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James Van Allen and "his" Belt and NASA hoax
Van Allen DID NOT discover the belts.
He merely suggested they put a geiger counter on the explorer sat.

A fella by the name of Nicholas Constantine Christofilos suggested the belts surrounded the earth.

Van Allen got the glory and became spokesman.

NCC became director of TOP SECRET belt manipulations using nuclear bombs.

Project Argus and Project Starfish-Prime Operation.
[link to www.youtube.com]



James Van Allen tells us that one of the most obvious clues NASA’s Apollo spacecrafts were incapable of sending men to the moon is the spacecrafts were equipped with windows. James Van Allen stated “the windows installed on the spacecraft would provide the astronauts basically no protection against the deep space deadly radiation and any attempt to travel beyond earth’s inner orbit would mean instant death for the astronauts.” The lecture started with Charlie Hawkins introducing his friend and mentor James Van Allen.
[link to video.google.com]

A statement (being old) which contradicts his past views about Apollo missions.
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02/16/2010 07:22 AM
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Very interesting, OP!

I've always thought that the radiation problem was the showstopper. I believe even NASA themselves gave the game away a few years ago in an officially-issued document, and movie (can't find the link, unfortunately).
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So, even if Apollo 11 didn't pass through the SAMA (South Atlantic Magnetic Anomaly) but the more intense parts of the Van Allen Belt, the explanation given by the ons who believe in the trip to the moon is + or - like this "a short expose is "safer" than a continous in low intensity radiation". They say the radiation is mainly about electrons and ionized protons, right? Yet, we know about Bremsstrahlung radiation which occur when accelerated electrons have to suddendly stop against a target.They change direction and are transformed into Bremsstrahlung X rays. When your dentist uses X rays is about 500 keV. Now, what about the amount in Van Allen belt?
It's not about Russian people talking about this but we know in 1998, hundreds of miles BELOW Van Allen belt, the space shuttle using a better shield than Apollo, the astronauts with closed eyes could stare the readiation through their already damaged retinas. That's why most of the astronauts got eye cataracts developed at 40 years old. I doubt they could see or even LIVE if they actually went to the moon.
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That's why is completely ABSURD when in a NASA video we see a stupid astronaut laughing his ass with the visor UP not covering his face!!!! I mean, even here with our atmosphere shield and 150 million kilometers distance from the Sun, we outta wear sunglasses to protect ourselves from UV light, don't we? I mean, nobody told trht guy to use the visor with a golden protection?


How come in the interview the 3 astronauts DON'T REMEMBER if they saw stars or didn't?


I mean, the response given is that they couldn't take photographs of the stars but here we hear them say they don't remember! How convinient. That's why they didn't answer either how they felt on the moon! Check from 1'24" on...


Why would Russian cosmonaut Boris Valentinovich Volinov lie
since it's a fact Russians never went to the moon?



More than this. Could you believe Ferrari or Pegeaut or any Formula 1 car would be given green light in a car race when only some months ago the prototype was fucked up? Well, check LEM as driven by Neil Armstrong in a controlable medium right here on earth:

Ridiculous!
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More about the crazy Greek-American :
[link to www.mlahanas.de]
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02/16/2010 07:52 AM
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That "Don't remember seeing stars" shit is really lame!

How obvious can the fakery get?

1rof1
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Thread: Is it possible a reasonable discussion about NASA & APOLO missions? (Page 5)
I mean, man, it's like someone going to Gizah and admitting on a colective important press that THEY (not just on eof them with amnesic problems) don't remember watching the sphinx nor the pyramid!!!!!!!

That's why the defenders of the Apollo shit want to focus on the technical aspects of the mission. First they talk about the pole of flag and inertial explanations; then when someone responds the flag was moving even without the proximity of any astronaut they change the approach and discuss about the material of the flag creating wrinkles which were more powerful than gravity or they talk about other vibrations. I mean these fuckers are always JUMPING from one answer to another in a very convenient escape.
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That "Don't remember seeing stars" shit is really lame!

How obvious can the fakery get?

1rof1
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If the astronauts were supposd to be on the earth side of the moon , the bright side we see, then wouldnt it be like daylight there and they wouldnt be able to see the stars from the surface of the moon
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If astronauts have amnesic problems, well, that's pathetic. Or they saw stars or didn't. Period. It's STUPID the statement they didn't remember specially in the whole context of the interview when the 3 of them REFUSED to answer what was it like to be on the moon and the significance of this for mankind. Don't try to justify, moron.
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02/16/2010 09:07 AM
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OP, you're wrong about EVERYTHING.

I congratulate you on the depth and breadth of your ignorance.

Given your obvious talent for chicanery, it's amazing that you aren't in Washington formulating US foreign policy.
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James Van Allen tells us that one of the most obvious clues NASA’s Apollo spacecrafts were incapable of sending men to the moon is the spacecrafts were equipped with windows. James Van Allen stated “the windows installed on the spacecraft would provide the astronauts basically no protection against the deep space deadly radiation and any attempt to travel beyond earth’s inner orbit would mean instant death for the astronauts.” The lecture started with Charlie Hawkins introducing his friend and mentor James Van Allen.
[link to video.google.com]

A statement (being old) which contradicts his past views about Apollo missions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 892069


And a statement that's not included on that audio. Thanks for wasting 10 minutes of my life. When you can actually provide the evidence you say you have, let me know.
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More than this. Could you believe Ferrari or Pegeaut or any Formula 1 car would be given green light in a car race when only some months ago the prototype was fucked up? Well, check LEM as driven by Neil Armstrong in a controlable medium right here on earth:
Ridiculous!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 892069


It's ridiculous that you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, the LLTV failed when Armstrong was flying it about a year before launch, but that was a training vehicle, and the technology had nothing to do with the lunar module itself. The LM proper was tested on Apollo 5, Apollo 9, and Apollo 10 and behaved superbly throughout.

If you don't know the first thing about the Apollo program, you've got no business being skeptical about it.
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In one year they solved the problem? HAHAHA!
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Yes, OP, they solved the problem. Because a team of brilliant and tireless engineers was working on it.

Being a complete dumbass, the concept of 'solving problems' is probably beyond your ken.
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Returner, am I wrong in everything just because you say it and because are not capable to understand simple English or don't want to admit what is crystal clear in the interview?
Buy it, you'll sleep better.
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What is wrong in all what is written in this page and why? Be specific, ass-hole...
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Did I invent these interview or stuff or you have too much shit in your previous empty brain-washed skull in order to accept that the first enemies of Apollo are not the technical aspects but the astronauts themselves?

I mean, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU to suggest, for example, that astronaut Gus Grissom, was wrong admitting Apollo was a bucket full of screws? Do you have better qualifications than Ph.D, Brian O’Leary, who was NASA consultant as well and former astronaut and is not 100% sure astronauts ever went to the moon and said this via FOX. Why an astronaut would admit this unless he has enough reasons to doubt?
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More than this. Could you believe Ferrari or Pegeaut or any Formula 1 car would be given green light in a car race when only some months ago the prototype was fucked up? Well, check LEM as driven by Neil Armstrong in a controlable medium right here on earth:
Ridiculous!


It's ridiculous that you don't know what you're talking about. Yes, the LLTV failed when Armstrong was flying it about a year before launch, but that was a training vehicle, and the technology had nothing to do with the lunar module itself. The LM proper was tested on Apollo 5, Apollo 9, and Apollo 10 and behaved superbly throughout.

If you don't know the first thing about the Apollo program, you've got no business being skeptical about it.
 Quoting: ToSeek



That's the problem. Those who doubt Apollo are precisely those who know the absolute least about it.
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In case you forgot, Guss Grissom and his 2 friends were cooked to death after he set a lemon on the window (Citröen reference to slow speed)and joked the guys wanted to send him to the moon while were not able to keep a good communication between 2 buildings.
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OP, you're wrong in everything concerning Apollo because everything you say is false.

I know you. You're a Moon hoaxer, at the very least, and possibly a troll as well. You take some sort of perverse delight in spreading lies and untruths about the single greatest technological achievement of the 20th century. Most Moon hoaxers do that because they're inadequate in their own eyes. You're utterly immune to reason, you reject even the best and most persuasive arguments out of hand, and you're here only to antagonize and infuriate.

Any of that ring true?
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A quote from Dr. James Van Allen himself:

[link to www.clavius.org]

"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen
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Van Allen DID NOT discover the belts.
He merely suggested they put a geiger counter on the explorer sat.

A fella by the name of Nicholas Constantine Christofilos suggested the belts surrounded the earth.

Van Allen got the glory and became spokesman.

NCC became director of TOP SECRET belt manipulations using nuclear bombs.

Project Argus and Project Starfish-Prime Operation.
[link to www.youtube.com]



James Van Allen tells us that one of the most obvious clues NASA’s Apollo spacecrafts were incapable of sending men to the moon is the spacecrafts were equipped with windows. James Van Allen stated “the windows installed on the spacecraft would provide the astronauts basically no protection against the deep space deadly radiation and any attempt to travel beyond earth’s inner orbit would mean instant death for the astronauts.” The lecture started with Charlie Hawkins introducing his friend and mentor James Van Allen.
[link to video.google.com]

A statement (being old) which contradicts his past views about Apollo missions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 892069


Hey assholes!

Ever notice the screen on your MICROWAVE? It prevents radiation from getting THROUGH THE WINDOW!. That was developed by NASA to keep the RADIATION from the VAN ALLEN BELT from GETTING THROUGH THE WINDOW! Look at the fuckin window of an apollo if you dont believe me! NOW
stfu WE went there...DICKHEADS!
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That's the problem. Those who doubt Apollo are precisely those who know the absolute least about it.
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That includes astronauts and Bill Kaysing who worked with Apollo rockets? YOU ARE BEATING AROUND THE BUSH -imbecil- AND ARE DODGING THE ISSUE ABOUT THE INTERVIEW.
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Read the quote above from Van Allen himself.
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A quote from Dr. James Van Allen himself:

[link to www.clavius.org]

"The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen
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As I said before, that stament has to be done at particular time by Van Allen the spokeman who got the credit of discovering something someone else knew long before him. Re-read from the beginning.
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Yes, OP, they solved the problem. Because a team of brilliant and tireless engineers was working on it.

Being a complete dumbass, the concept of 'solving problems' is probably beyond your ken.
 Quoting: Returner 997

HEH HEH....
Now the problem is the "brilliant and tireless engineers" have now forgotten the solutions...

OP that's the only reason we don't go back after 40-50 years...ya know these "brilliant" folks can't even remember if they saw stars or not...

But never fear....even though with all the technology being now light years ahead of the late 60's and no country on earth has yet to get beyond 400 miles for manned mission....these brilliant minds will dig deeper and deeper and actually remember HOW THEY DID GOT A MANNED MISSION ON THE MOON...

UH OH!!!!

They LOST everything....the blueprints to the LEM and the moonrover the contractor's documents for building the various components ...even most of the original film footage....Brilliant aren't they?

Yes indeedy...they "solved the problems" with their barely existing computer technology of the times....but lordy lordy these genius types....
THEY LOST THEM.

In the meantime, they have used our money to build a web of Haarp and surveilence that covers the planet....while using the interface of the barium/aluminum chemtrails continually being seen spewed above us...

brilliant guys....they really are.

They put it over on us for over 40 years
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for some reason i read van Halen lol
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That's the problem. Those who doubt Apollo are precisely those who know the absolute least about it.


That includes astronauts and Bill Kaysing who worked with Apollo rockets? YOU ARE BEATING AROUND THE BUSH -imbecil- AND ARE DODGING THE ISSUE ABOUT THE INTERVIEW.
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I repeat my statement...those who deny Apollo are precisely those who know the absolute least about it. Your posts are proof of this.
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I'll repeat because you are nor reading: astronauts and not conspiracy annonymous said Apollo was fiasco; people working from inside; former astromnauts don't believe the Apollo mission is 100 % real; the original interview indicates the astronauts suffer from sudden amnesia and refuse to answer important questions. Saying I'm rejecting data is not answering these issues, boys.
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Bill Kaysing?

LOL.

The guy was neither a scientist nor an engineer. He was a technical writer. Do you understand the difference?

He made quite a bit of money with his Moon Hoax nonsense. He did so by making statements he isn't qualified to make about things he doesn't know shit about to people too dumb to know better.

I can see why you'd mention him, OP.

You ARE his target audience.

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