Round ´em up boys....

Gonna need all the slave labor we can muster once the oil shortages start.


Welcome to the new way....
MrMister
12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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The internet is great at spreading information, but hasn´t had much impact in organizing groups that take action.

It´s a pity that forums like this aren´t integrated together with a real-world social networking system (like meetup.com for example), that can integrate with issues raised in discussions.

A lot of questions are raised about what is going on, both this and stranger conspiracies. But it takes a prolonged, orgainzed effort to make proress in figuring it out what is going on -- and planning political action based on those investigations.

Just whining on the internet only goes so far. What about trying to start student movements at universities? That is the traditional way.
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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"They are for the most part criminals.
A large number of them have already posted bail and are out on the streets again."

Gee, thanks. I´ll sleep better knowing that the large number of the arrested criminals are back out on the street again.

The question has not been answered as to why so many, and why now? They´ve known the whereabouts of these criminal elements for some time, but did not arrest them. Murderers and rapists let to run free all this time?

So just what IS a "criminal"? None seemed to be on the run. Betcha these criminals simply didn´t pay their speeding/parking tickets. Betcha.
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Guys it is social engineering, propaganda plain in simple. If you can´t see it you are hopeless.
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Come one, guys ... let´s think about this a moment ...

Let´s assume for a moment that these 10,000 people truly are the scum of the earth ... rapists, murderers, drug dealers, child molesters, etc. ... 10,000 people is a lot of people ... especially spread out over a country as large as the United States ... and as the news stories have indicated, these are folks who have been on the run ... fugitives ... they have actively avoided capture for some time ... perhaps just a few weeks in some cases but more likely for months and even years in other instances ... now, all of a sudden, in the course of a week "law" enforcement rounds up 10,000 of them? 10,000??? In a week??? People who have been hiding, living in cardboard boxes, crack houses, relative´s basements? Who have assumed new identities? In the course of just a few days, we manage to track down 10,000 of them? Did a flurry of tips suddenly come across the wire?

The best case scenario is that "law" enforcement has been tracking these people for some time in preparation for this round-up ... but that begs the question ... if you knew the whereabouts of murderers, rapists, et al, WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WAIT TO TAKE THEM INTO CUSTODY? Any rational person would not! You´d make the grab as soon as possible to get the scum off the steet. You certainly wouldn´t risk losing your target just to meet some glorified PR objective.

Okay, so we´ve established that rounding up over 10,000 people who DO NOT WANT TO BE FOUND nearly overnight is almost impossible ... and we´ve established that tracking 10,000 pieces of crap who DO NOT WANT TO BE FOUND for any length of time is risky and just doesn´t make sense ...

So just who then was rounded up? Possibly people who thought they had no reason to hide? People who could have been watched without fear of flight? People the government simply wanted out of circulation? Sure, mix in a few rapists and murderers in case anyone digs into the story ... you can hold up a trophy and say, "See? We got our man." But will we ever see the roster of the entire 10,000??? Anyone willing to bet that all of them are what the government claims them to be?
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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"We can deal with the "political dissident" thing later. We need to have the baser elements off our streets...NOW."

You will NEVER get them out of your streets, that´s the catch! Then it is just the noose gripping tight to your neck.
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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>>>You will NEVER get them out of your streets, that´s the catch!

I was thinking the same thing, just keep calling them ´criminals´ and no one will bother about them.

It doesn´t make any sense either that if the police know where a criminal is why not just arrest them then? Why wait unitl you have 10,000 them and round them up in one large group?

That doesn´t make any sense at all.
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I was just thinking too, how come there have only been national media stories about this? I saw a report on MSNBC just a few minutes ago about this, but nothing on our local news here in Chicago.

I would think that the local media in the areas where these arrests would take place would at least name those arrested, wouldn´t they?

So where are the local stories?
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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It was a pure and simple publicity stunt...

By the way, everyone ASSUMING these 10,000 were criminals must have forgotten "innocent until proven guilty"...a felony warrant does not make you guilty of anything...
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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So it´s impossible that there are 10,000 criminals with arrest warrants loose in a nation of 300 million, so it must mean some are political arrests?

LOL
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12/08/2005 10:07 AM
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Typical Faal spin, and you groupies just keep on eating it up.....

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