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Can someone be a 33rd DEGREE MASON and NOT know they are giving their allegiance to Lucifer?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 6472082:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDcyODU0X0U3ODI4QzNF] [quote:Anonymous Coward 6409369:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDcyNzU1XzlCRDlGQjk1] [quote:Anonymous Coward 6472082:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDcyNjQ1XzgzMDBBMEUz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 6409369:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDcyNTUzXzcxM0U4QUNF] [quote:Archaic Mason:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDcyNDY3XzVDQkM3NzIz] [quote:Anonymous Coward 6409369:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDcyNDM3XzIxQ0I4MzY2] [quote:Archaic Mason:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDcyNDA3X0FFNkQwQTU=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 6409369:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDcyMzcxX0E5OEJGNUQy] [quote:Archaic Mason:MV8xNzIwNzM3XzI4NDcyMzA0Xzk2QTA5NzlB] Lucifer - Light Bringer. Fail. [/quote] Why don't you "illuminate" me. I am simply trying to understand. [/quote] What would you like clarification with? [/quote] What does Lucifer mean to a FreeMason? Is he the "Supreme Being" referred to in the oaths? [/quote] Lucifer - Light Bearer Supreme Being - Grand Architect of the Universe Not one in the same. Anything can be a "lucifer." Lucifer became antiquated with Satan, and poof - people think everyone's a devil worshipper. [/quote] When I look up the word "Lucifer", here is what I find: Lu·ci·fer (ls-fr)n. 1. The archangel cast from heaven for leading the revolt of the angels; Satan. 2. The planet Venus in its appearance as the morning star. 3. lucifer A friction match. Now maybe I am missing something here but by the above definition, I am not getting "light bearer" as you are or have been led to believe. Also, just out of curiosity, what reaction does the name "Jesus Christ" receive in your local Lodge and curious if that name gets much mention at all? [/quote] Once again, please read this webpage: http://www.lds-mormon.com/lucifer.shtml If you actually read it, you might understand this subject. [/quote] I read your link and can only say that we will have to agree to disagree. Satan's greatest trick here has been to convince the world that he doesn't exist. He is very proud of his followers in the Mormon "cult". As you might have noticed, I personally choose not to believe the Mormons could teach me ANYTHING remotely pertaining to the "Truth" when they themselves fail to see that their own religion is about become gods (little "g") and going to rule their own planets when they die (tell me where I can find THAT in the actual Bible (and not Joseph Smith version of it!). Not to mention their founder, Joseph Smith, lacked the discernment to know that the "angel" that gave him his book in the cave was anything but! Sorry...the upside to praying for God to impart His discernment and wisdom, is that HE DOES...and I can see the Mormon church for what it is and not what we are TOLD to think it is. [/quote] Good grief! Fine, don't believe the Mormons. There is a lot of information on this subject online. Search for [b]Lucifer the bearer of light[/b]. But somehow, I suspect you just do not want to know the truth about this. Hey, it's a free country, so feel free to believe whatever you want. Sorry if I sounded harsh, but I don't have a lot of patience with willful ignorance. [/quote]
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I live in a rural county in the Appalachian mountains. I attend a small country church. In our community is a large "lodge" following and I have noticed alot of square and compass
on license plates and window decals. Even in our church parking lot, I have seen a couple of masonic license plates.
A few Sundays ago, I noticed a man wearing a masonic "G" ring. His wife and I are in the choir together and this man is a church leader. I asked her today at church what rank her husband is in the masons and she said "33rd degree". Then she went on to tell me of several other leaders in this little church that are also 33rd degrees masons and their wives (who teach Sunday school and lead the music at the church) are members of the local "Eastern Star" Charter of the masons.
Now, I am no ordinary country hillbilly. I have a law degree and my family moved here 5 years ago from a city in the South as our "bugout" (you might say). We have adapted to our community in a way that we would be perceived as "locals" when the shtf and not as a "resource" (if you get my meaning). So right away we plugged in to a local church and got involved in our community.
I have spent the last 2-3 years researching the history of the freemasons and have learned through my research that we are talking about some of the most sinster schemers in all of American history and dating back to the Knights Templar and beyond. I have alot of trouble believing anyone higher than a 13th degree mason can continue to operate under the assumption that the masons are a Christian organization. (It is the 13th degree that they are initiated into an allegiance with "Jabulon").
Until today, I was absolutely certain that there is NO WAY you achieve 33rd degree status as a Freemason and NOT know you have made your allegiance to Lucifer (even if up to that point you still believed Jesus Christ was the "Supreme Being" referred to). In fact, it is upon becoming a 33rd degree mason that you are given a copy of the book "Morals and Dogma" by Albert Pike (some have access to this book sooner if mason involvement is a family tradition). Anyone who has cracked the binder on that book knows for certain that Lucifer is the object of their affection so no one will convinced me that they DON'T know.
However, I was "thrown for a loop" to find out so many at our local country church were such high level masons (and we have a small church). Either they KNOW and are infiltrating the church or they are too simple minded (or brainwashed) to grasp the sinister nature of their organization. I cannot imagine that these people realize what they are involved in or they themselves would be as shocked as myself!
So I ask anyone here, do you think it is possible that they DON'T know? Could a local rural chapter such as this be brainwashed into believing that their organization is Christian even up to the highest level of membership? Could some Freemason Lodge Chapters be completely and utterly sinister, evil and into pagan idolatry while your smaller, country chapters view it as a branch of their local churches and nothing more than a "Christian charitable organization"?
I am truly stumped at the moment!
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