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Tell me what 'religion' YOU think the TPTB follow ?
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[quote:Anonymous Coward 25784525:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk4OTQxX0U2MTM3NEFC] [quote:Manu-Koelbren:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk4ODE0X0VBQ0MxRTU2] [quote:Anonymous Coward 25784525:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk4NzI2XzI0QjM2Qjg0] [quote:Manu-Koelbren:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk4Mzk1XzU5NDc0QjI5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 25784525:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk4MjYwX0FGNzdDOTVF] [quote:Manu-Koelbren:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk4MDk4XzI1QjA4OUNE] [quote:Anonymous Coward 25784525:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk3OTY5XzgyOUQ4RTRE] [quote:Manu-Koelbren:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk3NjQ1X0IyNDFFN0Q5] [quote:Anonymous Coward 25784525:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk3NTYwX0YyNUJDRjhE] [quote:Manu-Koelbren:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk3MzcyXzFDM0UzNTI=] [quote:Anonymous Coward 25784525:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk3MzI1X0UyRDA4MkI0] [quote:Manu-Koelbren:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk3MTYyXzFCNUMwNjdE] [quote:Anonymous Coward 25784525:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk3MDk2XzlBNkJCNDlD] [quote:Brad Daylight:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1Nzk2NzM1XzQ0N0U3QzRD] [quote:10193131:MV8yMTIxNjI5XzM1NzkzNjI5XzYyQ0Y5QjIz] [quote:Cleanhomes:MV8yMTIxNjI5X0EyN0E3MDVG] And don't just answer santanism either please. Just want to see if I'm correct with my own theories :) [/quote] I don't know any other way to say it than that they follow pure Satanism. They don't follow LaVeyan Satanism either. The actual Jesuit based, old world Bavarian Illuminati follow the Babylonian Mysterium Iniquitatus exactly as it is laid out in Revelation. The Illuminati use the Bible as their guide. They are the bringers of the false light, the fallen star, the averse mystery of iniquity. They use the Bible. Not the Satanic Bible, the King James Bible and all other versions of the Holy Bible. [/quote] This makes sense because they are playing it out just like how the Bible says. But it is God's will for this to happen, soon the Great Tribulation will come, and it will pass. Then all the humans of the earth will be judged, and then there won't be any more evil, ever again. :hf: God bless [/quote] This is wishful thinking, and a widely held christian belief... Designed to keep you in the game... It is not going down this way... Better to spiral out, away from the trappings of this planet, both the physical and astral realms... [/quote] You're interesting, what do you mean exactly with "spiral out"? How can you possibly spiral out when you're trapped in a downward spiral? The only way you will end up is either working in a ditch or dead in it. But however do let me have your perspective of it. [/quote] The spiral out I am talking about is not a body related thing... It is a spiritual recognition of who you really are, and you are a spirit stream animating a body for experiences... It is recognising, I can leave anytime I want, unburdened by religious dogma, and past the many astral traps around this planet... What was an adventure, has now become a pain in the ass... Time to move on... Spiral away!!!! [/quote] Do the spiritual entities up there in the astral realm take kindly on those who opt out of their responsibilities? have you ever pondered why were here in the first place? Maybe could it be that we're meant to struggle? If you look around that seems to be the clear sign stamped on everything, struggle and evolve, or perish. There might be a physical evolution/perishing and a spiritual one, but we're only certain of the first. [/quote] Let's put it this way - depends on where you go... If it happens to be a group holding on to their religious dogma, and there are many, with ALL beLIEf systems represented...Then probably they would not look kindly upon me... But, I have no intentions of visiting them... I will be moving fast and way beyond them... As to your spiritual perishing question - No, the real you cannot perish...No matter what you do, you continue... The big lie of religion, as it is intended to bind you in the physical, and the astral... [/quote] Well I can't corroborate any of what you say, but from a philosophical standpoint let me ask you this, if we're spiritual entities incarnated into physical bodies, wouldn't that be with a purpose? Now look around in the physical world, what do you see? is this not a whole struggle against undesirable tendencies that push from every side trying to prevent humanity from improving? Doesn't it seem that we're placed here under these circumstances to be stimulated into taking a certain responsibility in improving our lot? Then what kind of positive outcome could it be that when placed in this environment one would seek to "spiral out"? If there's indeed a great purpose to this life it must be to improve upon what we're given, and if there's no great purpose then it wouldn't hurt anyway. [/quote] Yes, of course we are incarnated with a purpose, and that purpose is driven by the one, your soul, that sent out your spirit stream to animate your body... This galaxy is a duality by design creation... It exists for experiential learning... Your soul/higher self/god or what ever term you wish to call it, participates by projecting spirit streams to animate bodies in a wide variety of circumstances... You are an individual player in a sea of other players trying to pull you into their paradigm for a strength by numbers control group... They generally do it with polarity approaches - Lightsider, guilt... Darksider - do it, because I say so... Eventually your higher self will tire of this, and set out on a new path, with the intentions of graduating leaving the scene... The incarnations have completely different objectives, and this is where I am at... It is information that you would only know if you were on the path, and a key player in the spiral... It is not about group consensus, never was... It is monotheism, in a polytheistic galaxy... [/quote] Hey I want out too, the only problem is that you don't get a pass out of this hellhole by refusing to participate. The laws of karma don't operate in that way. Anyway good post man, I enjoyed it. [/quote] Karma is a belief system, and only operates if you believe it does... For now, while you are in the body, you have to participate, and you would not be here if your higher self did not want you to gain experiences... Just remember, when you do leave, you are not bound by anyone's belief system... [/quote] Karma is a name for the law of cause and effect, and believe me my friend, cause and effect is NOT a belief system, it's a very real and tangible thing, it just affects more than what meets the eye initially. But despite this I do agree mostly with you, yet the issue is that abstaining from participation doesn't seem to be a very viable option in this realm. If we were meant to get out of here by reclusion in a cave through all of our lives we might as well just don't come in the first place. Probably if you think you need to stay away from any worldly happening, however wise you consider yourself to be, you might find yourself here again to your certain disgust. i might be assuming however because although you have said that your goal is to spiral out, you haven't made it perfectly clear how you think this is to carried out, Am I right? More precisely, what is the correct stance you think one must take to worldly events in order to "spiral out" eventually? (sorry for all the edits) [/quote] Karma, or cause and effect, is instant... It does not carry on unless you wish it to... No, you cannot abstain from participation - you are here to participate... The crucial factor - where is your mindset, while participating... For me, my mind is on watching, guaging people, and watching the polaric moves of governments and corporations... This I combine with other information I have, that strengthens my spiraling ways... My time for exit is set - this does not mean, it is a graduation spiral, that is up to me and the key incarnations of me... I don't think this will totally make sense to you - but it is food for your thought, and you seem to be intelligent... [/quote] Well I don't claim to have the definite word in metaphysical issues. I seem to come from a slightly different current than yours but surely I find your perspective very interesting. [/quote] Good chatting with you... I have to leave now, bed time... I have to participate tomorrow... LOL.. [/quote]
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And don't just answer santanism either please.
Just want to see if I'm correct with my own theories :)
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