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Subject Real DOOM!?! Nibiru, Planet X, Nemesis, Asteriods!?! Please Help!!! Could this Explain ALOT!?!

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Assuming this is a serious question and you are not a troll:

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4X0VGRDBBOTM5]
If a white dwarf star, goes super nova before turning into a red giant, ...
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This is not the way stars develop: star -> red giant -> white dwarf -> black dwarf.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4X0VGRDBBOTM5]
... wouldn't it blast out very heavy chunks of material/debris? 
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Yes, it would: a lot of gas but no dense material like iron or stony chunks.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4X0VGRDBBOTM5]
If a piece of a white dwarf star the size of a teaspoon can weigh an estimated 5-6 tons plus. How do we know that something small that weighs millions, billions or trillions of lbs. could not be producing all the strange effects on our planet and in our solar system?
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Quite easy: Something, that weighs millions, billions or trillions of lbs would affect the orbits of all planets in a big scale. That this is not the case is shown by moon and solar eclipses calculated decades ago or by the upcoming Venus transit.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4X0VGRDBBOTM5]
Could the earths dark binary star be the size of a small city and weigh the same as earth? How do we know that the Tunguska impact wasn't caused by something the size of a marble? Does size matter at all, if we don't know the composition of a object? Could a small asteriod actually weigh enough to cause earthquakes on earth? A small meteor the size of a baseball could take out an entire city or worse and we would never see it coming! It could come as a thief in the night!
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No, there is a minimum mass for a white dwarf (~ 0.25 M-Sun) and thus a minimum size. A white dwarf the size of a baseball or even a big asteroid is not possible.
Besides, a white dwarf at 0.25 M-Sun would be easy detectable: X-ray, UV, visible, IR and gravitational influence.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4MjkyXzE0NDA1MzVG]
On the 27th of this month 2 asteriods were found that are 23 meters and 8 meters across, they passed by Earth at .1 Ld and .05 LD, on the 28th and the 29th, ..... My point was that what if they weighed as much as a piece of a white dwarf, they would effect earth, and why is this not possible.
...or tell me why this is not possible. 
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See above.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4MjkyXzE0NDA1MzVG]
White dwarfs exsist, ...
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Yes.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4MjkyXzE0NDA1MzVG]
... and they do explode.
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No - they just cool down until 0° Kelvin (black dwarf). Since this process takes longer than the universe til now exists, there are no white dwarfs cooler than ~ 4000 K.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4NDAyX0MxMEY5NEE0]
Okay, So when a white dwarf goes super nova, and explodes, ...
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A white dwarf does not go supernova and explode - see above.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4NDAyX0MxMEY5NEE0]
... are you saying that it just disintegrates into nothing and disappears?
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Who said this?

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4NDAyX0MxMEY5NEE0]
The hubble telescopes show something totally different. Every picture of a super nova that I have seen show stuff shooting out for millions of light years.
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The nebula you see is expanding gas, not debris.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4NDAyX0MxMEY5NEE0]
Why couldn't pieces end up orbiting our sun?
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Because there is no nebula / supernova close to us.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4NDAyX0MxMEY5NEE0]
Or even create our kuiper belt,...
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The kuiper belt is a remnant from the formation of our solar system - nothing from outside.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4NDAyX0MxMEY5NEE0]
Plus from the NASA site, they are supposedly made up of carbon, so how big of a electromagnetic signature would something the size of a 600 ton baseball have? Let alone a 6 ton marble? What if something the size of a basketball killed off the dinosaurs?
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The inner core of a white dwarf is indeed made mostly of carbon, but in a state, that radiates a lot of radiaton in different wavelength from x-rays to far infrared - not to mention the gravitational effects.
And as mentioned above: a basball or marble like white dwarf is not possible.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4NDY0XzdFMzY5NjE3]
Did your telescope work after the earths axis shifted after the last 2 big earthquakes? Or did it recalibrate, just like every GPS unit on the planet?
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Not all GoTo telescops are GPS aided telescopes. Indeed most of them are not - and most owners never updated the firmware. And still they work properly.
But make the calculation: The axis tilted by some inches - how many milliarcseconds are this.
BTW: The 9.0 quake, that produced the tsunami in 2004 tilted the axis by ~1.6 inch. The 8.6 quake in March 2005 in the same region tilted it by ~1.2 inch - but in the opposite direction. Over the years the over all movement is negligible.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4NTIxXzZCRjJDREFC]
This gets into the asteriod/earthquake correlation; http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1873765/pg1
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Even if Truthwalker thinks so - there is no correlation between earthquakes and asteroids. It's within the statistics.
And his orbit calculations of past events are way of because he uses the 2-body-model instead of the Horizon app.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4Njc3X0ZEQTAyMjgy]
You are correct I do not know everything, and I have never claimed too.
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There are sources like wikipedia where you expand your kowledge. Even if you doubt this sources - they give you basic ideas how things work.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4Njc3X0ZEQTAyMjgy]
I was asking if it was possible.
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No.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4Njc3X0ZEQTAyMjgy]
I thought thats how new ideas were born, I didn't know we had everything in space figured out already.
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No, scientists don't have everything in space figured out already. But the theories they have, fit best with what they observe. New theories are always welcome - but they must also fit.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4Njc3X0ZEQTAyMjgy]
I thought that the mainstream news has been running articles about a possible new discovery of a new planet in or around our solar system.
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It's not a discovery - it's just a theory. And its not new, it's old news in new clothes: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1880873/pg7#31430728

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4Njc3X0ZEQTAyMjgy]
I believe the irregular orbit of Neptune ...
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There are no irregularities in Neptuns orbit - they initialy calculated the mass of Neptun slightly incorrect. From satellite flybys the found the correct mass and could rule out any irregularity.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4Njc3X0ZEQTAyMjgy]
... and the comets coming out of the kuiper belt that shouldn't be coming from there,unless there is a object pushing or pulling them out of orbit and sending them into the inner solar system has NASA stumped.
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May be there is a havy object in or near the Oorts cloud one lightyear or more away.
May be during the early solar system a star passed close to the solar system. But this is long time ago.
Comets from the Oorts cloud need millions of years until the are in the inner solar system - thus these events happened millions of years ago.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4Njc3X0ZEQTAyMjgy]
Can you look through your telescope and find me a baseball or marble?
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No - because they can't exist - see above.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4Njc3X0ZEQTAyMjgy]
Maybe the magnetic fluff that the solar system is going thru has stopped you from thinking.
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Our solar system is already in the "magnetic fluff" - since some 10,000 years.

[quote:TOMMY B:MV8xODg2Nzg4XzMxNTA4Njc3X0ZEQTAyMjgy]
Sure seems like something strange is going on with this planet.
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No, nothing strange - it's just the natural variability of the nature.

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Thanks for the input bud, but from everything I learned from what you explained, and where you sent me to research, I think this makes more sense now. If your still around I did a bunch of editing, please give this a quick re-read, and comment again. Just please try to keep an open mind.:peace:TY
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Original Message Serious questions folks! If a piece of a white dwarf star, the core of a red giant the size of a teaspoon can weigh an estimated 5-6 tons plus. How do we know that something that small weighing millions,billions or trillions of lbs. could not be producing all the strange effects on our planet and in our solar system? Could something like this be lurking in our, or just outside our solar system? Or be our earth's binary twin.If a red giant, which makes the core of a white dwarf, during nuclear fusion, and the red giant does go supernova, wouldn't it blast out very heavy chunks of material/debris? Its core? These pieces are what I'm asking about.Could the earths dark binary star be the size of a small city and weigh the same as or more then earth? How do we know that the Tunguska impact wasn't caused by something the size of a marble? Does size matter at all, if we don't know the composition of a object? Could a small asteriod,(small piece from the explosion)actually weigh enough to cause earthquakes on earth or be earths binary twin? A small meteor the size of a baseball could take out an entire city or worse and we would never see it coming! It could come as a thief in the night! Thanks all, input wanted!!! Some pics of supernovas, white dwarfs and red giants. [link to www.space.com] [link to www.space.com]

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