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This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day.
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Well it worked. Everywhere I look I see tons of people claiming they are abandoning him.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
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Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
Well it worked. Everywhere I look I see tons of people claiming they are abandoning him.
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And the establishment won. Their way of screwing over the American people will get to continue now. Trump was our last hope and now it looks like he will be a one-term President and will not be able to accomplish anything after the mid-terms.
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How long did they work on this disaster? I mean they new we needed a budget wtf were they doing all this time?I haven't even read the bill I'ts so long!
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault.
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I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault.
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^^^^^^^this^^^^^^

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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault.
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I don't think anyone is happy with congress either.
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I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault.
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^^^^^^^this^^^^^^
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How long did they work on this disaster? I mean they new we needed a budget wtf were they doing all this time?I haven't even read the bill I'ts so long!
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Plan A to get rid of Trump was Mueller. Now that the result of the Mueller investigation is in question, they move to Plan B. Nothing matters more than that they keep business as usual in the swamp.
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GLP's main goal from this day forth should not be about

Trump, but about getting Republicans out off the Senate

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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day.
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Deep state still owns the public programming machine and the public still worships it's every word. I tel you now this is an illusion from the mind programming machine.

You are all being trolled and giving them the reaction they wanted. This is the power of tv.

Look at all the tv parroted omnibus threads today, during CNN, NBC, fox...

Don't be their tool. Yes it was designed to divide and conquer, that what they do and like stupid fish the majority jumps on the hook.

I tel you now do not watch tv for a year, the control of media will change by then and truth will be a normally reported.

There is a internal war going on in our country, the bad guys control a lot but the education cartels, health care cartels, etc.. etc.. will go down, it's just not going to be the instant gratification people have been programmed to need.

Wars are not won over night
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault.
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He signed off on it. He is the only one to blame.
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Congressmen on Fox News just said Trump is the worst negotiator he has ever seen...


totally incompetent..

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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


I don't think anyone is happy with congress either.
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They are not happy with Congress but who is the most upset here? Trump's base. They are livid over this and that was the plan all along.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
Congressmen on Fox News just said Trump is the worst negotiator he has ever seen...


totally incompetent..




After just hearing a Republican congressmen say the above

I think we have all been duped by an idiot.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


He signed off on it. He is the only one to blame.
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In a sense they checkmated him. He should have seen this coming.
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Congressmen on Fox News just said Trump is the worst negotiator he has ever seen...


totally incompetent..




After just hearing a Republican congressmen say the above

I think we have all been duped by an idiot.
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Which makes you an idiot.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
He could have vetoed.
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I don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day.
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Trump had the chance to side with his constituency and veto the bill.
They provided the wedge and he drove it in.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day.
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And he was dumb enough to fall for it, that's worrisome, almost as worrisome as his weakening of the 2nd Amendnent, or his tax cuts for the rich, his refusal to reenact glass steagal, oh, it's better than mrs Clinton, but at this point tho, it's just the timetable is different, that's all
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
Congressmen on Fox News just said Trump is the worst negotiator he has ever seen...


totally incompetent..




After just hearing a Republican congressmen say the above

I think we have all been duped by an idiot.
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Which makes you an idiot.
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yes it does
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I'm happy about the separation of the wheat and the tares.
I won't have to deal with Obama or Trump voters in heaven.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
He could have vetoed.
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He should have. He is going to furious when he realizes the full significance of what Ryan and McConnell did to him. Those c*ck suckers.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


I don't think anyone is happy with congress either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75473267

They are not happy with Congress but who is the most upset here? Trump's base. They are livid over this and that was the plan all along.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


You have a good point.

I would add that I have observed several items of interest over the past several weeks such as the Prince of Saudi visit, Bibi's visit, military drills with Israel, Iran deal to expire soon, escalation in Yemen, escalation in Syria, delay of ME peace deal for now, etc.

While I do agree that your point is a good one, I think it may be in combination with the aforementioned paragraph. This approach would kill 2 birds with one stone, so to speak. If the Congress knew that Trump HAD to sign this (because we need war preparation funds right now even if war is not tomorrow, but is forthcoming) it would be a check mate on Trump. Get the base upset and they get their war.

Not saying that my thoughts are absolutely correct. Just interesting events as of late regarding potential war.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I really pisses me off that all the Trump supporters are falling for this and responding exactly the way the establishment hoped they would. Trump is only partially to blame for this. He did not see the establishments plan until it was too late and that is his fault.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


I don't think anyone is happy with congress either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75473267

They are not happy with Congress but who is the most upset here? Trump's base. They are livid over this and that was the plan all along.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


You have a good point.

I would add that I have observed several items of interest over the past several weeks such as the Prince of Saudi visit, Bibi's visit, military drills with Israel, Iran deal to expire soon, escalation in Yemen, escalation in Syria, delay of ME peace deal for now, etc.

While I do agree that your point is a good one, I think it may be in combination with the aforementioned paragraph. This approach would kill 2 birds with one stone, so to speak. If the Congress knew that Trump HAD to sign this (because we need war preparation funds right now even if war is not tomorrow, but is forthcoming) it would be a check mate on Trump. Get the base upset and they get their war.

Not saying that my thoughts are absolutely correct. Just interesting events as of late regarding potential war.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon

I do think war is coming and there is little that can be done to stop it. Trump realizes this too.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


It was a big middle finger to Trump voters and a major bitch slap to Trump from Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer.

They are probably laughing their asses off right now while popping the cork on the champagne.
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I don't think anyone is happy with congress either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75473267

They are not happy with Congress but who is the most upset here? Trump's base. They are livid over this and that was the plan all along.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


You have a good point.

I would add that I have observed several items of interest over the past several weeks such as the Prince of Saudi visit, Bibi's visit, military drills with Israel, Iran deal to expire soon, escalation in Yemen, escalation in Syria, delay of ME peace deal for now, etc.

While I do agree that your point is a good one, I think it may be in combination with the aforementioned paragraph. This approach would kill 2 birds with one stone, so to speak. If the Congress knew that Trump HAD to sign this (because we need war preparation funds right now even if war is not tomorrow, but is forthcoming) it would be a check mate on Trump. Get the base upset and they get their war.

Not saying that my thoughts are absolutely correct. Just interesting events as of late regarding potential war.
 Quoting: Laughing Falcon

I do think war is coming and there is little that can be done to stop it. Trump realizes this too.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


I think that you are right. Trump knows that it is unavoidable. Some of the reasons are because war mongers have been working to make sure war happens. Some of it is a natural occurrence given the world circumstances which are not orchestrated.

Combination.

Tough spot to be in for a President. It appears that Trump's hand was forced.

If he was fooled, shame on him. If he is broken because there is something we do not know that has to do with war, I pity him.

Either way, it would suck to be Trump right now.
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Re: This omnibus bill was the establishments way of driving a wedge between Trump and his base
I don't think Trump even understands the full significance of what the establishment has just done to him. He is probably starting to understand and that was why he put out the veto threat. Keep in mind the establishment wants nothing more than for Trump and his supporters to go away so they can continue to run the show like they always have. They don't really care if Republicans lose in the mid-terms. The establishment and their way of operating the government is way more important to them than either side losing or winning a few members. This bill was DESIGNED to be a huge FU to Trump voters. I guarantee you establishment Republicans and Dems are celebrating tonight because they have finally succeeded in driving a wedge between Trump and his base. It is a sad day.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


It was a big middle finger to Trump voters and a major bitch slap to Trump from Ryan, McConnell, Pelosi, and Schumer.

They are probably laughing their asses off right now while popping the cork on the champagne.
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Ryan and McConnell should be strung up by their testicles. They just f*ck their own party and President out of loyalty to the establishment.
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stop making excuses
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It is the reality of what just happened. But idiots like you will follow the script that the establishment wrote out for you. They win. You lose.
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When we get nuked you will still make excuses for them.





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