DYING DRUG ADDICT REFUSED 2ND LIVER TRANSPLANT

Not everyone does deserve a second chance. Forgiveness yes, but that doesnt me you have to continue to hand over livers. At some point you have to deal with the consequence of your actions.
I think this is a necessary to keep people from taking advantage of such a great gift. After all it required the death of someone else.

Yeah, blame the hospital for your daughters continued abuse of drugs.

It cannot be the little angels (scratch that, skeezy cum repository) fault.

Hell, she is entitled to a 2nd liver. ENTITLED I SAY!!

Guess she isn't Jewish enough to have access to black market Palestinian organs.

Maybe I am just callous, but I wouldn't have even given her the first transplant.

i consider addiction a disease, and it certainly does not discriminate
if she has been staying clean, she deserves a chance

but from a doctors point of view, they have to take the concept of triage, and help those with the greatest chance of living

i hope an addict sees this and gets clean, sooner rather than later

Forget the liver transplant. The family should take her here. They could probably save her liver, get the drugs completely out of her system and help her with her addiction. The children deserve a chance to have a healthy drug free mother.
[link to bastyrcenter.org]

24 and needing a third liver??



At the very least she should be kicked to the bottom of the list.

she shouldn't have gotten the first one
livers are scarce and expensive
there are plenty of people who need livers who didn't destroy their own by their own poor choices
you control what you put in your holes
no one held her dowwn and forced drugs onto her to addict her
she picked up by choice, when she was not addicted
btw, i was a heroin addict for many years, have HCV, and will "need" a new liver before long
I don't want one
give 'mine" to someone whose is failing for some reason other than self-chosen selfish unhealthy pleasure pursuits
I already have a heart valve prosthesis from endocarditis
I don't deserve a liver over someone with organic disease or liver injury that wasn't self-administered

THEY WONT GIVE ME A LIVER SINGLE BROKE MALE.HEP.C HELL CANT AFFORD THE LIVER BIOPSI?PROBABLY WOULD REFUSE IT ANYWAY IM 50 NO KIDS NO FUTURE OH WELL

ENTITLED I SAY!! -too

I gaurantee she lives/sleeps within 20 metres of a cell tower and has during childhood


most people are enslaved as designed by these signals but then there are the 'unpredictable' reactions

Sad all the way around.

I'm amazed she got one in the first place.

Often hospitals put upbarriers to alcoholics and drug addicts.

They have to prove they are clean for a year or so.

In that time they usually die.

Also if you have 3 people waiting for that liver, who will get it?

a) The drug addict

b) unmarried 40 year old man

c) 27 year old mother of 2

my guess is that the fact the drug addict was a mother skewed her chances.

Normally women with kids, children and married men get the organs first.

Single women, then at the bottom single males and addicts/alcoholics.

It's based on generalized attitude of "societal good".

Familt people contribute to society.

Children have potential.

Single women can contribute through marriage and children.

Single men and addicts are disposable.

No.

She had her chance with the donor liver, and messed up. She should not have another liver, she will likely just screw that one up to...TBQH.

However, I think the family should sue the pharmaceutical company that created the medication she initially got addicted to.

Go F*CK yourself.

Prove me wrong!

Who gets drafted into the miltary?

Who fills up prisons?

Who gets and speads most sexually transmitted diseases?

Who causes the most highway deaths?

No, I'm not playing your sick "let's price humans" game.

You're a POS, and you need to go F*CK yourself.

Well, get married and become useful to society.

There are some tribes in Africa, where if a single male dies with no wife and kids, the people stick red hot coals in the corpse's orafices-mouth, nose, ears and asshole, so the soul of the departed will be trapped in his useless body, and never curse society with his selfish disposable self again.

I agree. :(

Single men die 10 years ealier than married men.

Generally:

Men die 5.2 years younger than women, spend their last decade in worse health, and die earlier of all the leading causes of death. For example, before age 65, twice as many men as women die of heart disease--100,000 more male human beings dead, early, every year. That's thirty times more men than have died, total, in the Iraq War!

[link to martynemko.blogspot.com]

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You have no right to valuate humans or judge anyone. You don't even know if I'm married or not. I could have a grown son, whom you just called useless.

You're mentality is no better than a slaver putting prices on captured slaves.

BTW, I could give a shit what African tribes people believe. The world isn't Africa, and their morales do not guide the world.

Go F*CK yourself.

LOL, What ever they do in Africa that is the exact OPPOSITE thing I want to do. Africa is a screwed up hell hole. Yea I guess they really need their men reproducing more...

Get a job, get a wife, get some kids.

That's adding to society.

Being single, selfish and probably queer, you are a drain on society.

You may have a job or jobs, you may have an education or training, but you give nothing to society's future.

You eat up resources, take jobs from people who do have and raise children and spread disease and cost insurance and welfare programs money when you do get sick and die.

You are disposable.

At best you can go out and and be a soldier.

At worst, a queer.

Are you joking, or are you mentally retarded ?

All single people do is consume.

They are consumers.

They redistribute wealth that could be used to raise more people to enhance society.

Being selfish, these single males will create nothing, add nothing, and will have to be cared for by society (everyone else) when they grow old and feeble.

Why do you think animals chase away surplus males?

They don't want their weak and lazy DNA from polluting the gene pool.

Addiction is not a disease.
It is a form of self destruction.

But as you say:
"if she has been staying clean, she deserves a chance"

Now lets look at the facts:
"She even took drugs after her first transplant last year ..."

However, You are free to give her your liver.
Are you not her second chance ??

So why should society give something so precious, life itself, to a creature that squandered their one chance at it already?

Donor organs go first to mothers with kids, children, married men with kids, with single women next, and addicts and single males last.

I knew a single woman with two children (the father disappeared years ago)who was refused a liver transplant in the United States. She was not a drug addict. I guess there are more people who need the organs than there are organs. I still can't believe she was refused treatment. I guess they didn't think her prognosis was good enough. She was in her 40s. She died a couple months later.

We have the technology to extend life well beyond nature. We all will die some day and we all hope that day will be as far away as possible. This may sound cold, but she would have already died had it not been for a compassionate donor and the somewhat rare life saving technology of a transplant.

Do people derserve a second chance? Sure. Is it something that can be afforded? Maybe, maybe not. It isn't neccessarily about money either. Somone has to donate a compatible liver. That doesn't happen every day. Many people die waiting for just the right match. Then there is the fact that she would be on a list of several other people who may have been waiting longer and may be in more desperate and immediate need. There is a lot more to it than just giving someone a third chance.

With the limited amount of compatible donors and other people who are also in need, it may be time for her and her family to accept that none of us is going to live forever and that there are grave consequences to continued life threatening drug use.

Unless there was no one else waiting in line before her and she paid for the procedure up front, it would be unfair to others and foolish to waste that level of resources on someone intent on killing themselves... again.

Last Edited by Resister on 02/24/2010 11:35 PM

married people take precedence.