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Subject Life of Jesus....A lie, a coverup or conspiracy? I think not

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I gave a little speech to honor my father at the memorial.

The Reverend called me up to the podium and stepped aside.

I wanted to - in the WORST way - say something to the crowd like "Reverend so-and-so here is going to try to tell you we know exactly where my father is, where he's going, and who he will meet when he gets there.  But NONE OF US KNOW the truth of the matter."

I was either too chicken-shit to do it, or else my sense of decorum took over.

I said nothing like that.  But...  my dad had a favorite saying.  So I closed by telling the people that "I like to think that when my father got to wherever it is we end up, he uttered his 'Well I'll be dipped!' phrase."

It wasn't exactly what had been in my head as I approached the podium, but it sort of had the same effect I guess.

The crowd laughed along with me.

We DO NOT know the truth - no priest, reverend, minister, rabbi, pope, or whatever holy person your religion tells you is an authority on the matter.

WE DO NOT KNOW.  Period.

The rest of it is all TOTAL bullshit.

I do hope my Dad was amazed at whatever newfound experience he was immersed in, but who the hell knows if we even go anywhere (except back to dust and ashes and atoms) after we pass?
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Original Message If Jesus' death and resurection was just a cover up or conspiracy, then you would think that someone would have eventually cracked or spilled the truth. However there is a lot to be learned in the deaths of the apostles...

Mathew- a martyr, killed by a sword

Mark- dragged by horses through the streets until dead

Luke- hung in Greece as a result of his tremendous preaching

John- boiled in a basin of burning oil

James the "Just"- was thrown down more than 100 feet from the southeast pinnacle of the Temple when he REFUSED to deny his faith in Christ.

When they discovered he had survived, his enemies beat him to death with a club.

James the "Greater"- beheaded in Jerusalem

Bartholomew- whipped to death

Thomas- spearered on a missionary trip

Jude- killed with arrows after REFUSING to deny Christ

Matthias- stoned and beheaded

Barnabas- stoned

Paul- tortured and then beheaded.

Why would all of these men accept persecution, suffering, torment and eventually death for a lie? I know that in my own life there is no way I could have ever endured what these men did without 100% conviction, knowing that I know, that I KNOW that in the end, the TRUTH and only the TRUTH would prevail!

" ... Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years."

Revelations 20:4

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