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Who cares about your answer really? Even NASA says the purpose of golden protection, this was not invented by me.
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Doesn't matter what the gold visor was for; if you have a problem with Apollo because an astronaut had his gold visor up while facing the sun, then you should have an equal problem with ISS if you were being intellectually honest. You're not being honest so your claim is worthless.
I said ISS is not a hoax but I can't answer for all details because I said I didn't investigate that.
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I demanded an answer for your blatant self-contradiction, you have refused to give one. By your own reasoning it is not intellectually honest to say that you believe Apollo is a hoax but you believe ISS is not, yet that is EXACTLY what you're saying. Thank you for clearly and completely exposing yourself.
That speaks more than whatever logic of mine...
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Actually your dishonest position speaks loudest of all.
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I said ISS is not a hoax but I can't answer for all details because I said I didn't investigate that.

I demanded an answer for your blatant self-contradiction, you have refused to give one. By your own reasoning it is not intellectually honest to say that you believe Apollo is a hoax but you believe ISS is not,
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Yet he didnt say that. He said he didnt investigate the ISS.

Try to pay attention.
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Perspective? Its the same.


hf
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Just goes to show what a piss poor job you've done investigating this claim. If you take a couple of images from Apollo 15 of those mountains taken from different locations (with different foregrounds) where you claim the "backdrop" has remained the same you can construct a very effective 3d stereo image of the distant mountains, proving the mountains were real as was apollo.
Cross your eyes until the images overlap to see the mountains true 3d shape:
[link to i14.photobucket.com]
I'm so glad you brought this claim up, thank you for self-destructing your own theory.
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Proved to myself that NASA moonlandings are all bullshit long ago. Want to know how? Just ask yourself where are all the biological experiments where earthlifeforms have been shot up beyond LEO to pave the way for space travel. Show me where they have put any fungus or fruitflys beyond the radiation belts[so sorry,russian turtles from the 60s and "moonmen" don't count]. Show me a few, PLEASE? While you are at it explain to me why no manned missions have ever been sent up to repair communication satellites at geosyc a tenth of the way to the moon?

Ya see bubba ....they LOST them. Yes it's true. Just ask them. You know, they "recycled 'em.
And they don't have the blueprints for the LEM or anything else.
Verner van Braun said himself that it would take an enormous rocket to store the fuel in order to send a man to the moon...
and uh...this was the "father" of Nasa speaking...or should I say Fuhrer?

He said that in 1967. Isn't it amazing how fast they progress in two years...especially since the Russians were soundly kicking our asses in every single aspect of the "space race" They were at least five years ahead of us....but somehow.....suddenly there we are planting our flag on "the moon"...
horseshit.

We never went and that's why we can't go back.

Grow up people.

moon landings are like Santa and the North Pole...
Alot of fun but well....it just isn't like that.



Yet again, you are showing your vast ignorance with every post.

The bluepirnts still exist, as DO THE ORIGINAL VEHICLES that were built for Apollo 18, 19 and 20. Why do you keep trying to ignore this?

In 1967, the Saturn 5 was built and ready for testing. The first Saturn 5 was launched in November 1967.

[link to www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 92100

Van Braun stated at that time it would never fly to the moon. And it never did. It did not have the fuel capacity.

NASA has not produced the blueprints and has now stated they are lost...
Just because you put something in a museum does not mean it actually went to the moon.

According to Bill Kaysing who worked as a technical writer for NASA, the actual project proposal for the LEM should have cost millions and been thousand or more pages long...
It was only a couple hundred thousand to write and 70 pages.
Those pieces of junk never made the 239 thousand mile trip to the moon and back.
They were used in a studio production in which hundreds of photo anomalies have since been found.
The photos tell the story.
There are no blue prints. There are not even blueprints for the alleged moon suites they wore.
You are a liar and a fraud...just like the moon missions themselves.
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I said ISS is not a hoax but I can't answer for all details because I said I didn't investigate that.

I demanded an answer for your blatant self-contradiction, you have refused to give one. By your own reasoning it is not intellectually honest to say that you believe Apollo is a hoax but you believe ISS is not,



Yet he didnt say that. He said he didnt investigate the ISS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 892800

What part of this did you not understand?
I said ISS is not a hoax
 Quoting: OP

His claim regarding the gold visor demands he either conclude that ISS is also a hoax or that he was wrong. It is intellectually dishonest to do neither. He does neither because he is intellectually dishonest, there's literally no point in talking to the OP, end of story.
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Perspective? Its the same.


hf

Just goes to show what a piss poor job you've done investigating this claim. If you take a couple of images from Apollo 15 of those mountains taken from different locations (with different foregrounds) where you claim the "backdrop" has remained the same you can construct a very effective 3d stereo image of the distant mountains, proving the mountains were real as was apollo.
Cross your eyes until the images overlap to see the mountains true 3d shape:
[link to i14.photobucket.com]
I'm so glad you brought this claim up, thank you for self-destructing your own theory.
 Quoting: Astronut



Nope. Same backdrop, different missions, supposedly hundreds of miles apart. The photos speak for themselves.

A set. No way around it.
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His claim regarding the gold visor demands he either conclude that ISS is also a hoax or that he was wrong.
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No. The post wasnt about the ISS, and he said he didnt investigate the ISS.

That's all.
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Van Braun stated at that time it would never fly to the moon. And it never did. It did not have the fuel capacity.
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Bullshit, a Saturn V DOES have the fuel capacity to reach the moon, you can verify it for yourself:
[link to nassp.sourceforge.net]
It works, ignoring it won't change the fact that you are dead wrong.
NASA has not produced the blueprints and has now stated they are lost...
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The blueprints are on microfilm at the Marshall Spaceflight Center and some of the hard copies are in East Point, Georgia.
Record Group 255
Records of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration
"Records of the George C. Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Alabama, 1954-1998. The records relate to research and development of various NASA projects, including Apollo 13, NOVA, NERVA, Saturn Rocket, and SKYLAB; the work of NASA boards; the work of Wernher Von Braun; public affairs; and upper level management activities. Included are briefs, management issuance files, news releases, newspapers (the Marshall Star), program reviews, project files, publications, reassessment files, speech files, and technical reports. Nontextual records include charts, diagrams, and photographs"
There are not even blueprints for the alleged moon suites they wore.
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They still use the same suit designs today, ISS EMUs are direct descendents of Apollo EVA suits. So once again, your false belief demands that you also believe ISS is a hoax.
You are a liar and a fraud...just like the moon missions themselves.
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That's a serious accusation, and you don't seem to be able to back it up with proof.
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His claim regarding the gold visor demands he either conclude that ISS is also a hoax or that he was wrong.


No. The post wasnt about the ISS, and he said he didnt investigate the ISS.

That's all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 892800

Nope, you're a liar and a fraud:
I said ISS is not a hoax
 Quoting: OP

He can't say that with intellectual honesty given his position.

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Nope. Same backdrop, different missions, supposedly hundreds of miles apart. The photos speak for themselves.

A set. No way around it.
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Nope, the mountains are plainly visible in 3d, both photos were from the same mission, Apollo 15 (even the same damn roll of film), I already told you this, so now you're a liar and a fraud.
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
[link to www.lpi.usra.edu]
When you put the images together you get a beautiful 3d stereogram of the mountains. You're a liar, no way around it.

You have some kind of gall to lie to my face about that and expect you'll get away with it. You've now been exposed, have a nice day.

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Van Braun stated at that time it would never fly to the moon. And it never did. It did not have the fuel capacity.

Bullshit, a Saturn V DOES have the fuel capacity to reach the moon, you can verify it for yourself:
[link to nassp.sourceforge.net]
It works, ignoring it won't change the fact that you are dead wrong.

NASA has not produced the blueprints and has now stated they are lost...

The blueprints are on microfilm at the Marshall Spaceflight Center and some of the hard copies are in East Point, Georgia.
Record Group 255
Records of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration
"Records of the George C. Marshall Space Flight Center, Huntsville, Alabama, 1954-1998. The records relate to research and development of various NASA projects, including Apollo 13, NOVA, NERVA, Saturn Rocket, and SKYLAB; the work of NASA boards; the work of Wernher Von Braun; public affairs; and upper level management activities. Included are briefs, management issuance files, news releases, newspapers (the Marshall Star), program reviews, project files, publications, reassessment files, speech files, and technical reports. Nontextual records include charts, diagrams, and photographs"

There are not even blueprints for the alleged moon suites they wore.

They still use the same suit designs today, ISS EMUs are direct descendents of Apollo EVA suits. So once again, your false belief demands that you also believe ISS is a hoax.

You are a liar and a fraud...just like the moon missions themselves.

That's a serious accusation, and you don't seem to be able to back it up with proof.
 Quoting: Astronut

Åll lies. If the Saturn moon rocket worked so well why wasn't it used for the launching rockets after the alleged moon mission?
Answer: It didn't work. They designed a whole new rocket.
the blue prints are not in existence and if they are, they are not available to the public. Because if the public saw them they would know that this was a
lie.
The suits they wear today are of a completely different design.
These suits do not even exist anymore....to say they are the "direct descendent is a joke.
The alleged moon missions used the SAME AMOUNT of fuel to fly 239,000 miles to the moon, and and blast off and BACK as the rockets now use to go to low earth orbit.
How is that possible?
Despite all your indignation, the moon project was a hollywood production.
The photos are fake.
The vast blueprint and technical record for it does not exist or has been destroyed as part of the cover-up.
Micro film my ass. Let's see that microfilm then. Show us how they did then what they can't do now.

neither we or any other advanced nation has been back in more than 40 years though we are now technologically vastly superior to the late 60's.
Get a job you lying parasitic slime ball.
We never went to the moon and we won't in this generation either.
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Åll lies. If the Saturn moon rocket worked so well why wasn't it used for the launching rockets after the alleged moon mission?
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Because the shuttle was supposed to be cheaper and more practical.

The alleged moon missions used the SAME AMOUNT of fuel to fly 239,000 miles to the moon, and and blast off and BACK as the rockets now use to go to low earth orbit.
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Not true:

Saturn V - 5.6 million pounds of fuel
Space shuttle - 3.7 million pounds of fuel

neither we or any other advanced nation has been back in more than 40 years though we are now technologically vastly superior to the late 60's.
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Rocket technology has not improved significantly since the 1960's. DVDs, personal computers, and the Internet are impressive, but they're not going to get you to the Moon.
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After 4 pages NONE of them wanted to discuss why they said they didn't 'remember' if they saw stars. Why they refused to answer a simple and ST8 answer which is most relevant "what it meant to be on the moon and the meaning of this for al of us". Why Neil Armostrong quoted the PARROT example of a bad trip and a bird that everybody knows just repeats what they hear? Why they looked so damn neurotic and serious as being forced? .


The cant answer those questions, so they deflect away from it.

Here's the thing. These astronauts were not professional liars. So lying about something this big, is really going to throw them off a bit. The body language is all there, they are lying, anyone can pick up on that.

These men were military pilots, not pro con-men. Hence their inabilty to conceal the body language of a liar.

"They cant remember if they saw stars". Well, heck, who would? I mean, mankinds first trip to the moon?? Who would even think about stars?? lmao

They didnt go anywhere near the mooon then, and mankind cant go anywhere near it 41 years later.

Just smoke and mirrors.
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the question about if they saw stars was specifically referring to when they were looking at the solar corona. This was in reference to a particular experiment performed on the way there. They answered they couldn't remember seeing any when looking through the optics at the solar corona. They were NOT asked whether they could see any at any other time or on the surface. Other astonauts HAVE said they could see stars on the surface if they shaded their eyes appropriately.
Just when you think batshit crazy can't get any crazier Emily
goes and ups the ante.
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So, if they did not land on the moon, how they get that mirror in position?
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Typical Jack White. He is constantly rewriting his "studies," so it takes a bit of work to track down which particular bit he's focusing on. Worse, since he inevitably crops, overcompresses, and leaves off (or, in this case, gets wrong) the ID numbers.

After quite a few minutes of research I am still unable to find what (uncredited) third-party stitched panorama Jack is using for reference, but I have found the ID numbers of the original pictures.

The LM appears in AS15-87-11796 (the upsun, flared out picture) and AS15-87-11818 and 11819. It is not a consecutive pan between the first and the last pair; there are 22 frames to account for between them. It seems evident that the photographer has moved.

Mt. Hadley does not occur in the sequence again until 11799.

Switching to the LPI index, there are almost four complete 360 passes on that color magazine. The LM is roughly centered in AS15-87-11796, and four shots later (at roughly 30 degrees between shots) Mt. Hadley appears. In another rotation, the LM is centered in 11818, and Mt. Hadley was centered in 11817. These are the two series behind the stitched panoramas Jack White is referencing.

Using the MESA, the porch, the ladder, the legs, and the bulge of the aerozine tank (and the empty Rover quadrant...a frequent source of error for Mr. White!) I was able to make a diagram of the lander and compare camera angles. Between 11796 and 11818 the point of view moves clockwise 110 degrees.

So where is Mt. Hadley in reference to the lander? Why, slightly left in the second panorama, and four camera moves (from 80-120 degrees) clockwise in the first panorama.

Which is, within error, just how much the camera moved between those two series!

(And that's ignoring the probability that the astronaut continued to walk around the LM even while continuing the panorama...which is well-demonstrated by the radical distance changes in the third rotation series on that same film roll.)



In short, Jack White doesn't understand a three-dimensional universe. The two series of pictures are consistent to each other.
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So you forgot already that the specific question was about whether they saw stars, AND that you specifically said that it wasn't important if they did or not?

Sure, the MISSION is important. But they had other things to worry about. It's a bit like asking Amundsen, after he got back, if he happened to look for two snowflakes that were exactly alike. Err...let's focus on what mattered to actually getting to the pole, okay?
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Åll lies. If the Saturn moon rocket worked so well why wasn't it used for the launching rockets after the alleged moon mission?
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It's really damn expensive, you only build one when you have no other option. Unmanned probes can fly on much smaller rockets.
Answer: It didn't work.
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Bullshit, even amateurs tracked the apollo spacecraft to and from the moon, as has already been pointed out.
The suits they wear today are of a completely different design.
 Quoting: AC

Bullshit!! They use the exact same systems for regulating temperature and maintaining suit pressure.
[link to history.nasa.gov]
[link to www.astronautix.com]
"That company was ILC Dover, and the pride felt at ILC was surely justified; they designed and manufactured the space suit astronaut Armstrong wore while making American history on the moon. That same pride was sustained throughout all fifteen Skylab and Apollo/Soyuz Test Project (ASTP) mission, during which ILC produced space suits performed flawlessly. It was of little wonder then, that in 1977 ILC Dover, as part of the Hamilton Standard team, was selected by NASA as Space Suit Assembly (SSA) contractor for the Space Shuttle program."
[link to quest.nasa.gov]
"On the opposite side of the other steel plate is a second chamber through which water from the liquid transport circuit passes. The liquid transport circuit is a closed-loop system that is connected to the plastic tubing of the LCVG. Water in this circuit, driven by a pump, absorbs body heat. As the heated water passes to the heat exchanger and sublimator, heat is transferred through the aluminum wall to the chamber with the porous wall. The ice formed in the pores of that wall is sublimated by the heat directly into gas, permitting it to travel through the pores into space. In this manner, water in the transport circuit is cooled and returned to the LCVG."
These suits do not even exist anymore....to say they are the "direct descendent is a joke.
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It's the truth oh ill informed one.
The alleged moon missions used the SAME AMOUNT of fuel to fly 239,000 miles to the moon, and and blast off and BACK as the rockets now use to go to low earth orbit.
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BULLSHIT YOU LIAR! The Shuttle has about 1,730,000 kg of fuel mass at liftoff, the saturn V had 2,780,931 kg of fuel for a vehicle whose final mass was only 5,809kg vs 104,328kg for the shuttle at landing (even the whole CSM fully fueled was only 30,300kg)!
How is that possible?
 Quoting: AC

See above, you're full of lies.
Micro film my ass. Let's see that microfilm then.
 Quoting: AC

Go to marshall spaceflight center and read it yourself, I'm not here to do your research for you.
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FFS

Now Cletus is pulling Hoaxland out of his ass to 'prove' we never went to the moon...

How fucking desperate...

1rof1
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Snakeairlines, the retarded one, doesn't want to pick the astronauts statement not even with gloves. Hoagland BELIEVES we went to the moon, retarded reptile! If I mentioned him was in the proper context of my statement and due to Buzz Aldrin statements about UFOs and a monolith on Mars.
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How many times we read this like Nephilim tactic "The overwhelming evidence from actual scientists and engineers that were involved does that for me..." well, that doesn't count testimony of the very astronauts, right?
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Whether stars would really be visible or not is irrelevant.


Then stop fucking harping on it...
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It's relevant when the ASTRONAUTS SAY THEY DON'T REMEMBER JUST AFTER THEY GOT BACK FROM THE MOON! It's not just about the photos, it's about what they see. And, BTW, it's not the only astronaut commiting that stupid "mistake".
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Nope. Same backdrop, different missions, supposedly hundreds of miles apart. The photos speak for themselves.

A set. No way around it.
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You brain dead? Backdrops aren't bas-relief. They are painted.

This has depth...KILOMETERS of depth.



Or are you referring to another study you conveniently can't find? I'd save you the trouble if I'd bothered memorizing....there was ONE photograph that got mislabeled with the wrong mission name. But it is completely consistent with the mission it belongs with.

There is no case that has ever been shown of identical backgrounds. Only backgrounds that look similar to people who don't look very close.

I thought the whole idea is you guys notice what all the sheep don't notice? So why are you so piss-poor at seeing when two mountains are obviously and visibly different? Could it be, the reality is that you are duller than the "sheep" you despise, and falling credulously for any tall tale that allows you to think you are smarter and better informed then everyone else? Especially when it doesn't require you to do any actual work?

Seriously, what have you done here? Have you looked up pictures in the Apollo archive? Have you done blink comparisons and stiched partial panoramas in Photoshop? Have you pulled out a protractor? Checked what you see in an image against the actual geometry of the LM?

Nope. You just linked to a page from Jack White. That's some proud intellectual accomplishment there.
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You mean like the special effects when they used the same backdrop on different apollo missions? Busted.




Idiot.

There is no such duplicated backdrop.

There are only the efforts of the half-blind to pass off vaguely similar mountains as the same thing.

And the stupid, credulous people who accept this sort of garbage second-hand and don't even bother to look to confirm themselves.

Well, I HAVE looked. I can tell you the names of the people who produced these examples they claim are duplicated backgrounds. With a little more effort, I could track down (again!) the exact pictures.

The most well-known case I can quote straight off involved one of Jack White's studies...specifically, he compares two pictures with very different foregrounds, and what is apparently the same background.

But is it? Well, yes! It is a structure known as the South Massif, approximately ten kilometers from Station Six. And the second photograph is from a panorama taken at Station Seven; a few hundred meters away.

So any reasonable person would expect to see the same mountain (ten kilometers away) to appear in two photographs taken from locations a fraction of that distance apart. Heck, this was understood at least by the time Hokosai picked up a wood chisel.. [link to en.wikipedia.org]

But here's something even more intriguing. If you do a blink comparison between the two pictures Mr. White has identified, you see there are actually slight differences between the two views of the same mountain. Between the pictures, the camera has visibly moved slightly closer, a little lower in altitude, and orbited the mountain by about five degrees.

Which, if you look at the traverse map...across the same terrain which appears in Clementine images, LRO images, and Earth-bound telescopes...you see the distance and direction and relative elevation of Stations Six and Seven is consistent with the change of view angle to the mountain.

AND the same area also occurs in the detailed radar map and 3d reconstruction made by Kaguya...to the extent that you can re-create that same camera move, and compare that to the actual change between these two so-called "identical" backdrops.

Not only are they not identical, but they reveal a wealth of consistent detail vastly beyond the capabilities of the most careful big-budget motion picture.....of details which were not even visible in 1971!
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Confirm themselves! Hahaha! You went to the moon? When they overlap some photos to the other ones, they were the same and Nasa defenders said "oopa, human error, actually there was a 3 minute gap".
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I love it. They are "evasive" because they don't give an instant and clear-cut answer to a question that he says "isn't important."

MR ALDRIN! WHAT DID YOU EAT FOR LUNCH ON JANUARY 11, 1964? WHY ARE YOU HESITATING? BLURT IT OUT, MAN!
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Are you comparing what he ate with the response of 3 stoogies who said they didn't remember if they saw stars? Clap-clap-clap! BRAVOOOOOOOO.
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The suits they wear today are of a completely different design.
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Wrong. The principles haven't changed. Most of the design is vastly similar. There are next-generation ideas but they haven't been largely fielded yet---and even those aren't complete departures from what is known and understood about keeping a human alive in that environment.


These suits do not even exist anymore....to say they are the "direct descendent is a joke.

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Never heard of museums, eh? Or museum-quality reproductions, which are made with access to and complete information on the Apollo-era suits.


The alleged moon missions used the SAME AMOUNT of fuel to fly 239,000 miles to the moon, and and blast off and BACK as the rockets now use to go to low earth orbit.
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Wrong. The Shuttle system has a smaller delta-V.
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Is this nomuse (NLI)no-brain the one who put the example of what Aldrin ate in 1964 with the statement of 3 amnesic regarding to the stars and refusing to answer questions about the moon immediately after they got back? Well, well, Spock would say "not logic" reasoning.
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02/16/2010 06:31 PM
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Re: James Van Allen and "his" Belt and NASA hoax
Is this nomuse (NLI)no-brain the one who put the example of what Aldrin ate in 1964 with the statement of 3 amnesic regarding to the stars and refusing to answer questions about the moon immediately after they got back? Well, well, Spock would say "not logic" reasoning.
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Can you say that again in English?
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02/16/2010 06:32 PM
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Astronut demands an answer, hahaha! It tickles me....ask the remaining astronaut who knows better than you the arguments of engineers and Apollo crap you quote and still don't believe. You are who exactly?
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02/16/2010 06:35 PM
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So you forgot already that the specific question was about whether they saw stars, AND that you specifically said that it wasn't important if they did or not?

Sure, the MISSION is important. But they had other things to worry about. It's a bit like asking Amundsen, after he got back, if he happened to look for two snowflakes that were exactly alike. Err...let's focus on what mattered to actually getting to the pole, okay?
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You see, again the same IMBECIL reply. Indeed, ALL 3 OF THEM NEVER NOTICED ANYTHING SO THEY JUST DIDN'T REMEMBER and as clean as that you remove the argument from your head. WHAT AN IDIOTIC REPLY. Do you have kids, guy? Or your parents are retarded as you are and your kids will inherit that stupid criteria. Where the FUCK did you learn that reasoning? Hmm? Please, I wanna know the fucking teachers of you and your school.
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02/16/2010 06:37 PM
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This guy gotta be pulling everyone's leg!!!!
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02/16/2010 06:39 PM
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But it's the same pricks the ones who wanna discuss about photographs and stars and based upon ... NASA, of course! Who the fuck else?

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