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[quote:Anonymous Coward 2312772:MV8yMTg3MTA3XzQxNjk5NDQzX0NENDA3QUE1] [quote:Anonymous Coward 50263310:MV8yMTg3MTA3XzQxNjkwNjA0XzQ5QzRCMUU2] [quote:Jesus Christ is the way:MV8yMTg3MTA3XzQxNjg1MDY1XzY2QUE4M0M2] [quote:PehJeshuah 50460689:MV8yMTg3MTA3XzQxNjg0MzA4X0Y0QkI4MUMx] [quote:Jesus Christ is the way:MV8yMTg3MTA3XzQxNjgzOTA5XzEzRkMwQzM4] [quote:PehJeshuah 50460689:MV8yMTg3MTA3XzQxNjgzODA3X0Y1ODY0QjA4] [quote:Jesus Christ is the way:MV8yMTg3MTA3XzQxNjgzNTQ3Xzk5MzIxRDVG] [quote:PehJeshuah 49953512:MV8yMTg3MTA3XzQxNDkzNjE4XzYxNEMyNjk=] [quote:waterman:MV8yMTg3MTA3XzFENjA2RTIy] The Branch is the 2 witnesses of Revelation :nuclear: No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch" One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest" Zechariah 6:12-13 King James Version (KJV) 12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is [b]The Branch[/b]; and he shall grow up out of his place, and [b]he shall build the temple of the Lord:[/b] 13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be [b]a priest upon his throne[/b]: and the counsel of peace shall be between [b]them both[/b]. The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is [b]Joshua the priest[/b] and [b]Zerubbabel the head of the tribe of Judah[/b] building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest [b]Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch [/b] Jeremiah 23:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David [b]a righteous Branch[/b], and a [b]King[/b] shall reign and prosper, and shall execute [b]judgment[/b] and [b]justice(righteousness)[/b] in the earth. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby [b]"he"[/b] shall be called, [b]The Lord Our Righteousness[/b]. [b]Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch [/b]...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth. 15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause [b]the Branch of righteousness[/b] to grow up unto David; and he shall execute [b]judgment[/b] and [b]righteousness[/b] in the land. 16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith [b]"she"[/b] shall be called, [b]The Lord our righteousness[/b]. 17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne[b](King)[/b] of the house of Israel; 18 Neither shall the [b]priests[/b] the Levites want [b]a man[/b] before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually. Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon) King James Version (KJV) 72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son. Notice the "Branch" executes "[b]Judgement[/b] and [b]righteousness[/b]" The king thy [b]judgement[/b] and the kings son thy [b]righteousness[/b]" The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel [/quote] Why can you not shut up and stop your stupid posts? Jesus is the Branch, namely first and foremost in his man child through whom He returns to fight and destroy the Antichrist. Otherwise He is definitely not a branch but the stem and the TREE OF LIFE. But, since He is the life in the branches it is possible to say that he is the Branch, otherwise not. Greetings from PehJeshuah [/quote] You are the one that is stupid. Your soapbox that you shout from is looking pretty rickety. Here's more scripture for you to argue with. That should speak volumes like everything I have confronted your perversion with. From biblegateway.com NIV John 15:The Vine and the Branches 15[b] “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful.[/b] 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. 5 [b]“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. [/b]7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples. I think Jesus Christ means it. He called himself a vine twice in that passage and not only that but the "TRUE" vine. These words are not uttered by me, but words for the flock to live by from our Savior. So do you argue with Jesus Christ as to what he is? In reference to jeremiah 23, Zerubabbel is shown half the branch because of this. Here's where God talks about Judah being separated from the rest. Zechariah 11: 14 Then I broke my second staff called Union, breaking the family bond between Judah and Israel. Now read the next passage where the tribes are reunited eternally. From biblegateway.com Ezekiel 37:One Nation Under One King 15 The word of the Lord came to me: 16 “Son of man, take a stick of wood and write on it, ‘Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.’ Then take another stick of wood, and write on it, ‘Belonging to Joseph (that is, to Ephraim) and all the Israelites associated with him.’ 17 Join them together into one stick so that they will become one in your hand. 18 “When your people ask you, ‘Won’t you tell us what you mean by this?’ 19 say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am going to take the stick of Joseph—which is in Ephraim’s hand—and of the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah’s stick. I will make them into a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.’ 20 Hold before their eyes the sticks you have written on 21 and say to them, ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms. 23 They will no longer defile themselves with their idols and vile images or with any of their offenses, for I will save them from all their sinful backsliding,[b] and I will cleanse them. They will be my people, and I will be their God. Here's where God talks about Judah being separated from the rest. Zechariah 11: 14 Then I broke my second staff called Union, breaking the family bond between Judah and Israel. This is why Christ is the vine. These are branches. From Revelation 7:4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel. 5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed, from the tribe of Reuben 12,000, from the tribe of Gad 12,000, 6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000, from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000, from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000, 7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000, from the tribe of Levi 12,000, from the tribe of Issachar 12,000, 8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000, from the tribe of Joseph 12,000, [i]Notice the remnants of Ephraim have been merged from the prophecy uttered by God in Ezekiel 37.[/i] from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000 [/quote] Well then, will you in short words explain to people on GLP and me why you mean that I am stupid? As regards Zech 11:14, I hope you admit it to happen in NT time. So, where is historical Israel? Greetings from PehJeshuah Please, if you can, prove that I am so stupid as you say, in spite of me already having proved you wrong? Do you want me to bring it up to your shame what you have said of great stupidity earlier, or what is your aim in your blindness of not realizing that God's true witness is opposing you? Take the bite and grind your teeth, if you dare! Greetings from PehJeshuah [/quote] Jesus Christ is the one calling himself a vine and a "TRUE" vine at that. What's your argument with? The word? How much more ignorance and arrogance can you present to do that? As far as historical Israel is concerned, how do you decide what to do with it? If the Kingdoms of the world are made the Kingdom of God at the 7th trumpet then how do you explain the flesh being put back on the valley of bones in Ezekiel 37 when flesh and blood cannot enter the Kingdom of God? But... they are clearly made flesh again..... and man is appointed to die only once. And he calls these people his people, Israel. [/quote] Why do you ask me whom you say is so stupid? Those who are of God knows that there is only ONE tree of life, and nevertheless there are mentioned many trees of life in Rev 22:2: [quote: The Bible](...) on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits[/quote] If Jesus Christ is just the only tree of life how can he be so many trees of life on either side of the river, as seen in Rev 22:2? So, again I ask you, if He is the "netzer", or branch, in Isa 11:1, how can He be the stem? If you have any good answer to me, who you call stupid, then come on! Greetings from PehJeshuah [/quote] You remind of the fat kid who couldn't play dodge ball very well in grade school. He could dish it out, but he couldn't take it. Here's where God talks about "a" tree of life. From biblegateway.com NIV To the Church in Ephesus Revelation 2 “To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: These are the words of him who holds the seven stars in his right hand and walks among the seven golden lampstands. 2 I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked people, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. 3 You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary. 4 Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken the love you had at first. 5 Consider how far you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place. 6 But you have this in your favor: You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. 7 Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. [b]To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.[/b] [i]Note the tree of life was also in the middle of the Garden of Eden.[/i] Again a singular interpretation from Genesis 2:8 Now the Lord God had planted a garden in the east, in Eden; and there he put the man he had formed. 9 The Lord God made all kinds of trees grow out of the ground—trees that were pleasing to the eye and good for food. [b]In the middle of the garden were the tree of life[/b] and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The Trees of Life are in New Jerusalem are on both sides of the river of life. That is a different realm. Old Heaven and earth flee. Revelation 22 Then the angel showed me the river of the water of life, as clear as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb 2 down the middle of the great street of the city. [b]On each side of the river stood the tree of life[/b], bearing twelve crops of fruit, yielding its fruit every month. And the leaves of the tree are for the healing of the nations. As far as Isaiah 11:1 is concerned, what is the truth, the life and the way? Who spoke in John 15? The first reference is to a dead olive tree. The new life comes from the root. It springs forth. There is a reason that Christ prayed at Mount of Olives often, why the Olivet Discourse was given, why it is the first tree mentioned in the parable of the trees in Judges 9 and why the two witnesses are referred to as two olive trees and lampstands. Olive oil has no smell when burning. It cannot light without a wick. It goes out when the lamp is turned over. The olive tree typically last 70 years. From Christ' birth to the destruction of the second temple was 70 years. From 1948 to 2018 is 70 years as well. How long was babylonian occupation? [/quote] Trees are people. People are trees. [/quote] If you think so, then this part of the bible should be of particular interest to you. Apparently, certain things hold the thoughts of men. This was declared from the Mount Gerizim (means mountain of shame). Note the fig speaks at [b][u]9:11[/u][/b]. "Hangover 3" had a restaurant named "fig and olive" and the character at the end looked like baphomet as a hermaphrodite. http://www.caughtonset.com/category/the-hangover-3/ From biblegateway.com Judges 9 The Parable of the Trees 7 Now when they told Jotham, he went and stood on top of Mount Gerizim, and lifted his voice and cried out. And he said to them: “Listen to me, you men of Shechem, That God may listen to you! 8 “The trees once went forth to anoint a king over them. And they said to the olive tree, ‘Reign over us!’ 9 But the olive tree said to them, ‘Should I cease giving my oil, With which they honor God and men, And go to sway over trees?’ 10 “Then the trees said to the fig tree, ‘You come and reign over us!’ 11 But the fig tree said to them, ‘Should I cease my sweetness and my good fruit, And go to sway over trees?’ Matthew 21: Jesus Curses a Fig Tree 18 Early in the morning, as Jesus was on his way back to the city, he was hungry. 19 Seeing a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. Then he said to it, “May you never bear fruit again!” Immediately the tree withered. 20 When the disciples saw this, they were amazed. “How did the fig tree wither so quickly?” they asked. 21 Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. 22 If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer.” Did Christ kill the root of evil by turning the Temple's moneychangers tables over the day before? The love of money is the root of evil which would be on what tree? Tree of knowledge? DId Christ go back to the beginning where Adam and Eve took the original sin from? I think so. Realize he spoke to a tree and the disciples heard it and recorded it in two different gospels. Witnesses work in tandem at least. Back to Judges 9 12 “Then the trees said to the vine, ‘You come and reign over us!’ 13 But the [u]vine[/u] said to them, ‘Should I cease my new wine, Which cheers both God and men, And go to sway over trees?’ Hmmm... from Matthew 26: 27 Then he took a cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is my blood of the[b] covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins. 29 [b]I tell you, I will not drink from this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”[/b] 30 When they had sung a hymn, they went out to the [b]Mount of Olives[/b]. Now back to Judges 9 14 “Then all the trees said to the bramble, ‘You come and reign over us!’ 15 And the bramble said to the trees, ‘If in truth you anoint me as king over you, Then come and take shelter in my shade; But if not, let fire come out of the bramble And devour the cedars of Lebanon!’ Exodus 3:Moses and the Burning Bush Now Moses was tending the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian, and he led the flock to the far side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 There the angel of the Lord appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up. 3 So Moses thought, “I will go over and see this strange sight—why the bush does not burn up.” Did the cleansing process in the restoration of the Kingdom start then? [/quote]
Original Message
The Branch is the 2 witnesses of Revelation
No where is Jesus ever mentioned as being a "Branch"..Jesus is always the "Vine"....the 2 witnesses are the "Branch"
One witness is a "king" and the other is a "priest"
Zechariah 6:12-13
King James Version (KJV)
12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is
The Branch
; and he shall grow up out of his place, and
he shall build the temple of the Lord:
13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be
a priest upon his throne
: and the counsel of peace shall be between
them both
.
The Branch is clearly the one building the temple of the Lord and in the book of Zechariah it is
Joshua the priest
and
Zerubbabel the head of the tribe of Judah
building the temple and the counsel of peace shall be between the king and the priest
Jeremiah 23 shows the Zerubbabel half of the Branch
Jeremiah 23:5-6
King James Version (KJV)
5 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David
a righteous Branch
, and a
King
shall reign and prosper, and shall execute
judgment
and
justice(righteousness)
in the earth.
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby
"he"
shall be called,
The Lord Our Righteousness
.
Jeremiah 33 shows the Joshua half of the Branch
...notice no mention of the word "King" in these verses that is because it is the "Priest" side...the world is made up of male and female the kingdom of God is made up of kings and priests...kings masculine and priests feminine but not of the nature as we think of male and female on earth.
15 In those days, and at that time, will I cause
the Branch of righteousness
to grow up unto David; and he shall execute
judgment
and
righteousness
in the land.
16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith
"she"
shall be called,
The Lord our righteousness
.
17 For thus saith the Lord; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne
(King)
of the house of Israel;
18 Neither shall the
priests
the Levites want
a man
before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.
Psalm 72(A psalm of solomon)
King James Version (KJV)
72 Give the king thy judgments, O God, and thy righteousness unto the king's son.
Notice the "Branch" executes "
Judgement
and
righteousness
"
The king thy
judgement
and the kings son thy
righteousness
"
The "Branch is 2 that become 1 because the Branch has the mission of joining the 2 that are separated Judah and Israel
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