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Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?

 
alpiste
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02/27/2010 12:05 AM
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Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
Canaryseed (Phalaris canariensis L.) has small elliptical grains with hulls, which are covered with very fine silicious spicules that are severe skin irritants and potentially carcinogenic. Because chemical treatments and a glabrous genotype are now available for eliminating the spicules, the chemical composition of the dehulled groat was determined to evaluate its potential food and industrial applications. Canaryseed groats contained 61.0% starch, which comprised small polygonal granules with diameters of 1.5−3.5 μm. The groats averaged 18.7% protein compared to 15.0% in wheat, and the proportions of prolamin and glutelin in the protein averaged 77.7%, exceeding that in the control wheat protein of 73.5%. Canaryseed proteins were more deficient in lysine and threonine than wheat proteins but were very rich in cystine, tryptophan, and phenylalanine. For a cereal, canaryseed groats were very high in crude fat, 8.7%, and purified total lipid, 11.0%, containing 55% linoleic, 29% oleic, 11% palmitic, and 2.5% linolenic acids. The groat and roller-milled flours were low in dietary fiber, soluble sugars, and total ash. The composition of small granule starch and gluten-like proteins, rich in tryptophan, suggests unique functional and nutritional properties for canaryseed groats.

Keywords: Canaryseed; seed morphology; composition; amino acids; protein fractions; fatty acids; sugars; www.alpiste.com
alpiste.com (OP)
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02/27/2010 11:21 AM
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Hairless / silica free canary seed alpiste is being recommended as the safest form of alpiste. (See grower association CANA).

The only CANA registered exporter of silica free, hairless canary seed for potential human consumption use is at [link to www.alpiste.com]
carlosglz

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03/07/2010 07:19 PM
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This message is for George Jibilian owner of Alpiste.com…

I have screencapped and documented the dozens of articles and comments you have spread throughout the internet claiming that “certified hairless” or “silica hair free” canary seed is the only seed you should be buying because those silica hairs have a “similar structure to ABESTOS”.

This unique polished variety is (of course) conveniently available through your website.

I’d like to invite you to please post your irrefutable third party evidence of these unsafe seeds with the “hairs made of 98% silica” on this message board within (5) business days.

I’ll be honest, I suspect you are employing a fraudulent marketing scare tactic that is 100% illegal under federal FTC laws for nutritional supplements. I urge you to read the FTC’s advertising guidelines:
[link to www.ftc.gov]
[link to www.keytlaw.com]

It would be fair if you were marketing 100% organic, pesticide free, human grade alpiste or canary seed (Phalaris canariensis). But scaring people with information that I personally have not been able to substantiate after several days of research, is just plain evil, and like I mentioned, a federal crime.

I would be happy if you can prove your claim, and then demonstrate with verifiable proof, why your seeds are superior.
alpiste.com (OP)
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03/07/2010 11:31 PM
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Re: Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
I would appreciate it if you would not slander us.

For the record...

Silica Spicules in Canary Grass

R. H. NEWMAN and A. L. MACKAY
Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Lincoln's Inn Fields London WC2A 3PX
Department of Crystallography, Birkbeck College Malet Street, London WCIE 7HX

Accepted: 20 July 1983

The hairs occurring on the surface and the persistent bracts of the fruits of canary grass (Phalaris canariensis) consist of opaline silica spicules emerging from the abaxial epidermal cells. They are approx. 500 µm long and taper from a diameter of 15 um at the base to a tip radius of 0.3 µm. These spicules are found in the diet of people living in areas in which very high incidences of oesophageal cancer occur. The microstructure of cleaned spicules is complex and differes from that of mineral opal and also from tabashir, a plant opal occurring in bamboo, which is a relatively unstructured emulsion of silica particles.

Phalaris canariensis, silica deposits, silicification, hairs, electron microscopy, lectron-probe, microanalysis
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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03/07/2010 11:39 PM
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I would appreciate it if you would not slander us.

For the record...

Silica Spicules in Canary Grass

R. H. NEWMAN and A. L. MACKAY
Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Lincoln's Inn Fields London WC2A 3PX
Department of Crystallography, Birkbeck College Malet Street, London WCIE 7HX

Accepted: 20 July 1983

The hairs occurring on the surface and the persistent bracts of the fruits of canary grass (Phalaris canariensis) consist of opaline silica spicules emerging from the abaxial epidermal cells. They are approx. 500 µm long and taper from a diameter of 15 um at the base to a tip radius of 0.3 µm. These spicules are found in the diet of people living in areas in which very high incidences of oesophageal cancer occur. The microstructure of cleaned spicules is complex and differes from that of mineral opal and also from tabashir, a plant opal occurring in bamboo, which is a relatively unstructured emulsion of silica particles.

Phalaris canariensis, silica deposits, silicification, hairs, electron microscopy, lectron-probe, microanalysis

I suggest you do some additional research
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Anonymous Coward
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03/08/2010 01:32 AM
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Re: Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
If that is the case how come the canaries aren't dying of cancer?
alpiste.com (OP)
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03/11/2010 08:32 PM
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Silica fibers in canary seed promotes carcinogenesis in mouse skin!
Please read:

Biogenic silica fibre promotes carcinogenesis in mouse skin
T. Bhatt 1, M. Coombs 1, C. O'Neill 2
1Chemistry Laboratory, Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Lincoln's Inn Fields, P.O. Box 123, London WC2A 3PX, UK
2Anchorage Laboratory, Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Lincoln's Inn Fields, P.O. Box 123, London WC2A 3PX, UK
ABSTRACT
Silica fibres derived from plants are common contaminants of human diet in certain regions of the world where oesophageal cancer reaches extremely high incidences. We show here that one of these types of fibre (derived from Phalaris, canariensis L) promotes the occurrence of tumours in the skin of mice initiated with a polycyclic carcinogen. Three experiments are described. In the first, the grain which bears these fibres was added to the diet. This did not result in any abnormality in any part of the gastrointestinal tract, but there was a significant induction of tumours in the skin around the mouth and nose; these were the areas of the body surface which most frequently came into contact with the grain. In the second experiment, the mice were separated from the grain by an intervening wire gauze barrier; a similar number of tumours appeared on initiated mice treated in this way. In this case, contact now occurred most frequently on the dorsal surface, which was rubbed against the gauze barrier, and it was on this surface that the tumours appeared. No tumours appeared if the grain was removed. In the third experiment, pure fibres were isolated from the surface of the grain and boiled in strong nitric acid so as to remove any organic material. When these acid-cleaned fibres were applied to the initiated skin with light pressure, they promoted carcinogenesis in the same way as croton oil. In each experiment the majority of tumours produced were benign neoplasms, together with at least one squamous carcinoma. It seems possible that the size and shape of these fibres are the critical properties determining their promoting activity. Their mean diameter is 15 m, their modal length close to 200 m, and they are sharply pointed with a tip diameter of 0.5 m.
Alpiste.com (OP)
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04/28/2010 01:48 AM
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Re: Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
www.alpiste.com

El unico lugar para conseguir puro Alpiste sin silica!

[link to www.alpiste.com]
Anonymous Coward
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10/26/2010 09:04 AM
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If that is the case how come the canaries aren't dying of cancer?
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FKN LOL! Chocolate isn't harmful to humans, so therefore it's TOTALLY ok for dogs, yeah?

Bahahaha idiot.
Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2010 11:40 PM
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Re: Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
I’d like to invite you to please post your irrefutable third party evidence of these unsafe seeds with the “hairs made of 98% silica” on this message board within (5) business days.
 Quoting: carlosglz


[link to www.gov.mb.ca]
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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11/18/2010 09:30 PM
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Re: Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
See above scientific abstract linking Silica hairs in canary seed to esophageal cancer.
David
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05/16/2011 12:27 PM
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I do not see anywhere in those articles mentioned that states that the Silica hairs on the canary seed is linked to cancer. Just because the word tumor and silica are both mentioned in the same article does not mean that there is, as the Alpiste.com people put it: "a direct link" between canary seed and cancer. The only person or organization that I have heard making the statement that a direct link exists between canary seed and cancer are the Alpiste.com folks. No one else. What I have read is an article from a medical journal that they have a hypothesis that people in Northeastern Iran have contracted a higher than normal level of esophogial cancer due to high levels of silica fibers in their bread flour. It took me 3 days to find this one article. Then I proceeded to Google the words "throat cancer Iran", and I was immediately able to find many news and medical articles concerning the link between drinking very hot tea (like they do in Northeastern Iran) and throat cancer. I wonder how many people that eat canary seeds in Northeaster Iran also drink hot tea? Makes me wonder! For more information on all these studies, please feel free to email me at davalos@embarqmail.com
Alpiste.com
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06/07/2011 07:00 PM
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Re: Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
Here are some resources if you would like to start your own research.
[link to onlinelibrary.wiley.com]
[link to pubs.acs.org]
[link to annhyg.oxfordjournals.org]
Anonymous Coward
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06/07/2011 09:00 PM
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Re: Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
spam

hemp ftw

everyone knows canaries grow from eggs
VITACANA
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07/20/2011 11:48 AM
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Re: Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
VITACANA offers the BEST quality Silica-Free Canary seed at the LOWEST PRICE!!
www.vitacana.com
Juan Michael
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08/12/2012 12:09 PM
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Re: Alpiste with silica fibers linked to cancer ?
There are many places to get Alpiste in the U.S. Although there are not many studies nor much information, you can find reviews and testimonials of people who have tried alpiste and find out from the first-hand experience of others. This is the link to a site with review, [link to www.informenatural.com]

The reviews are in spanish but if you use the Google Chrome browser you can click the translate button and it will translate it to the language of your choice.
Alpiste and cilica
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09/21/2012 01:35 PM
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Hello,
There is something that does not make sense to me. Please, explain.
On one side, some people say the silica in bird-seeds (alpiste) is linked to cancer. On another side, diatomaceous earth is silica, and unless it is breathed, if it is ingested, like food, it is supposed to have wonderful properties, such as dewormer, good for joints, etc etc.

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