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Why don't Freemason's speak?

 
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Why don't Freemason's speak?
Just wondering why masons dont talk about Mason stuff and are bound from talking about about it. I mean, you'd think that out of all the masons, you'd have a few bigmouths who go around telling some people or telling people on the internet. Are they cursed to not tell? I don't get it...

Like, if it's as serious as the rumours are, then wouldn't some tell? The information we have now would then be PROVEN.
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Like, if it's as serious as the rumours are, then wouldn't some tell? The information we have now would then be PROVEN.
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Maybe a lot of it is just that, rumors. So they don't bother I'm guessing.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Just wondering why masons dont talk about Mason stuff and are bound from talking about about it. I mean, you'd think that out of all the masons, you'd have a few bigmouths who go around telling some people or telling people on the internet. Are they cursed to not tell? I don't get it...

Like, if it's as serious as the rumours are, then wouldn't some tell? The information we have now would then be PROVEN.
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They say an oath to the other Mason's on their initiation night that they will never talk. Part of this oath is ; if they do speak about the inner workings; they will be killed by another Mason "brother".
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
I have a close family member who is a Mason and did quite a bit of research on the subject. He is very secretive. I wish he had never joined the organization but I had no control over it ; I was not born yet ....I believe he would have been a more open, nice easy going person instead of secretive and paranoid.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
You don't exactly go around telling everyone you secretly worship Lucifer...
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
But how do they know they've spoken? Is it satan magic?
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
They can speak in their gatherings and it is some kind of chanting ; probably satanic chantings.

They cannot tell others outside the organization about what goes on inside the Mason order.
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My old man is a freemason, he works on the other side of the world from him so i rarely speak with him. But when I try to talk about freemasons, nwo, illuminati, anything like that, he just changes subject. Like I didn't even mention anything.

they have something to hide.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Oh my there has been plenty said........you just haven't found it yet.....lol

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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
i personally say we torch them, actually. before its too late. they have stuff to hide - fine, we'll just off them. :D
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i personally say we torch them, actually. before its too late. they have stuff to hide - fine, we'll just off them. :D
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and you wonder why they would want to separate themselves from idiots.....lol
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
i personally say we torch them, actually. before its too late. they have stuff to hide - fine, we'll just off them. :D
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No

This is a very very large organization and very old. A lot of very important people in it with a lot of $$$$.

There are those in the lower rungs of the organization who know little about what goes on; then you have those really high up that "call the shots" so to speak.

This is a part of the illuminati. Nothing to play with no doubt. Best left alone. This group will be around long after we are both gone from this earth. If Jesus comes back before I go, which I am hoping, He will deal with this stuff I would imagine.

I have a family member who is a Mason and wish he never joined this thing. But I do not believe he is real high up so ..he knows little. The problem is he can get secretive and paranoid at times and I believe these unfortunate behaviors are partly to blame for being in this weird organization.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Try to remember these two points the next time you hear someone boasting about the "secrets" they have learned.

Those that speak,do not know.
Those that know,do not speak.

Secrets are like sharp things,they need to be keep away from children and fools.


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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Morgan, a supposed Freemason was silenced for spouting off.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Try to remember these two points the next time you hear someone boasting about the "secrets" they have learned.

Those that speak,do not know.
Those that know,do not speak.

Secrets are like sharp things,they need to be keep away from children and fools.


Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 887944

Those that have to keep secrets are not trust worthy nor pure of spirit. Their souls are in imbalance and unhealthy.

All secrets are eventually revealed by the Kingdom of Heaven. No secret goes unmasked.

The Kingdom of Heaven is good and pure and does not like secrets.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Try to remember these two points the next time you hear someone boasting about the "secrets" they have learned.

Those that speak,do not know.
Those that know,do not speak.

Secrets are like sharp things,they need to be keep away from children and fools.


Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 887944


Well aren't you special? Just a bunch of devil worshipers who are privy to the devils half-truths, if you ask me.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Try to remember these two points the next time you hear someone boasting about the "secrets" they have learned.

Those that speak,do not know.
Those that know,do not speak.

Secrets are like sharp things,they need to be keep away from children and fools.


Idol1

Those that have to keep secrets are not trust worthy nor pure of spirit. Their souls are in imbalance and unhealthy.

All secrets are eventually revealed by the Kingdom of Heaven. No secret goes unmasked.

The Kingdom of Heaven is good and pure and does not like secrets.
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..for the Kingdom of Heaven is the strongest of all Kingdoms and those that follow its tenants are the true and the brave and shall be rewarded by GOd the highest Himself. Those who are true and pure shall rule the Kingdoms of this world when this world's sick stale evil system dies out and is replaced by God's saints ...
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Try to remember these two points the next time you hear someone boasting about the "secrets" they have learned.

Those that speak,do not know.
Those that know,do not speak.

Secrets are like sharp things,they need to be keep away from children and fools.


Idol1

Those that have to keep secrets are not trust worthy nor pure of spirit. Their souls are in imbalance and unhealthy.

All secrets are eventually revealed by the Kingdom of Heaven. No secret goes unmasked.

The Kingdom of Heaven is good and pure and does not like secrets.

..for the Kingdom of Heaven is the strongest of all Kingdoms and those that follow its tenants are the true and the brave and shall be rewarded by GOd the highest Himself. Those who are true and pure shall rule the Kingdoms of this world when this world's sick stale evil system dies out and is replaced by God's saints ...
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The angels of the Lord know all secrets and reveal them to those on earth who are pure of heart and spirit.

So, to say that there are secrets...secrets only exist among those that are evil...evil people reside in darkness ...
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
i personally say we torch them, actually. before its too late. they have stuff to hide - fine, we'll just off them. :D

No

This is a very very large organization and very old. A lot of very important people in it with a lot of $$$$.

There are those in the lower rungs of the organization who know little about what goes on; then you have those really high up that "call the shots" so to speak.

This is a part of the illuminati. Nothing to play with no doubt. Best left alone. This group will be around long after we are both gone from this earth. If Jesus comes back before I go, which I am hoping, He will deal with this stuff I would imagine.

I have a family member who is a Mason and wish he never joined this thing. But I do not believe he is real high up so ..he knows little. The problem is he can get secretive and paranoid at times and I believe these unfortunate behaviors are partly to blame for being in this weird organization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 897341


My great drandpa is a freemason I just learnt. Apparently has been one for 30 odd years. In that time a LOT of strange things have happened concerning him. There was a falling out because someone took somehing of sentimental value. Of course, now that I know h's a mason, Im not entirely sure. I only just started speaking to him again since that fallout.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Try to remember these two points the next time you hear someone boasting about the "secrets" they have learned.

Those that speak,do not know.
Those that know,do not speak.

Secrets are like sharp things,they need to be keep away from children and fools.


Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 887944

So, you call the angels of the Lord children and fools?
They know all your secrets. Nothing Nothing is done without the Lord thy God knowing about it...
therefore nothing is really secret now is it...
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
i personally say we torch them, actually. before its too late. they have stuff to hide - fine, we'll just off them. :D

No

This is a very very large organization and very old. A lot of very important people in it with a lot of $$$$.

There are those in the lower rungs of the organization who know little about what goes on; then you have those really high up that "call the shots" so to speak.

This is a part of the illuminati. Nothing to play with no doubt. Best left alone. This group will be around long after we are both gone from this earth. If Jesus comes back before I go, which I am hoping, He will deal with this stuff I would imagine.

I have a family member who is a Mason and wish he never joined this thing. But I do not believe he is real high up so ..he knows little. The problem is he can get secretive and paranoid at times and I believe these unfortunate behaviors are partly to blame for being in this weird organization.


My great drandpa is a freemason I just learnt. Apparently has been one for 30 odd years. In that time a LOT of strange things have happened concerning him. There was a falling out because someone took somehing of sentimental value. Of course, now that I know h's a mason, Im not entirely sure. I only just started speaking to him again since that fallout.
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Well, he probably knows a lot of people from that organization; a member for 30 years and has dealings with a lot of people over those years.

Have you ever asked him if he has accepted God as his savior?
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
masons take blood oaths like the black occultists do..thats why golden dawn and OTO initiates never speak about their vile organisation in public..all are saturn worshipers...the would satan is a word used to divert attention from the cult of saturn
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masons take blood oaths like the black occultists do..thats why golden dawn and OTO initiates never speak about their vile organisation in public..all are saturn worshipers...the would satan is a word used to divert attention from the cult of saturn
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What kind of blood?
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Masons have no secret, all their books are on the net. They study symbolism, magic, goetia and mysticism. But they take the shortest path and burn their wings by doing so. I pity them.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Well, he probably knows a lot of people from that organization; a member for 30 years and has dealings with a lot of people over those years.

Have you ever asked him if he has accepted God as his savior?
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Like I said, I only just started talking to him. It's a pretty weird thing to ask someone who's basically a stranger to you.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Just wondering why masons dont talk about Mason stuff and are bound from talking about about it. I mean, you'd think that out of all the masons, you'd have a few bigmouths who go around telling some people or telling people on the internet. Are they cursed to not tell? I don't get it...

Like, if it's as serious as the rumours are, then wouldn't some tell? The information we have now would then be PROVEN.
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Then you can clearly the deduce that the "rumors" are without merit.

Do your own due diligence and you will find there is very little that is secret with a Masonic lodge and there is no grand conspiracy among Freemasons.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
There is no way masses of people (regardless of how great they think they are) can keep their mouths shut about a silly fraternity and its doings unless those involved are either committing crimes, doing socially unaccaptable things, or privy to information and privileges they fear losing or fear the general public having. It is a FACT of the human psyche. If there were not a GOOD reason to keep their mouths shut they would not do so, especially if offered money or sex (which I am certain has happened) in exchange for squawking.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Just wondering why masons dont talk about Mason stuff and are bound from talking about about it. I mean, you'd think that out of all the masons, you'd have a few bigmouths who go around telling some people or telling people on the internet. Are they cursed to not tell? I don't get it...

Like, if it's as serious as the rumours are, then wouldn't some tell? The information we have now would then be PROVEN.



Then you can clearly the deduce that the "rumors" are without merit.

Do your own due diligence and you will find there is very little that is secret with a Masonic lodge and there is no grand conspiracy among Freemasons.
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Then WHY the effing hell are they so secretive?!?!
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Nothing good can ever come out of any secret society/club.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Just wondering why masons dont talk about Mason stuff and are bound from talking about about it. I mean, you'd think that out of all the masons, you'd have a few bigmouths who go around telling some people or telling people on the internet. Are they cursed to not tell? I don't get it...

Like, if it's as serious as the rumours are, then wouldn't some tell? The information we have now would then be PROVEN.
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The oaths of secrecy and mutual protection, and to kill on command at 9th degree, etc, are strictly enforced... with extreme prejudice, and the oaths are legally binding as far as gov is concerned.

So, hesitate to swear to have your tongue torn out of you reveal any secrets, etc.

Google "Captain William Morgan", for evidence that oaths are enforced.
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Re: Why don't Freemason's speak?
Just wondering why masons dont talk about Mason stuff and are bound from talking about about it. I mean, you'd think that out of all the masons, you'd have a few bigmouths who go around telling some people or telling people on the internet. Are they cursed to not tell? I don't get it...

Like, if it's as serious as the rumours are, then wouldn't some tell? The information we have now would then be PROVEN.



Then you can clearly the deduce that the "rumors" are without merit.

Do your own due diligence and you will find there is very little that is secret with a Masonic lodge and there is no grand conspiracy among Freemasons.


Then WHY the effing hell are they so secretive?!?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 897523


Freemasonry has no secret agenda; only secret words and signs, and these are available online for anyone that is willing to take the time to research.

If you think Freemasons have a secret agenda and have something to hide, join and see for yourself.





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