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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4164
5/5/2005 4:21 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
I agree with AC 15481. When are you guys gonna wake up. St. Germain, Sananda, all of them are liars. L I A R S. Shame on you guys for constantly being fooled. |
| angel8765
User ID: 447
5/5/2005 4:28 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
It is a great honour and lots of fun to be a fool.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/5/2005 4:33 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Better to be childish than to make war.
angel-E, I just was thinking of a similar reply.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 296
5/5/2005 4:39 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Others would call it passive-aggressive behavior. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/5/2005 4:46 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
14747:
You like to be cryptic? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/5/2005 5:23 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Spaceship Capricorn from yesterday:
Communication with Capt. Helena of the Capricorn. 04 May 2005
Lavar: Welcoming Helena.
Helena: Good morning. There is another day closer to the long awaited event that will precede our landing in your area. Our friends, who like yourself, have some telepathic capability, have informed us that there was another one or two day delay in the courier´s distributions of the final papers for the release of the prosperity funds. As you know, the release of those funds must precede the announcement of the NESARA program, which has been delayed for over two years now. With the announcement of the NESARA program, then we can plan for our landing in your valley. That will be soon now, finally.
Our planning is complete except for the selection of the day and hour of our landing. We will plan to have good weather when we land so that there will not be those who fail to come to see us because of rain.
After our landing and the widespread notice through the various media that we do exist, that we are aliens, and that we come in peace, then we will make proper arrangements for various landings in various places where we know we will be welcomed. That will take a few days after our "show-and-go" landing, but it will be of considerable interest to many of you.
We are pleased with the invitation to have some of our crew work with you in your laboratory for the commercialization of new- energy devices that will help reduce the pollution, especially from automobiles. That is our biggest or most important assignment for helping earth. Other starships have similar assignments in other parts of the world and working with other languages. You are certainly a peculiar humanity with so many languages and very little use of telepathy. We marvel at what you have accomplished under such limitations.
We shall be selecting the many place in which we will land after our "show-and-go" landings. These sites will be communicated to you and to others who are in communication with us. We understand that there will need to be some contact with government authorities that will need to specify where we can land. However, the landing sites must not be near military bases. We do not want to cause any turmoil among your military units. That is my message. Any questions?
Lavar: Thank you, dear Helena. Can you tell me if there are more than one landing site for your "show-and-go" landings?
Helena: Yes. There will be several. However, we are not sure if there will be the welcoming group that we expect when we land in your valley. Our communication is a bit weak in some areas. We would like to have more telepathic persons who could arrange welcoming committees for us.
Lavar: Thank you dear Helena. We shall be pleased to welcome you in our valley. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/5/2005 5:31 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
AND today the funds should finally be released they say but I am still not sure if these messages come in fact from TPTB. I mean the GF must have many more 66 vessels ready for such a task. So could the purpose still be to accept a faked alien landing?:
Communication with Capt. Helena of the Capricorn. 05 May 2005
Lavar: Welcoming Helena.
Helena: Good morning. We cannot see your town for the clouds this morning. Good news from some of our telepathic sources: This week, even today, the funds will finally be released. You will, I perceive, receive direct information about the release of the funds. Please let us know as soon as you can what information you also receive.
Lavar: Yes I will do that.
Helena: We are prepared to have our first show-and-go landing.
Lavar: I have been asked to inquire if you could have a shuttle land near Vancouver in Canada.
Helena: Yes we can. However, we must have someone who is telepathic to ensure a proper place for a landing and to organize the media so that our landing will be recorded and published.
We shall witness the declaration of peace and then we shall observe how much consternation is caused by the announcement of PEACE and the lessening of the military role in government. We have assumed that such a process can be accomplished in about two weeks time. As soon as that occurs, or we have evidence that the process is on going, then we can specify our landing date and time to you. Is that understood?
Lavar: Yes Dear Helena. I understand and I will be communicating with you so that I can receive the proper message. In fact, I will have Helen Engel also communicate so that between the two of us, we receive the same accurate time and date of your landing.
Helena: Good. We shall have a first landing and expect to have plenty of media attention about our landing, that you will arrange. Then we shall observe the results of the media reports of our various landings. Soon thereafter, as long as the message is properly disseminated that we come in peace and that we are here by assignment from the Galactic Federation, then we will arrange for landing and being among you. Does that sound reasonable to you?
Lavar: Yes Dear Helena. We will do our best to help with the media presence at your [first] landing. In addition, we will post information as widely as we can to many addresses and websites on the Internet.
Helena: Good! I hadn´t thought about the internet postings. That will help spread the word.
Lavar: We shall also take pictures that can be distributed on the Internet.
Helena: Wonderful, as you would say. We shall be most pleased at your help. That is my message. Any further questions?
Lavar: How many shuttles do you have with the Capricorn?
Helena: Sixty-six that are fully operational for earth use.
Lavar: Thank you dear Helena. I look forward to your show-and- go landing and to your future coming among us and visiting with us. |
| DrPostman  
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User ID: 41
5/5/2005 6:45 PM
 | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Looks like a set up for offering fake photos as
proof, and claiming that the media screwed up
the photo op.
How does the military have ANY control of the
Canadian government? Their military is almost
non-existant.
 and always will be
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high-occupancy vehicles, only rich assholes will be able to drive on it"
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| Anonymous Coward
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5/5/2005 7:44 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Newest from Candace Frieze!
Two Or More In My Name
by Candace Frieze & Sananda Immanuel
AbundantHope2002@wmconnect.com
Hi everyone, I am sorry for the time in getting this new message out. Sananda channeled his portion Wednesday, May 4. I have had computer difficulties this morning, May 5. I need to remember to frequently save the material as I work on it. What happened this morning seemed to be interference and not normal computer problems. I thought initially all of this message was lost, but the only part lost, was the part I did this morning, and had not yet saved. I had made a number of changes throughout the material this morning, and now have to reconstruct them again, as best my memory allows. I wrote most of the material prior to Sananda´s section on Monday.
As you know, it was about 12 days ago (4/23) that I did the channeling of the Message from Hatonn, aka Christ Michael and Sananda, and the calling of us to become Messiahs. (For those having missed this message, go to www.fourwinds10.com or www.lewisnews.com for it. It is called "No Other Planet Has Walked with Christ Michael As You Shall Do.)
The mail has been outstanding, big questions, taking much time, and offering both support and criticism. I need to talk a bit more about myself and what I am doing in all of this. You read in that message, that I sent a special petition straight to Christ Michael. It didn´t have to go all that far, it seems he was right in our skies. I sent that petition more than two years ago, but I can´t determine the time, I neglected to journalize it. And, in the asking for many messiahs, I find my prayer answered, the dream coming into being.
Some are asking, how do I know that who I am channeling are the real beings I claim to channel. I can only answer this by saying, that I am more than the "channel." I am actually on the "planning committee" for the Second Coming Event. (This was covered briefly in the last message, Update from Hatonn.) This is why I do the messages. Sananda, Hatonn, Germain, myself and others meet pretty regularly to discuss issues, and problems, and where we are going with these messages. These meetings are most often done by telepathy. I have said before that a conversation between several can occur with telepathy, just as it does using voice.
I talk with Sananda daily, sometimes several times a day, and with Hatonn frequently as required. I do not require a state of meditation for this communication, and neither will all of you, as you come into your abilities of telepathy. It is as natural as voice communication. I can chat with these folks in the store, while driving, out walking.
I have been asked if I have seen Sananda personally. Yes, I have. The first time was about 1 1/2 years ago, when he appeared to me in my home to discuss with me, my organization called Abundant Hope, and its proposed funding requirements. I have since, on a few occasions I have been transported to a location in the Himalayas for meetings. I realize you do have to accept these comments on faith at this time. But these happenings I am involved in are a very real experience for me.
What does Sananda look like? Very tall, but not super tall. He wears his hair in various lengths. He is currently growing it out for the "Jesus" look, in preparation for the Second Coming Event. Looks just like his picture in Journal #2, page 1, which is a reproduction of an actual photograph. His hair color is a dark strawberry blond, almost light strawberry brown as best as I can describe it. He has blue eyes of great depth.
Some are wondering more about Hatonn, and his being in a large gray body. I was sent a link, to a picture from the second Star Wars film, that had some grey beings in it. Some would like to know what to expect of Christ Michael (aka Hatonn) in his appearance. Other than being bald, and being very light gray in color, he is reasonably human looking, not as extreme as the appearance of these strange types in film. He has quite a glow about him also.
The reason for this special body, is that to use a human body, such as ours would require incarnation, as was done 2000 years ago. This idea is not suitable for the mission at hand. He has a total energy body, in his natural state. If he would appear in this manner on the Earth plane, this energy body would "toast" anybody approaching it. Not a good idea at this time.
This android type body, simply means it is not a reproducing body such as we have. This type of body he is using is quite suitable for deep space travel, and for his being in command of the fleet accompanying the Phoenix. His very high energy form would not be suitable around those in his command, same reason as above. He desires to actually walk the Earth.
Over these many months of preparing for all of this, I knew intuitively that this "Hatonn" was something more than a space commander of a fleet. I imagined all sorts of possibilities, all laughed at by Hatonn. About 10 days before we did the recent Christ Michael message, it dawned on me finally, and when I dawned on me, I knew I was correct. I asked for confirmation anyway. He was delighted in my discovery.
It was the putting together of himself as Aton, as a large over soul (mentioned in the message, Hatonn Describes Himself), and that comment, from the Phoenix Journals that he had experienced as a Jew on this planet that finally caused "my light bulb" moment. I did receive quite a few questions from others, asking also about how Hatonn is Creator God and Aton, and just who is Christ Michael in all of this. I wrote back to these ones, that Hatonn intended in a future message to further describe himself. I was going to call last weeks message, Hatonn Describes Himself, part 2, before the channeling was done. That was of course, quite inadequate.
I had a couple of days, where I was quite awe struck (more like dumb founded), as I contemplated that this Hatonn, whom I chat with regularly and very informally, was Christ Michael. I think this says something about how great this Christ Michael truly is, and his love of this Earth. He comes here, as a space commander (and this is an important part of the mission), gives very "in your face" type information and knowledge in the Phoenix Journals, and just chats with us. I remained in an intense frame of mind about all of this, as I read and re read, our message of last week. I´m still a little in this mood, as I come more to fully understand, how that prayer I sent, got answered.
I was sent a comment that how could the "Christ energy" incarnate into a body, the writer implying this was impossible, and stupid, as I understood the question. Seems to me it happened 2000 years ago.
This of course, is a reason for disbelief in some, that God would come in this manner. But so it is. God is pretty misunderstood on earth. I received a number of emails with information, that described God as very esoteric, and not in any way personal. But obviously, to myself at least, Christ comes as esoteric, the source of life spirit in this Universe, and as a person, a manager and solver of problems in this Universe. He also comes through all of us, as our Christ consciousness, by whatever label one likes.
Those of you reading the description of the "Michaels" in Urantia, understand this is indeed possible. If you do not own a copy of the Urantia book, I suggest you might want to visit www.Urantia.org and read paper #191, starting on page 1308. Our Christ Michael had 7 interesting experiences, required of the Creator Sons, before becoming the Sovereign leaders of their Universes. At this time, I want to briefly thank the person, who sent that paper to me. It saved me much time, in looking it up myself. I do not mention names of people in these messages, for reasons of their protection.
These experiences are called "bestowal´s," and the final bestowal, #7, must be as an incarnation into flesh, on a planet of the realm. Earth (Urantia) was chosen by Christ Michael, for this final event. This is why we are twice blessed, with his return, in person, yet another time. And he did promise this return, back when he was here the first time. The Urantia papers were given to Earth back around 1934 and 1935 (I might be off a year in my memory), and brought into publication in 1955, a year after the return of Christ Michael and Sananda.
I need to do a little change of pace, and instead of describing the negative mail, switch to talking about the positive mail. At least once a week, I hear from someone doing translations of the messages. I recently heard from a person in Europe, who has been translating the messages into German, and distributes them to his list of 2500 members.
It just occurred to me to mention another issue. Many of my readers are on some else´s list. I am finding out that many who have lists, only send selected messages out. I have answered several letters from people who received Hatonn´s recent update, and asking questions that clearly indicate they did not receive the big message, of who Hatonn really is.
I am asking those that forward the messages to their lists, to forward all of them, in their entirety, rather than those of your personal choice. If you do not wish to do this, please notify your list membership where the messages can be read at the websites mentioned above, and let these people chose for themselves what they wish to read.
Someone else is not only translating the messages into Spanish, for a small website and several lists, but also working on translating the Phoenix Journals. Another has translated the messages for a major site into Spanish, and has beautifully illustrated them. I have not book marked all the foreign language sites posting this material. I am requesting you resend your information to me, and I will put links in a future message, if you would like them published in these messages.
I have from people who translate into Dutch, Croatian, and French for list members, or who have found a website to publish the translations. The list goes on, I can´t remember them all. But the messages are traveling the world, and waking people up to the new possibilities.
I receive many letters from people who had nearly given up, ready to leave this earth, seeing little point in remaining here, who are now dreaming of messiah work. I have heard from several, of the Islamic faith, lead to discover spiritual websites, and finding the messages, and touched by them. Mohammed has answered some letters personally through me, and we have more messiahs willing to create a mission for their Islamic brothers and sisters.
Many writing are looking beyond what they had originally thought themselves capable, building a bigger dream, from the idea of becoming a messiah. You are all finding additional inspiration, that you write about to me. I also receive many personal stories, that these writers have not felt comfortable sharing with those round them. And we many, many, wonderful simple "Thank you notes"
So now, we need to get to the title of this message, "Two Or More In My Name." Many have written wanting a little better understanding of how or where a messiah might look for a mission.
We now go to Sananda, this morning of May 4th, 2005, a beautiful spring day where I live.
Sananda: My dear future fellow messiahs, we have received quite a few letters now, wondering how to become a messiah, and still by some asking me for what they are to do in this life, what is their mission.
So we will talk about what is your mission. First I am not going to assign you a mission. There are many needs on the planet, the needs varying according to location, and to your own skills. A messiah dreams up his/her own mission, according to personal skills, and needs determined.
Each of you lives in a different city, or country on this planet. We now have readers all over the world, as the result of this project, of announcing the Second Coming Event. We have people from big cities, and small little European type hamlets.
We have readers who are wealthy and independent. We have readers who had given up on Earth, and ready to check out, leave the incarnation. Even Candace found herself in this position many years ago, wondering of what good her life had accomplished, other than bringing children into an over populated world.
All of you, no matter how long you have been on this earth, (some readers are in their teens, some in their 90’s) have gifts to give, as the result of your experience. Sometimes you don´t see the gift. The gift can come from your "lousy" experiences. By your sad experiences, you understand the sadness of others, and might see a way to relieve that sadness.
Many of your are frustrated with the "system," in which you work. Maybe it is the lousy public school system, that you find controlling, and not listening to your suggestions for improvement. Maybe you do not make these suggestions, for as you well know, that if you open your "big mouth" you will be minus the job you need to feed your family.
You see children that are restricted in their imagination, being molded into identical little robots. Molded into servants to serve the rich. You see inquiring little minds, told to shut up. And you cry in this. You see many teachers around, who themselves have little inquisitiveness, themselves seemingly robotic.
Some of you may have been in politics, and are sadly disillusioned with the political process of graft and paybacks. You thought you went into the profession to further democracy and equal rights for all, and found this not the case. In fact, politics seemed to be about making laws that take away rights, and benefit only those in power.
You may be in law enforcement, and tired of arresting people, for whom prison does no good. Police officers get tired of putting prostitutes, and homeless people in jail. They need other services. Police officers also get tired of the system, that does not protect women and children in harms way from husbands and boyfriends that prey on them. You see graft also amongst your fellow officers, taking kickbacks for looking the other way.
You may be a social worker, exhausted from a heavy caseload, beyond your abilities to physically handle. You finally remove children from a bad home, only to have them returned, or put in a foster home, that may also prey upon these children. Earth has many predators, and it seems, no one really takes care of the predators, separating them from society. Instead you separate the victims, and often make matters worse for them. Some children go from foster home to foster home, and in the process of survival, become predators themselves.
Predation is often learned from other predators, or chosen as a way to exist. Those rich and in power, and dreaming up wars are the predators of the worse sort. They prey on the young, by offering them work in the military, when they can find none where they live. They send these young minds off to war, to die for their countries. This is predatory in nature.
Certainly, the BBB&G’s of the United States are predators, going after oil and power in the world, and using the young to carry out their goals, in the military. The taxpayers of America are being preyed upon, to pay for the current warring in Iraq, and Afghanistan. You are paying for your military to predate around the world. The financial bill is huge, beyond describing, to have the machines of war spread over more than 130 countries on the planet.
So where am I going with the predator part of this message? Some of you with skills to do so, need to go after the real predators. This is done in a variety of ways. One way, is of course to expose the predation, that is not seen. Many are already engaged in this battle, often through the Internet, in the posting of the problems and truth.
We need people to work within the systems they are currently employed in, to create change. We know this is difficult to do alone, this is why the importance, of "Two or More in My Name." Your newfound power needs to be shared. In the sharing, you share problems, and ideas of solution. You then draw more into your group, and your power grows.
WE WANT TO SEE SOME CHAOS BEING CREATED. Many in the New Age community have been taught the myth, that one must avoid negativity. Notice in our messages, and the responses to them, especially recently, there is chaos going on. Some of New Age are not happy with the idea of chaos. More often, these are BBB&G’s, pretending of the light, to cause spiritual people to turn away from solving problems, and thus they become part of the problem.
Chaos causes thinking, and action. Please in your creating, create some chaos in your work situations, where you see harm being done. But remember, to find yourself support and sharing in the creating of the chaos. If 1/4 of the teachers in a school get together and formulate a plan, you become a mighty force to be reckoned with. Most schools are not going to fire 1/4 of their already inadequate staff. If you are threatened, go find a reporter that will hear your story, or draw attention to the problem in other ways. Get it out, make noise!
Recently we had a reader, who, in the chaos we created recently, told everyone it was time to get off the lollipop material, that is sent to the spiritual community. I myself have sent lollipops in recent years, and I am tired of it. We must get off duffs, and get to work, and stop just being placated by sweet material, offering that love alone will change the world. It will not, and has not.
Action must be taken. A little chaos is a good thing. In sufficient numbers, Two or More in My Name, you can bring about great change. Understand, that spirituality is more than reading spiritual lollipops. To be truly spiritual, you must dive into life, become a part of it. Solving planetary problems is most spiritual indeed. Works are very important.
You will be helped in this by the coming of the Star people. You will be helped by having enough money to carry out plans requiring money. You will be able to apply for "grants," from special sources, of which we shall inform you of later.
Look at where you live. If you see no problems that need fixing, then look elsewhere. Right now, we do not need a huge number of spiritual mystery schools. That can come later. The mystery schools merely detract form the work that is so needed in these times.
There are more than 6 billion, mostly miserable people on this planet. Many of you should stay in your work, and enhance what you do within it. Some will need to leave, and make changes in another way. The misery of many people will first be relieved, by food, housing, and basic education and safety from predators. There is such talent that is suppressed in the poor. Feed them, so that they may find their talents and thus become messiahs themselves, Two or More in My Name.
Candace: I want to show how simple arithmetic works here, showing the power of "Two or More in My Name." Lets assume that from these messages alone, we find 2000 messiahs. These 2000 people then enlighten or otherwise help 2 people each, a sum of 4000. Now these additional people will spread their joy and learning also. It is a natural way to be, given the opportunity.
We now have 6000 enlightened (having light within) people. If all of these (including the first 2000) bring another 2 each into the fold, there are now 18,000 in the light. Again, these 18,000 help 2 each. There are now 54,000 living a much improved life, and choosing to "pay it forward!" (Great film by the way, if you saw the film by that name.) Most of you are going to help considerably more than two people. We aren´t necessarily talking that all these people will become messiahs, but nearly all of them, will choose to improve the lot of family and friends, and so it goes on and on.
Sananda: An amazing event is occurring now in Indonesia, as it recovers from the Tsunami. People there are beginning to overcome the stress of the losses, and are dreaming, in a way they had not before. Many find, they no longer wish to live as they did, in survival mode. Many minds are waking up, there is the beginning of a better way being found. The chaos created by the Tsunami, has created many questions, and these people are refusing to return to their former pathways. They are creating change.
These people in general are closely knit to begin with. The power of Two or More in My Name, has been used to keep family together in the past. Now that some family members are gone, these people look to others, and to themselves and a new power is being formed, for radical change. They will create a better world in that place.
They are forming alliances against those that always prey upon the survivors of calamity. They are standing tall in My Name (actually Mohammed´s name, in many cases) and saying enough is enough. They are also questioning the Islamic teachings that have kept them in place.
Mohammed will be working there to change those teachings, that were not his to begin with. He is working at night time with many now, who are preparing his way. He is also working with a few through these messages, who have written their concerns and needs. He has sent a few messages to readers from that region and others, thru Candace. These people are in great delight, knowing that he is returning, to right the wrongs done in his name.
For those with the means to do so, great help will be required in Africa, which is very war torn, having great problems with predators. These people are quite beautiful in spirit and if they get the opportunity, will be very creative. African mothers, given the chance, are amongst the best mothers in this world, understanding each child has gifts, and consciously see the gifts in their children. They suffer greatly when they cant provide the care their little ones need.
Of course, our star people will be helping install a situation of peace there, so those of you interested, can go to Africa in peace, and do the work. When these people are released from bondage, both from war, and disease, they will rise to the occasion. They are tough and durable.
Remember that AIDS is a laboratory disease, given to Africa through the small pox vaccine in the 1970’s. We have treatments that are relatively simple, that can help many with this condition. Sadly, some are too ill to totally heal, and they have to return in a new body. But this is not necessarily bad, as they will be reborn in new circumstances, with better care and teaching, and will blossom into their potential in that manner.
Many of you do live in countries with great problems, and you will have no trouble seeing the problems, and dreaming up a plan right where you live. We need the many "little" messiahs, joining with other little messiahs, and thus making a powerful messianic vision. In the waiting for the Second Coming events, look around you, look at your skills. Write down problems, your skills, make many lists of ideas, until something falls into place.
Some of you need to become politicians, in your regions, and help create a better way in this manner. Some of you need to change the industries, in which you work. Retooling for example may be important in manufacturing. Even little changes add up. If you are a teacher, create brightness for your children in your care, and they will share the light.
If you are a parent, look at how you parent, and if you find it leaves something to be desired, change how you parent. Children are always a gift to society, and your very future depends on them. They are the future.
I am going to leave the rest of the message to Candace. She is gong to discuss the power of community, Two or More in My Name. Feel blessed in your work and what you can bring to the world. Think in a messianic nature, and you shall become a messiah. Lets us all march on, in the power of Two or More in My Name, and use it to change the world. I cannot do it all by myself, even Christ Michael cannot do it by himself. It is a group project. We could not have the Second Coming event without your help to come. It would be pointless. Our work together, will glorify God. It will be Holy.
Yes, I know, again, where is NESARA. It is coming to the USA pretty shortly now, we believe. We seem to be finding no more nuclear bombs, and the White Knights are better unified, many moles identified and removed.
NESARA is happening in other countries already. I know you do not hear of it, except when your news announces someone has been removed from power. The financial changes in some countries are not known by the name of NESARA, the name was created in the United States.
There is a great deal going on, you do not see. I know, that we told you, the announcement would come first in the USA, and had not some major security issues arisen, it would have. We cannot make the rest of the world wait on the USA BBB&G’s games being played. We march on.
Yes, you want some countries, in which progress is being made. These would be Russia, several in the Indonesian area, several in Central and South America, Italy, France, Lebanon, and Syria, and to some degree in Israel and the Palestine. There are many changes occurring in Africa. Russia is working with the little countries, that are no long part of the USSR. Iran is making changes.
The Islamic countries in the Middle East are already on the gold standard, such as the Dinar, and little needs to be done, so far as how money is used in these areas. Islamic banks do not charge interest, they make money in business activities, as those in the USA and elsewhere will do. Watch what little of your world stage is presented by your news, and see NESARA happening in the reporting. Now it is back to work, a busy day, as always ahead! Be in Peace, and dream some dreams, in the awaiting. Namaste, Sananda Immanuel.
I have to leave the Power of Community message until later. The message is too big to send in one email, so will that portion later. What a day, the computer gives me trouble, I rewrite the Community section, only to have it not fit. It seems that my email space has shrunk. So I will just end this for the day.
Continue to be patient with NESARA. The good news, is that there have been no more big problems, like nuclear bombs. Lots of "little fires" right now being put out, such as the problem that was attempted in New York City at the British consulate. Those impatient and awaiting results, please understand that the Federation´s job is mighty.
This is the big last final major effort to boot the major BBB&G’s (Big, Bad, Boys and Girls) from this Earth. There were many attempts at assorted 911 type events, particularly last fall, in the USA and elsewhere, that were aborted. Last September, our BBB&G’s planned to blow up a major dam in the state I live in. There have been many serious attempts to institute martial law in the United States. As said previously, the safety of the world right now is extremely important. Trust in the process please. I personally know it is going to happen, or I would not have taken this job.
I myself face the same disappointment as all of you, when I don´t see what I expect to see on the TV. I get my days of being so tense, my shoulders ache from it. Right now, I am just a poor as many of you, with bills piled up, that I can´t pay. It is only a little longer, and it must be done right.
As has been stated before, by blatantly announcing the date for April 15th, instead of keeping it a secret, the hands of the BBB&G’s were again forced. They also had the same date.
The final conflict is occurring, this is the final battle between good and evil, as Revelations so predicted. And we are not about to let evil win this one. Please, again, trust in the process. During the waiting, continue dreaming instead of stewing. Good advice to myself, I might add! Take care, Candace |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/5/2005 8:04 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
This message gave me some goose bumps and wows.
For all who only wait for the news of the NESARA developments, here with I repeat those important passages:
"Yes, I know, again, where is NESARA. It is coming to the USA pretty shortly now, we believe. We seem to be finding no more nuclear bombs, and the White Knights are better unified, many moles identified and removed.
NESARA is happening in other countries already. I know you do not hear of it, except when your news announces someone has been removed from power. The financial changes in some countries are not known by the name of NESARA, the name was created in the United States.
There is a great deal going on, you do not see. I know, that we told you, the announcement would come first in the USA, and had not some major security issues arisen, it would have. We cannot make the rest of the world wait on the USA BBB&G’s games being played. We march on.
Yes, you want some countries, in which progress is being made. These would be Russia, several in the Indonesian area, several in Central and South America, Italy, France, Lebanon, and Syria, and to some degree in Israel and the Palestine. There are many changes occurring in Africa. Russia is working with the little countries, that are no long part of the USSR. Iran is making changes.
The Islamic countries in the Middle East are already on the gold standard, such as the Dinar, and little needs to be done, so far as how money is used in these areas. Islamic banks do not charge interest, they make money in business activities, as those in the USA and elsewhere will do. Watch what little of your world stage is presented by your news, and see NESARA happening in the reporting. Now it is back to work, a busy day, as always ahead! Be in Peace, and dream some dreams, in the awaiting. Namaste, Sananda Immanuel.
I have to leave the Power of Community message until later. The message is too big to send in one email, so will that portion later. What a day, the computer gives me trouble, I rewrite the Community section, only to have it not fit. It seems that my email space has shrunk. So I will just end this for the day.
Continue to be patient with NESARA. The good news, is that there have been no more big problems, like nuclear bombs. Lots of "little fires" right now being put out, such as the problem that was attempted in New York City at the British consulate. Those impatient and awaiting results, please understand that the Federation´s job is mighty.
This is the big last final major effort to boot the major BBB&G’s (Big, Bad, Boys and Girls) from this Earth. There were many attempts at assorted 911 type events, particularly last fall, in the USA and elsewhere, that were aborted. Last September, our BBB&G’s planned to blow up a major dam in the state I live in. There have been many serious attempts to institute martial law in the United States. As said previously, the safety of the world right now is extremely important. Trust in the process please. I personally know it is going to happen, or I would not have taken this job.
I myself face the same disappointment as all of you, when I don´t see what I expect to see on the TV. I get my days of being so tense, my shoulders ache from it. Right now, I am just a poor as many of you, with bills piled up, that I can´t pay. It is only a little longer, and it must be done right.
As has been stated before, by blatantly announcing the date for April 15th, instead of keeping it a secret, the hands of the BBB&G’s were again forced. They also had the same date.
The final conflict is occurring, this is the final battle between good and evil, as Revelations so predicted. And we are not about to let evil win this one. Please, again, trust in the process. During the waiting, continue dreaming instead of stewing. Good advice to myself, I might add! Take care, Candace" |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/5/2005 8:10 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
"We seem to be finding no more nuclear bombs, and the White Knights are better unified, many moles identified and removed."
A similar statement can be found in the latest from paoweb:
"To this end, we have joined forces with the more eager elements of our Earth allies and have petitioned your Ascended Masters for the authority to oust the miscreants from office." |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/5/2005 8:11 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 292
5/5/2005 8:19 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
If I where from a race with technology far superior to us and wanted to broadcast, all sats and networks would have control taken over for the time of the broadcast. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 7898
5/5/2005 8:49 PM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
yep.. jamming tv-satellites should be very easy to do! |
| angel8765
User ID: 447
5/6/2005 4:33 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
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| Bellephron
User ID: 414
5/6/2005 4:37 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Was it 10hrs earth time or 10hrs Galactic Persei Mean time? |
| angel8765
User ID: 447
5/6/2005 4:38 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/6/2005 5:15 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/6/2005 5:18 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
St. Germain 05.06.05.
You have been told often how great you are, and many have no real understanding of what is actually meant. Let me re-iterate that the last time you ventured out of the Godhead, was millions of years ago. In fact, time cannot really be applied in the way in which you understand it, as originally you were Beings of Light and everything was in the Now. Bear in mind that the Godhead within your Great Central Sun contained every soul in a perfect state of Oneness. The Creator decided that all of the God sparks should be sent out again, on an out breath to be co-Creators with God and experience their creations. You were God’s, and you delighted in using your powers to create realms of harmony and unimaginable beauty. It would have seemed that time had stood still, and you delighted in using your powers.
Some of you became restless, and looked for challenges that would test your abilities, and you took charge of your creations and their evolution. I have to remind you that all matter has a consciousness, and what you did was to create forms that could experience and grow independently. These forms became your “children” and you helped them evolve. In the following periods creation also became less than pure, and the vibrations began to lower and what were once creations of pure Light, now became more solid.
In the course of time the co-creators filled the Universe with all manner of forms. Soon there were multitudes of planets that bore life forms that would evolve and enter their own cycle. All of this took place within the greater Plan of the Creator, and gradually matter become progressively more solid and left the original realms of Light. Not every soul chose to go with these creations, and the Creator saw that when they did, they began to forget their origin. The lower realms came into existence, and souls that were eager to experience in them were accepted for a cycle within the solidity of matter.
Now, I have compressed a great period of learning, into a few paragraphs and I cannot do justice to the course of events. Words are sometimes totally inadequate to describe the wonders of the Heavens. You are however familiar with the idea of different dimensions, and when you agreed to come into the greater cycle, you gradually dropped down until you came into the present vibration of matter. Duality can only exist in the lower realms, as at a certain point the vibrations are too high for anything other than a perfect creation. The whole Universe was affected, and a whole panorama of different dimensions existed going all the way back to the Godhead.
You were never allowed to be completely encompassed by the lower vibration, and greater Beings accompanied those souls in their sojourn. However, some souls became so enraptured by the negative energies, that they all but forgot their real selves. Now you can reflect on your own position, as the opportunity to ascend out of the lower vibrations presents itself yet once again. God planned that you should have a way back, and many planets have found it and no longer have those lower vibratory levels. All progresses at its own speed, and Earth is the last planet to evolve in this solar system. As you know, even now allowance is made for those souls who are not prepared for Ascension, and they can continue their experiences elsewhere.
I have told you this story because I want you to understand that when we say you are great beings, we really mean it. It saddens us at times to know that some of you despise yourselves, and have no feeling of the Godself that is within. Even if you have transgressed, know that you have no need to feel guilt about it. In the ultimate all is simply experience, and there is absolutely no one other than yourself that will keep you down.
Yes, in learning about duality, you have to accept and experience the consequence of your actions. However, it is not held against you in any sense of punishment. You can be the lowest of the low, and find yourself in the most darkened realms, but you are not without help and you are assured of rising up again.
You all came from the Godhead, and one day The Creator will draw all back into it. Then a new cycle of expression will occur and the process will start all over again. Can you see how you are all connected, and how it behoves you to see all other souls on Earth as part of you? You all owe it to each other to help where you can, so that as you attract the Light to yourself through upliftment, you can offer a helping hand to others. When we come to you, we may have already ascended, but we have no feeling of superiority to you, as you are us, and we are you. Your Space friends that are linked to Earth are also highly evolved spiritually, but do not glory in their achievements. They are members of the Brotherhood of Light, and will serve you in their Love and understanding of the great Beings that you are.
Do not demean yourselves, you are not beyond redemption, you are not sinners in any way that condemns you to purgatory. All is nothing more than experience, and you have exercised your freewill to follow your fancies in duality. Now the cycle ends and you are loved for what you have been prepared to undertake. You entered the darkness because of your love and trust in the Creator, knowing that you would always return to the Light when your experience was completed.
I am St. Germain, and ask you to take a different look at yourself, see the Light within and aspire to the highest vision you have of yourself. Know that you are a physical Angel about to claim back your true place in the Light. The new Earth, which some like to call Terra is ready and you are lifting yourself up into its vibration of perfection and Truth. I also use my power to bring the transition into being, and it is now so near. I cannot tell you how much you are loved for being what you are, and the admiration that exists in the higher realms.
Thank you St. Germain
MIke Quinsey |
| GREY LENSMAN
User ID: 891
5/6/2005 5:25 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
I FOUND THIS MESSAGE INTERESTING, WE NEED TO DO IT STYLE, AS IT SHOULD BE.
IT STILL LEAVES ME TROUBLED, WHY
I KNOW MANY MANY PEOPLE STRUGGLING, NESSIAHS IF YOU LIKE, THEY ARE STILL STRUGGLING EVEN BEING IMPRISONED FOR THEIR WORK. THEY ARE BEING SQUEEZED HARDER AND HARDER. RICK SANTEE SPRINGS TO MIND. A BLOOD ANALYST ARRESTED AT GUN POINT AND HELD ILLEGALLY.
HERE IN MALAYSIA, RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO INDONESIA, NO ACTION EXCEPT PETROL PRICES UP AND DIESEL UP. PRICES RSING ALL THE TIME WHILST INCOMES FALL.
MY NEIGHBOUR WILL BE BACK FROM BORNEO TONIGHT, I WILL ASK HIM IF HE "NOTICED" ANYTHING. WE SHOULD BE WAY PAST NOTICING. WHAT WE GET IS NEGATIVE NOTICE, BLAIR GETS RE-ELECTED.
GL |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 414
5/6/2005 5:59 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Ask you borneo friend do bring back some NESARA spiced orangutan paws....yummers |
| angel8765
User ID: 447
5/6/2005 6:07 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Grey, I am going through a lot too, even do I have been cleaning out and out and out last six years consiously a lot.
We all are helping transforming the collective emotions, pains, angers, demeaning our selves, quilts, fear of making mistakes, fear of letting go of the old. We are all part of it.
Just read somewhere the energies in Indonesie are changing a lot in this moment. Is going on since the Tsunami. In this channel they say the people in Indonesie are starting to wake up.
There is not an fairy with a magic wand that touches you and hopla you have a lightbody. It just takes effort to get there.
My own energy has been changing a lot last weeks and yesterday again a lot a lot a lot and it is still integrating in my body.
Look beyond the turmoil. No matter how it was, or how it is, the light IS. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 414
5/6/2005 6:16 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
The Hicks...erm I mean reputable people below can confirm NESARA, they go into banks ya know! they have some compelling evidence, well someone phoned me who´s brother worked with someone in a bank who knows all about this...honest! (also these people got large loans and maxed out store and credit cards, unfortunately all of them are now in prison because they were unable to pay them back)
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: B of A Teller told me personally:
A few days ago I was at my B of A bank in Las Vegas. I quietly asked the teller if I could have a glimpse of the new money. She said they didn´t have it. I smiled and said of course you do, it is in your vault. She said well maybe, but we can´t release it till NESARA is announced. I said then you know all about NESARA. She said sure, we have been trained on how to use it.
I was a little surprised that she was so candid.
K C LVNV.
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 11:52 AM
Subject: Wanted to tell you what the Bank Teller said!
I went to B of A in Boca Raton, Florida, where I live and asked the teller if they had started training yet on NESARA. She looked at me for a minute and then asked if I was in Banking.
I said no, that I was an AMERICAN and I should know! She smiled and said they had not started yet, but very soon!
WEEEE HOOOO! It was hard not to scream at the top of my lungs when I hit the parking lot, but I refrained! Just passing on the positive!
L. L.
Subject: BANKING VERIFICATION
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:02:13 EST
Hi Dove,
Thank you for spreading the word, I have been reading your reports for about two years now and I am thankful for your DETERMINATION and PERSISTENCE!
I am a Sr. Loan Officer in Orange County so I talk to many people in the Banking and Investment community.
I have been asking many people in banking if they are aware of the changescoming, surprisingly most of them have heard that there are changes, some only know vague details where as others are briefed in more detail regarding the tax changes etc.
I also have noticed that the mortgage interest rates have been going up even though the rates that the banks get their money for continue to drop. Some have told me that this is because the banks are trying to make as much money as possible before the new changes take place.
I have a client/friend who´s father in law owns two banks in Upland and Chino California, he is checking into the new training for treasury banks and will let me know what he finds out, then I will forward it to you. Thank You for all your hard work! Let me know if I can help you, T. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/6/2005 6:55 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
AC 881:
Is it your wishful thinking that NESARA fails?
Watch out, someday you will reap what you sowed even if it may take its time. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/6/2005 7:41 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Guess why they always try to manipulate our beliefs?
We create our own reality and theIlluminati would like us to do such that it serves their agenda.
I live in a good world already. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 414
5/6/2005 9:01 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Remember Zeta Talk when nancy said that the zetas told her planet X was coming years ago and then every year it was coming and everytime Nancy said it was coming and then didnt the zetas told a number of "white" lies to protect us. Yup and still nothing!!
Nesara works on the same prinicipal. Every other year nesara is coming out and every time a prediction is made the "galactic federation" say that a bomb they had to defuse caused them to offset the date for fear of humanities safety, or some other "lie"....soon these "channellers" will say that the GF lied to them to protect us.
Bollocks
Nesara cannot be enforced and the PTB would never allow it. You can continue believeing in this rubbish or try and make a life for yourself outside of the mental hospital! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/6/2005 9:07 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
What schizophrenic person are you AC881?
You already made a thread where you seem to agree with NESARA:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
1&topic=3&showdate=5/6/05&PHPSESSID=0d1507df85d39e02c555218d8a7bb8af
Now you tell us to get a life outside the mental hospital.
What a double twisted action. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 414
5/6/2005 9:11 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 11342
obviously you cannont grasp the finer details of sarcasm....what part of
more  to come....
did you not understand when I posted that thread?
(just in cas you cant see it go back to the thread and look at the bottom of the first post)
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 193 (OP)
5/6/2005 9:16 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
881:
I do not bother with negative messages so at a closer look your thread may be meant cynical from the start.
But one thing is most obvious:
Youu bother about a positive vision for mankind so much that you seem to be forced fight NESARA with cynism.
May´be it´s you who needs to get a life (and a vision). |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 414
5/6/2005 9:20 AM | | Re: Affirmation: NESARA and First Contact Updates. | Quote |
i live in the real world, if all your hope is in aliens to come and save you then you can embrace these false gods and worship them as you will. If you want to perpetuate a lie then that is your will too. Funny how people put so much faith into these channellers, who are lining their pockets and making  out of the mindless masses.
If you really wanna make a difference go help out in your community or recycle, or give someone a hug and a smile now and then. If the persuit of financial freedom you want get out of america and live on an ice farm in greenland. |
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