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Can a born again Christian lose their salvation??
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 5392:MV8xOTE5NTFfMzcwMTYzNF9BNEE5MkVDNw==] The faithful Christian may at some time lapse or fall into sin because of weakness or being misled, but he “does not carry on sin,” continuing to walk in it. ______________________________________ This thread is mainly for those who have been born again of the Holy Spirit, because only then is the Truth dwelling inside your spirit. But thanks for all other comments as terms for discussion and they are welcome from everyone. Yes being misled and weakness are present when sin is at the door, but what are those who fall into sin being misead with and how is there weakness able to defeat them?? The bottom line is that the only thing that makes a Christian choose to sin is rebellion. Rebellion uses the letter of the law to tempt a christian into sin. So it is quite unfair to say that a faithful christian can ever fall into sin. As true faith is only in grace through Christ, and not in the letter of the law. So Christ nailed the law to the cross with Himself in order that His chosen would not be able to ever be in rebellion and sin again before Him. The strength of sin is in the law. 1 Corinthians 15 55 “ O Death, where is your sting? O Hades, where is your victory?” 56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. Colossians 2 13 And you, being dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, He has made alive together with Him, having forgiven you all trespasses, 14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross. 15 Having disarmed principalities and powers, He made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them in it. 16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Verse 15 holds the key to the victory over sin we have in Christ, He disarmed the strength of sin, and triumphed over it, and He disarmed the strength of sin by nailing the letter of legalism to the cross with Him in death. The passage to go on about the basic principles of the world which are the knowledge of good and evil and the measurement of judgement we aquire by being under this curse. The letter of the law is rooted in the knowledge of good and evil. And when someone uses this measurement as their standard of righteousness, all the power to defeat sin is within themselves, and I can pretty much guarantee that satan has a bag of tricks with your name on it that he can deceive you with if you are relying on your own strength to gain the victory. But Paul says 'When I am weak, then I am strong" 2 Corinthians 12:9-11 9 And He said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for My strength is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore most gladly I will rather boast in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. 10 Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in needs, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ’s sake. For when I am weak, then I am strong. When Paul claimed that He was strong when he was weak it was only because Paul understood the power of the sufficient grace Christ proclaimed to him, over our own abilities to perform in righteousness. Paul was looking to Christ's righteousness and not his own shortcomings and inabilities to deal with his thorn in his side. Now if someone is weak and rebels from grace and places themselves under the letter of self-righteous ability, They will be focused on themselves and their failure. Condemnation now has an inroad to accuse them before God. And it is only because of the curse of the knowledge tree of good and evil that this condemnation can exist. This may seem off topic of thread but the foundation of the power of righteousness through grace must be founded completely in Christ alone and not in our selves. [/quote]
Original Message
1 John 3:9
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
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