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UPDATED: China releases TWO NEW pics of the Moon and claims it's the "last time".
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[quote:SnotNose 50641211:MV8yNDM2MjczXzQxOTcwNjAyXzE4QTYyMzhE] [quote:Ford Prefect:MV8yNDM2MjczXzQxOTcwNTQwXzkwODIzOUZD] [quote:Paige:MV8yNDM2MjczXzQxOTcwNDEwX0VDMzdBNzhF] [quote:Ford Prefect:MV8yNDM2MjczXzQxOTcwMzY2XzRGNUE4MkY5] [quote:Paige:MV8yNDM2MjczXzQxOTcwMTczXzI1QUY5MzU5] [quote:Ford Prefect:MV8yNDM2MjczX0M4QUI0NTYy] [color=red][b]UPDATE:[/b] [/color] China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised. [quote:http://english.cntv.cn/program/newsupdate/20131222/102902.shtml] [img]http://p1.img.cctvpic.com/program/newsupdate/20131222/images/1387701398730_1387701398730_r.jpg[/img] [img]http://p1.img.cctvpic.com/program/newsupdate/20131222/images/1387701410868_1387701410868_r.jpg[/img] The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration. Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging.[/quote] LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week. ------------------------ UPDATE: [img]http://p4.img.cctvpic.com/20131215/images/1387131088721_1387131088721_r.jpg[/img] This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images. But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction. [img]http://p2.img.cctvpic.com/20131215/images/1387125205474_1387125205474_r.jpg[/img] :wtf: ---------------------------------------------------- UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering. http://n37i.img-up.net/chinese-lac80a.jpg ------------------------------------------------------ Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0S7E572zTlc[/youtube] [/quote] Of course the shy is going to be totally black. [b]The surface of the moon is very bright and the camera's exposure settings would have to adjust for that, which would cause the sky to be black.[/b] What's so hard to understand about that? Try taking a picture of your cars headlights at night and see if you can also see the stars in the sky. [/quote] :bsflag::bsflag: The "exposure" explanation dies here: [quote:http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=122][b]Why can't you see stars during the day?[/b] Stars do glow during the day, but we can't see them because of the glare of sunlight. When the sun is up, the blue color in sunlight gets scattered all over the atmosphere, turning the sky the familiar bright blue color. This blue light is much brighter than the faint light coming from the stars, so it prevents us from seeing them. [b]If you were standing on the Moon, for instance, where there is no atmosphere, [color=red]you would see the stars both day and night.[/color][/b] [/quote] :weirdo: [i]But, but, but....[/i] [/quote] Seeing the stars with your eyes and taking a picture are two different things. Go try it for yourself. try taking a picture of a streetlight at night and see if the stars show up your picture. [/quote] Yet the lack of lunar atmosphere would allow the camera to catch a faint bright of stars in the background, as we can see in 45 yo pictures taken by the Russian Lunokhod rover: http://g41i.img-up.net/Luna-17_Lu1e72.jpg http://k64i.img-up.net/Lunokhod23c57.jpg You want me to believe that Russians photographed stars in the lunar sky with analogical cameras half century ago and modern hi-res digital can't do it??? [/quote] The exposure explanation does not die there. The dynamic range of the sensor and exposure time, and brightness of the stars in the background are all part of the equation -- your junior high level thinking is insufficient. Thanks again for lowering the overall IQ of the US -- you are what makes this country formerly great. [/quote]
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UPDATE:
China's government just released TWO new pics, AGAIN one allegedly taken by the rover and another taken by the lander. NO 360° panoramic images as they promised.
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The rover and lander have taken photos of each other for the fifth and final time. And the next step is scientific survey and exploration.
Clear, complete images of the Chang’e-3 lander have been sent back to Earth. The Yutu rover carries a Panoramic Camera for real-time video transmission. The camera provides stereo images in high-resolution, and three-dimensional imaging.
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LOL total pitch-black sky and the position of the rover's shadow didn't change in ONE week.
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UPDATE:
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This is the alleged pic of the lander Chang'E 3 taken by the rover, and it looks a CGI job to me. The quality is way inferior to the pic of the rover, and it should be exactly the opposite, as long as the cameras of the rover are supposed to take hi-res images.
But what bothers me most is that EARTH is nowhere to be seen in the sky behind the lander, but the satellite dish of the rover is pointed in that direction.
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UPDATE: The mission specialist claim the command center is downloading the images in almost-real-time (20 seconds delay), what means there's no time for tampering.
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Besides the fact that NO stars are seen in the sky whatsoever, pay attention to what seems to be the reflection of the right solar panel on the ground. That look odd to me.
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